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Title: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: cawimmer430 on April 14, 2020, 10:49:56 AM
Smokey's new ride.  :thumbsup:



Pontiac Aztek 'Trans Am Firebird' Is So Wrong It's Right

The Pontiac Aztek is one of the most controversially-styled vehicles produced in recent times yet has quite a bit of a cult following, thanks in no small part to its involvement in Breaking Bad as the car driven by Walter White.

While Pontiac is no longer around, the GM-owned car manufacturer produced a handful of iconic cars over the decades but the Aztek, introduced in 2001 and built through until August 2005, was not one of its finest moments. Spurred on by the idea that the Aztek can be made more appealing with some alterations, Abimelec Design has created these renderings.

(https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Pontiac-Aztek-Trans-Am-1-768x575.jpg)

In creating his modified Aztek, the designer took inspiration from the Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. Consequently, the SUV is finished in gloss black which alone helps to mask some of its horrific pieces of styling. In addition, the famous 'Screaming Chicken' decal of the Trans Am is featured on the Aztek's hood. Not too long ago, we stumbled across a BMW i8 featuring this famous decal and it works wonders on the Aztek, attracting your attention and drawing your eyes away from some of the SUV's less appealing parts, such as its split headlights and front grille.

Abimelec Design has also lowered the SUV, fitted a set of flared front and rear wheel arches, lowered the suspension, and rendered in a set of gold and silver wheels.

(https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Pontiac-Aztek-Trans-Am-2-768x576.jpg)


Link: https://www.carscoops.com/2020/04/pontiac-aztek-trans-am-firebird-is-so-wrong-its-right/
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 14, 2020, 11:05:42 AM
As if we needed another sign for the apocalypse.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: cawimmer430 on April 14, 2020, 11:11:15 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 14, 2020, 11:05:42 AM
As if we needed another sign for the apocalypse.

:lol:
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 14, 2020, 12:37:00 PM
God fucking dammit what the fuck
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: FoMoJo on April 14, 2020, 12:49:57 PM
No, it's just wrong. :nutty:
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: giant_mtb on April 14, 2020, 02:25:42 PM
Nope.  I appreciate Azteks, but nope.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Laconian on April 14, 2020, 02:37:29 PM
Azteks are the new brown wagons for 2020 Jalopniks.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 14, 2020, 02:56:07 PM
Quote from: Laconian on April 14, 2020, 02:37:29 PM
Azteks are the new brown wagons for 2020 Jalopniks.

:lol:
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 14, 2020, 02:57:09 PM
The rendering is pretty decent, other than the wing on the roof. But the car is still gonna be garbage with a lame drivetrain and subpar interior, unless the entire car has been re-done. But that would be $$$
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: shp4man on April 14, 2020, 03:04:50 PM
It's not that bad. But as they say, it is what it is.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Submariner on April 14, 2020, 04:49:42 PM
Can it make a LS2 work?
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 14, 2020, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: Submariner on April 14, 2020, 04:49:42 PM
Can it make a LS2 work?

Heck, it can barely make a 3400 work.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 14, 2020, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: Submariner on April 14, 2020, 04:49:42 PM
Can it make a LS2 work?

Supercharged 3800?
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 14, 2020, 07:11:36 PM
Azteks were so roomy inside though!!!!  LOL
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Submariner on April 15, 2020, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 14, 2020, 06:03:41 PM
Supercharged 3800?

:wub:
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Payman on April 15, 2020, 12:51:30 PM
Oh god, so... conflicted. I'm impressed, but know I shouldn't be.  :mask:
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Speed_Racer on April 15, 2020, 01:25:50 PM
yeah but you still have to look at this when driving it:

(https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/pontiac/aztek/2001/oem/2001_pontiac_aztek_4dr-suv_gt_i_oem_2_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: giant_mtb on April 15, 2020, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on April 15, 2020, 01:25:50 PM
yeah but you still have to look at this when driving it:

(https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/pontiac/aztek/2001/oem/2001_pontiac_aztek_4dr-suv_gt_i_oem_2_500.jpg)

It's not terrible. The gauges are nice anyway. The materials...well, not the best.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: MrH on April 15, 2020, 01:58:27 PM
That's not terrible to you?  What interior would you consider terrible?
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: giant_mtb on April 15, 2020, 02:01:32 PM
It's very simple and has standard GM radio/controls. The only part I think is actually terrible is the steering wheel.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: MrH on April 15, 2020, 02:08:13 PM
You have impossibly low standards.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 15, 2020, 02:18:13 PM
Quote from: MrH on April 15, 2020, 01:58:27 PM
That's not terrible to you?  What interior would you consider terrible?

Drove a van for a while where the dash was a 2x6 piece of lumber with an ashtray bolted to it...

Anyways, how nice the IP looks is to me, a highly over rated aspect of car ownership.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: MrH on April 15, 2020, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 15, 2020, 02:18:13 PM
Drove a van for a while where the dash was a 2x6 piece of lumber with an ashtray bolted to it...

Anyways, how nice the IP looks is to me, a highly over rated aspect of car ownership.


That's just rustic!

I think I might take that over an Aztec interior still
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 15, 2020, 02:22:43 PM
The real problem with that era of GM dash was the buttons would yellow over time, and there were so many gaps they were hard to keep clean.

Still; it would be only a minor consideration overall.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: shp4man on April 15, 2020, 02:25:32 PM
Oh, there are far worse... :lol:

(https://static2.thecleverimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Fiat-Multipla-interior-e1494104992652.jpg?q=40&w=928&h=526&fit=crop)
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: CALL_911 on April 15, 2020, 02:33:13 PM
Lol it's kind of amazing, the Aztek doesn't actually look all that ridiculous or unattractive anymore compared to some of the other shit on the road.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: giant_mtb on April 15, 2020, 02:38:27 PM
Quote from: MrH on April 15, 2020, 02:08:13 PM
You have impossibly low standards.

I dunno man. I detail like 180+ cars every summer. I've been in more different vehicle interiors than probably just about anybody here.  Perhaps I am just jaded. It's a standard 2000s GM interior. It is cheap and basic, not offensive (besides the awkward steeeing wheel hub shape).
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on April 15, 2020, 02:40:21 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on April 15, 2020, 02:33:13 PM
Lol it's kind of amazing, the Aztek doesn't actually look all that ridiculous or unattractive anymore compared to some of the other shit on the road.
WORD!!!
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 15, 2020, 03:20:24 PM
Quote from: shp4man on April 15, 2020, 02:25:32 PM
Oh, there are far worse... :lol:

(https://static2.thecleverimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Fiat-Multipla-interior-e1494104992652.jpg?q=40&w=928&h=526&fit=crop)

barf!
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: FoMoJo on April 15, 2020, 03:34:39 PM
Quote from: shp4man on April 15, 2020, 02:25:32 PM
Oh, there are far worse... :lol:

(https://static2.thecleverimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Fiat-Multipla-interior-e1494104992652.jpg?q=40&w=928&h=526&fit=crop)
Reminds of a Ghetto Blaster. :ohyeah:
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: mzziaz on April 16, 2020, 01:26:22 AM
Hey, the Multipla dash is awesome!
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: 2o6 on April 17, 2020, 05:37:57 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on April 15, 2020, 02:33:13 PM
Lol it's kind of amazing, the Aztek doesn't actually look all that ridiculous or unattractive anymore compared to some of the other shit on the road.


god no


The Aztek was more than an "ugly" car.

It was also badly made and horribly cheap.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Laconian on April 17, 2020, 05:59:06 PM
Yup yup, America had a LOL when the winner of "Survivor" drove off into the sunset in his prize Aztek.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: 2o6 on April 17, 2020, 06:01:36 PM
Also, the Aztek was lazily engineered. The Juke is polarizing, but the Aztek has bad detailing and poor proportions - since it's basically awkward styling thrown up on a SWB Venture Van.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 17, 2020, 07:29:41 PM
I feel like a more modern Aztek would have been hugely popular if they released it like 4 years ago or whenever the #vanlife stuff starting taking off
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: FoMoJo on April 17, 2020, 07:33:43 PM
Why would anyone ever want to see a modern Aztek?  Just leave it buried and never mention it again.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: CALL_911 on April 18, 2020, 05:24:31 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on April 17, 2020, 05:37:57 PM

god no


The Aztek was more than an "ugly" car.

It was also badly made and horribly cheap.

No argument, I'm purely talking about the styling
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: giant_mtb on April 18, 2020, 08:35:43 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 17, 2020, 07:33:43 PM
Why would anyone ever want to see a modern Aztek?  Just leave it buried and never mention it again.

The Aztek was one of the first modern crossovers. Which are now everywhere. 
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: FoMoJo on April 18, 2020, 08:54:45 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 18, 2020, 08:35:43 AM
The Aztek was one of the first modern crossovers. Which are now everywhere. 
I recall the Aztek came out about the same time as the Escape which followed the Honda CRV which followed Toyota RAV4.

I'm really glad I got the first year Escape.  It lasted 15+ years before I sold it (may still be on the road somewhere).
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: giant_mtb on April 18, 2020, 09:18:59 AM
My point was, most crossovers follow the Aztek (and Escape, CRV, RAV4, etc).  Aztek and Escape were the first domestics, the Japanese were half a decade ahead of the game and it still shows.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Laconian on April 18, 2020, 11:51:21 AM
The CR-V and the RAV4 were *the* pioneering CUVs. They delivered SUV practicality and looks with compact car thriftiness. The Aztek was powered by High Value V6 pooprods and sadness, and was released five years later.

The only neat thing about the Aztek was the tent feature. :lol:
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: 2o6 on April 18, 2020, 04:50:51 PM
For Midsized crossovers, the Aztek and Rendezvous were definitely some of the first. The Toyota Highlander was similar in concept, and didn't come until a few weeks later. Also, arguably, the RAV-4, Escape, and CR-V were more car-based SUV's rather than true crossovers.



But once again, it was a cheaply made and designed product. Although the Civic, Corolla, and Camry were made to make crossovers, it's not like there's a big sharing of hard points between those cars and those SUV counterparts.

GM used an old minivan chassis (It's a venture van - they have the same windshield even) that wasn't all that competitive in the first place. FWD Azteks have a solid axle, even. The suspension design are from the U-body vans (which in turn was based on the old A-body Celebrity). The wheels are tiny - larger wheels won't fix the design. It's also very slab-sided, since bending any sheet metal would have been over budget if the chassis would have accommodated it.

Honda, Toyota and even Ford went wholly into making a true entry into the class.


GM just made an ugly minivan and sic'ed that thing onto the public.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: FoMoJo on April 18, 2020, 04:57:44 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on April 18, 2020, 04:50:51 PM
For Midsized crossovers, the Aztek and Rendezvous were definitely some of the first. The Toyota Highlander was similar in concept, and didn't come until a few weeks later. Also, arguably, the RAV-4, Escape, and CR-V were more car-based SUV's rather than true crossovers.



But once again, it was a cheaply made and designed product. Although the Civic, Corolla, and Camry were made to make crossovers, it's not like there's a big sharing of hard points between those cars and those SUV counterparts.

GM used an old minivan chassis (It's a venture van - they have the same windshield even) that wasn't all that competitive in the first place. FWD Azteks have a solid axle, even. The suspension design are from the U-body vans (which in turn was based on the old A-body Celebrity). The wheels are tiny - larger wheels won't fix the design. It's also very slab-sided, since bending any sheet metal would have been over budget if the chassis would have accommodated it.

Honda, Toyota and even Ford went wholly into making a true entry into the class.


GM just made an ugly minivan and sic'ed that thing onto the public.
It must be said that Mazda contributed more to the Escape initially, than Ford, though the Duratec engine was/is marvelous.

It was said to have been based on the Protege platform, but it wandered from that considerably.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: 2o6 on April 18, 2020, 05:09:51 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 18, 2020, 04:57:44 PM
It must be said that Mazda contributed more to the Escape initially, than Ford, though the Duratec engine was/is marvelous.

It was said to have been based on the Protege platform, but it wandered from that considerably.

Underneath, it's a 626.
Title: Re: Pontiac Aztek ‘Trans Am Firebird’ Is So Wrong It’s Right
Post by: Submariner on April 20, 2020, 09:09:45 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 18, 2020, 09:18:59 AM
My point was, most crossovers follow the Aztek (and Escape, CRV, RAV4, etc).  Aztek and Escape were the first domestics, the Japanese were half a decade ahead of the game and it still shows.

The Lexus RX300 made its debut in 1999.  I'd say that was the first real crossover in the US.