Look what I found!!!! :wub:
http://www.monaco-munich.de/ (http://www.monaco-munich.de/)
(http://www.monaco-munich.de/images/galerie/74_dodge_monaco_groessenverhaeltnisse.jpg)
The only '74 Monaco in MUNICH, GERMANY! My neighborhood!!!! I'm so gonna email this guy and BEG HIM to allow me to photograph this beauty!!!!
God I love this car! It's so sexy! It's just so sexy! :wub:
You search all over the world for your sweetheart, just to find she lives next door...
Why is it I imagine Wimmer turning into this guy?
Man Addicted To Having Sex With His Car (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae2GCz0StKk#ws)
Or this guy?........
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2000899/Man-admits-having-sex-with-1000-cars.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2000899/Man-admits-having-sex-with-1000-cars.html)
I only needed to see three words of the title to know this was a spooge drenched Wimmer thread. :lol:
Car looks like it's in reasonable shape too.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 16, 2013, 01:34:00 PM
You search all over the world for your sweetheart, just to find she lives next door...
I know! It's like FATE!!! It's like the automotive god's way of saying,
"Christian, you and the '74 Monaco were meant to be!" :rockon:
I wonder if he'll trade in the Monaco for a lowly 118i...
Quote from: Madman on July 16, 2013, 02:04:51 PM
Why is it I imagine Wimmer turning into this guy?
Man Addicted To Having Sex With His Car (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae2GCz0StKk#ws)
Or this guy?........
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2000899/Man-admits-having-sex-with-1000-cars.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2000899/Man-admits-having-sex-with-1000-cars.html)
Trust me, I am not that desperate. :lol:
Quote from: Northlands on July 16, 2013, 04:47:39 PM
I only needed to see three words of the title to know this was a spooge drenched Wimmer thread. :lol:
Car looks like it's in reasonable shape too.
You know me! I'm an automotive connoisseur! To me the '74 Monaco is like a fine French wine in terms of design. :wub:
:facepalm:
I'm still hoping this is one of the poorest, least funny and longest running jokes on carspin.
If not, well then I think we've lost him boys.
:nutty:
I'm actually pretty happy for Wimmer in this case. He finally gets to see up close how shitty those cars were. Maybe he will sell it to you Christian.
I find it all humorous considering Germany has built some of the best cars of all time.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on July 17, 2013, 08:37:41 AM
:facepalm:
I'm still hoping this is one of the poorest, least funny and longest running jokes on carspin.
If not, well then I think we've lost him boys.
:nutty:
It's not a joke. I'm just a guy who appreciates great car design, like the '74 Monaco. :wub: :ohyeah:
Quote from: SVT666 on July 17, 2013, 09:36:42 AM
I'm actually pretty happy for Wimmer in this case. He finally gets to see up close how shitty those cars were. Maybe he will sell it to you Christian.
Trust me, I'll enjoy this!!! :rockon:
I love the design of this car. I know it's not a high quality car, but the design is stunning IMO.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on July 17, 2013, 08:05:24 PM
I find it all humorous considering Germany has built some of the best cars of all time.
But they never made a '74 Monaco...
German police cars are boring. No character. :ohyeah:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on July 18, 2013, 01:10:55 PM
But they never made a '74 Monaco...
German police cars are boring. No character. :ohyeah:
You should just buy one of these barges one day - I'm not sure about Germany's rules for importing North American cars, but you could pick one up reasonably cheap here.
Quote from: 3.0L V6 on July 20, 2013, 05:54:48 AM
You should just buy one of these barges one day - I'm not sure about Germany's rules for importing North American cars, but you could pick one up reasonably cheap here.
I'd love to have one. The only problem is my parking space is to small for it and this thing consumes like 20+ L / 100 km. My car has a 50 liter fuel tank which lasts me on average a month!!!
Quote from: cawimmer430 on July 20, 2013, 08:30:43 AM
I'd love to have one. The only problem is my parking space is to small for it and this thing consumes like 20+ L / 100 km. My car has a 50 liter fuel tank which lasts me on average a month!!!
Wat.
Quote from: Northlands on July 20, 2013, 09:30:54 AM
Wat.
Yep. One fill-up lasts on average for an entire month. I drive about 700 km per month and the range of the 118i is about 650+ km.
If I had a ' 7 4 D o d g e M o n a c o, I'd use 50 liters of precious gas for a miserable 200+ km!!! :lol:
Just put a Mercedes diesel engine in it.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on July 20, 2013, 10:48:37 AM
Just put a Mercedes diesel engine in it.
A 55-hp 2.0 4-cylinder N/A diesel from a W123 200D should do the trick! :lol:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on July 20, 2013, 10:32:14 AM
Yep. One fill-up lasts on average for an entire month. I drive about 700 km per month and the range of the 118i is about 650+ km.
If I had a ' 7 4 D o d g e M o n a c o, I'd use 50 liters of precious gas for a miserable 200+ km!!! :lol:
I'm happy to get 12 days out of mine. Then again... not a diesel. I'll get 700+ kms if I do mainly highway driving though.
If you want a crappy car from the 70s that gets good fuel economy you can always get a Pinto or Vega. Hell the Maverick or Nova with the 6 cylinder probably doesn't do too bad on fuel economy.
Quote from: cawimmer430 on July 18, 2013, 01:10:55 PM
German police cars are boring. No character. :ohyeah:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/VW_Kaefer_1303_Polizei.JPG)
(http://img4.motor-klassik.de/BMW-Isetta-fotoshowImage-354e397e-429079.jpg)
Those have character. They were just not very good police cars.
The top picture: the yellow Beetle in the background; I noticed the symbol on the door- Did it belong to Prince back when he was the artist formerly known as Prince?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 21, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
The top picture: the yellow Beetle in the background; I noticed the symbol on the door- Did it belong to Prince back when he was the artist formerly known as Prince?
Postal service. They still use essentially the same symbol today.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Deutsche_Post.svg/799px-Deutsche_Post.svg.png)
It has it's origin with the instrument that was used to herald the arrival of the postal service.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Berlin._Spandau._Citadel_057.JPG/800px-Berlin._Spandau._Citadel_057.JPG)
Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 21, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
The top picture: the yellow Beetle in the background; I noticed the symbol on the door- Did it belong to Prince back when he was the artist formerly known as Prince?
Its the logo for Deutsche Post, the German Post Office. The logo is still being used today.
Here's their English language site: http://www.deutschepost.de/dpag?xmlFile=828&lang=de_EN (http://www.deutschepost.de/dpag?xmlFile=828&lang=de_EN)
Quote from: Madman on July 21, 2013, 06:39:25 PM
Its the logo for Deutsche Post, the German Post Office. The logo is still being used today.
Here's their English language site: http://www.deutschepost.de/dpag?xmlFile=828&lang=de_EN (http://www.deutschepost.de/dpag?xmlFile=828&lang=de_EN)
I suppose my attempt at humor for today has failed.
"Polizei" is the least German-looking German word ever.
Quote from: Northlands on July 20, 2013, 11:34:32 AM
I'm happy to get 12 days out of mine. Then again... not a diesel. I'll get 700+ kms if I do mainly highway driving though.
If I didn't do so much city-driving I probably could squeeze a bit more range out of mine...
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on July 20, 2013, 12:20:42 PM
If you want a crappy car from the 70s that gets good fuel economy you can always get a Pinto or Vega. Hell the Maverick or Nova with the 6 cylinder probably doesn't do too bad on fuel economy.
I prefer the Vega over the Pinto. Looks better. Never much liked the Pinto or Bobcat.
Plus the
Vert-A-Pac was a pretty neat idea!
(http://blog.gessato.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/vert-a-pac-car-transportation-4.jpg)
Quote from: Galaxy on July 21, 2013, 06:21:43 PM
Those have character. They were just not very good police cars.
I dunno. I look at them and I am like, "Langweilig...: :zzz: :lol:
But when I see a '74 Monaco in photos, I feel love! :wub:
Quote from: Secret Chimp on July 21, 2013, 07:47:03 PM
"Polizei" is the least German-looking German word ever.
Get ready to freak out! :thumbsup:
The Longest German Word? (Das längste deutsche Wort?)
Is there such a thing?Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän Students of German seem to enjoy trying to find the "longest German word." More than most other languages, German tends to string words together to form new vocabulary. All languages, including English, do this to some extent, but German really likes to create long words. As Mark Twain said, "Some German words are so long that they have a perspective."
German can do this because its grammar allows words to be strung together to form one lengthy term that English and other languages usually break up into several words. The classic longest German word is Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän, which in English becomes four words: "Danube steamship company captain." But that German word has a mere 41 letters (42 with German spelling reform, which adds another f to the "schifffahrt" element), while some longest-word candidates run as long as 80 characters.
But is there really such a thing as the longest German word... das längste deutsche Wort? Some of the suggested "longest" words are artificial creations, never used in daily spoken or written German. German numbers and scientific terms also come into the running, but a word chosen in 1999 as the longest word for that year (see below) was a "legal" word in the true sense of the term, since it referred to a law for labeling meat. But even if we accept that 63-letter word, a German-speaking person could go a very long time without ever having to read it, much less use it! For all practical purposes this longest-word contest is really just a game. It's more fun than practical. (Even a German or English Scrabble board only has room for 15 letters.) But if you'd like to play the longest-word game, here are a few selected items to consider.
Long German WordsWords listed in alphabetical order (with gender, letter count)Betäubungsmittelverschreibungsverordnung(die, 41 letters) "regulation requiring a prescription for an anesthetic"
Bezirksschornsteinfegermeister(der, 30 letters) This word may be short in comparison to those below, but it's a real word submitted by Robin in our Forum, taken from a letter he received. It means roughly "head district chimney sweep."
Donaudampfschiffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerk-
bauunterbeamtengesellschaft (one word, no hyphen)
(die, 79 letters, 80 with new German spelling [one more 'f' in ...dampfschifffahrts...]) "association of subordinate officials of the head office management of the Danube steamboat electrical services" (the name of a pre-war club in Vienna) - Not really useful, this word is more of a desperate attempt to lengthen the word below.
Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän(der, 42 letters) "Danube steamship company captain"
Rechtsschutzversicherungsgesellschaften(die, plur., 39 letters) "legal protection insurance companies"
According to Guinness, this was the longest German dictionary word in everyday usage, but the word below is a longer legitimate, official "longest word" — in semi-everyday usage.
Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz(das, 63 letters) "beef labeling regulation & delegation of supervision law"
This was a 1999 German Word of the Year, and it also won a special award as the longest German word for that year. It refers to a "law for regulating the labeling of beef" - all in one word, which is why it is so long. German also likes abbreviations, and this word has one: ReÜAÜG.
German Numbers - ZahlenAnother reason why there really isn't a single longest German word: German numbers, long or short, are written as one word. For example, to say or write the number 7,254, not really a very long number, the German is...
siebentausendzweihundertvierundfünfzig, a single word of 38 letters. Larger numbers would, of course, make even longer German words.
Longest English WordJust for comparison, what about English? The longest word in English is not "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" (an invented word). Just as in German, there is disagreement about the actual longest word, but English can't keep pace with German in this department.
antidisestablishmentarianism(28 letters) a legitimate dictionary word from the 19th century meaning "opposition to the separation of church and state"
pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanokoniosis(45 letters) "lung disease caused by breathing in silica dust" - Linguists claim this is an artificial word, and it does not deserve true "longest word" billing.
Technical words: There are many English technical and medical terms that qualify as long words, but they are usually excluded from the longest-word game.
Link: http://german.about.com/library/blwort_long.htm (http://german.about.com/library/blwort_long.htm)
Quote from: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2013, 04:34:55 AM
I prefer the Vega over the Pinto. Looks better. Never much liked the Pinto or Bobcat.
Plus the Vert-A-Pac was a pretty neat idea!
(http://blog.gessato.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/vert-a-pac-car-transportation-4.jpg)
Isn't that what caused conspicuous rust on those cars?
Quote from: Raza on July 22, 2013, 09:32:59 AM
Isn't that what caused conspicuous rust on those cars?
Why would transporting cars vertically cause them to rust more later?
Quote from: Raza on July 22, 2013, 09:32:59 AM
Isn't that what caused conspicuous rust on those cars?
I don't think so. As Carspinners (except me) would say,
"The car was simply a piece of shit! It's a 1970s car!" :lol:
Quote from: Secret Chimp on July 22, 2013, 02:49:19 PM
Why would transporting cars vertically cause them to rust more later?
Something about water collecting in a certain way.
Quote from: Secret Chimp on July 22, 2013, 02:49:19 PM
Why would transporting cars vertically cause them to rust more later?
It got water into places where it wouldn't have otherwise. The train cars wren't exactly weatherproof.
it was the 70's. Car bodies were being lightened and paint formulas were being changed to meet new epa standardds.
I dunno about that first part, I remember reading an Oldsmobile ad in a mid-70s Readers Digest that boasted "it's heavier" as one of the first improvements.
Quote from: Secret Chimp on July 23, 2013, 11:10:47 AM
I dunno about that first part, I remember reading an Oldsmobile ad in a mid-70s Readers Digest that boasted "it's heavier" as one of the first improvements.
"Now with added inefficiency!"
Still blows my mind that cars used to be designed to create the stiffest structure possible. The idea of crumple zones didn't come about until the 1950's.
Quote from: Secret Chimp on July 23, 2013, 11:10:47 AM
I dunno about that first part, I remember reading an Oldsmobile ad in a mid-70s Readers Digest that boasted "it's heavier" as one of the first improvements.
"The new oldsmobile, now with an extra 1000lbs of road hugging weight"
"Olds, we're adding weight so gravity doesn't have to do all the work"
Quote from: MrH on July 23, 2013, 12:51:48 PM
"Now with added inefficiency!"
Still blows my mind that cars used to be designed to create the stiffest structure possible. The idea of crumple zones didn't come about until the 1950's.
I think I can remember an old car ad that bragged about how flexible the chassis was because the flexing allowed for a smoother ride.
Supposed GM (Cadillac, mostly) used to add weight to the frame to make it have a cushier ride.
Quote from: hotrodalex on July 23, 2013, 11:18:12 PM
Supposed GM (Cadillac, mostly) used to add weight to the frame to make it have a cushier ride.
It would have been easier to change the spring/leaf rates, that is if they didn't order 2 millions units to save .13 cents per. So lets just weld some large blocks of iron to the frame.
I'm not sure they could have made the springs any softer without them collapsing. :lol:
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on July 23, 2013, 06:41:21 PM
I think I can remember an old car ad that bragged about how flexible the chassis was because the flexing allowed for a smoother ride.
This is why when I speak to old guys (like 70+ years old), and they say they were mechanical engineers, I have to ask, what the hell did they teach in school? I don't understand how anyone thought that was a good idea.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on July 24, 2013, 07:42:34 AM
It would have been easier to change the spring/leaf rates, that is if they didn't order 2 millions units to save .13 cents per. So lets just weld some large blocks of iron to the frame.
I've cut apart several Cadillacs, I never found any added weights.
Quote from: MrH on July 24, 2013, 11:21:59 AM
This is why when I speak to old guys (like 70+ years old), and they say they were mechanical engineers, I have to ask, what the hell did they teach in school? I don't understand how anyone thought that was a good idea.
Don't confuse advertising with engineering.
It's all about cost. My car was built with frame rails integrated into the body only in the front and rear, with the center as a single big flat shear plane with structurally unrelated quasi-rails on the outsides. You can weld in "frame connectors" that go in between the ends of the front rails and the fronts of the rear rails to stiffen the car substantially. There was no reason to build it that way other than it was cheaper and easier than running the rails the entire length of the body structure.
Quote from: Secret Chimp on July 24, 2013, 03:17:26 PM
It's all about cost. My car was built with frame rails integrated into the body only in the front and rear, with the center as a single big flat shear plane with structurally unrelated quasi-rails on the outsides. You can weld in "frame connectors" that go in between the ends of the front rails and the fronts of the rear rails to stiffen the car substantially. There was no reason to build it that way other than it was cheaper and easier than running the rails the entire length of the body structure.
It also made it easier to make different length wheelbases on the same frame members.
Quote from: MrH on July 24, 2013, 11:21:59 AM
This is why when I speak to old guys (like 70+ years old), and they say they were mechanical engineers, I have to ask, what the hell did they teach in school? I don't understand how anyone thought that was a good idea.
It was the best they could do with the technology, budget, and penny-pinchers that they had at the time. I'm sure if they could build a modern car back then, they would have.
Quote from: hotrodalex on July 24, 2013, 09:20:16 PM
I'm sure if they could build a modern car back then, they would have.
........wut :wtf:
I'm not sure what you don't understand about that. Today engineer's have a lot more resources and production methods to help them make the high quality cars we have today. I'm sure that if the engineers back then had the same resources, they would build similar cars. Except they didn't, so they had to work with what they had.
To put it another way - if you were an engineer back then, what would you do differently to achieve the same goals with the same resources available?
I don't think the admiration of 1970's U.S. autos is odd at all. They actually were better than most remember them.
Plus, I just found out there is a forum for vintage flashlight fans...and they make this "obsession" about Detroit iron appear pretty mild. Those flashlight people are nuts.
Quote from: JWC on July 30, 2013, 05:44:11 PM
I don't think the admiration of 1970's U.S. autos is odd at all. They actually were better than most remember them.
Plus, I just found out there is a forum for vintage flashlight fans...and they make this "obsession" about Detroit iron appear pretty mild. Those flashlight people are nuts.
Well, the Toyotas and Datsuns that people remember for being so reliable were absolute pieces of shit. Solid mechanically, and more fun to drive, but the interiors and bodywork were shit.
All it would take to turn my Z into an unsafe scrap heap is about 1 Michigan winter.
I have gotten a lot of shit for saying that about Toyotas and Datsuns of the era. Honda wasn't any better. Japanese car owners tended to be like Benz owners....very forgiving. I towed more Benz in than Nissan and Olds when I worked there. I even had a Benz owner apologize to me for breaking the seat adjustment knobs on this $50K car. I couldn't tell him we dozens on hand because they were delicate pieces of plastic.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on July 30, 2013, 09:14:29 PM
Well, the Toyotas and Datsuns that people remember for being so reliable were absolute pieces of shit. Solid mechanically, and more fun to drive, but the interiors and bodywork were shit.
All it would take to turn my Z into an unsafe scrap heap is about 1 Michigan winter.
They rusted very easily as well, right?
A '76 Chevy Camaro had a much higher quality body and interior than a '76 Datsun 280Z. And the Z cost a lot more money!
Granted, the handling, engine durability, and technology were not as good as the Z, but still. I probably would have bought a Camaro before a Z in 1976.