Quote from: RomanChariot on May 02, 2024, 09:06:20 AMBooster seats are required up to age 8. The NHTSA recommends children up to age 12 be in a booster seat but they haven't been able to make a requirement yet.

I'm just waiting for a booster seat to be required for 16 year olds with their driving permit.

Quote from: GoCougs on May 02, 2024, 10:40:53 AMShareholders know that No Musk = Tesla market cap gets in line with other automakers (= 99% stock price collapse), and that's best case.

An impossible situation at this point.

Quote from: SJ_GTI on May 02, 2024, 10:18:32 AMI wouldn't expect Tesla shareholders to do anything rational. They are about to award 10% of their current stock holdings to Elon. An amount that is more than all the profit the company has made in its existence to date.

Logically the second they pass such a package the value of each Tesla stock should drop proportional to the amount they just awarded him, but I suspect it won't, which shows how irrational it is.

Shareholders know that No Musk = Tesla market cap gets in line with other automakers (= 99% stock price collapse), and that's best case.

Quote from: MrH on May 02, 2024, 08:35:08 AMFact check: They do not, in fact, have a lead over anybody.  Waymo has done millions of miles of autonomous driving.  Tesla has done zero.

Tesla has the lead in the perception of autonomous driving.

Waymo has millions of miles of mapped driving, and after ~10 years it still requires mapping and vehicles that are prohibitively expensive. TBF, that as close it'll get, so in that Waymo is Doing it Right.

I wouldn't expect Tesla shareholders to do anything rational. They are about to award 10% of their current stock holdings to Elon. An amount that is more than all the profit the company has made in its existence to date.

Logically the second they pass such a package the value of each Tesla stock should drop proportional to the amount they just awarded him, but I suspect it won't, which shows how irrational it is.

Something like this could be an option if they are practical and not really fussy about appearances...

Passenger Van

Just remove the last row of seating and it would be an 8 passenger van with loads of cargo space.

Quote from: MrH on May 02, 2024, 08:35:08 AMFact check: They do not, in fact, have a lead over anybody.  Waymo has done millions of miles of autonomous driving.  Tesla has done zero.

OK.  Perhaps Musk thinks he can beat Waymo because a Waymo technology equipped car costs a whole lot more than a Tesla car with FSD.  If he can get his FSD to be truly driverless, as a robotaxi he would be able to signficantly undercut Waymo in price for a ride. 

 

Quote from: MrH on May 02, 2024, 08:32:33 AMHow or why would GM or Ford buy Tesla?  GM and Ford both have a market cap around $50B.  Tesla is $550B+.  It's over ten times the valuation of GM or Ford.  Never mind the endless liability nightmares involved with "FSD" with multiple deaths and countless accidents.

Only chance for an acquisition is after bankruptcy.

Well yeah, but Tesla's real market cap for their manufacturing capabilities and car sales is really much lower than that. $550B is the fake number based on the FSD & robotaxi illusions.

I wouldn't envision a sale happening until things start to crash back down the reality anyway, either bankruptcy or investors finally opening their eyes to the ridiculous valuation.

Quote from: Submariner2 on May 01, 2024, 09:28:22 PMBooster seats are pretty common up until 6 or so.

Booster seats are required up to age 8. The NHTSA recommends children up to age 12 be in a booster seat but they haven't been able to make a requirement yet.