I've got a 2017 Subaru Crosstrek with 5 speed MT. 60 thousand miles. I drive it pretty hard frequently flooring the accelerator. The car is pretty underpowered so flooring the gas pedal and shifting aggressively is fun. Today the transmission is all messed up. Car in 5th gear and when I accelerate, the tach redlines. Burning smell. Got off the highway and turned off the car and restarted it. Very slow. Despite shifting gears, the tach is redlining, and the car is accelerating very slow.
Do I need new transmission? Man this sucks.
I take it you don't have any extended warranty? Check your owners manual and see if the car has a power train warranty.
The trans could just be low on fluid. Run over anything lately? Big pool of red oil under the car?
Your clutch is toast. Just get it replaced and you'll be good to go.
U needz clutch
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 03, 2019, 08:51:06 PM
Your clutch is gone.
LOL, manual trans...that's what I get for not reading MT. Ya, it's the clutch. Wear item. Probably not covered even if you have a warranty.
Thanks fellas. My car is out of car manufacturer warranty based on mileage but the dealership that I bought it from states that they give a lifetime limited warranty on engine, transmission, and powertrain.
I'm at work. I have to drive back 50 miles to get home. Will I royally mess things up if I do? I really don't want to get the car towed. The dealership I bought it from is at least 40 miles away.
Quote from: veeman on April 03, 2019, 09:01:36 PM
Thanks fellas. My car is out of car manufacturer warranty based on mileage but the dealership that I bought it from states that they give a lifetime limited warranty on engine, transmission, and powertrain.
I'm at work. I have to drive back 50 miles to get home. Will I royally mess things up if I do? I really don't want to get the car towed. The dealership I bought it from is at least 40 miles away.
It might not make it.
Well I'll tell you tomorrow morning if I made it :)
There's nothing more to mess up if you do though.
Actually that's great to know. Thanks!
Drive slow, but rev high... I mean use a lower gear than usual.
OK so I won't put it in 5th. Hate to be stuck on the highway at 2:00 am but, gotta do what I gotta do. Living dangerously. At least I probably won't get raped.
Lower gears will reduce the torque on the clutch, so hopefully it won't all turn into smoke. Try to keep it hooked up - let off the throttle occasionally to make sure it isn't slipping.
Whew. Made it home. Kept it in 4th gear on the highway. Never realized there were that many "hills" on my daily commute. Every hill where the engine strained made me wince. Thanks for the advice!
Now I gotta see in the morning what the dealership will charge me for a new clutch. The Crosstrek is weird because Subaru (not the dealership but Subaru itself) recommends changing the spark plugs at 60,000 miles according to the service manual. That's a lot earlier than most cars.
If nothing is covered under warranty, I'll have to see what local independent mechanics will charge if the dealership price seems very high.
A clutch is most likely not covered under warranty as the longevity usually is a function of how it's used.
Have you had the car since new?
Quote from: mzziaz on April 04, 2019, 02:55:39 AM
A clutch is most likely not covered under warranty as the longevity usually is a function of how it's used.
Have you had the car since new?
Yeah, I bought it new. The car is underpowered and I drive it hard so I'm not pissed the clutch failed at 60
thousand miles. Let's see what the dealer says regarding when I can limp the car to them and how much the cost for replacement will be.
Regularly applying a lot of throttle won't cause clutch wear. Even aggressive shifting shouldn't cause much clutch wear. Slipping the clutch a lot (keeping the pedal partially depressed while driving, not pushing the clutch all the way in while stopped) will wear a clutch out.
Yeah... I dunno about my manual shifting skill level. Seriously. I dunno. I've regularly driven a manual for 5 years and when I turned in my Beetle for dieselgate at 75 thousand miles, the clutch was fine. Getting through my snow/ice covered driveway for two winters I probably didn't let off the clutch as soon as I should but I rarely smelled burning. Pretty routinely I rev hard from 1st through 5th gears, ratcheting the shift hard. The car is so underpowered you can do that without ever losing grip on dry ground or having any loss of control.
Quote from: veeman on April 04, 2019, 08:15:50 AM
Yeah... I dunno about my manual shifting skill level. Seriously. I dunno. I've regularly driven a manual for 5 years and when I turned in my Beetle for dieselgate at 75 thousand miles, the clutch was fine. Getting through my snow/ice covered driveway for two winters I probably didn't let off the clutch as soon as I should but I rarely smelled burning. Pretty routinely I rev hard from 1st through 5th gears, ratcheting the shift hard. The car is so underpowered you can do that without ever losing grip on dry ground or having any loss of control.
Chances are that the clutch just wore out through normal usage unless you ride the clutch a lot on hills, etc. Also, when revving hard, do you slowly engage the clutch or just let it pop? Slowly engaging while flooring it in any gear is likely to cause more wear.
Kind of a pricey item on a Subaru, for some reason.
I don't ride the clutch at all on hills. I usually just shift to neutral and use the brakes as needed. It's not San Francisco hilly where I live so I don't wear out the brakes doing that either.
I'm pretty sure I don't slowly engage the clutch when shifting.
Let's see what the dealer says. They said to drop it off today. Unfortunately no free loaner with Subaru. I have the backup Camry so not a big deal.
Either you rode it too much while taking off from a start, or it might have been out of adjustment. Or Subaru specced a clutch that's too small or slick.
Probably just slips it a lot to get going. Crosstrek is so unpowered it's understandable.
Yikes. Dealer called after looking at car and said 4 things need to be replaced. Clutch, flywheel, some sort of plate, and something else. I think he said torsion something. $2175 plus tax. For kicks I asked him to have Sales take a look at the car and see what they would give me for it.
Pressure plate and throwout bearing?
Quote from: veeman on April 04, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Yikes. Dealer called after looking at car and said 4 things need to be replaced. Clutch, flywheel, some sort of plate, and something else. I think he said torsion something. $2175 plus tax. For kicks I asked him to have Sales take a look at the car and see what they would give me for it.
Clutch, flywheel, pressure plate, maybe the pilot bearing. This is an $800 job, parts and labor. Torsion what now?
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 04, 2019, 11:22:18 AM
Pressure plate and throwout bearing?
Don't throw out the bearing, he needs that.
I mean yeah, replace throwout bearing.
The last thing he said I didn't fully catch on the phone. When Sales calls back with a price I'll ask to speak with the service guy again and have him tell me again what needs to be replaced. Then I'll call a local shop I've had good experience with to see what they would charge me to replace those things.
I texted the service guy for what needs to be replaced. He said clutch, flywheel, pressure plate, and release bearing.
Quote from: veeman on April 04, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Yikes. Dealer called after looking at car and said 4 things need to be replaced. Clutch, flywheel, some sort of plate, and something else. I think he said torsion something. $2175 plus tax. For kicks I asked him to have Sales take a look at the car and see what they would give me for it.
According to
this (https://repairpal.com/estimator/subaru/xv+crosstrek/clutch-replacement-cost), the average cost is
The average cost for a Subaru XV Crosstrek clutch replacement is between $1,204 and $1,384. Labor costs are estimated between $686 and $866 while parts are priced at $518. Estimate does not include taxes and fees. Apparently, clutches typically last about 60,000 miles.
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 04, 2019, 12:39:39 PM
According to this (https://repairpal.com/estimator/subaru/xv+crosstrek/clutch-replacement-cost), the average cost is The average cost for a Subaru XV Crosstrek clutch replacement is between $1,204 and $1,384. Labor costs are estimated between $686 and $866 while parts are priced at $518. Estimate does not include taxes and fees.
Doesn't include flywheel, which is being replaced because of heat damage.
Quote from: shp4man on April 04, 2019, 12:41:52 PM
Doesn't include flywheel, which is being replaced because of heat damage.
I think I've always replaced everything any time I change the clutch just because then I know it's all new & good.
If 60k is common on these cars, Subaru definitely specced a wimpy clutch.
Usually they can be resurfaced, but they warp and crack from excess heat.
So while still waiting for Sales to get back to me, I called the local mechanic I've used a bunch of times in the past. This local shop has always been good to me. They said that the dealership is giving me a fair price ($2175 plus tax). I gave him the VIN of my car and told him what the dealership said needed to be replaced (clutch, flywheel, pressure plate, and release bearing). He said that'll take about 10 hrs of labor and he can come in maybe $150 cheaper but that's about it.
If Sales doesn't come with a very good offer I'll have to bite the bullet and take the hit. Although Subies are flying off the shelves, this is a manual transmission (not many people buy Subarus with a manual transmission outside of the WRX/STi or BRZ) and one with a replaced clutch and so I'm thinking they'll lowball me.
10 hours??? Oh man, do they have to drop the subframe to access it all?
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 04, 2019, 12:39:39 PM
According to this (https://repairpal.com/estimator/subaru/xv+crosstrek/clutch-replacement-cost), the average cost is The average cost for a Subaru XV Crosstrek clutch replacement is between $1,204 and $1,384. Labor costs are estimated between $686 and $866 while parts are priced at $518. Estimate does not include taxes and fees.
Apparently, clutches typically last about 60,000 miles.
Like I said, $800. Parts are actually cost about $250, and I would only charge $250 in labor, making it $500 at my shop.
Quote from: veeman on April 04, 2019, 01:08:59 PM
So while still waiting for Sales to get back to me, I called the local mechanic I've used a bunch of times in the past. This local shop has always been good to me. They said that the dealership is giving me a fair price ($2175 plus tax). I gave him the VIN of my car and told him what the dealership said needed to be replaced (clutch, flywheel, pressure plate, and release bearing). He said that'll take about 10 hrs of labor and he can come in maybe $150 cheaper but that's about it.
If Sales doesn't come with a very good offer I'll have to bite the bullet and take the hit. Although Subies are flying off the shelves, this is a manual transmission (not many people buy Subarus with a manual transmission outside of the WRX/STi or BRZ) and one with a replaced clutch and so I'm thinking they'll lowball me.
I think you should call another indy shop. That is too high. The $1300-ish range that FoMoJo listed is realistic for a high priced shop in a high cost of living area. $2000 is insane.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 04, 2019, 04:08:22 PM
Like I said, $800. Parts are actually cost about $250, and I would only charge $250 in labor, making it $500 at my shop.
You need to pay yourself better.
Are clutches on AWD vehicles more complicated to replace?
Quote from: HurricaneSteve on April 04, 2019, 04:21:43 PM
Are clutches on AWD vehicles more complicated to replace?
Sometimes?
The clutch itself isn't any more complicated, but sometimes disconnecting the trans is made more complicated.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 04, 2019, 04:17:41 PM
You need to pay yourself better.
I don't have any overhead.
Quote from: HurricaneSteve on April 04, 2019, 04:21:43 PM
Are clutches on AWD vehicles more complicated to replace?
This job is about like a FWD clutch, plus 15 minites to remove the rear driveshaft and drink some covovfee.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 04, 2019, 01:11:47 PM
10 hours??? Oh man, do they have to drop the subframe to access it all?
There are like 8 shafts coming out of that transmission... I'm not surprised
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 04, 2019, 05:47:41 PM
There are like 8 shafts coming out of that transmission... I'm not surprised
I disagree. It is a pretty ...
standard transmission.
https://www.ebay.com/i/323488736718?chn=ps&ul_ref=
Makes sense. I know oil changes are laughably easy on most Subarus but drivetrain components are more time consuming to replace.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 04, 2019, 04:37:09 PM
Sometimes?
The clutch itself isn't any more complicated, but sometimes disconnecting the trans is made more complicated.
Still waiting for the Sales guy to tell me how much they would give me for the car. I'm
surprised they haven't told me yet.
Quote from: veeman on April 05, 2019, 11:25:48 AM
Still waiting for the Sales guy to tell me how much they would give me for the car. I'm
surprised they haven't told me yet.
Take the going dealer auction price and subtract $2 grand for the wasted clutch....
Quote from: MX793 on April 05, 2019, 12:21:57 PM
Take the going dealer auction price and subtract $2 grand for the wasted clutch....
Probably more.
This is a bad idea. Fix the car.
2k for a dealer replacement clutch is actually a deal.
You can probably rock auto the clutch and pressure plate.
But for a dealer job? That's great.
Nick's price seems pretty standard; if a bit more than I personally would pay. These FWD designs aren't super complicated, and even if you need to drop the subframe, dropping the subframe isn't that hard.
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EDIT: Rockauto doesn't look like it sells replacement clutch disks or entire clutch kits for the Crosstrek; maybe because the car is so new.
Quote from: MX793 on April 05, 2019, 12:21:57 PM
Take the going dealer auction price and subtract $2 grand for the wasted clutch....
Quote from: 2o6 on April 05, 2019, 01:26:15 PM
Probably more.
This is a bad idea. Fix the car.
Still no word. I'm just waiting to hear what they tell me. I won't do it unless the price is decent, which I'm pretty sure it won't be. Nevertheless I did do some Autotrader searches for New Base Civic and Mustang 4 banger manual transmission cars :lol:
Most likely I'll tell them to fix it. Earliest parts can come in is Wednesday the Servie guy initially told me anyways.
Yeah, in this instance I'd bite the bullet and have the dealer do the work. Peace of mind and you retain its value. Keep all receipts.
So this morning they finally got back to me regarding how much they would give me for my car right now. So I still owe 10 thousand on it. They would give me $9500 for it. KBB puts the value of my car as a trade in as between 12 thousand and 13.5 thousand (keep in mind the cost for me to get them to fix my clutch is slightly over $2000. So I don't think they're low balling me). Now if I buy a new 2019 manual trans Crosstrek (they have two in stock) from them they would give me $10000 for my car (only $500 more).
The smart thing for me to do is have them fix it and not be a slave to a perpetual car payment. But I have an additional $1200 coming up to replace real soon on the car. The spark plugs (they need to be replaced at 60 thousand miles) and new tires (mine are original). Plus I'm excited about potentially getting a new car.
I could get the car fixed and sell it on my own on Autotrader. I've done that before and helped my brother in law do that on his car several years ago. It's a pain in the ass though and I'm not sure how sought after my car would be (probably not).
I'll decide by tomorrow. Honestly I'm not sure what I'll do.
Quote from: veeman on April 09, 2019, 08:24:07 AM
So this morning they finally got back to me regarding how much they would give me for my car right now. So I still owe 10 thousand on it. They would give me $9500 for it. KBB puts the value of my car as a trade in as between 12 thousand and 13.5 thousand (keep in mind the cost for me to get them to fix my clutch is slightly over $2000. So I don’t think they’re low balling me). Now if I buy a new 2019 manual trans Crosstrek (they have two in stock) from them they would give me $10000 for my car (only $500 more).
The smart thing for me to do is have them fix it and not be a slave to a perpetual car payment. But I have an additional $1200 coming up to replace real soon on the car. The spark plugs (they need to be replaced at 60 thousand miles) and new tires (mine are original). Plus I’m excited about potentially getting a new car.
I could get the car fixed and sell it on my own on Autotrader. I’ve done that before and helped my brother in law do that on his car several years ago. It’s a pain in the ass though and I’m not sure how sought after my car would be (probably not).
I’ll decide by tomorrow. Honestly I’m not sure what I’ll do.
A conundrum for sure. The easy advice is to get it fixed, but your personal financial situation must be taken into account. Only you know how to proceed here.
Quote from: veeman on April 09, 2019, 08:24:07 AM
So this morning they finally got back to me regarding how much they would give me for my car right now. So I still owe 10 thousand on it. They would give me $9500 for it. KBB puts the value of my car as a trade in as between 12 thousand and 13.5 thousand (keep in mind the cost for me to get them to fix my clutch is slightly over $2000. So I don't think they're low balling me). Now if I buy a new 2019 manual trans Crosstrek (they have two in stock) from them they would give me $10000 for my car (only $500 more).
The smart thing for me to do is have them fix it and not be a slave to a perpetual car payment. But I have an additional $1200 coming up to replace real soon on the car. The spark plugs (they need to be replaced at 60 thousand miles) and new tires (mine are original). Plus I'm excited about potentially getting a new car.
I could get the car fixed and sell it on my own on Autotrader. I've done that before and helped my brother in law do that on his car several years ago. It's a pain in the ass though and I'm not sure how sought after my car would be (probably not).
I'll decide by tomorrow. Honestly I'm not sure what I'll do.
I dunno... sounds like a low ball to me. $9.5k + 2k = $11.5k, so less than KBB, and I wouldn't give them the full $2k credit since most cars at that mileage aren't going to have a brand spankin' new clutch. Spark plugs and tires are not $1200.
You're essentially talking about spending like $12k (well, let's say $9k after clutch/spark plugs/tires) to get a slightly newer version of the same car. You'll get an extra gear, 4 more lb-ft of torques, and an updated (but still not awesome) infotainment.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on April 09, 2019, 09:52:54 AM
I dunno... sounds like a low ball to me. $9.5k + 2k = $11.5k, so less than KBB, and I wouldn't give them the full $2k credit since most cars at that mileage aren't going to have a brand spankin' new clutch. Spark plugs and tires are not $1200.
You're essentially talking about spending like $12k (well, let's say $9k after clutch/spark plugs/tires) to get a slightly newer version of the same car. You'll get an extra gear, 4 more lb-ft of torques, and an updated (but still not awesome) infotainment.
Yeah it's kinda low ball but not super low ball. Tires and spark plugs is at least $1000, probably more. I don't think I'll get a new Crosstrek. If I did, I would have more leverage and could probably get another $500 out of them. I'm leaning towards wussing out and handing them $500 to take it off my hands. It's so damn easy to do that and start fresh. Or I could be smart and have them fix it. I need to sleep on it.
Quote from: veeman on April 09, 2019, 10:03:23 AM
Yeah it's kinda low ball but not super low ball. Tires and spark plugs is at least $1000, probably more. I don't think I'll get a new Crosstrek. If I did, I would have more leverage and could probably get another $500 out of them. I'm leaning towards wussing out and handing them $500 to take it off my hands. It's so damn easy to do that and start fresh. Or I could be smart and have them fix it. I need to sleep on it.
Spark plugs are literally <$50 for the most expensive option on Rock Auto. There are plenty of good options for tires on Tire Rack that are ~$600 installed.
The tires I want are expensive (Michelin CrossClimate). I'm just prioritizing laziness and greed for a new car over getting it fixed.
If I get it fixed, I'm not going to trade it in for a new car. The car will be fine until I fry the clutch again in another two and a half years. Plus I like it. Don't love it, but definitely like it. 8 out of 10 on a 10 point scale. It's loud on the highway and the gas mileage should be better.
Trading up to the same car doesn't seem worth it. You could fry that clutch in the same amount of time too.
Fix & keep. Subarus hold their value well so when it's time for you to move on up you will have gotten your use out of it and still get a good chunk of change back.
Quote from: veeman on April 09, 2019, 10:32:42 AM
The tires I want are expensive (Michelin CrossClimate).
Well, your money so do what you want. But you could spend like 60% of the money to get tires that are 95% as good.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on April 09, 2019, 10:13:59 AM
Spark plugs are literally <$50 for the most expensive option on Rock Auto. There are plenty of good options for tires on Tire Rack that are ~$600 installed.
Spark plugs themselves are cheap, but they aren't always a piece of cake to replace on modern vehicles (I dunno what the Crosstrek's engine situation is like).
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 09, 2019, 04:20:42 PM
Spark plugs themselves are cheap, but they aren't always a piece of cake to replace on modern vehicles (I dunno what the Crosstrek's engine situation is like).
Last time I looked under the hood of a modern Subie, spark plug access didn't look all that convenient.
It's that great new car smell. I guess. Do Subies have new car smell?
Since they would be replacing the clutch, etc I would have them replace the spark plugs now so they shouldn't charge me a lot of extra labor for that (I would think).
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 09, 2019, 04:20:42 PM
Spark plugs themselves are cheap, but they aren't always a piece of cake to replace on modern vehicles (I dunno what the Crosstrek's engine situation is like).
Well, that's fair. I could see them being somewhere hard to get on a boxer engine.
Not sure about the newer ones, but on the old 911 Turbo, it was an engine drop.
From what I see in the pictures, I think the airbox and a few other things might need to be moved out of the way.
I stopped by the service dept this morning and told them to fix the clutch. In the end I felt the car has too few miles (60,000) for me to chuck it. It'll be nice to have it paid off in less than 2 years. $2150 plus tax. They're going to replace spark plugs too ($350). They said there is no less labor involved because they're unrelated (clutch and spark plugs) and in two totally different areas of the engine bay. I don't know if they're lying or not. The head service manager (the one who sits in the enclosed glass office looking over his minions at the front desks) said he'd give me a discount on the spark plugs though.
Yesterday evening I was mentally ready to drive 75 miles out to New Jersey where I saw a few new 4 cylinder manual transmission Mustangs listed for 25 or 26 thousand dollars. Will have to wait.
When Ford was still selling the Mustang with the V-6 as its base engine, they could be had for 21 or 22K on sale. Kinda regret not picking up one when I could have but I'm positive that trying to find parking for it would have been a constant PITA. Glad you got your car fixed though.
Quote from: veeman on April 10, 2019, 07:19:37 AM
I stopped by the service dept this morning and told them to fix the clutch. In the end I felt the car has too few miles (60,000) for me to chuck it. It'll be nice to have it paid off in less than 2 years. $2150 plus tax. They're going to replace spark plugs too ($350). They said there is no less labor involved because they're unrelated (clutch and spark plugs) and in two totally different areas of the engine bay. I don't know if they're lying or not. The head service manager (the one who sits in the enclosed glass office looking over his minions at the front desks) said he'd give me a discount on the spark plugs though.
Yesterday evening I was mentally ready to drive 75 miles out to New Jersey where I saw a few new 4 cylinder manual transmission Mustangs listed for 25 or 26 thousand dollars. Will have to wait.
Quote from: HurricaneSteve on May 27, 2019, 11:41:55 AM
When Ford was still selling the Mustang with the V-6 as its base engine, they could be had for 21 or 22K on sale. Kinda regret not picking up one when I could have but I'm positive that trying to find parking for it would have been a constant PITA. Glad you got your car fixed though.
Hey thanks. The fixed Subie drives great and I'm glad I did it rather than throwing away what I had already invested in it.
That's awesome to hear. It sucks having to repair what's essentially a new car so soon but I think you did the right thing.
Quote from: veeman on May 27, 2019, 01:25:43 PM
Hey thanks. The fixed Subie drives great and I'm glad I did it rather than throwing away what I had already invested in it.
LOL So I'd say keep it, you can bank money later, but we spent $2k to drop a used engine into my wife's single-owner 2005 Impreza back in 2016. It still has barely 100k miles on it.
I peruse Craigslist all the time and see cars I'd "want" but it's SOOOOOOOO nice not having a single penny of debt to anyone. We have money in the bank now for car replacement down the road, but might be moving again in 2020. After dust settles down, we'll see.
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As far as the clutch going out- my dad bought an old Datsun B210 4spd manual from my uncle way back when. He said the clutch was slipping a little on hills. Well we bought it in Utah and drove it to Wyoming. Probably 2000 ft uphill over 50miles. He had to downshift when it was slipping then downshift again- nothing like riding with your mom in the breakdown lane of the 75mph freeway with the flashers on at 20mph behind your dad in the Datsun doing the same. (They figured the Taurus wagon would take a rear impact better, we kids were all buckled in the front and middle rows). Took FOREVER to get home that night LOL.
Quote from: veeman on May 27, 2019, 01:25:43 PM
Hey thanks. The fixed Subie drives great and I'm glad I did it rather than throwing away what I had already invested in it.
Awesome!
Clutches are wear-out items.
1- Don't EVER keep your foot above the clutch, even if you know you're going to shift again in 2 seconds. During that time you might accidentally be pressing down on the clutch, wearing it out. Move the foot off the clutch unless you're shifting gears.
2- Brakes are cheaper than clutches. Put it in neutral and clutch out to brake at stops. If you need to accelerate again, match correct gear to speed, use gas to get engine up to the right rotations, then clutch and shift.
3- Don't let n00bs learn to drive stick on your car. Get a rental. :lol:
I replaced the clutch in my SHO myself but it was ugly, took me 3x 8hr days. Every car is different, a seasoned mechanic on that car can do it cheaper. Look for an import shop for future repairs?..
I showed one person how to drive stick on my A4. Never again. Granted, I learned on it, too, but I at least knew what was going on mechancally so I was fine in a few days. This girl, though...ugh. :lol:
Teaching my current wife to drive a stick shift was one of the most horrible experiences I've ever had in a car; and this was after she said she knew how to drive a 'standard'. She thought it had something to do with the steering wheel. I know it doesn't make any sense. :nutty:
I'm glad I had installed the clutch in my car before I learned how to drive it. It definitely helps to know what the pedal is actually doing and why it's doing that
Yeah I'd love to take a manual transmission driving instruction course, to get some fine tuning of my skills, but never looked into it. Since my new clutch I'm definitely more cognizant of getting my foot of the clutch as much as possible. Can't really do that in all situations. Like reversing slightly uphill. My foot has to be on the clutch and the other foot on the gas pedal. Is that wearing it out? Probably but oh well. For work I drive real odd hours especially when I moonlight so I'm often driving at 2 or 3 am. It's here sometimes when I'm driving on dark back country roads near where I live that I have the most fun. The roads are deserted and I might have gotten lazy in the past about completely disengaging the clutch as I race through the gears, flooring the gas pedal each time, in the underpowered Subie. I also know in the winter when I haven't had a chance yet to plow the driveway, I find it hard to drive through the foot of snow completely off the clutch.
What I'm trying to work on is smoothly blipping the throttle when downshifting on the highway to make a pass. I don't have it as a natural thing to do yet.
Nobody really lets the clutch out when reversing, anyway.
The clutch is designed to be slipped, don't beat yourself up too much over the everday circumstances when you need to stay on it a bit.
Reversing I give it some gas and let the clutch out enough to get moving the speed I want then push pedal back in, and repeat. I never really ride the clutch in reverse...
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on June 07, 2019, 08:10:16 PM
Reversing I give it some gas and let the clutch out enough to get moving the speed I want then push pedal back in, and repeat. I never really ride the clutch in reverse...
That's worse.
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 07, 2019, 08:21:02 PM
That's worse.
Nah, I'm talking about not riding it. You really can't just let the clutch all the way and leave it out for most reversing. I should have said though that when I reverse in stick shift it's not a gentle release, I light gas and engage the clutch all the way then push the pedal back in quickly once car is moving fast enough. Goal is to minimize slipping.
Yeah I very rarely fully engage the clutch in reverse.
Based on a very quick Google search, clutches on these cars just wear out quickly. You might not even be doing anything wrong, Veeman.
Yeah it seems like Subaru either specced a wimpy clutch or a fast-wearing material.
Too much horsepower