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Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: ifcar on May 30, 2005, 01:07:09 PM
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Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: BMWDave on May 30, 2005, 01:16:07 PM
Looks to be ok so far.  Seems that they kept the overall design.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 06:09:03 PM
i hope this is a hit for saturn.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: giant_mtb on May 30, 2005, 06:14:45 PM
I like it...it sort of reminds me of a Cadillac.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: BMWDave on May 30, 2005, 06:23:35 PM
Quotei hope this is a hit for saturn.
They sure need one badly.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 06:25:31 PM
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They sure need one badly.
hopefully, saturn can stage a comeback with this and the SKY.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: BMWDave on May 30, 2005, 06:28:34 PM
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They sure need one badly.
hopefully, saturn can stage a comeback with this and the SKY.
The SKY is low volume, and they would need the aura to be as good as the 300C was for Chrysler.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 06:30:46 PM
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They sure need one badly.
hopefully, saturn can stage a comeback with this and the SKY.
The SKY is low volume, and they would need the aura to be as good as the 300C was for Chrysler.
yes, but the SKY'd draw buyers into the showroom....
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: BMWDave on May 30, 2005, 06:34:14 PM
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They sure need one badly.
hopefully, saturn can stage a comeback with this and the SKY.
The SKY is low volume, and they would need the aura to be as good as the 300C was for Chrysler.
yes, but the SKY'd draw buyers into the showroom....
If there is nothing else in the showroom besides the L Class, then people wont buy it.  Hopefully, the Aura will be good enough that it wont need the Sky to draw buyers in.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 06:35:51 PM
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Quotei hope this is a hit for saturn.
They sure need one badly.
hopefully, saturn can stage a comeback with this and the SKY.
The SKY is low volume, and they would need the aura to be as good as the 300C was for Chrysler.
yes, but the SKY'd draw buyers into the showroom....
If there is nothing else in the showroom besides the L Class, then people wont buy it.  Hopefully, the Aura will be good enough that it wont need the Sky to draw buyers in.
but the prospective buyers would learn about these cars, and there's a chance they'd buy them.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: BMWDave on May 30, 2005, 06:37:29 PM
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They sure need one badly.
hopefully, saturn can stage a comeback with this and the SKY.
The SKY is low volume, and they would need the aura to be as good as the 300C was for Chrysler.
yes, but the SKY'd draw buyers into the showroom....
If there is nothing else in the showroom besides the L Class, then people wont buy it.  Hopefully, the Aura will be good enough that it wont need the Sky to draw buyers in.
but the prospective buyers would learn about these cars, and there's a chance they'd buy them.
People are not going to buy a crappy car (L series) simply because they see the Sky.  It helps a company to have a Sky-like vehicle when there are other vehicles in the showrrom that people might want.  Unfortunately, as of now, this is not the case with Saturn.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 06:39:13 PM
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They sure need one badly.
hopefully, saturn can stage a comeback with this and the SKY.
The SKY is low volume, and they would need the aura to be as good as the 300C was for Chrysler.
yes, but the SKY'd draw buyers into the showroom....
If there is nothing else in the showroom besides the L Class, then people wont buy it.  Hopefully, the Aura will be good enough that it wont need the Sky to draw buyers in.
but the prospective buyers would learn about these cars, and there's a chance they'd buy them.
People are not going to buy a crappy car (L series) simply because they see the Sky.  It helps a company to have a Sky-like vehicle when there are other vehicles in the showrrom that people might want.  Unfortunately, as of now, this is not the case with Saturn.
with the Aura and some other products on the horizon (hopefully), saturn's SKY will draw in people to the showrooms, and they may drive off in a new Saturn.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: BMWDave on May 30, 2005, 06:41:12 PM
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Quotei hope this is a hit for saturn.
They sure need one badly.
hopefully, saturn can stage a comeback with this and the SKY.
The SKY is low volume, and they would need the aura to be as good as the 300C was for Chrysler.
yes, but the SKY'd draw buyers into the showroom....
If there is nothing else in the showroom besides the L Class, then people wont buy it.  Hopefully, the Aura will be good enough that it wont need the Sky to draw buyers in.
but the prospective buyers would learn about these cars, and there's a chance they'd buy them.
People are not going to buy a crappy car (L series) simply because they see the Sky.  It helps a company to have a Sky-like vehicle when there are other vehicles in the showrrom that people might want.  Unfortunately, as of now, this is not the case with Saturn.
with the Aura and some other products on the horizon (hopefully), saturn's SKY will draw in people to the showrooms, and they may drive off in a new Saturn.
Thats pretty much what GM wants.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 06:41:59 PM
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They sure need one badly.
hopefully, saturn can stage a comeback with this and the SKY.
The SKY is low volume, and they would need the aura to be as good as the 300C was for Chrysler.
yes, but the SKY'd draw buyers into the showroom....
If there is nothing else in the showroom besides the L Class, then people wont buy it.  Hopefully, the Aura will be good enough that it wont need the Sky to draw buyers in.
but the prospective buyers would learn about these cars, and there's a chance they'd buy them.
People are not going to buy a crappy car (L series) simply because they see the Sky.  It helps a company to have a Sky-like vehicle when there are other vehicles in the showrrom that people might want.  Unfortunately, as of now, this is not the case with Saturn.
with the Aura and some other products on the horizon (hopefully), saturn's SKY will draw in people to the showrooms, and they may drive off in a new Saturn.
Thats pretty much what GM wants.
know of any new saturn products coming out?
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: BMWDave on May 30, 2005, 06:44:11 PM
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Quotei hope this is a hit for saturn.
They sure need one badly.
hopefully, saturn can stage a comeback with this and the SKY.
The SKY is low volume, and they would need the aura to be as good as the 300C was for Chrysler.
yes, but the SKY'd draw buyers into the showroom....
If there is nothing else in the showroom besides the L Class, then people wont buy it.  Hopefully, the Aura will be good enough that it wont need the Sky to draw buyers in.
but the prospective buyers would learn about these cars, and there's a chance they'd buy them.
People are not going to buy a crappy car (L series) simply because they see the Sky.  It helps a company to have a Sky-like vehicle when there are other vehicles in the showrrom that people might want.  Unfortunately, as of now, this is not the case with Saturn.
with the Aura and some other products on the horizon (hopefully), saturn's SKY will draw in people to the showrooms, and they may drive off in a new Saturn.
Thats pretty much what GM wants.
know of any new saturn products coming out?
This and the Aura.  And probably some more models after that.  Perhaps a aura station wagon or coupe, although I'm not sure.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 06:45:53 PM
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Quotei hope this is a hit for saturn.
They sure need one badly.
hopefully, saturn can stage a comeback with this and the SKY.
The SKY is low volume, and they would need the aura to be as good as the 300C was for Chrysler.
yes, but the SKY'd draw buyers into the showroom....
If there is nothing else in the showroom besides the L Class, then people wont buy it.  Hopefully, the Aura will be good enough that it wont need the Sky to draw buyers in.
but the prospective buyers would learn about these cars, and there's a chance they'd buy them.
People are not going to buy a crappy car (L series) simply because they see the Sky.  It helps a company to have a Sky-like vehicle when there are other vehicles in the showrrom that people might want.  Unfortunately, as of now, this is not the case with Saturn.
with the Aura and some other products on the horizon (hopefully), saturn's SKY will draw in people to the showrooms, and they may drive off in a new Saturn.
Thats pretty much what GM wants.
know of any new saturn products coming out?
This and the Aura.  And probably some more models after that.  Perhaps a aura station wagon or coupe, although I'm not sure.
maybe even a sweet new hardtop convertible, like the G6, as they're on the same platform.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: BMWDave on May 30, 2005, 06:46:16 PM
Thats what I was thinking.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 11:08:05 PM
QuoteThats what I was thinking.
hopefully the two cars won't steal sales away from each other.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: ifcar on May 31, 2005, 05:37:38 AM
Just in from Saturn:
-Relay (2005)
-Ion facelift (2005)

Coming soon from Saturn:
-Vue facelift (2006)
-Aura (2007)
-Sky (2007)
-Ion redesign (?), 2007-2008
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on May 31, 2005, 06:35:00 PM
QuoteJust in from Saturn:
-Relay (2005)
-Ion facelift (2005)

Coming soon from Saturn:
-Vue facelift (2006)
-Aura (2007)
-Sky (2007)
-Ion redesign (?), 2007-2008
ion and relay are crap, vue facelift won't do much, and maybe the other 3 will do much better.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: ifcar on May 31, 2005, 06:44:56 PM
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QuoteJust in from Saturn:
-Relay (2005)
-Ion facelift (2005)

Coming soon from Saturn:
-Vue facelift (2006)
-Aura (2007)
-Sky (2007)
-Ion redesign (?), 2007-2008
ion and relay are crap, vue facelift won't do much, and maybe the other 3 will do much better.
It's bringing an extensive interior upgrade, and hopefully redesigned seats as well. Together, those fixes should be able to correct the vehicle's biggest flaws and make it actually competitive.  
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on May 31, 2005, 06:47:42 PM
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QuoteJust in from Saturn:
-Relay (2005)
-Ion facelift (2005)

Coming soon from Saturn:
-Vue facelift (2006)
-Aura (2007)
-Sky (2007)
-Ion redesign (?), 2007-2008
ion and relay are crap, vue facelift won't do much, and maybe the other 3 will do much better.
It's bringing an extensive interior upgrade, and hopefully redesigned seats as well. Together, those fixes should be able to correct the vehicle's biggest flaws and make it actually competitive.
for the ion?
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: GMPenguin on May 31, 2005, 06:58:03 PM
QuoteLooks to be ok so far.  Seems that they kept the overall design.
They better. :angry:  
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: ifcar on May 31, 2005, 06:59:02 PM
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QuoteJust in from Saturn:
-Relay (2005)
-Ion facelift (2005)

Coming soon from Saturn:
-Vue facelift (2006)
-Aura (2007)
-Sky (2007)
-Ion redesign (?), 2007-2008
ion and relay are crap, vue facelift won't do much, and maybe the other 3 will do much better.
It's bringing an extensive interior upgrade, and hopefully redesigned seats as well. Together, those fixes should be able to correct the vehicle's biggest flaws and make it actually competitive.
for the ion?
The Ion's still selling well, so I suppose they can be happy with its success.  
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: BMWDave on May 31, 2005, 07:02:29 PM
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QuoteJust in from Saturn:
-Relay (2005)
-Ion facelift (2005)

Coming soon from Saturn:
-Vue facelift (2006)
-Aura (2007)
-Sky (2007)
-Ion redesign (?), 2007-2008
ion and relay are crap, vue facelift won't do much, and maybe the other 3 will do much better.
It's bringing an extensive interior upgrade, and hopefully redesigned seats as well. Together, those fixes should be able to correct the vehicle's biggest flaws and make it actually competitive.
for the ion?
The Ion's still selling well, so I suppose they can be happy with its success.
How many units has it sold so farthis year?
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on May 31, 2005, 07:03:30 PM
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QuoteJust in from Saturn:
-Relay (2005)
-Ion facelift (2005)

Coming soon from Saturn:
-Vue facelift (2006)
-Aura (2007)
-Sky (2007)
-Ion redesign (?), 2007-2008
ion and relay are crap, vue facelift won't do much, and maybe the other 3 will do much better.
It's bringing an extensive interior upgrade, and hopefully redesigned seats as well. Together, those fixes should be able to correct the vehicle's biggest flaws and make it actually competitive.
for the ion?
The Ion's still selling well, so I suppose they can be happy with its success.
it's selling well? wow, never actually knew that.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: ifcar on May 31, 2005, 07:09:27 PM
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-Relay (2005)
-Ion facelift (2005)

Coming soon from Saturn:
-Vue facelift (2006)
-Aura (2007)
-Sky (2007)
-Ion redesign (?), 2007-2008
ion and relay are crap, vue facelift won't do much, and maybe the other 3 will do much better.
It's bringing an extensive interior upgrade, and hopefully redesigned seats as well. Together, those fixes should be able to correct the vehicle's biggest flaws and make it actually competitive.
for the ion?
The Ion's still selling well, so I suppose they can be happy with its success.
How many units has it sold so farthis year?
Over 30K through April, putting them on track for around 100K for the year.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on May 31, 2005, 07:14:53 PM
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QuoteJust in from Saturn:
-Relay (2005)
-Ion facelift (2005)

Coming soon from Saturn:
-Vue facelift (2006)
-Aura (2007)
-Sky (2007)
-Ion redesign (?), 2007-2008
ion and relay are crap, vue facelift won't do much, and maybe the other 3 will do much better.
It's bringing an extensive interior upgrade, and hopefully redesigned seats as well. Together, those fixes should be able to correct the vehicle's biggest flaws and make it actually competitive.
for the ion?
The Ion's still selling well, so I suppose they can be happy with its success.
How many units has it sold so farthis year?
Over 30K through April, putting them on track for around 100K for the year.
nice! didn't know they were selling that well. i haven't seen one for quite a while.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: BMWDave on May 31, 2005, 07:15:50 PM
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QuoteJust in from Saturn:
-Relay (2005)
-Ion facelift (2005)

Coming soon from Saturn:
-Vue facelift (2006)
-Aura (2007)
-Sky (2007)
-Ion redesign (?), 2007-2008
ion and relay are crap, vue facelift won't do much, and maybe the other 3 will do much better.
It's bringing an extensive interior upgrade, and hopefully redesigned seats as well. Together, those fixes should be able to correct the vehicle's biggest flaws and make it actually competitive.
for the ion?
The Ion's still selling well, so I suppose they can be happy with its success.
How many units has it sold so farthis year?
Over 30K through April, putting them on track for around 100K for the year.
Not bad at all.  I dont see many though.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: mazda6er on June 01, 2005, 09:15:22 AM
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-Relay (2005)
-Ion facelift (2005)

Coming soon from Saturn:
-Vue facelift (2006)
-Aura (2007)
-Sky (2007)
-Ion redesign (?), 2007-2008
ion and relay are crap, vue facelift won't do much, and maybe the other 3 will do much better.
It's bringing an extensive interior upgrade, and hopefully redesigned seats as well. Together, those fixes should be able to correct the vehicle's biggest flaws and make it actually competitive.
for the ion?
The Ion's still selling well, so I suppose they can be happy with its success.
How many units has it sold so farthis year?
Over 30K through April, putting them on track for around 100K for the year.
Not bad at all.  I dont see many though.
Perhaps we've trained ourselves to avert our eyes!  :D  
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: mazda6er on June 01, 2005, 09:22:27 AM
In reference to the Sky, I agree completely with Raghavan. Despite the fact that it is a "low-volume" car, it will bring people into the showrooms, and it will lead to more sales of Saturn's other vehicles. Just because most of their other cars are bad doesn't mean people won't buy them, otherwise, no one would have bought Cavaliers, and we all know that many people have bought Cavaliers. The Sky will also do wonders to improve brand-image. Teens unfamiliar with Saturn (or cars in general) will see an Ion commercial, say "hey that's the brand with that cool convertible" and ask Mommy and Daddy for an Ion, thinking all their cars are cool. This is just an example (maybe a bit too specific) but as you all know people that don't know jack about cars, you'll realize this is not a stretch.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: BMWDave on June 01, 2005, 10:11:03 AM
QuoteIn reference to the Sky, I agree completely with Raghavan. Despite the fact that it is a "low-volume" car, it will bring people into the showrooms, and it will lead to more sales of Saturn's other vehicles. Just because most of their other cars are bad doesn't mean people won't buy them, otherwise, no one would have bought Cavaliers, and we all know that many people have bought Cavaliers. The Sky will also do wonders to improve brand-image. Teens unfamiliar with Saturn (or cars in general) will see an Ion commercial, say "hey that's the brand with that cool convertible" and ask Mommy and Daddy for an Ion, thinking all their cars are cool. This is just an example (maybe a bit too specific) but as you all know people that don't know jack about cars, you'll realize this is not a stretch.
The Cavalier sold so many units because it was priced very competitively.  
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: mazda6er on June 01, 2005, 11:24:06 AM
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QuoteIn reference to the Sky, I agree completely with Raghavan. Despite the fact that it is a "low-volume" car, it will bring people into the showrooms, and it will lead to more sales of Saturn's other vehicles. Just because most of their other cars are bad doesn't mean people won't buy them, otherwise, no one would have bought Cavaliers, and we all know that many people have bought Cavaliers. The Sky will also do wonders to improve brand-image. Teens unfamiliar with Saturn (or cars in general) will see an Ion commercial, say "hey that's the brand with that cool convertible" and ask Mommy and Daddy for an Ion, thinking all their cars are cool. This is just an example (maybe a bit too specific) but as you all know people that don't know jack about cars, you'll realize this is not a stretch.
The Cavalier sold so many units because it was priced very competitively.
I know that, which is why people will buy Saturns even if they are not "good" cars, because they are priced competitively as well.  Nowhere in my post do I suggest that the Cavalier sold well because it was anything other than cheap.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: Raghavan on June 01, 2005, 10:36:48 PM
QuoteIn reference to the Sky, I agree completely with Raghavan. Despite the fact that it is a "low-volume" car, it will bring people into the showrooms, and it will lead to more sales of Saturn's other vehicles. Just because most of their other cars are bad doesn't mean people won't buy them, otherwise, no one would have bought Cavaliers, and we all know that many people have bought Cavaliers. The Sky will also do wonders to improve brand-image. Teens unfamiliar with Saturn (or cars in general) will see an Ion commercial, say "hey that's the brand with that cool convertible" and ask Mommy and Daddy for an Ion, thinking all their cars are cool. This is just an example (maybe a bit too specific) but as you all know people that don't know jack about cars, you'll realize this is not a stretch.
right. they don't need to sell too many sky's. they just need those cars to get buyers into their showrooms.
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: ifcar on June 03, 2005, 04:51:01 AM
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/saturn.aura/saturn.aura.500.jpg)
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/saturn.aura/saturn.aura.pro.500.jpg)
Title: Spy Shots: 2007 Saturn Aura
Post by: BMWDave on June 03, 2005, 05:20:44 AM
Quote(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/saturn.aura/saturn.aura.500.jpg)
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/saturn.aura/saturn.aura.pro.500.jpg)
It looks like GM for sure get the overall shape of the vehicle. :)