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Title: Brazil
Post by: 2o6 on December 01, 2015, 11:39:30 PM
Brazil pre 2000 is such a weird place for cars. Closed markets created a weird place for GM, VW and Ford and PSA to create things



For example this - the Ford Del Rey; sort of a small FWD sedan that looks like a rejected styling proposal for the Fox Body




But the engine's longitudinal.


And it's actually a Renault 12 underneath

(http://carplace.virgula.uol.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Ford-Del-Rey-1987.jpg)
(http://spf.fotolog.com/photo/63/8/39/automotivado/1312371412660_f.jpg)
Title: Re: Brazil
Post by: Payman on December 02, 2015, 05:29:37 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on December 01, 2015, 11:39:30 PM
Brazil pre 2000 is such a weird place for cars. Closed markets created a weird place for GM, VW and Ford and PSA to create things



For example this - the Ford Del Rey; sort of a small FWD sedan that looks like a rejected styling proposal for the Fox Body




But the engine's longitudinal.


And it's actually a Renault 12 underneath

(http://carplace.virgula.uol.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Ford-Del-Rey-1987.jpg)
(http://spf.fotolog.com/photo/63/8/39/automotivado/1312371412660_f.jpg)

Are those Mustang headlights?
Title: Re: Brazil
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on December 02, 2015, 07:22:26 AM
There is weirdness like this across Latin America, later I'll look some up and post it.
Title: Re: Brazil
Post by: cawimmer430 on December 02, 2015, 08:33:48 AM
Those proportions....  :mask:
Title: Re: Brazil
Post by: 2o6 on December 02, 2015, 08:51:48 AM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on December 02, 2015, 08:33:48 AM
Those proportions....  :mask:


It's a Renault 12! They're identical to this

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/R12TL.JPG)
Title: Re: Brazil
Post by: 2o6 on December 02, 2015, 08:57:56 AM
Did some research, the 1.6/1.8 engine is a super common Renault engine, that Ford Brazil revised and basically grandfathered in.



The Ford Corcel and Corcel II was the same story
Title: Re: Brazil
Post by: Laconian on December 02, 2015, 12:24:43 PM
Brazil's an odd duck for many industries. They are super protectionist, so you have a lot of joint venture weirdness going on.

I think they still make the Sega Master System there, a Brazilian company bought the rights to the IP from Sega.
Title: Re: Brazil
Post by: 2o6 on December 02, 2015, 02:34:48 PM
Or this cool looking thing


Volkswagen SP2

Built on the same chassis as the squareback, but Brazil only

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eDvw48d-7cQ/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Brazil
Post by: 93JC on December 02, 2015, 02:35:45 PM
It's also practically impossible for someone to buy a car  in Brazil with an engine that doesn't run ethanol. Their fuel stations typically sell two different fuels: "gasoline" (~25% ethanol) and "alcohol" (100% ethanol). They make it with sugar cane rather than corn, as in the US, and it yields far more usable ethanol on a per-acre basis.