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Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: BMWDave on June 18, 2005, 08:37:29 PM
Hot Liberty CRD Makes Jeep Scramble for More Diesel Engines
Date Posted 06-17-2005


CHELSEA, Mich. ? The Chrysler Group is arm wrestling Italian engine supplier VM Motori to get more diesels so that it can increase production of the hot 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD.

Jeff Bell, vice president of Chrysler and Jeep, told Inside Line that the automaker was "hoping to get two times as many" diesel engines from VM Motori as originally requested. That would give Jeep the ability to build up to 10,000 units of the Liberty CRD by the end of this year. VM Motori is a DaimlerChrysler group member.

The Liberty CRD is so hot, Bell said, that "only the [Chrysler] 300 is selling faster in the Chrysler Group." By the end of May, more than 6,000 Liberty CRDs had been shipped to dealers. Chrysler CEO Dieter Zetsche originally said 5,000 units of the Liberty CRD would be built through 2005.

"We've been surprised by how much demand we've had," said Bell, referring to the Liberty CRD. "But Americans are naturally curious, and we will continue to promote it as an alternative."

The Liberty CRD is powered by a 2.8-liter, four-cylinder, common-rail, turbodiesel. Jeep says the Liberty CRD gets 22-percent higher fuel economy than the gas-powered Liberty, which uses the 3.7-liter, V6 engine.

Jeep does not plan to raise the price on the Liberty CRD in response to consumer demand, Bell said.

What this means to you: It may be easier to get your hands on a Liberty CRD in the future, but because of the fickle nature of American consumers, Jeep isn't committing to a huge volume increase.

Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: TBR on June 18, 2005, 08:46:34 PM
"Jeep does not plan to raise the price on the Liberty CRD in response to consumer demand, Bell said."

Good, I was afraid that might happen. I hope this means we will be getting more diesel powered vehicles from DaimlerChrysler :).  
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: BMWDave on June 18, 2005, 08:47:59 PM
Quote"Jeep does not plan to raise the price on the Liberty CRD in response to consumer demand, Bell said."

Good, I was afraid that might happen. I hope this means we will be getting more diesel powered vehicles from DaimlerChrysler :).
And other manufacturers too.  Diesels have a lot of potential here, and I hope other manufacturers see that.
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: TBR on June 18, 2005, 08:52:56 PM
Just checked the numbers, the CDI gets 21/26 mpg compared to 17/22 mpg for a 4x4 3.7l auto (the CDI is 4x4 and auto only) for only $2000 more (you could easily get that back thanks to better resale value besides the fuel economy difference (assuming the price of diesel goes back down sometime soon of course)).  
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: Secret Chimp on June 19, 2005, 02:15:11 AM
Why are some engine options auto-only? Do they not have a manual transmission compatible with it (why did they build it that way in the first place?) or is it some kind of packaging/electronics problem?
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: Catman on June 19, 2005, 03:03:47 AM
I wish my Sequoia had a nice I6 diesel with a turbo! :rockon:   The 4.7L is great engine though.
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: Raza on June 19, 2005, 12:18:30 PM
Mercedes Benz was the first company to sell a diesel passenger car, so DCX selling more diesels makes sense.
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: ifcar on June 19, 2005, 05:04:02 PM
Quote"Jeep does not plan to raise the price on the Liberty CRD in response to consumer demand, Bell said."

Good, I was afraid that might happen. I hope this means we will be getting more diesel powered vehicles from DaimlerChrysler :).
They won't officially raise prices, but the actual selling prices will undoubtedly be higher compared to sticker than other Liberty models. Also, they may reduce rebates/incentives for the CRD version.
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: Tom on June 19, 2005, 06:43:45 PM
No stick with the diesel?  WTF?
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 21, 2005, 10:12:42 AM
They don't have a clue as far as 4x4 enthusiasts are considered with the stick and diesel.  Tons of custom rock crawlers are running them now, for torque and consumption.
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: TBR on June 23, 2005, 10:46:49 AM
I understand why people are disappointed that the CRD is auto only, but, realistically, how many actual buyers will regret the lack of a manual tranismission option?  
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: ifcar on June 23, 2005, 10:56:41 AM
The same buyers looking for fuel economy in a diesel would also tend to prefer the fuel economy of a manual.  
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 23, 2005, 11:02:41 AM
QuoteThe same buyers looking for fuel economy in a diesel would also tend to prefer the fuel economy of a manual.
right on ifcar
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: TBR on June 23, 2005, 07:20:54 PM
QuoteThe same buyers looking for fuel economy in a diesel would also tend to prefer the fuel economy of a manual.
True, but I still don't think it will be that big of a deal to potential consumers.  
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: ifcar on June 23, 2005, 07:42:54 PM
They've already had to increase supply as it is, so that's possible. But I'd bet if they included a manual it would account for at least a full third of sales.
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: TBR on June 23, 2005, 07:45:29 PM
QuoteThey've already had to increase supply as it is, so that's possible. But I'd bet if they included a manual it would account for at least a full third of sales.
Maybe so, but they are already can't build enough of them so it really doesn't matter.
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: ifcar on June 23, 2005, 07:56:39 PM
They could always fix that by raising the price.
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: TBR on June 23, 2005, 08:00:02 PM
QuoteThey could always fix that by raising the price.
Why would they want to do that? Hype is good.  
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: ifcar on June 23, 2005, 08:10:46 PM
Profit is nice, too. One common reason for low production of a niche vehicle is that they may be selling them at a loss (entirely speculating here).
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: 93JC on June 23, 2005, 09:35:53 PM
QuoteNo stick with the diesel?  WTF?
It wasn't designed to mate to a manual. Even the overseas models use the 5-speed automatic.
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: cawimmer430 on June 25, 2005, 03:36:13 AM
I think the Euro Jeep Liberty has a manual option for the diesel.  B)  
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: ifcar on June 25, 2005, 05:21:41 AM
93JC just said that there wasn't.

This is interesting: who knows more about a European Jeep, a European car fan or a Jeep fan? :P
Title: Hot Liberty CRD Makes
Post by: cawimmer430 on June 25, 2005, 12:49:17 PM
Quote93JC just said that there wasn't.

This is interesting: who knows more about a European Jeep, a European car fan or a Jeep fan? :P
I could have sworn to have seen some with an M/T. I'm too lazy to check DCX websites too.  :P