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Title: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: 2o6 on November 14, 2010, 12:45:33 PM
I didn't think they were serious.

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/muranocrosscab630.jpg)

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/14/nissan-murano-crosscabriolet-revealed-on-facebook/
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: 2o6 on November 14, 2010, 12:46:34 PM
With that said, it doesn't look too bad, honestly.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: CALL_911 on November 14, 2010, 01:19:51 PM
It's cool that they've got the balls to make something like that, but I'm predicting an epic fail.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: MX793 on November 14, 2010, 02:03:39 PM
Not as bad as I thought a drop-top Murano would look.  I'm curious as to how it looks with the top up.  I'm guessing pretty bad.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Xer0 on November 14, 2010, 02:52:06 PM
Watch this becomes the hottest new product ever.  Its messed up and out there enough that it could happen and, more importantly, it doesn't look like a half assed atempt too.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: thewizard16 on November 14, 2010, 03:34:22 PM
Huh. It looks a lot better than I'd imagined it would, but I doubt a soft-top is going to look good when it's raised at all. This seems like one of those vehicles that would have been better off as a hard top.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: S204STi on November 14, 2010, 03:49:36 PM
:confused:

What a pile...
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: CALL_911 on November 14, 2010, 04:05:07 PM
Quote from: Xer0 on November 14, 2010, 02:52:06 PM
Watch this becomes the hottest new product ever.  Its messed up and out there enough that it could happen and, more importantly, it doesn't look like a half assed atempt too.

You could say the same for the X6. Can't say that's the "hottest new product ever."
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: 2o6 on November 14, 2010, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 14, 2010, 04:05:07 PM
You could say the same for the X6. Can't say that's the "hottest new product ever."


To be fair, a vehicle like this will be able to transcend more price points.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: CALL_911 on November 14, 2010, 04:24:02 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on November 14, 2010, 04:17:53 PM

To be fair, a vehicle like this will be able to transcend more price points.

How any more or less so than the X6?
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: 2o6 on November 14, 2010, 04:26:16 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 14, 2010, 04:24:02 PM
How any more or less so than the X6?


It's 1/2 the cost with most of the perceived substance.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: CALL_911 on November 14, 2010, 04:29:12 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on November 14, 2010, 04:26:16 PM

It's 1/2 the cost with most of the perceived substance.

Unless I'm completely missing your point, that's not at all what you said. That doesn't have anything to do with the fact that there could theoretically be a "Sports Activity Coupe" that costs $30k or so. I don't think this could have more of an influence over more price points than, say, an X6.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: 2o6 on November 14, 2010, 04:33:18 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 14, 2010, 04:29:12 PM
Unless I'm completely missing your point, that's not at all what you said. That doesn't have anything to do with the fact that there could theoretically be a "Sports Activity Coupe" that costs $30k or so. I don't think this could have more of an influence over more price points than, say, an X6.


The point being is that there are more people able to afford a Murano Cabrio rather than an X6. Those who can afford an X6 can afford a Murano Convertable, and may be likely to buy the car due to how unique the product is and due to the fact that the standard Murano is not a bad place to be inside.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: the Teuton on November 14, 2010, 05:03:41 PM
Quote from: R-inge on November 14, 2010, 03:49:36 PM
:confused:

What a pile...

...a pile of awesomeness. :rockon:
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Catman on November 16, 2010, 04:21:40 PM
terrible
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Laconian on November 16, 2010, 06:51:14 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on November 14, 2010, 04:33:18 PM

The point being is that there are more people able to afford a Murano Cabrio rather than an X6. Those who can afford an X6 can afford a Murano Convertable, and may be likely to buy the car due to how unique the product is and due to the fact that the standard Murano is not a bad place to be inside.
IMO, just because it's cheaper doesn't mean it's going to unlock all kinds of demand in the coveted Useless Sport Activity Thing market. The crowd that buys fripperies like $40k+ convertible SUVs isn't going to be price sensitive in the same way that the crowd that compares compact sedans is.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: the Teuton on November 16, 2010, 07:02:32 PM
Quote from: Catman on November 16, 2010, 04:21:40 PM
terrible

Today just so happened to be opposite day.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: ifcar on November 16, 2010, 07:13:41 PM
The naysayers are looking at this the wrong way. It's not an SUV, it's a Sebring competitor -- comfort-oriented mainstream droptop -- that happens to be a little taller. Wouldn't you all take this over a Sebring?
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: the Teuton on November 16, 2010, 07:15:04 PM
Iffasaurus-Rex FTW.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Laconian on November 16, 2010, 07:16:52 PM
Quote from: ifcar on November 16, 2010, 07:13:41 PM
The naysayers are looking at this the wrong way. It's not an SUV, it's a Sebring competitor -- comfort-oriented mainstream droptop -- that happens to be a little taller. Wouldn't you all take this over a Sebring?
The Sebring makes a lousy spokescar for the four-seater convertible market. :lol:
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Cookie Monster on November 16, 2010, 07:28:53 PM
I'd take one.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: 2o6 on November 16, 2010, 08:21:29 PM
Quote from: ifcar on November 16, 2010, 07:13:41 PM
The naysayers are looking at this the wrong way. It's not an SUV, it's a Sebring competitor -- comfort-oriented mainstream droptop -- that happens to be a little taller. Wouldn't you all take this over a Sebring?


That's a clever way of looking at it.


I, however, think that Nissan will market it on shock value alone.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: the Teuton on November 16, 2010, 08:27:05 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on November 16, 2010, 08:21:29 PM

That's a clever way of looking at it.


I, however, think that Nissan will market it on shock value alone.

With this and the Juke in their lineup, they'd be insane not to.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: 68_427 on November 16, 2010, 08:42:48 PM
That reminds me I saw a white Juke today.

HOLY BALLS IT WAS AWESOME
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: thewizard16 on November 16, 2010, 10:06:11 PM
Quote from: 68_427 on November 16, 2010, 08:42:48 PM
That reminds me I saw a white Juke today.

HOLY BALLS IT WAS AWESOME
I saw a red Juke in the parking garage a few days ago. I now consider it one of the ugliest vehicles currently on the road. It has slightly more cohesive body lines, but it's right up there with the Aztek on my list of least favorite vehicles on styling alone now.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: The Pirate on November 16, 2010, 11:54:37 PM
Convertible roof [lack of] rollover protection coupled with increased weight and high center of gravity is awesome....

Also, it's got to have nothing for cargo capacity.  Much better looking than the X6 though!
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Rupert on November 16, 2010, 11:57:15 PM
Hehe, I think this belongs in a different forum. No utility left.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: 68_427 on November 17, 2010, 04:38:10 AM
But can't you see by it's way tall ride height that this is one badass off road truck?
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: GoCougs on November 17, 2010, 07:34:03 AM
My initial reaction is why the hell would any Nissan 'vert the Murano. But upon reflection, it actually looks quite good, and IMO much better than Nissan's other 'verts such as the G37C and 370Z.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Tave on November 17, 2010, 08:43:54 AM
This thing is 20 million different kinds of awesome.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Vinsanity on November 17, 2010, 11:13:35 AM
I have to admit it actually doesn't look half bad, but I also have to wonder, how the hell did they even come up with this idea?


Someone at the Nissan design studio must've gotten bored in the middle of sketching an Altima/Maxima convertible, and then thought, "ooh, I have a better idea..."
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: SVT666 on November 17, 2010, 02:05:40 PM
Looks great.  Too bad the Murano's front end looks the way it does though.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: 68_427 on November 17, 2010, 02:15:33 PM
This thing starts at $46K.  wowza.

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/4-2011-nissan-murano-crosscab.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/04-nissan-murano-crosscabriolet-1290024283.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/17-nissan-murano-crosscabriolet.jpg)


I like the dash of my friends Murano better than this though.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Vinsanity on November 17, 2010, 02:49:55 PM
Quote from: 68_427 on November 17, 2010, 02:15:33 PM
This thing starts at $46K.  wowza.

wtf the G37 convertible starts at like $45k
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: CJ on November 17, 2010, 04:00:21 PM
I think this is WAY cooler than a G37.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Cookie Monster on November 17, 2010, 04:03:15 PM
Ok that's a lot more than I thought.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Rupert on November 17, 2010, 09:09:07 PM
It reminds of of ultra-lux ultra-huge convertibles from the '30s. I kind of like it, but just call the damn thing a car.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: the Teuton on November 17, 2010, 09:31:32 PM
Quote from: Rupert on November 17, 2010, 09:09:07 PM
It reminds of of ultra-lux ultra-huge convertibles from the '30s. I kind of like it, but just call the damn thing a car.

But it sorta crosses over segments. I have it! Let's call it a crossover!
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Rupert on November 17, 2010, 09:38:51 PM
What segments? Tall and Not Tall?
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on November 17, 2010, 09:52:38 PM
If I want a topless SUV I will go this route

(http://www.prlog.org/10866597-jeep-wrangler-islander.jpg)
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: ifcar on November 17, 2010, 10:11:46 PM
Quote from: 68_427 on November 17, 2010, 02:15:33 PM
This thing starts at $46K.  wowza.


Yeah, I hope it has a lot of standard features at that price. It's still a fairly luxurious vehicle, but it's going way more niche than I expected.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Laconian on November 17, 2010, 10:35:36 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/4-2011-nissan-murano-crosscab.jpg)

OK, now that I have some size perspective with the driver in his seat, the car looks incredibly silly/stupid.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Colonel Cadillac on November 17, 2010, 10:41:15 PM
I'm surprised this is the first of this segment (Wrangler is kinda different). I woulda thought BMW would have an X6 convertible or something ridiculous before Nissan. In any event, we should expect to see a whole bunch of new entries to the segment in the near future.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Tave on November 17, 2010, 10:54:15 PM
Quote from: Laconian on November 17, 2010, 10:35:36 PM
OK, now that I have some size perspective with the driver in his seat, the car looks incredibly silly/stupid.


I agree that it looks unusual, but I don't get all the hate! From the POV of the driver, a convertible is the same regardless of the height of the car.

You just hate freedom, is what I think it is... :evildude:
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: the Teuton on November 17, 2010, 11:14:07 PM
Quote from: Laconian on November 17, 2010, 10:35:36 PM
OK, now that I have some size perspective with the driver in his seat, the car looks incredibly silly/stupid.

Dude, it's a Murano. It's gonna be ridiculously ill-proportioned and huge compared to what we're used to. That's the point.

I think it's genius, and I think Nissan will likely sell at least 5,000 next year. I hope that's not considered underperforming.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Cookie Monster on November 17, 2010, 11:56:56 PM
Quote from: Tave on November 17, 2010, 10:54:15 PM

I agree that it looks unusual, but I don't get all the hate! From the POV of the driver, a convertible is the same regardless of the height of the car.

You just hate freedom, is what I think it is... :evildude:
Dude he drives a miata
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Vinsanity on November 18, 2010, 12:47:15 AM
ok, so what kind of buyer are they looking to capture that would choose this over the 328i or aforementioned G37 convertibles for the same price?

if I wanted a quirky $40k convertible, I'd just get a Saab.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Tave on November 18, 2010, 06:01:13 AM
Quote from: thecarnut on November 17, 2010, 11:56:56 PM
Dude he drives a miata

???
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: 2o6 on November 18, 2010, 06:32:14 AM
Make no mistake, Nissan is doing this because they can.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: ifcar on November 18, 2010, 07:19:58 AM
Quote from: Vinsanity on November 18, 2010, 12:47:15 AM
ok, so what kind of buyer are they looking to capture that would choose this over the 328i or aforementioned G37 convertibles for the same price?

if I wanted a quirky $40k convertible, I'd just get a Saab.

Someone who wants a plusher ride and (I hope) more rear seat room out of their droptop.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Colonel Cadillac on November 18, 2010, 11:12:08 AM
Quote from: Vinsanity on November 18, 2010, 12:47:15 AM
ok, so what kind of buyer are they looking to capture that would choose this over the 328i or aforementioned G37 convertibles for the same price?

if I wanted a quirky $40k convertible, I'd just get a Saab.

The same people who would buy an SUV over a 3-series sedan/wagon.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on November 18, 2010, 11:23:18 AM
I think this thing was clearly built for females. 
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Vinsanity on November 18, 2010, 11:28:21 AM
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on November 18, 2010, 11:12:08 AM
The same people who would buy an SUV over a 3-series sedan/wagon.

But a Tahoe, for example, is considerably more versatile than a 3-series, which is why many buyers make that choice. That advantage doesn't exist with this Murano.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Tave on November 18, 2010, 11:42:38 AM
Hell's bells, I think you hate freedom almost as much as Laconian. :evildude:




Seriously now, no one is going to cross-shop this with a 3-series. :huh:
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Colonel Cadillac on November 18, 2010, 11:46:22 AM
Quote from: Vinsanity on November 18, 2010, 11:28:21 AM
But a Tahoe, for example, is considerably more versatile than a 3-series, which is why many buyers make that choice. That advantage doesn't exist with this Murano.

Replace "Tahoe" with "X3" and reanalyze.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Vinsanity on November 18, 2010, 12:51:58 PM
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on November 18, 2010, 11:46:22 AM
Replace "Tahoe" with "X3" and reanalyze.

well the X3's added height does add somewhat more cargo capacity, no? If anything, it provides easier access to the back seat and cargo area.


Quote from: Tave on November 18, 2010, 11:42:38 AM
Hell's bells, I think you hate freedom almost as much as Laconian. :evildude:




Seriously now, no one is going to cross-shop this with a 3-series. :huh:

I don't hate the fact that this is available. I'm just questioning its purpose. Iffy's probably right, though. Although convertibles in general ride more softly than their hardtop counterparts, practically all of them have tight quarters in the back. That's probably the most appealing aspect of this Murano, aside from the "OMG look how unique" factor
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Cookie Monster on November 18, 2010, 12:57:27 PM
Quote from: Tave on November 18, 2010, 06:01:13 AM
???

I was drunk so I don't know what I was saying. :lol:

I just wonder how many of these Nissan can sell on the shock value alone. I like it but for the price I would just get the G37S or the 335Ci.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: 2o6 on November 18, 2010, 02:10:05 PM
Top up:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1144.snc4/148659_10150306611465375_238312155374_15604797_6917179_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1137.snc4/149994_10150306609665375_238312155374_15604776_4758713_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs928.snc4/74193_10150306611285375_238312155374_15604794_965246_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: the Teuton on November 18, 2010, 02:45:28 PM
I think the design is awesome. It's the only good thing the French have done in the last 100 years.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Cookie Monster on November 18, 2010, 03:24:49 PM
Meh, not liking the top.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: giant_mtb on November 18, 2010, 05:41:35 PM
LOL That looks so abso-fucking-lutely ridiculous with the top up. :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

(http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/hurr_durr.jpg)
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Vinsanity on November 18, 2010, 06:04:15 PM
I have to wonder how much that extra upper section of the rear window actually helps.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: Speed_Racer on November 18, 2010, 08:29:13 PM
This looks like something a Florida retired couple would drive.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: hotrodalex on November 19, 2010, 05:19:16 AM
Top down is nice. But I just about threw up when I saw the top up...
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: omicron on November 21, 2010, 07:24:26 AM
It looks like a shoe. Nice colour, though.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: ifcar on November 21, 2010, 07:36:00 AM
Quote from: omicron on November 21, 2010, 07:24:26 AM
It looks like a shoe. Nice colour, though.

Personally, I wouldn't wear an aqua shoe, but I guess it's an Australian thing.
Title: Re: Nissan Murano Cabrio
Post by: 68_427 on November 21, 2010, 09:23:55 AM
Quote from: ifcar on November 21, 2010, 07:36:00 AM
Personally, I wouldn't wear an aqua shoe, but I guess it's an Australian thing.

I almost bought a pair... so definitely a having extraordinary taste thing.