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Title: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on September 19, 2018, 11:49:28 PM
We have Mustang, Corvette and G whatever threads among others.

So, since I picked up a new one today, its a good time to start with this as well. Maybe in time some of you will see the true light and join.

Picked it up in the afternoon just before a large storm lol.

The pickup experience was of course very nice.

@Dealer....

(https://i.imgur.com/LlpEJ3oh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hLek939h.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9SDjTo7h.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DBc3uzVh.jpg)

Street parked 20 minutes later at an appointment (before the storm)....

(https://i.imgur.com/z8xV7ZPh.jpg)

I only drove it for a few kms today (about 8 total). Everything in the most comfortable settings all the time. The ride is quite ok, not too harsh at all - definitely softer than my 1M and E46  and harsher than the M5 - as expected. The missing center console made me fall a bit like an ass every time I got in the car because usually I support myself there. During driving I didn't notice it.

I haven't owned a modern DCT before so, to no one's surprise it feels to me amazingly good. I left it in D1 (the least agressive mode) and super comfortable. Of course I am used to the M5's SMG which is basically undriveable in auto mode. Car feels super solid and rigid which bodes well. Interior is super nice in looks and materials. Seats are perfect. Tech is ok - of course a little dated maybe but more than modern enough for me. The car is low but it cleared ok (with significant care) a good number of speed bumps that I drove on here in Mexico City.

Tomorrow I have a long highway drive home and will share some more. No pressing the car until break in of 2,000km is religiously completed so that's a limiting factor.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: mzziaz on September 20, 2018, 02:47:34 AM
Sweet car!
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: CALL_911 on September 20, 2018, 04:45:30 AM
Beautiful car and nothing but the very best.

But I gotta ask, is there really a benefit in getting rid of the auto climate control?
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: cawimmer430 on September 20, 2018, 05:51:40 AM
Very nice car. Congrats again!   :rockon:  :mrcool:
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: SJ_GTI on September 20, 2018, 06:13:14 AM
Very nice, congrats!
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on September 20, 2018, 06:18:50 AM
Beauty.  Love the white with black wheels.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on September 20, 2018, 06:49:07 AM
Quote from: CALL_911 on September 20, 2018, 04:45:30 AM
Beautiful car and nothing but the very best.

But I gotta ask, is there really a benefit in getting rid of the auto climate control?

I think that's ridiculous too. But maybe a little. In losing the center console it also loses the a/c vents for the rear seats that sit on it. But the difference in weight of the head unit I am sure is negligible.

Poor kids fortunately they're too little to know any better.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: r0tor on September 20, 2018, 06:56:18 AM
That's an amazing overall package... Im not sure though I would personally go above the comp package though and deal with the extra comprimises
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on September 20, 2018, 07:28:06 AM
Quote from: r0tor on September 20, 2018, 06:56:18 AM
That's an amazing overall package... Im not sure though I would personally go above the comp package though and deal with the extra comprimises

I only did it because of the killer deal we got that meant this was basically at no premium over a competition package. And of course because this is the "M fanboi" edition.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on September 20, 2018, 09:27:09 AM
I didn't realize it doesn't have the center console. Pics?

I love the white.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on September 20, 2018, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 20, 2018, 09:27:09 AM
I didn't realize it doesn't have the center console. Pics?

I love the white.
I was wondering about the centre console as well.  There's this...https://www.autoblog.com/2018/05/20/2018-bmw-m3-cs-first-drive-review/#slide-7333227 (https://www.autoblog.com/2018/05/20/2018-bmw-m3-cs-first-drive-review/#slide-7333227)

(https://i.postimg.cc/cL17GZLj/dims.jpg)
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on September 20, 2018, 02:28:52 PM
That's it exactly.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on September 20, 2018, 02:59:33 PM
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on September 20, 2018, 02:28:52 PM
That's it exactly.
What's the big knob for?
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 20, 2018, 03:13:54 PM
I never liked auto climate control.  Seemed fussy in my A4.  Preferred setting fan speed and vents myself.  Like in the summer, I liked to run the cold air through the defroster vents so I got more of a cool waft instead of a direct breeze from the dashboard vents.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: CALL_911 on September 20, 2018, 03:27:20 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 20, 2018, 03:13:54 PM
I never liked auto climate control.  Seemed fussy in my A4.  Preferred setting fan speed and vents myself.  Like in the summer, I liked to run the cold air through the defroster vents so I got more of a cool waft instead of a direct breeze from the dashboard vents.

Be that as it may, reason I ask is because its decontenting for no reason and for more $.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: r0tor on September 20, 2018, 03:58:40 PM
Lines of code weigh alot!
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on September 21, 2018, 07:58:17 AM
So I took a long highway drive home (250 miles) on mostly good highways. Undergoing break in so of course I didn't push it. Some initial impressions:

- The ride quality in comfort is much better than expected, even maybe a tiny bit floaty in some situations. Sport is absolutely tolerable on reasonable road surfaces. I think it actually rides better than a friend's comp on the 20's that I drove recently. Not night and day but noticeable.

- I didn't really miss the center console during the long drive but I found the extra thick steering wheel somewhat uncomfortable.

- The passing power is simply awesome. I can tell this will simply walk all my other cars - easily.

- Overall it is more of a "race car" experience than my other cars. Sorta like (within due proportions) the closest you can get to a 4 door GT3 "experience".

- Today I took my kid to school in it "Papá, ¡coche blanco de carreras!"  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: (that's the whole point of the 4 door). It was a bit cold and the car had a nasty "cricket" on the center console. I cranked up the stereo a bit and the power to sport+. Years ago I'd have gotten all wired up about a "noise" on my "new" car. Experience has taught me to crank up the stereo.

(https://i.imgur.com/Rh47FhUh.jpg)

Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 21, 2018, 08:37:12 AM
That's awesome.  Does he like it when dad mashes the throttle?
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on September 21, 2018, 10:14:09 AM
Lucky kid. 
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: r0tor on September 21, 2018, 10:17:54 AM
What a terrible father... You should be driving a 15 year old Buick to teach him about being responsible
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: cawimmer430 on September 22, 2018, 05:04:18 AM
Quote from: r0tor on September 21, 2018, 10:17:54 AM
What a terrible father... You should be driving a 15 year old Buick to teach him about being responsible

Or a CR-V!
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on April 09, 2019, 05:54:11 PM
Update on the cars.

All have exploded because BMW reliability. Me broke.

Not.


- The E60 M5 battery died a couple of weeks ago and gave me a scare. It simply lost all power on ignition. I had to hook up the battery tender to get the trunk open (barely). Battery didn't hold any charge. Fortunately that was it. Damage: $380.

- 1M nothing to report but it has been used very little

- E46 M3 lost the inside lining trim on the A & C pillars. I glued it back on the best way I could. It doesn't look perfect but I am not replacing those pillar linings (yet). It needs a radiator but I have been pushing that off. Pushing it on hot weather water temps creep up. So I don't push it in hot weather.

- M3 CS - On a long drive a small stone got lodged between the parking brake caliper and one rear brake disc. It made a terrible noise. Turns out this is common. Called my dealer SA friend and he said to reverse a little and then brake with the handbrake. Stone came loose, all is well, no damage. I completed the break in period a few months ago. I haven't tracked it, might take it this sunday. The performance envelope of this car is far above all my other cars. It's a savage crazy thing. It will break traction all the time in 1st and 2nd and ocassionally in 3rd. I am 99% sure it will outrun the GT4 on track at our altitude.

- X5 - Nothing to report other than scheduled (free) maintenance. The knobs on the rear A/C controls both came loose and got lost. It's a poor design they can get easily kicked by accident. X5 is now at 50K km almost.

. GT4 - mostly parked in Mexico City so almost no use

- MINI - Brake pads & discs replaced.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: 93JC on April 10, 2019, 10:46:59 AM
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on April 09, 2019, 05:54:11 PM
Update on the cars.

All have exploded because BMW reliability. Me broke.

TL;DR past this.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: Submariner on April 10, 2019, 10:55:40 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on September 20, 2018, 02:59:33 PM
What's the big knob for?

To distract from the one in the driver seat.  :lol:
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 10, 2019, 11:03:16 AM
Quote from: 93JC on April 10, 2019, 10:46:59 AM
TL;DR past this.

:lol:
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: SJ_GTI on April 10, 2019, 11:25:20 AM
Quote from: 93JC on April 10, 2019, 10:46:59 AM
TL;DR past this.

I had the exact same though when I read his post, but it seemed too obvious.  :lol:
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: Char on April 10, 2019, 02:01:43 PM
Super Jealous - really nice car!
And look, you have a proper oil temp gauge. 


(Seriously considers trading car for M2)
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on April 11, 2019, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: 93JC on April 10, 2019, 10:46:59 AM
TL;DR past this.

Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 10, 2019, 11:03:16 AM
:lol:

Quote from: SJ_GTI on April 10, 2019, 11:25:20 AM
I had the exact same though when I read his post, but it seemed too obvious.  :lol:

You didn't miss anything really.  :lol:
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on April 11, 2019, 04:11:00 PM
Quote from: Char on April 10, 2019, 02:01:43 PM
Super Jealous - really nice car!
And look, you have a proper oil temp gauge. 


(Seriously considers trading car for M2)

Thanks. We seem to be the only ones taking "crazy" chances with BMW reliability around here.

The new M2 Comp is excellentno doubt close to best-in-class. And an OG M2 is excellent value probably now that the comp is out.

Having said that, your car is probably the better all around car. Not as harsh as an ///M and pretty much as fast in 99.9% of real world situations. And it can be modded to outrun the M on track.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on April 14, 2019, 07:16:20 PM
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on April 11, 2019, 04:11:00 PM
Thanks. We seem to be the only ones taking "crazy" chances with BMW reliability around here.
Oh my god, let it go man.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: HurricaneSteve on April 15, 2019, 02:42:30 PM
To be fair, if I had access to 6 working vehicles I would buy an M3 yesterday. Maybe.

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 14, 2019, 07:16:20 PM
Oh my god, let it go man.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on April 15, 2019, 03:28:44 PM
I went to one of our track days at the F1 track yesterday. It had been a while, more than nine months since I'd been to one (because kids, living in Leon, etc). Of note:

A friend bought and brought two, yes two new GT3 RS Porsches. This one is the Weissach Edition, even more limited:

(https://i.imgur.com/baDnFZbh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/h6KUuwDh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KFUPP6Vh.jpg)

There were lots of cool cars but it's always like that and I've become used to it (I know how that sounds, w/e) but this mint Countach caught my eye:

(https://i.imgur.com/ssH8HH2h.jpg)






Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on April 15, 2019, 03:31:35 PM
I got to drive the GT4 back to back with a friend's M3 CS (identical to mine but blue). Mine stayed in Leon and hasn´t been tracked yet.

Long story short, The M3 CS is quite a bit faster than the GT4 on this track. About 1-2 sec/lap faster. I also liked the dynamics of the M3 better. The GT4 understeers a lot at the limit (I need to get around to adjusting the sway bars) in stock form. The M3 CS has much more neutral dynamics and is actually more fun to drive on track for me.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on April 15, 2019, 04:37:42 PM
What was the elevation? Porsches also have crazy long gearing
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on April 15, 2019, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 15, 2019, 04:37:42 PM
What was the elevation? Porsches also have crazy long gearing

Mexico City is at 7,300ft ASL. It's a huge handicap on N/A cars. And yes, the GT4's gearing is stupid long. But that's how it comes from the factory just as the M3 so the comparison is valid.

What most surprised me was that I really couldn't catch the M3 in the corners. There the cars were about even with the GT4 understeering beyond the limit and the M3 more neutral/oversteery. On the straights the M3 walks the GT4. Remember that the M3 CS comes on Cup 2 semislick tires identical to those on the GT4.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on April 15, 2019, 04:58:15 PM
Might be worth looking into the GT4's alignment. Does the GT4 have adjustable dampers or is that RS territory? I'd def be curious to see them go at it at sea level.
Title: Re: The ///M Car Thread
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on April 15, 2019, 05:22:18 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 15, 2019, 04:58:15 PM
Might be worth looking into the GT4's alignment. Does the GT4 have adjustable dampers or is that RS territory? I'd def be curious to see them go at it at sea level.

The GT4 has adjustable sway bars front and rear. I think it comes from the factory with both bars at medium. I have to soften the front or harden the rear (or both) that should help as a first step. The GT4 does have adjustable dampers with PASM and on track I run it on the sport (harder) setting.