Wifey's driver seat controls are dead

Started by 12,000 RPM, July 14, 2019, 04:48:39 PM

12,000 RPM

Fuses are fine... haven't tried the seat heaters/coolers. Any other suggestions besides taking it to the dealer? Looking at parts and assuming labor it shouldn't be more than $600-700, but hopefully like $100-200 if they just have to replace the switch. Not into buying a used driver seat
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Submariner

A friend of a friend had a Ford Edge roughly the same vintage as your wife's car.  He too had a dead drivers seat after 40k ish miles.  The dealer believed the problem was water seeping in between bad A-pillar weather stripping, making its way into the carpet and eventually shorting out the wiring underneath the seat.
2010 G-550  //  2019 GLS-550

12,000 RPM

Uh oh.... do you remember what the fix was? I'm hoping they just have to replace the control module at worst... a new harness would be bad news
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Submariner

Unfortunately I don't remember what the exact problem was, though I do remember complaints about cost and the complexity of the job.

Of course, you could have a completely different issue.  Have you checked to see if there are any signs of water seepage?
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shp4man

Ok, Sporty. Do any of the seat things work? Up? Down? back? Forth? Fuck with the switch? Bang on it?

12,000 RPM

On that seat, nothing works. But again the fuse I could find was fine. Maybe water killed the ground :facepalm:
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MX793

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12,000 RPM

Probably wouldn't hurt to check, though I'm not sure why it would now after 9 years on the road
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Eye of the Tiger

Use a test light or volt meter to check for power at the seat.
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MX793

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 16, 2019, 05:19:21 AM
Probably wouldn't hurt to check, though I'm not sure why it would now after 9 years on the road

Something fell under the seat, while trying to fish it out a cable got tugged and loosened a connector, some miles down the road the connector loosens to the point the connection breaks...
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12,000 RPM

I poked around under the seat.... all the harnesses are tight, no problems. Heating and cooling work as well. Really thinking it's the switch module. We'll see what the dealer says
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Submariner

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 17, 2019, 05:29:32 AM
I poked around under the seat.... all the harnesses are tight, no problems. Heating and cooling work as well. Really thinking it's the switch module. We'll see what the dealer says

If the heaters work fine then I'd say your guess has merit.  Also, water damage seems much less likely now.
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12,000 RPM

Yea I would imagine water damage causing a whole host of other issues.
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Submariner

In any event I hope its a cheap and easy fix.
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CaminoRacer

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Submariner

2010 G-550  //  2019 GLS-550

12,000 RPM

We have to take it in next week... I'll update then
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BimmerM3

Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 17, 2019, 02:48:17 PM
Or just never move the seat again!

TBH, I'm basically pre-planning on that in the Explorer. :lol:

I don't know if this is really that common of a problem, but I've heard a few people mention that they have seat issues in those cars, so I turned off the whole "slide back when you remove the key" thing so that if it gets stuck, it'll be more likely to get stuck where I already want it.

CaminoRacer

I'm really glad my wife is close enough in height that we can just leave the seat in the same place for both of us.

My mom sits really close to the wheel so if I ever drive her car I can barely even get in the seat. :lol:
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FoMoJo

Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 21, 2019, 12:17:20 PM
I'm really glad my wife is close enough in height that we can just leave the seat in the same place for both of us.

My mom sits really close to the wheel so if I ever drive her car I can barely even get in the seat. :lol:
Your wife is over 6 feet?
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: FoMoJo on July 21, 2019, 12:33:33 PM
Your wife is over 6 feet?
Women sit weird. My wife sits with her knees together, so she needs way more leg room than me, even though her legs aren't that much longer.
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CaminoRacer

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12,000 RPM

Blah, should have been more thorough in my fuse check. Though I'm not sure I would have caught it. The fuse for the seat itself was fine, but the fuse for the "body control module" was bad. $150 diagnostic fee and I know where to look next time. I want to be mad and say I'm paying $150 to have a fuse changed but they did find the issue. If the fuse pops again then it will be another story
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Submariner

100% better than water damage though!
2010 G-550  //  2019 GLS-550

12,000 RPM

For sure. They said to be careful with stuff under the seat... prob hit a harness and tripped the fuse. So MX793 was kinda right. Hopefully that's the end of it. Car's been great otherwise.
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2o6

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2019, 01:13:27 PM
Blah, should have been more thorough in my fuse check. Though I'm not sure I would have caught it. The fuse for the seat itself was fine, but the fuse for the "body control module" was bad. $150 diagnostic fee and I know where to look next time. I want to be mad and say I'm paying $150 to have a fuse changed but they did find the issue. If the fuse pops again then it will be another story

The fuse *for* the BCM? Or the fuse in the BCM?

12,000 RPM

Wifey picked it up, I'll have to look at the paperwork
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Eye of the Tiger

Ja, if the whole BCM was without power, one inoperative power seat would be the least of your problems.
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