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#11
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: EVs
Last post by r0tor - May 24, 2024, 06:17:21 AM
Quote from: GoCougs on May 23, 2024, 09:02:47 PMSure the UAW killed the domestic car - margins were slim to none because the labor costs were too high. Same is happening with EVs. Trucks and SUVs afford ginormous margins because MERICA.


Margins on cars were positive.  Selling $80k trucks was more positive.  They killed cars not because of losing money, but trying to rape the public into submission on higher cost trucks/SUVs.

Pure business decision regardless of unions.
#12
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: EVs
Last post by GoCougs - May 23, 2024, 09:02:47 PM
Quote from: r0tor on May 21, 2024, 01:16:37 PMUnions, or the management of the Big 3?  Unions didn't end production of all passenger cars outside of the Mustang at Ford.

Sure the UAW killed the domestic car - margins were slim to none because the labor costs were too high. Same is happening with EVs. Trucks and SUVs afford ginormous margins because MERICA.
#13
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: EV Range: Battery vs Bladd...
Last post by GoCougs - May 23, 2024, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 23, 2024, 09:29:04 AMOkay, you have a picture of a completely unrelated thing. Where's the evidence of EV batteries being buried?

No, batteries aren't buried, silly!

The point is, there's always a cost, and the theory of entropy, the environmental toll of WtP owing and driving cars will be about the same, no matter how it's done.
#14
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: EV Range: Battery vs Bladd...
Last post by giant_mtb - May 23, 2024, 08:21:19 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on May 23, 2024, 01:44:49 PMYup. You don't drill for electricity then pump it into tankers and burn massive quantities of heavy fuel oil to bring it to terminals. And then refine it. Then put it into stinky diesel trucks to take it to the gas stations.

I think eventually the grid will look different: more nukes, more wind, more solar, more storage.

I guess hydropower, wind farms, and solar panels just sprout out of the ground then, huh?  No mining or pollution or anything involved with producing the electricity involved with EVs.
#15
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: EV Range: Battery vs Bladd...
Last post by AutobahnSHO - May 23, 2024, 08:08:14 PM
Kemmerer, Wyoming has been the site of tons of coal mining. (Did y'all know Wyoming is the nation's biggest coal exporter?)

But they are going to start construction of the new mini nuclear power plant prototype there soon.
#16
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: Tesla
Last post by AutobahnSHO - May 23, 2024, 08:03:15 PM
Quote from: Rich on May 23, 2024, 07:44:29 AMThe windshield hasn't flown off, and the battery hasn't exploded so reliability is 10/10 so far



:lol:
#17
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: Tesla
Last post by Rich - May 23, 2024, 04:04:45 PM
They use google maps too

I'm on FSD 12.something and 11 something for the car software.
#18
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: Tesla
Last post by Morris Minor - May 23, 2024, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: Rich on May 23, 2024, 07:44:29 AMFixed it for you

Thanks. It's been super relaxing to drive.

I've tried more of the full self driving and it's got some issues. It changes lanes at odd times.  for example when I need to exit soon it will move a lane to the left. It will camp out in the left lane with a car behind it and no one to the right. I don't think it recognizes no turn on red signs either. It doesn't use turn signals in roundabouts

Everything else has been fantastic. Actually driving it is serene and relaxing.

The windshield hasn't flown off, and the battery hasn't exploded so reliability is 10/10 so far
Do you know what version of FSD it's running? I've heard there's sometimes a disconnect between the navigation mapping they use and the bit that does the actual driving. An example was a guy who wanted to turn left down a road. The mapping they use (MapBox/Valhalla) was directing the car to turn right at the intersection then do a U-turn - crazy stuff. The self-driving piece ignored it and sat where it was supposed to be, in the lane waiting for the green left-turn arrow. Tesla's said it wants to go more proprietary: build its own maps using GPS data and info collected from the fleet.
#19
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: EV Range: Battery vs Bladd...
Last post by Morris Minor - May 23, 2024, 01:44:49 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 22, 2024, 09:56:47 AMEVs only need mining once vs. constant extraction for gasoline throughout the car's life. Plus, battery recycling is very good. CATL has achieved a recovery rate of 99.6% for nickel, cobalt and manganese, and 91% for lithium. And battery chemistries like LFP and sodium batteries reduce the demand for nickel and cobalt.
Yup. You don't drill for electricity then pump it into tankers and burn massive quantities of heavy fuel oil to bring it to terminals. And then refine it. Then put it into stinky diesel trucks to take it to the gas stations. 

I think eventually the grid will look different: more nukes, more wind, more solar, more storage.
#20
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: EV Range: Battery vs Bladd...
Last post by CaminoRacer - May 23, 2024, 09:29:04 AM
Quote from: GoCougs on May 23, 2024, 09:13:04 AMShaping up to be as robust as windmill blade "recycling" (burying them):


WtP mostly now realize that EVs aren't any better for the environment than ICEVs - EVs just shift the pollution to different places/forms.

Okay, you have a picture of a completely unrelated thing. Where's the evidence of EV batteries being buried?