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Title: McLaren Elva
Post by: Submariner on November 14, 2019, 09:16:32 PM
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/british/ps14m-elva-mclarens-lightest-ever-road-car

(https://www.topgear.com/sites/default/files/styles/fit_1960x1102/public/images/news-article/carousel/2019/11/975a8bca93cdcafe54950edc770b0e52/13112019_mclaren_elva_image-08.jpg?itok=NP1sbVDm)
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: Galaxy on November 14, 2019, 09:43:39 PM
One of the best looking vehicles they have made. The aeroscreen sounds interesting.
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: Laconian on November 14, 2019, 10:48:46 PM
Quote from: Galaxy on November 14, 2019, 09:43:39 PM
One of the best looking vehicles they have made. The aeroscreen sounds interesting.

I wish I could experience it for myself.
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: r0tor on November 15, 2019, 05:51:37 AM
Much better looking then their recent offerings
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: MrH on November 15, 2019, 07:57:34 AM
I'm 100% all for cars without windshields.  We need more of them.
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: 12,000 RPM on November 15, 2019, 08:43:13 AM
Reminds me of the Lotus 3 Eleven. I don't mind it
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: MX793 on November 15, 2019, 08:47:55 AM
Anybody who thinks driving a car with a wind diverter instead of a proper wind screen is a good idea clearly doesn't live in an area with a lot of insects.  My motorcycle "windscreen" is more of an air diverter than action windshield.  It comes up to about my mid chest and throws air over you so your body is in a largely wind-free zone.  I have it set so that air still hits my head just to keep my helmeted head cool.  Front of my jacket is covered in the entrails of the numerous large insects that weigh too much to be diverted with the airstream and pass straight through into me.  Not to mention being hit by stones when I get stuck behind a dump truck or something other large truck that just pulled out of a gravel road or lot.
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: 12,000 RPM on November 15, 2019, 08:49:57 AM
To be fair these things are gonna get bought and stored in climate controlled garages

They might bring them out for car shows

Practical concerns are not relevant.
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: MrH on November 15, 2019, 08:52:41 AM
Quote from: MX793 on November 15, 2019, 08:47:55 AM
Anybody who thinks driving a car with a wind diverter instead of a proper wind screen is a good idea clearly doesn't live in an area with a lot of insects.  My motorcycle "windscreen" is more of an air diverter than action windshield.  It comes up to about my mid chest and throws air over you so your body is in a largely wind-free zone.  I have it set so that air still hits my head just to keep my helmeted head cool.  Front of my jacket is covered in the entrails of the numerous large insects that weigh too much to be diverted with the airstream and pass straight through into me.  Not to mention being hit by stones when I get stuck behind a dump truck or something other large truck that just pulled out of a gravel road or lot.

I'm ok wearing a helmet.
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: FoMoJo on November 15, 2019, 09:52:43 AM
Remarkable engineering, but it looks like a giant insect.
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: Laconian on November 15, 2019, 11:13:56 AM
Quote from: MX793 on November 15, 2019, 08:47:55 AM
Anybody who thinks driving a car with a wind diverter instead of a proper wind screen is a good idea clearly doesn't live in an area with a lot of insects.  My motorcycle "windscreen" is more of an air diverter than action windshield.  It comes up to about my mid chest and throws air over you so your body is in a largely wind-free zone.  I have it set so that air still hits my head just to keep my helmeted head cool.  Front of my jacket is covered in the entrails of the numerous large insects that weigh too much to be diverted with the airstream and pass straight through into me.  Not to mention being hit by stones when I get stuck behind a dump truck or something other large truck that just pulled out of a gravel road or lot.

A few more years of business as usual, and there won't be any insects left to hit. :cry:
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: MX793 on November 15, 2019, 11:31:58 AM
Quote from: Laconian on November 15, 2019, 11:13:56 AM
A few more years of business as usual, and there won't be any insects left to hit. :cry:

Can't say I've noticed a sharp decline in the number of flying insects locally.  Bees, maybe.  But still plenty of beetles, dragonflies, butterflies, mosquitoes (despite local efforts to spray for them to keep EEE in check), black flies, and various members of the wasp family.  I've twice, while riding, been stung in the neck by yellowjackets that somehow got caught up in the strap of my helmet, either hitting my neck directly or bouncing off my torso upwards through the bottom of my helmet.  And impact from Japanese beetles probably sting worse than just about any other flying insect I've hit if they happen to smack into some unprotected skin.  Their shells are very hard.  Most other large bugs splatter, which helps absorb some of the impact.
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: FoMoJo on November 15, 2019, 11:36:03 AM
Quote from: MX793 on November 15, 2019, 11:31:58 AM
Can't say I've noticed a sharp decline in the number of flying insects locally.  Bees, maybe.  But still plenty of beetles, dragonflies, butterflies, mosquitoes (despite local efforts to spray for them to keep EEE in check), black flies, and various members of the wasp family.  I've twice, while riding, been stung in the neck by yellowjackets that somehow got caught up in the strap of my helmet, either hitting my neck directly or bouncing off my torso upwards through the bottom of my helmet.  And impact from Japanese beetles probably sting worse than just about any other flying insect I've hit if they happen to smack into some unprotected skin.  Their shells are very hard.  Most other large bugs splatter, which helps absorb some of the impact.
I imagine that June bugs could give you quite a wallop at speed.
Title: Re: McLaren Elva
Post by: MX793 on November 15, 2019, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 15, 2019, 11:36:03 AM
I imagine that June bugs could give you quite a wallop at speed.

Those too.  Very similar to Japanese beetles (both scarab beetles).  Though June bugs tend to be nocturnal so you don't encounter too many flying around in the day.