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Title: REAL ID
Post by: dazzleman on February 27, 2016, 12:57:53 PM
Not sure if any of you have heard of this, but there is this program called REAL ID connected with driver's license renewals.  It will be necessary to have this REAL ID endorsement by 2017 in order to use a license as identification to board a flight.

Does anybody know what the requirements are, and what documentation is necessary, to upgrade a regular license to a REAL ID?  I was looking at the Connecticut DMV website and it never seems to say.  I have to renew my license soon and don't want to make more than one trip.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: Rupert on February 27, 2016, 01:10:53 PM
I think most states are already compliant, and those that aren't will have to be compliant on all of their state-issued IDs by that time.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: dazzleman on February 27, 2016, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: Rupert on February 27, 2016, 01:10:53 PM
I think most states are already compliant, and those that aren't will have to be compliant on all of their state-issued IDs by that time.

Do you know what documentation will be necessary at the time of renewal to upgrade from a regular license to a Real ID?  The website says there is an option to keep a regular license, but that it won't be valid ID for a flight after a certain point in time.  The site never seems to say what is actually required in terms of documentation to get the upgrade.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: Rich on February 27, 2016, 01:32:43 PM
You don't have a passport?

I haven't had to show my drivers license for anything in a long, long time
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: dazzleman on February 27, 2016, 03:00:31 PM
Quote from: HotRodPilot on February 27, 2016, 01:32:43 PM
You don't have a passport?

I haven't had to show my drivers license for anything in a long, long time

Yes, but I don't want to bring it with me for domestic flights.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: Rich on February 27, 2016, 03:01:20 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on February 27, 2016, 03:00:31 PM
Yes, but I don't want to bring it with me for domestic flights.

What's what cars, road trips, and 911's are fo, Dave.  Get up to speed :praise:
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 27, 2016, 07:47:22 PM
Most states were already compliant, hover over your state
https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-enforcement-brief (https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-enforcement-brief)

Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: CaminoRacer on February 27, 2016, 08:09:16 PM
Of course Kentucky isn't already compliant :(
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 27, 2016, 08:34:09 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 27, 2016, 08:09:16 PM
Of course Kentucky isn't already compliant :(

because Super Special.


From what I remember, it's just a standardized list of documents which can be used to verify identity. To prevent DL being issued willy-nilly.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: Rupert on February 27, 2016, 09:08:08 PM
I wonder if my federal ID card would count.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: dazzleman on February 28, 2016, 05:59:51 AM
It seems that a birth certificate and/or passport is needed when I renew my license to verify ID.  It seems I've gone through this before, but I can't remember when.  I can just bring both my passport and my birth certificate, and I hope that will do it.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 28, 2016, 10:21:12 AM
Those with old DL should be plenty!
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: CaminoRacer on February 28, 2016, 01:50:42 PM
Quote from: Rupert on February 27, 2016, 09:08:08 PM
I wonder if my federal ID card would count.

Wonder if my Taco Bell loyalty punch card will work
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: Rupert on February 28, 2016, 02:35:46 PM
Can you use it to get into federal buildings?
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: CaminoRacer on February 28, 2016, 07:58:22 PM
No but I can get a free crunchwrap after 10 visits.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: Rupert on February 28, 2016, 08:03:26 PM
Probably counts then.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: MX793 on February 29, 2016, 04:51:14 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 28, 2016, 10:21:12 AM
Those with old DL should be plenty!

The Real ID act requires more stringent forms of ID to get a license than many states currently require.  An old license in a state not currently in compliance will likely not be enough.  I'm guessing passport or birth certificate will be required.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 29, 2016, 07:37:43 AM
Quote from: MX793 on February 29, 2016, 04:51:14 AM
The Real ID act requires more stringent forms of ID to get a license than many states currently require.  An old license in a state not currently in compliance will likely not be enough.  I'm guessing passport or birth certificate will be required.

Quote from: dazzleman on February 28, 2016, 05:59:51 AM
I can just bring both my passport and my birth certificate, and I hope that will do it.

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 28, 2016, 10:21:12 AM
Those with old DL should be plenty!
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: MaxPower on March 01, 2016, 06:20:26 PM
Maine, where I live, isn't compliant and the legislature has been pretty outspoken about its desire not to comply.  This has come to a head before, with the federal government setting a deadline and states not complying, and in the past the feds have blinked first.  Given some big states like NY, CA, TX are noncompliant, I bet the feds blink again.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on March 01, 2016, 06:30:10 PM
Quote from: MaxPower on March 01, 2016, 06:20:26 PM
Maine, where I live, isn't compliant and the legislature has been pretty outspoken about its desire not to comply.  This has come to a head before, with the federal government setting a deadline and states not complying, and in the past the feds have blinked first.  Given some big states like NY, CA, TX are noncompliant, I bet the feds blink again.

HEY.
How's it going, man?
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 01, 2016, 06:37:13 PM
Quote from: MaxPower on March 01, 2016, 06:20:26 PM
Maine, where I live, isn't compliant and the legislature has been pretty outspoken about its desire not to comply.  This has come to a head before, with the federal government setting a deadline and states not complying, and in the past the feds have blinked first.  Given some big states like NY, CA, TX are noncompliant, I bet the feds blink again.

It's a pretty lame tug-o-war game.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: Laconian on March 02, 2016, 11:37:43 AM
IIRC WA state's driver's licenses aren't REAL ID compliant.

I guess I have my NEXUS card and passport to prove my shittizenship.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: dazzleman on March 07, 2016, 11:00:48 AM
So it turned out that I needed proof of my social security number and two pieces of recent mail to prove my address, two things never mentioned on the state's website.

Luckily I went to the AAA office to renew rather than the DMV, which is completely dysfunctional and has hours long waits.  That made the need to make 2 trips more bearable.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: 280Z Turbo on March 07, 2016, 09:20:46 PM
What are they hoping to accomplish? Isn't this racist or something?
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: MaxPower on March 09, 2016, 04:38:28 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on March 01, 2016, 06:30:10 PM
HEY.
How's it going, man?
Not bad, thanks for asking. I bought an old Land Rover Discovery a few months ago, so that was pretty stupid.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: Laconian on March 09, 2016, 05:26:48 PM
Hahaha, what?
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: Rupert on March 09, 2016, 07:32:07 PM
LOL, yeah, what and also why?
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: 12,000 RPM on March 11, 2016, 10:45:35 AM
Quote from: dazzleman on February 27, 2016, 03:00:31 PM
Yes, but I don't want to bring it with me for domestic flights.
Just get a passport card. I keep mine in my wallet.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: dazzleman on March 11, 2016, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 11, 2016, 10:45:35 AM
Just get a passport card. I keep mine in my wallet.

My license now had the all important star on it.   Set for another 6 years.
Title: Re: REAL ID
Post by: Laconian on March 11, 2016, 10:21:13 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 11, 2016, 10:45:35 AM
Just get a passport card. I keep mine in my wallet.

NEXUS, boyeeeee