Cadillac CT5

[2o6]

That greenhouse is irritating. The way the C-pillar is resolved is so incredibly cheap looking.

https://www.netcarshow.com/cadillac/2020-ct5/



This car directly replaces the CTS, and power comes either from a 2.0T, or a 3.0T. No electrtification or hybrid seemingly available.


It's like Cadillac isn't trying. WTF is going on at GM? Five years ago, they were on the ball about introducing cars that looked and performed good. Now they're releasing yet another ugly sedan that

1. Probably won't sell

2. Is likely mired in production and manufacturing issues and will be axed prolly 18 months from now

3. priced too damn high

https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-cadillac-ct5-is-your-very-turbocharged-cts-rep-1833369834

[SJ_GTI]

Has pricing been announced? I scrolled through your links and didn't see it...but might have missed it.

I think it looks good overall, but agree that the extra detail on the C-pillar doesn't work.

[giant_mtb]

Looks decent, but yeah, that C-pillar.

It's almost like it wants to be one of those sedan coupe things, but they really wanted to keep it a normal sedan and not a liftback, so they had to compromise.

[12,000 RPM]

I'm having deja vu as the discussion about this on TCL is robust

I agree with you 100% 2o6... IIRC Mark Reuss said Cadillac has no more chances. In many ways this is worse than the cars it replaced. The XT6 is also an embarassment going head to head with the Aviator. And the Navigator is a cut above the aging Escalade. Is anybody home?

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

This looks as good as some German sedans. And it also looks better than all sedans sold by Lincoln! Including the BLAND Continental! But I agree it won't sell unless GM has it priced below the competition.

[r0tor]

That C pillar is awful...

An unsuccessful sedan launch just greases the wheel to abandon cars all together and hop on the CUV/SUV profit gravytrain

[FoMoJo]

What is it?  It looks like one of the dumpy-assed Crosstour/Crossover things from Honda/BMW.

[BimmerM3]

What is it?  It looks like one of the dumpy-assed Crosstour/Crossover things from Honda/BMW.

Looks like it's replacing both the CTS and ATS, so I guess a mid-size sedan.

I kinda like it. Looks better than the current cars, IMO.

I think more cars are going to have that rear shape in the name of fuel economy. It's not the most flattering thing in the world, but I think it's done better here than in most other cars.

[FoMoJo]

Looks like it's replacing both the CTS and ATS, so I guess a mid-size sedan.

I kinda like it. Looks better than the current cars, IMO.

I think more cars are going to have that rear shape in the name of fuel economy. It's not the most flattering thing in the world, but I think it's done better here than in most other cars.

I dunno...

[CaminoRacer]

Looks pretty good to me

[BimmerM3]

I dunno...

Meh, it's fine. I'm not gonna go out and buy one just for the looks, but I also wouldn't avoid getting one for that reason.

But in general, I'm pretty neutral on most modern cars' designs. There aren't many vehicles that I have strong opinions about purely based on looks.

[12,000 RPM]

The shape isn't that bad, just that C-pillar

[MX793]

The profile kind of reminds me of the last Dodge Avenger...

[Submariner]

The profile kind of reminds me of the last Dodge Avenger...

Well, when you're the Standard of the World...

[cawimmer430]

The end of the C-pillar just ruins the flow of the otherwise pleasing design.

The front and interior are very nice.

[CaminoRacer]

The profile kind of reminds me of the last Dodge Avenger...

I'm not seeing it

[2o6]

I'm not seeing it

Yeah, same

[FoMoJo]

I'm not seeing it

Well it's, sorta the same colour .

[SJ_GTI]

Well it's, sorta the same colour .

+1

They also both have wheels and windows. They are practically the same car!

[CaminoRacer]

They're not even facing the same way. Totally different

I do think the C-pillar looks a bit Korean. I can't find an exact car that it reminds me of, though.

[93JC]

The shape isn't that bad, just that C-pillar

What's so heinous to you about the C-pillar? I don't really care for Cadillacs design language, but the little design flourish on the C-pillar seems pretty innocuous to me.

[CaminoRacer]

I bet the car will look fantastic in Cadillac's metallic black paint on a sunny day. I saw a black ATS the other day and it was a stunner.

[giant_mtb]

One of my college roommates worked on this thing. I change my mind, it looks fantastic.

[2o6]

What's so heinous to you about the C-pillar? I don't really care for Cadillacs design language, but the little design flourish on the C-pillar seems pretty innocuous to me.

That large piece of black shiny plastic masquerading as a window. It looks cheap.

[93JC]

Whatevs.

[thewizard16]

The whole roofline just seems weird. The front and rear are pretty sharp but that side profile is just
a bit awkward looking.

[93JC]

I agree, it looks kind of bulbous. Actually reminds me a lot of the proportions of the Tesla Model 3.

[2o6]

The proportions are fine.


It's lliterally that shiny piece of black plastic that ruins the design.

1. It's huge

2. It looks cheap and amateurish; a comparable BMW, MB, Audi, or Lexus won't resolve the greenhouse in a way that's not so *cheap* looking. The problem isn't the chrome flourish, it's the piece of plastic inside it. The chrome flourish arguably makes it more obvious that a very large corner was cut, designwise.

The rest of the car is *fine* although I'd also argue the way the trunk aperture is resolved is also amateurish and cheap looking, but I'd rather take that over that big glossy triangle.

[2o6]

Also, remember this is basically a production version of the Escala concept.

[MrH]

Yeah, the c-pillar shape is pretty terrible.  It's the same thing my Accord has, which I don't like.  The difference is, the Accord at least has a window there.  A piece of black plastic looks so tacky.