2018 Accord 2.0T Sport 6MT

Started by VTEC_Inside, August 21, 2020, 09:54:44 AM

VTEC_Inside

I think as I get more used to it, just have to turn Eco off and be a little more civil on shifts. It has almost double the torque of the CSX/RSX, so might have to change up things a bit.
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1989 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5spd 2bbl 98hp 109lb/ft *GONE*
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cawimmer430

How does Eco-Mode work with a manual transmission car?

In mine (7-speed DCT) it disconnects the transmission from the engine to allow the car to coast ("Sail").
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VTEC_Inside

Quote from: cawimmer430 on August 30, 2020, 09:02:50 AM
How does Eco-Mode work with a manual transmission car?

In mine (7-speed DCT) it disconnects the transmission from the engine to allow the car to coast ("Sail").

Dumbs down the throttle pedal response, cycles the AC less and won't try as hard to maintain speed when cruise is on going up hills etc..
Honda, The Heartbeat of Japan...
2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T 6MT 252hp 273lb/ft
2006 Acura CSX Touring 160hp 141lb/ft *Sons car now*
2004 Acura RSX Type S 6spd 200hp 142lb/ft
1989 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5spd 2bbl 98hp 109lb/ft *GONE*
Slushies are something to drink, not drive...

AutobahnSHO

AC on in Miata totally changes how it drives. Feels like 30% less power LOL. Have to give it way more gas and go easier on the clutch.  Unintentionally Killed it in front of the house the other day.....
Will

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on August 30, 2020, 06:08:26 PM
AC on in Miata totally changes how it drives. Feels like 30% less power LOL. Have to give it way more gas and go easier on the clutch.  Unintentionally Killed it in front of the house the other day.....

That is the case with most naturally aspirated four-cylinder cars. Fiesta Eeekoboost, however, doesn't seem to change. That is, perhaps, because the throttle response is already so delayed between the throttle-by-wire and the turbo lag. And then the electronically-controlled boost comes and forms a mega mesa of torque, burying any hint of AC power suckage.
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Morris Minor

The AC in the CR-V sucks sweaty balls. After a few minutes it cycles off when it gets to set point and things get uncomfortable. You have to turn it down to "Lo" to keep it blowing cold.
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cawimmer430

Quote from: VTEC_Inside on August 30, 2020, 04:29:27 PM
Dumbs down the throttle pedal response, cycles the AC less and won't try as hard to maintain speed when cruise is on going up hills etc..


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Rich

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on August 30, 2020, 06:08:26 PM
AC on in Miata totally changes how it drives. Feels like 30% less power LOL. Have to give it way more gas and go easier on the clutch.  Unintentionally Killed it in front of the house the other day.....

Remember the turbo boost button from knight rider?  Reincarnated as the AC off button in the Miata.
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Morris Minor

Quote from: Rich on August 31, 2020, 08:34:01 AM
Remember the turbo boost button from knight rider?  Reincarnated as the AC off button in the Miata.
One of our neighbors where I grew up was a civil engineer - he was posted to Hong Kong in the 1970s to build the Mass Transit Railway, the family went too. They had a Morris 1300 there with an aftermarket A/C unit bolted under the parcel shelf. They had to switch off the a/c to get up the hills; it would just stall. The car was pretty useless anyway in a sub-tropical climate.
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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: Rich on August 31, 2020, 08:34:01 AM
Remember the turbo boost button from knight rider?  Reincarnated as the AC off button in the Miata.

:lol:
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r0tor

Quote from: cawimmer430 on August 30, 2020, 09:02:50 AM
How does Eco-Mode work with a manual transmission car?

In mine (7-speed DCT) it disconnects the transmission from the engine to allow the car to coast ("Sail").

That happens in the Giulia as well as the slowed down throttle and lazier shifts in the efficiency mode.... But it also cuts boost by like 50% so it only makes like 200hp
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AutobahnSHO

Quote from: Rich on August 31, 2020, 08:34:01 AM
Remember the turbo boost button from knight rider?  Reincarnated as the AC off button in the Miata.

:rockon:
Will

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Quote from: AutobahnSHO on August 30, 2020, 06:08:26 PM
AC on in Miata totally changes how it drives. Feels like 30% less power LOL. Have to give it way more gas and go easier on the clutch.  Unintentionally Killed it in front of the house the other day.....

Ironically AC also changes how I have to drive the Z06.  More gas, easier on the clutch, easier to stall.

cawimmer430

Quote from: r0tor on August 31, 2020, 05:18:46 PM
That happens in the Giulia as well as the slowed down throttle and lazier shifts in the efficiency mode.... But it also cuts boost by like 50% so it only makes like 200hp

In mine it also upshifts early and refuses to downshift when I try to accelerate. I rarely use eco-mode because it makes the car feel so lethargic.
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veeman

I drive with the AC on 99% of the time.  In the summer for obvious reasons.  In the spring I have bad allergies to tree pollen.  In the winter, heat with AC feels better than heat alone and the windows don't fog up.  If I put the defrost on, my face feels burned so I keep the defrost off.  Also you can't listen to audiobooks with the windows open. 

So I don't know if my underpowered 4 banger manual shift Crosstrek drives better with the AC off :lol:

r0tor

I just leave the climate control do it's thing
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FoMoJo

Quote from: cawimmer430 on September 01, 2020, 05:47:59 AM
In mine it also upshifts early and refuses to downshift when I try to accelerate. I rarely use eco-mode because it makes the car feel so lethargic.
I just have some weird looking little pictures for drive mode settings on my Discovery Sport...



So I just leave it on ECO.
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Laconian

The eco mode on my MIL's 900cc Captur is hilariously bad. Vmax is like 110kph.
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VTEC_Inside

Honda, The Heartbeat of Japan...
2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T 6MT 252hp 273lb/ft
2006 Acura CSX Touring 160hp 141lb/ft *Sons car now*
2004 Acura RSX Type S 6spd 200hp 142lb/ft
1989 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5spd 2bbl 98hp 109lb/ft *GONE*
Slushies are something to drink, not drive...

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: VTEC_Inside on September 03, 2020, 05:28:23 AM
That is now on my to do list..

Of course, I would browse some Accord forums to be sure, but stiffer torque arms are almost always a good idea on powerful FWD cars.
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VTEC_Inside

My sway bar won't arrive for at least 2 weeks..  been looking at intakes for more wooshy noises too.
Honda, The Heartbeat of Japan...
2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T 6MT 252hp 273lb/ft
2006 Acura CSX Touring 160hp 141lb/ft *Sons car now*
2004 Acura RSX Type S 6spd 200hp 142lb/ft
1989 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5spd 2bbl 98hp 109lb/ft *GONE*
Slushies are something to drink, not drive...

r0tor

2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee No Speed -- 2004 Mazda RX8 6 speed -- 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia All Speed

CaminoRacer

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FoMoJo

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VTEC_Inside

Quote from: r0tor on September 03, 2020, 01:15:11 PM
Do it
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Lol, the front tires just wont hold anymore, and with my commute being so short these days I already have zero places to properly open it up.
Honda, The Heartbeat of Japan...
2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T 6MT 252hp 273lb/ft
2006 Acura CSX Touring 160hp 141lb/ft *Sons car now*
2004 Acura RSX Type S 6spd 200hp 142lb/ft
1989 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5spd 2bbl 98hp 109lb/ft *GONE*
Slushies are something to drink, not drive...

MX793

Quote from: VTEC_Inside on September 03, 2020, 11:09:41 AM
My sway bar won't arrive for at least 2 weeks..  been looking at intakes for more wooshy noises too.

BOV
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VTEC_Inside

Quote from: MX793 on September 04, 2020, 06:21:17 AM
BOV

It can't simply be vented on the Honda's as its already past the MAF, the ECU expects it to be there. There is at least one housing someone makes to make it more audible, but if I'm pulling it apart at all, I might as well do the whole thing. Narrowed it down to AEM or Takeda, as they are 2 that use dry filters. I'm not after power, just noise :)
Honda, The Heartbeat of Japan...
2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T 6MT 252hp 273lb/ft
2006 Acura CSX Touring 160hp 141lb/ft *Sons car now*
2004 Acura RSX Type S 6spd 200hp 142lb/ft
1989 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5spd 2bbl 98hp 109lb/ft *GONE*
Slushies are something to drink, not drive...

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: VTEC_Inside on September 04, 2020, 01:13:57 PM
It can't simply be vented on the Honda's as its already past the MAF, the ECU expects it to be there. There is at least one housing someone makes to make it more audible, but if I'm pulling it apart at all, I might as well do the whole thing. Narrowed it down to AEM or Takeda, as they are 2 that use dry filters. I'm not after power, just noise :)

I had a 50/50 recirc/vent valve on Fiesta. No probs. :lol:
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