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Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 05:45:46 PM
My brother's '93 Explorer is in pretty bad shape...  We just had to get the alternator and tensioner replaced as well as the front brake pads and rotors.  (both of which I told my parents needed to be replaced but they didn't listen and when they crapped out they learned their lesson about listening to me...)  

But anyways, the paint around the wheel-wells and areas like that is coming off.  The areas where there isn't any paint is rust.  I was wondering if there is any way to stop the continuation of the paint peeling or chipping without having to paint the entire car or something.  If I removed the rust would that help?  I wanna know because I'm gonna have to drive this beast when I turn 16 and I don't want to be driving a rust bucket around... :P  
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 06:01:22 PM
maybe put one of those clear plastic sheets that are transparent over the wheelwells, or put one of those plastic splashgaurds on the wheelwells.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:02:17 PM
Quotemaybe put one of those clear plastic sheets that are transparent over the wheelwells, or put one of those plastic splashgaurds on the wheelwells.
I'm not quite sure what you mean or what you're talking about...
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 06:04:36 PM
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I'm not quite sure what you mean or what you're talking about...
something like this:
(http://www.ecarboutique.com/images/upload/items/hummer_splashguard.jpg)
^the black trim piece over the wheelwell^
some company also sells clear plastic adhesive transparent sheets to prevent paint chips from rocks, etc, but i forgot what it's called.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:07:52 PM
Oh I see now.  The paint chip/peel is beyond what one of those could cover...  He also got his left side-skirt ripped off in a fight with a snowbank this past winter, and that area is pretty much all rust...his side trim is starting to come off; exposing the paint and now that's starting to peel...and yeah...if I had a camera handy I'd go take some pics quick...but I don't have one right now...
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 06:09:12 PM
QuoteOh I see now.  The paint chip/peel is beyond what one of those could cover...  He also got his left side-skirt ripped off in a fight with a snowbank this past winter, and that area is pretty much all rust...his side trim is starting to come off; exposing the paint and now that's starting to peel...and yeah...if I had a camera handy I'd go take some pics quick...but I don't have one right now...
i spend the money to get a repaint, and get all the rust out by cutting it out and replacing it with fresh metal.
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Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:10:46 PM
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QuoteOh I see now.  The paint chip/peel is beyond what one of those could cover...  He also got his left side-skirt ripped off in a fight with a snowbank this past winter, and that area is pretty much all rust...his side trim is starting to come off; exposing the paint and now that's starting to peel...and yeah...if I had a camera handy I'd go take some pics quick...but I don't have one right now...
i spend the money to get a repaint, and get all the rust out by cutting it out and replacing it with fresh metal.
How much would that cost...?

If I got rid of the surface-rust would that at least slow down the deterioration of the paint?  (I could simply Dremel it off)
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Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 06:12:45 PM
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QuoteOh I see now.  The paint chip/peel is beyond what one of those could cover...  He also got his left side-skirt ripped off in a fight with a snowbank this past winter, and that area is pretty much all rust...his side trim is starting to come off; exposing the paint and now that's starting to peel...and yeah...if I had a camera handy I'd go take some pics quick...but I don't have one right now...
i spend the money to get a repaint, and get all the rust out by cutting it out and replacing it with fresh metal.
How much would that cost...?

If I got rid of the surface-rust would that at least slow down the deterioration of the paint?  (I could simply Dremel it off)
i don't think so. i'd take out the rust, then get a repaint. it'll be expensive, but i don't kno w how bad your situation is.
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Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:19:17 PM
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QuoteOh I see now.  The paint chip/peel is beyond what one of those could cover...  He also got his left side-skirt ripped off in a fight with a snowbank this past winter, and that area is pretty much all rust...his side trim is starting to come off; exposing the paint and now that's starting to peel...and yeah...if I had a camera handy I'd go take some pics quick...but I don't have one right now...
i spend the money to get a repaint, and get all the rust out by cutting it out and replacing it with fresh metal.
How much would that cost...?

If I got rid of the surface-rust would that at least slow down the deterioration of the paint?  (I could simply Dremel it off)
i don't think so. i'd take out the rust, then get a repaint. it'll be expensive, but i don't kno w how bad your situation is.
I doubt we'd get it repainted...after I drive it for 2 years (i'll get a car of my choice when I turn 18) I don't think we'll keep it.  I don't think it would be necessary to pay for a complete re-paint if it's only gonna be used for another 3 years...but I don't know...
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Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 06:20:15 PM
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QuoteOh I see now.  The paint chip/peel is beyond what one of those could cover...  He also got his left side-skirt ripped off in a fight with a snowbank this past winter, and that area is pretty much all rust...his side trim is starting to come off; exposing the paint and now that's starting to peel...and yeah...if I had a camera handy I'd go take some pics quick...but I don't have one right now...
i spend the money to get a repaint, and get all the rust out by cutting it out and replacing it with fresh metal.
How much would that cost...?

If I got rid of the surface-rust would that at least slow down the deterioration of the paint?  (I could simply Dremel it off)
i don't think so. i'd take out the rust, then get a repaint. it'll be expensive, but i don't kno w how bad your situation is.
I doubt we'd get it repainted...after I drive it for 2 years (i'll get a car of my choice when I turn 18) I don't think we'll keep it.  I don't think it would be necessary to pay for a complete re-paint if it's only gonna be used for another 3 years...but I don't know...
then drive it asis for a couple of years till you get a car...
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:21:48 PM
Darn...and I thought there mighta been some cheap and easy way to get it fixed or retained...  <_<  :angry:  :P  
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Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 06:23:24 PM
QuoteDarn...and I thought there mighta been some cheap and easy way to get it fixed or retained...  <_<  :angry:  :P
if you're not going to use it long, then why waste money fixing it?
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Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:26:46 PM
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QuoteDarn...and I thought there mighta been some cheap and easy way to get it fixed or retained...  <_<  :angry:  :P
if you're not going to use it long, then why waste money fixing it?
Well I'm not gonna spend any money on it...but actually if it woulda been something like 50-100 bucks to get it all fixed or whatever I'd do it...  But I guess I'll just dremel away the rust and go from there.  :praise:  
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Post by: TBR on May 28, 2005, 06:26:56 PM
Don't worry about it, you will only have to drive it for a couple of years and as long as it is sound mechanically no one will make fun of you.  
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Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:29:18 PM
QuoteDon't worry about it, you will only have to drive it for a couple of years and as long as it is sound mechanically no one will make fun of you.
lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
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Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 06:30:21 PM
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QuoteDon't worry about it, you will only have to drive it for a couple of years and as long as it is sound mechanically no one will make fun of you.
lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
just hope it doesn't fall apart when you get it when you're 16.
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Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:34:46 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
just hope it doesn't fall apart when you get it when you're 16.
That's what I'm afraid of... <_<   But it's actually pretty mechanically sound.  It has about 145K miles and the 4WD works fine and everything else works...just the body needs serious work.  All three of the people that owned it in my family (my dad, then my brother, then my other brother) have been in an accident with it...  The front bumper is dented in from my oldest brother...The driver's door is dented in from my dad and me hitting a snowbank at about 40 MPH cause the road was complete ice...and the left sideskirt is gone because my brother somehow went into a snowbank on a straight road while going uphill... <_<  :P  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:   I'm gonna break the chain and NOT get in an accident with it! :lol:  
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Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 06:36:16 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
just hope it doesn't fall apart when you get it when you're 16.
That's what I'm afraid of... <_<   But it's actually pretty mechanically sound.  It has about 145K miles and the 4WD works fine and everything else works...just the body needs serious work.  All three of the people that owned it in my family (my dad, then my brother, then my other brother) have been in an accident with it...  The front bumper is dented in from my oldest brother...The driver's door is dented in from my dad and me hitting a snowbank at about 40 MPH cause the road was complete ice...and the left sideskirt is gone because my brother somehow went into a snowbank on a straight road while going uphill... <_<  :P  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:   I'm gonna break the chain and NOT get in an accident with it! :lol:
and the first snowfall comes... :lol:  
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Post by: TBR on May 28, 2005, 06:36:47 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
Yep, just be happy that you won't have to buy your own car.  
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Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:37:48 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
just hope it doesn't fall apart when you get it when you're 16.
That's what I'm afraid of... <_<   But it's actually pretty mechanically sound.  It has about 145K miles and the 4WD works fine and everything else works...just the body needs serious work.  All three of the people that owned it in my family (my dad, then my brother, then my other brother) have been in an accident with it...  The front bumper is dented in from my oldest brother...The driver's door is dented in from my dad and me hitting a snowbank at about 40 MPH cause the road was complete ice...and the left sideskirt is gone because my brother somehow went into a snowbank on a straight road while going uphill... <_<  :P  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:   I'm gonna break the chain and NOT get in an accident with it! :lol:
and the first snowfall comes... :lol:
lol   Actually all the accidents were in the winter... ironic!  And in none of the accidents was the 4WD engaged... <_<   (the one that involved the front bumper was when my oldest brother took a turn too fast and hit some slush and smashed the front of the Explorer into the front corner or a car at the intersection...)
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Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:38:46 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
Yep, just be happy that you won't have to buy your own car.
Yeah...some kids here brag about buying a 400 dollar car...but with their own money!   I'm like...umm..congrats.  :praise:  Although the Explorer I get to drive is probably worth about 400...lol
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Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 06:39:45 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
just hope it doesn't fall apart when you get it when you're 16.
That's what I'm afraid of... <_<   But it's actually pretty mechanically sound.  It has about 145K miles and the 4WD works fine and everything else works...just the body needs serious work.  All three of the people that owned it in my family (my dad, then my brother, then my other brother) have been in an accident with it...  The front bumper is dented in from my oldest brother...The driver's door is dented in from my dad and me hitting a snowbank at about 40 MPH cause the road was complete ice...and the left sideskirt is gone because my brother somehow went into a snowbank on a straight road while going uphill... <_<  :P  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:   I'm gonna break the chain and NOT get in an accident with it! :lol:
and the first snowfall comes... :lol:
lol   Actually all the accidents were in the winter... ironic!  And in none of the accidents was the 4WD engaged... <_<   (the one that involved the front bumper was when my oldest brother took a turn too fast and hit some slush and smashed the front of the Explorer into the front corner or a car at the intersection...)
teh exploder has part time 4WD, right? so you can go drifting! :praise:  :rockon:  
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Post by: TBR on May 28, 2005, 06:40:32 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
Yep, just be happy that you won't have to buy your own car.
Yeah...some kids here brag about buying a 400 dollar car...but with their own money!   I'm like...umm..congrats.  :praise:  Although the Explorer I get to drive is probably worth about 400...lol
I doubt it, even crap piles are more expensive than you might think.  
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Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:41:33 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
just hope it doesn't fall apart when you get it when you're 16.
That's what I'm afraid of... <_<   But it's actually pretty mechanically sound.  It has about 145K miles and the 4WD works fine and everything else works...just the body needs serious work.  All three of the people that owned it in my family (my dad, then my brother, then my other brother) have been in an accident with it...  The front bumper is dented in from my oldest brother...The driver's door is dented in from my dad and me hitting a snowbank at about 40 MPH cause the road was complete ice...and the left sideskirt is gone because my brother somehow went into a snowbank on a straight road while going uphill... <_<  :P  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:   I'm gonna break the chain and NOT get in an accident with it! :lol:
and the first snowfall comes... :lol:
lol   Actually all the accidents were in the winter... ironic!  And in none of the accidents was the 4WD engaged... <_<   (the one that involved the front bumper was when my oldest brother took a turn too fast and hit some slush and smashed the front of the Explorer into the front corner or a car at the intersection...)
teh exploder has part time 4WD, right? so you can go drifting! :praise:  :rockon:
Part-time...sure!  Yeah..you have to "lock" the front wheels and then shift it into 4WD when you want it...and then you have to "unlock" the wheels when you want to shift out of it... <_<   Not much fun when it's 10 degrees out...  


And yeah...I could go drifting!  :P   Icy parking lots are gonna be the funnest...  :lol:  
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Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 06:42:00 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
Yep, just be happy that you won't have to buy your own car.
Yeah...some kids here brag about buying a 400 dollar car...but with their own money!   I'm like...umm..congrats.  :praise:  Although the Explorer I get to drive is probably worth about 400...lol
I doubt it, even crap piles are more expensive than you might think.
i saw a Jetta selling for $99 once. :lol:  
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Post by: TBR on May 28, 2005, 06:44:16 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
Yep, just be happy that you won't have to buy your own car.
Yeah...some kids here brag about buying a 400 dollar car...but with their own money!   I'm like...umm..congrats.  :praise:  Although the Explorer I get to drive is probably worth about 400...lol
I doubt it, even crap piles are more expensive than you might think.
i saw a Jetta selling for $99 once. :lol:
But I bet it wasn't mechanically sound.
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Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 06:45:04 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
Yep, just be happy that you won't have to buy your own car.
Yeah...some kids here brag about buying a 400 dollar car...but with their own money!   I'm like...umm..congrats.  :praise:  Although the Explorer I get to drive is probably worth about 400...lol
I doubt it, even crap piles are more expensive than you might think.
i saw a Jetta selling for $99 once. :lol:
But I bet it wasn't mechanically sound.
probably not, considering it was an '86.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:46:11 PM
The cheapest cars around here are always in the "Nifty 250" section of our Classified ads! Nifty 250 as in something that you're selling for 250 bucks.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  
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Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 06:50:22 PM
QuoteThe cheapest cars around here are always in the "Nifty 250" section of our Classified ads! Nifty 250 as in something that you're selling for 250 bucks.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
umm... :rolleyes:  
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Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:54:13 PM
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umm... :rolleyes:
Yeah, I know, it's dumb...don't blame me...it's the newspaper's fault!  :lol:  
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Post by: TBR on May 28, 2005, 06:54:55 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
Yep, just be happy that you won't have to buy your own car.
Yeah...some kids here brag about buying a 400 dollar car...but with their own money!   I'm like...umm..congrats.  :praise:  Although the Explorer I get to drive is probably worth about 400...lol
I doubt it, even crap piles are more expensive than you might think.
i saw a Jetta selling for $99 once. :lol:
But I bet it wasn't mechanically sound.
probably not, considering it was an '86.
The age of a car doesn't determine its mechanical soundness, rather it is how it was taken care of and any car selling for $99, whether it is a '86 or a '00, wasn't properly taken care of.  
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Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2005, 06:56:32 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
Yep, just be happy that you won't have to buy your own car.
Yeah...some kids here brag about buying a 400 dollar car...but with their own money!   I'm like...umm..congrats.  :praise:  Although the Explorer I get to drive is probably worth about 400...lol
I doubt it, even crap piles are more expensive than you might think.
i saw a Jetta selling for $99 once. :lol:
But I bet it wasn't mechanically sound.
probably not, considering it was an '86.
The age of a car doesn't determine its mechanical soundness, rather it is how it was taken care of and any car selling for $99, whether it is a '86 or a '00, wasn't properly taken care of.
I'd buy just about any car for 99 dollars...just for something to mess around with and have some fun with.
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Post by: ifcar on May 28, 2005, 06:57:35 PM
On the subject of expensive crap piles, anyone remember the C/D reader sighting of a certain classified ad? It read something like "1996 Acura Integra, $3,500, only rolled once." It's pictured upside down. :lol:
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Post by: TBR on May 28, 2005, 07:06:15 PM
QuoteOn the subject of expensive crap piles, anyone remember the C/D reader sighting of a certain classified ad? It read something like "1996 Acura Integra, $3,500, only rolled once." It's pictured upside down. :lol:
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Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 07:15:46 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
Yep, just be happy that you won't have to buy your own car.
Yeah...some kids here brag about buying a 400 dollar car...but with their own money!   I'm like...umm..congrats.  :praise:  Although the Explorer I get to drive is probably worth about 400...lol
I doubt it, even crap piles are more expensive than you might think.
i saw a Jetta selling for $99 once. :lol:
But I bet it wasn't mechanically sound.
probably not, considering it was an '86.
The age of a car doesn't determine its mechanical soundness, rather it is how it was taken care of and any car selling for $99, whether it is a '86 or a '00, wasn't properly taken care of.
i know, but an '86 would prolly go for $1k, but since it's not mechanically sound, it's so cheap.
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Post by: TBR on May 28, 2005, 07:21:39 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
Yep, just be happy that you won't have to buy your own car.
Yeah...some kids here brag about buying a 400 dollar car...but with their own money!   I'm like...umm..congrats.  :praise:  Although the Explorer I get to drive is probably worth about 400...lol
I doubt it, even crap piles are more expensive than you might think.
i saw a Jetta selling for $99 once. :lol:
But I bet it wasn't mechanically sound.
probably not, considering it was an '86.
The age of a car doesn't determine its mechanical soundness, rather it is how it was taken care of and any car selling for $99, whether it is a '86 or a '00, wasn't properly taken care of.
i know, but an '86 would prolly go for $1k, but since it's not mechanically sound, it's so cheap.
A domestic car from '86 would probably go for $800-$1200 in good shape, but an import like a Jetta could probably fetch as much as $2000.
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Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 07:22:43 PM
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lol Yeah I guess you're right...there's a lot worse at my high school than the Explorer...
Yep, just be happy that you won't have to buy your own car.
Yeah...some kids here brag about buying a 400 dollar car...but with their own money!   I'm like...umm..congrats.  :praise:  Although the Explorer I get to drive is probably worth about 400...lol
I doubt it, even crap piles are more expensive than you might think.
i saw a Jetta selling for $99 once. :lol:
But I bet it wasn't mechanically sound.
probably not, considering it was an '86.
The age of a car doesn't determine its mechanical soundness, rather it is how it was taken care of and any car selling for $99, whether it is a '86 or a '00, wasn't properly taken care of.
i know, but an '86 would prolly go for $1k, but since it's not mechanically sound, it's so cheap.
A domestic car from '86 would probably go for $800-$1200 in good shape, but an import like a Jetta could probably fetch as much as $2000.
that's why i'm saying it musn't be mechanically sound for it to be that cheap.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Rupert on May 29, 2005, 03:21:22 PM
You could sand the rust and spot paint just those areas...
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 03:25:35 PM
QuoteYou could sand the rust and spot paint just those areas...
it would look a bit patchy though. better than a rustbucket, i guess.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on May 29, 2005, 06:11:26 PM
QuoteYou could sand the rust and spot paint just those areas...
I'd need quite a bit of spot paint or touch up paint to cover all the rust...so I'll probably just get rid of the rust via sanding or dremel-ing to at least slow the deterioration somewhat...
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 06:21:08 PM
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QuoteYou could sand the rust and spot paint just those areas...
I'd need quite a bit of spot paint or touch up paint to cover all the rust...so I'll probably just get rid of the rust via sanding or dremel-ing to at least slow the deterioration somewhat...
after getting all the rust out, be sure to protect those places somehow or esle they'll rust again.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on May 29, 2005, 06:26:10 PM
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QuoteYou could sand the rust and spot paint just those areas...
I'd need quite a bit of spot paint or touch up paint to cover all the rust...so I'll probably just get rid of the rust via sanding or dremel-ing to at least slow the deterioration somewhat...
after getting all the rust out, be sure to protect those places somehow or esle they'll rust again.
But with what...is there some sort of spray or invisible covering I could put on the areas to prevent it..?
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 07:22:04 PM
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QuoteYou could sand the rust and spot paint just those areas...
I'd need quite a bit of spot paint or touch up paint to cover all the rust...so I'll probably just get rid of the rust via sanding or dremel-ing to at least slow the deterioration somewhat...
after getting all the rust out, be sure to protect those places somehow or esle they'll rust again.
But with what...is there some sort of spray or invisible covering I could put on the areas to prevent it..?
dunno, do some reasearch on the net maybe?
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on May 29, 2005, 07:52:53 PM
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QuoteYou could sand the rust and spot paint just those areas...
I'd need quite a bit of spot paint or touch up paint to cover all the rust...so I'll probably just get rid of the rust via sanding or dremel-ing to at least slow the deterioration somewhat...
after getting all the rust out, be sure to protect those places somehow or esle they'll rust again.
But with what...is there some sort of spray or invisible covering I could put on the areas to prevent it..?
dunno, do some reasearch on the net maybe?
I'll just try Menards or something...and if that doesn't work I'll do some research quick and maybe take a trip to the nearest AutoZone (90 miles away.. <_< )
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 08:02:01 PM
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QuoteYou could sand the rust and spot paint just those areas...
I'd need quite a bit of spot paint or touch up paint to cover all the rust...so I'll probably just get rid of the rust via sanding or dremel-ing to at least slow the deterioration somewhat...
after getting all the rust out, be sure to protect those places somehow or esle they'll rust again.
But with what...is there some sort of spray or invisible covering I could put on the areas to prevent it..?
dunno, do some reasearch on the net maybe?
I'll just try Menards or something...and if that doesn't work I'll do some research quick and maybe take a trip to the nearest AutoZone (90 miles away.. <_< )
wow. why is everythign so far away for you???
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Run Away on May 29, 2005, 10:24:58 PM
QuoteOn the subject of expensive crap piles, anyone remember the C/D reader sighting of a certain classified ad? It read something like "1996 Acura Integra, $3,500, only rolled once." It's pictured upside down. :lol:
The stupid part is that it's actually worth that, if it's a GS-R model. :(

Damn expensive Hondas.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Run Away on May 29, 2005, 10:27:28 PM
If it's just surface rust (no holes) then sand it down, then rattle can paint it.

If your brother will not let you do this to "his" car then at least have him let you apply some rust treatment (the stuff that stops the spreading so that it won't get any rustier by the time you have it).
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 10:29:08 PM
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QuoteOn the subject of expensive crap piles, anyone remember the C/D reader sighting of a certain classified ad? It read something like "1996 Acura Integra, $3,500, only rolled once." It's pictured upside down. :lol:
The stupid part is that it's actually worth that, if it's a GS-R model. :(

Damn expensive Hondas.
why are they worth that much?
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Run Away on May 29, 2005, 10:37:21 PM
B18C1 engine is what justifies the price, mostly.
It's worth about $2500 along with the transmission.
Plus you can strip the rest of the car for parts, or rebuild it.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 10:38:20 PM
QuoteB18C1 engine is what justifies the price, mostly.
It's worth about $2500 along with the transmission.
Plus you can strip the rest of the car for parts, or rebuild it.
just for the engine and tranny? :o  
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Run Away on May 30, 2005, 09:42:28 AM
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QuoteB18C1 engine is what justifies the price, mostly.
It's worth about $2500 along with the transmission.
Plus you can strip the rest of the car for parts, or rebuild it.
just for the engine and tranny? :o
Yup.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...ssPageName=WDVW (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33615&item=7977258931&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

Here's one for $2,900 for just the engine, no tranny. This one is probably in better condition than most, but still.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 10:10:36 AM
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It's worth about $2500 along with the transmission.
Plus you can strip the rest of the car for parts, or rebuild it.
just for the engine and tranny? :o
Yup.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...ssPageName=WDVW (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33615&item=7977258931&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

Here's one for $2,900 for just the engine, no tranny. This one is probably in better condition than most, but still.
it has 152k miles on it already....
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on May 30, 2005, 11:28:11 AM
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QuoteYou could sand the rust and spot paint just those areas...
I'd need quite a bit of spot paint or touch up paint to cover all the rust...so I'll probably just get rid of the rust via sanding or dremel-ing to at least slow the deterioration somewhat...
after getting all the rust out, be sure to protect those places somehow or esle they'll rust again.
But with what...is there some sort of spray or invisible covering I could put on the areas to prevent it..?
dunno, do some reasearch on the net maybe?
I'll just try Menards or something...and if that doesn't work I'll do some research quick and maybe take a trip to the nearest AutoZone (90 miles away.. <_< )
wow. why is everythign so far away for you???
Well...I guess technically you could consider the entire Upper Peninsula a rural area...so maybe that's why, but I dunno...my area just doesn't have an Auto Zone.  We have NAPA and Menards and Wal-Mart for that so there really isn't any need...so the closest one is about 90 miles away...oh well.  :angry:  
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on May 30, 2005, 11:29:19 AM
QuoteIf it's just surface rust (no holes) then sand it down, then rattle can paint it.

If your brother will not let you do this to "his" car then at least have him let you apply some rust treatment (the stuff that stops the spreading so that it won't get any rustier by the time you have it).
Yeah...it's just surface rust, and a lot of it! lol   Spray paint it?!

I doubt he'd let me do that...but who knows.  I might have to wait until I have the car in order to do it...which by then there might be rust holes 'cause the kid never washes the thing...even in the winter.  <_<  :rolleyes:  
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 11:29:37 AM
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QuoteYou could sand the rust and spot paint just those areas...
I'd need quite a bit of spot paint or touch up paint to cover all the rust...so I'll probably just get rid of the rust via sanding or dremel-ing to at least slow the deterioration somewhat...
after getting all the rust out, be sure to protect those places somehow or esle they'll rust again.
But with what...is there some sort of spray or invisible covering I could put on the areas to prevent it..?
dunno, do some reasearch on the net maybe?
I'll just try Menards or something...and if that doesn't work I'll do some research quick and maybe take a trip to the nearest AutoZone (90 miles away.. <_< )
wow. why is everythign so far away for you???
Well...I guess technically you could consider the entire Upper Peninsula a rural area...so maybe that's why, but I dunno...my area just doesn't have an Auto Zone.  We have NAPA and Menards and Wal-Mart for that so there really isn't any need...so the closest one is about 90 miles away...oh well.  :angry:
rural areas are sort of wierd....
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on May 30, 2005, 11:40:11 AM
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QuoteYou could sand the rust and spot paint just those areas...
I'd need quite a bit of spot paint or touch up paint to cover all the rust...so I'll probably just get rid of the rust via sanding or dremel-ing to at least slow the deterioration somewhat...
after getting all the rust out, be sure to protect those places somehow or esle they'll rust again.
But with what...is there some sort of spray or invisible covering I could put on the areas to prevent it..?
dunno, do some reasearch on the net maybe?
I'll just try Menards or something...and if that doesn't work I'll do some research quick and maybe take a trip to the nearest AutoZone (90 miles away.. <_< )
wow. why is everythign so far away for you???
Well...I guess technically you could consider the entire Upper Peninsula a rural area...so maybe that's why, but I dunno...my area just doesn't have an Auto Zone.  We have NAPA and Menards and Wal-Mart for that so there really isn't any need...so the closest one is about 90 miles away...oh well.  :angry:
rural areas are sort of wierd....
Yeah...although in the past 3 years we've gotten 3 new major stores (Kohl's, Target, Pier 1 Imports) and they upgraded our Wal-Mart to a "SuperCenter" so we're deffinitely climbing...but Wal-Mart still sucks because the parking lot is cramped and you have to walk all the way across the thing to the store because there aren't any close spots because people are parked there all day and the store's a mess.  <_<  So we just go to Target where my brother works and have trouble-free shopping with a 10% discount on everything!  :praise:  
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 11:54:05 AM
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QuoteYou could sand the rust and spot paint just those areas...
I'd need quite a bit of spot paint or touch up paint to cover all the rust...so I'll probably just get rid of the rust via sanding or dremel-ing to at least slow the deterioration somewhat...
after getting all the rust out, be sure to protect those places somehow or esle they'll rust again.
But with what...is there some sort of spray or invisible covering I could put on the areas to prevent it..?
dunno, do some reasearch on the net maybe?
I'll just try Menards or something...and if that doesn't work I'll do some research quick and maybe take a trip to the nearest AutoZone (90 miles away.. <_< )
wow. why is everythign so far away for you???
Well...I guess technically you could consider the entire Upper Peninsula a rural area...so maybe that's why, but I dunno...my area just doesn't have an Auto Zone.  We have NAPA and Menards and Wal-Mart for that so there really isn't any need...so the closest one is about 90 miles away...oh well.  :angry:
rural areas are sort of wierd....
Yeah...although in the past 3 years we've gotten 3 new major stores (Kohl's, Target, Pier 1 Imports) and they upgraded our Wal-Mart to a "SuperCenter" so we're deffinitely climbing...but Wal-Mart still sucks because the parking lot is cramped and you have to walk all the way across the thing to the store because there aren't any close spots because people are parked there all day and the store's a mess.  <_<  So we just go to Target where my brother works and have trouble-free shopping with a 10% discount on everything!  :praise:
:praise:  
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: Run Away on May 30, 2005, 01:08:56 PM
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QuoteIf it's just surface rust (no holes) then sand it down, then rattle can paint it.

If your brother will not let you do this to "his" car then at least have him let you apply some rust treatment (the stuff that stops the spreading so that it won't get any rustier by the time you have it).
Yeah...it's just surface rust, and a lot of it! lol   Spray paint it?!

I doubt he'd let me do that...but who knows.  I might have to wait until I have the car in order to do it...which by then there might be rust holes 'cause the kid never washes the thing...even in the winter.  <_<  :rolleyes:
Yup. With a good prep job, spray paint can actually look pretty nice. I don't mean spray painting the whole car, just the areas where you fixed the rust. Find the closest possible match to stock paint (take into account that it has probably fadded a bit) wash the surface really well, do it indoors if possible on a day when there is no wind and learn to spray paint correctly so there are no drips or puddles of paint and it'll hardly be noticeable. My car has been painted with a spray can, and I didn't even notice it untill after a bought it.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: SargeMonkey on June 04, 2005, 03:40:50 AM
79 civic 95k miles and needed to have the carb rebuilt = $150, I am picking it up sunday, it took me a week to clean out that silicon.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: footoflead on June 16, 2005, 06:43:03 PM
Quotemaybe put one of those clear plastic sheets that are transparent over the wheelwells, or put one of those plastic splashgaurds on the wheelwells.
Griot's Garage has these..look at the bottom of the page...check out the rest of the page...they have some cool stuff
Griots Garage (http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?L2=L2_1007&L1=L1_1000&L2=L2_1007&L1=L1_1000&Page=2)


.i think thats what you were talking about when you said clear plastic sheets
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on June 16, 2005, 07:28:24 PM
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Quotemaybe put one of those clear plastic sheets that are transparent over the wheelwells, or put one of those plastic splashgaurds on the wheelwells.
Griot's Garage has these..look at the bottom of the page...check out the rest of the page...they have some cool stuff
Griots Garage (http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?L2=L2_1007&L1=L1_1000&L2=L2_1007&L1=L1_1000&Page=2)


.i think thats what you were talking about when you said clear plastic sheets
Isn't it shiny and noticeable, though?  People will think I put packing tape on it!  :o  
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: TBR on June 16, 2005, 08:09:56 PM
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Quotemaybe put one of those clear plastic sheets that are transparent over the wheelwells, or put one of those plastic splashgaurds on the wheelwells.
Griot's Garage has these..look at the bottom of the page...check out the rest of the page...they have some cool stuff
Griots Garage (http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?L2=L2_1007&L1=L1_1000&L2=L2_1007&L1=L1_1000&Page=2)


.i think thats what you were talking about when you said clear plastic sheets
Isn't it shiny and noticeable, though?  People will think I put packing tape on it!  :o
Isn't that better than body panels that are composed of nothing but rust? ;) It probably won't even be noticable if you do a good job install it.  
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on June 16, 2005, 09:54:59 PM
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Quotemaybe put one of those clear plastic sheets that are transparent over the wheelwells, or put one of those plastic splashgaurds on the wheelwells.
Griot's Garage has these..look at the bottom of the page...check out the rest of the page...they have some cool stuff
Griots Garage (http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?L2=L2_1007&L1=L1_1000&L2=L2_1007&L1=L1_1000&Page=2)


.i think thats what you were talking about when you said clear plastic sheets
Isn't it shiny and noticeable, though?  People will think I put packing tape on it!  :o
Isn't that better than body panels that are composed of nothing but rust? ;) It probably won't even be noticable if you do a good job install it.
Maybe I'll try that.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: footoflead on June 17, 2005, 08:48:57 AM
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Quotemaybe put one of those clear plastic sheets that are transparent over the wheelwells, or put one of those plastic splashgaurds on the wheelwells.
Griot's Garage has these..look at the bottom of the page...check out the rest of the page...they have some cool stuff
Griots Garage (http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?L2=L2_1007&L1=L1_1000&L2=L2_1007&L1=L1_1000&Page=2)


.i think thats what you were talking about when you said clear plastic sheets
Isn't it shiny and noticeable, though?  People will think I put packing tape on it!  :o
Isn't that better than body panels that are composed of nothing but rust? ;) It probably won't even be noticable if you do a good job install it.
Maybe I'll try that.
you could always scuff it a little bit with sand paper before you put it on ...although that might make scratchs instead....if you get some....do a test piece first...who knows it might work....
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: giant_mtb on June 17, 2005, 09:32:30 AM
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Quotemaybe put one of those clear plastic sheets that are transparent over the wheelwells, or put one of those plastic splashgaurds on the wheelwells.
Griot's Garage has these..look at the bottom of the page...check out the rest of the page...they have some cool stuff
Griots Garage (http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?L2=L2_1007&L1=L1_1000&L2=L2_1007&L1=L1_1000&Page=2)


.i think thats what you were talking about when you said clear plastic sheets
Isn't it shiny and noticeable, though?  People will think I put packing tape on it!  :o
Isn't that better than body panels that are composed of nothing but rust? ;) It probably won't even be noticable if you do a good job install it.
Maybe I'll try that.
you could always scuff it a little bit with sand paper before you put it on ...although that might make scratchs instead....if you get some....do a test piece first...who knows it might work....
I'd probably sand or dremel all of the rust off, first to ensure that there would be less rust under the surface so that I don't have to worry about extreme rust problems.
Title: Is there any way to stop paint-peel?
Post by: footoflead on June 20, 2005, 09:19:01 AM
definitely the first step has to be rust removal...hopefully the panels havent rusted out