CarSPIN Forums

Auto Talk => The Mainstream Room => Topic started by: cawimmer430 on January 18, 2020, 07:49:12 AM

Title: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: cawimmer430 on January 18, 2020, 07:49:12 AM
Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible

An analyst believes a merger between Nissan and Honda is not beyond the realms of possibility, Bloomberg reports.

According to LightStream Research analyst Mio Kato, the reported 'fractured' relationship between Nissan and Renault (even if the two companies claim otherwise publicly) could encourage the Japanese automaker to seek out a new partnership that would allow it to rival Toyota. It could make that happen if it were to join forces with Honda.

(https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Nissan-Honda-Partnership-768x416.jpg)

"Honda has never been one to engage in aggressive M&A and a merger between Honda and Nissan should be unthinkable, but with Toyota's increasing competitiveness we feel that if Nissan desired an alliance partner to replace Renault, Honda may not be entirely against the idea," Kato said.

Neither Honda nor Nissan have responded to the report but recently, Nissan denied claims that it is thinking about ending its alliance with Renault following the recent escape of former chairman Carlos Ghosn from Japan.

Kato believes that as car manufacturers look to establish strong partnerships in the coming years, the Japanese car industry could be split into two giant groups, one of which would be Toyota which already has stakes in Mazda, Suzuki, and Subaru.

If Nissan were to ditch Renault in favor of Honda, the new group's annual sales could rise from just under 11 million units a year to roughly 12 million units annually.

"Nissan does have attractive possibilities to dangle in front of potential suitors and Toyota's relentless march forward could necessitate drastic change for those on the outside in Japan," he wrote.


Link: https://www.carscoops.com/2020/01/analyst-thinks-a-nissan-honda-partnership-is-possible/
Title: Re: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: MrH on January 18, 2020, 11:06:39 AM
I have zero problem with the shitty OEMs partnering up (see Fiat & Chrysler :lol:), but this?  No.  Just no.
Title: Re: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: Xer0 on January 18, 2020, 12:47:49 PM
All of the things that Honda would gain from this - a 20 yr old RWD platform, a V8 truck engine, and access to the American sub prime car lending market - are things that it doesn't need.  Honda has never cared for chasing pure volume and good for them because if they did, they would be Nissan right now  :lol:
Title: Re: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: giant_mtb on January 18, 2020, 01:22:04 PM
Honda is way too good for Nissan.
Title: Re: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: MX793 on January 18, 2020, 02:06:43 PM
Quote from: Xer0 on January 18, 2020, 12:47:49 PM
All of the things that Honda would gain from this - a 20 yr old RWD platform, a V8 truck engine, and access to the American sub prime car lending market - are things that it doesn't need.  Honda has never cared for chasing pure volume and good for them because if they did, they would be Nissan right now  :lol:

Nissan does have a leg up on Honda in the EV game.  And they have a variable compression engine and an infinitely variable valve lift system.
Title: Re: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: Xer0 on January 18, 2020, 03:14:10 PM
Quote from: MX793 on January 18, 2020, 02:06:43 PM
Nissan does have a leg up on Honda in the EV game.  And they have a variable compression engine and an infinitely variable valve lift system.

Fair on the EV point, but judging by what Honda's CEO has recently said it doesn't seem like full EV is what Honda is going for right now.  We'll see if that's wise or not in 10 years.  As for the engine, from reading it sounds a little half baked with more promise then actual delivery.
Title: Re: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: Raza on January 22, 2020, 08:33:47 AM
370Z based S2000? 
Title: Re: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: SJ_GTI on January 22, 2020, 08:41:08 AM
Quote from: Raza  on January 22, 2020, 08:33:47 AM
370Z based S2000?

S2000 based 370Z.
Title: Re: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: Speed_Racer on January 22, 2020, 09:28:44 AM
Not sure how this would benefit Honda in any way. Nissan should hit up Mitsubishi
Title: Re: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: 2o6 on January 22, 2020, 09:36:56 AM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on January 22, 2020, 09:28:44 AM
Not sure how this would benefit Honda in any way. Nissan should hit up Mitsubishi


That alliance already exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault%E2%80%93Nissan%E2%80%93Mitsubishi_Alliance
Title: Re: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: Laconian on January 22, 2020, 11:39:19 AM
Leaf rebadges? That'd be a pretty low-effort way to get those corporate CO2 emission numbers under the limit in Europe.
Title: Re: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: Raza on January 22, 2020, 02:50:46 PM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on January 22, 2020, 08:41:08 AM
S2000 based 370Z.

Altima-based S2000 and 370Z!
Title: Re: Analyst Thinks A Nissan-Honda Partnership Is Possible
Post by: Speed_Racer on January 22, 2020, 03:27:48 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on January 22, 2020, 09:36:56 AM

That alliance already exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault%E2%80%93Nissan%E2%80%93Mitsubishi_Alliance

Huh, I didn't know they were part of that. Guess I haven't been paying attention