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Title: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on December 15, 2020, 03:54:55 PM

Stream-of-consciousness thoughts.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nchGq8mz/DM35705b.jpg)


Engine cover removed
(https://i.postimg.cc/bv5xhLNR/IMG-1929.jpg)
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on December 15, 2020, 04:11:07 PM
D'oh! Sub-lux flappy paddles always seem to move with the wheel. Sigh.

The Mazda metallic paints are very rewarding, so long as you keep the car clean and waxed. They lose a lot of their depth when the car gets a coat of dust.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: shp4man on December 15, 2020, 04:50:58 PM
The Miata's AT6 is programmed completely differently than a Ford. Does the CX-5 downshift on brake application at freeway speeds? Even more aggressively with harder braking.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on December 15, 2020, 05:04:22 PM
That engine is made entirely out of plug wires and hoses.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 15, 2020, 05:26:05 PM
Quote from: Laconian on December 15, 2020, 05:04:22 PM
That engine is made entirely out of plug wires and hoses.

The modern plastic engine cover has eliminated the need to properly dress an engine.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on December 15, 2020, 05:50:15 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on December 15, 2020, 05:26:05 PM
The modern plastic engine cover has eliminated the need to properly dress an engine.

An automotive girdle.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on December 15, 2020, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Laconian on December 15, 2020, 05:04:22 PM
That engine is made entirely out of plug wires and hoses.
I used to be able to look at any under-hood layout and identify everything. But that was during the era of horse-drawn narrowboats.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: CALL_911 on December 15, 2020, 08:44:05 PM
That red is gorgeous. This is the turbo right?
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on December 15, 2020, 09:16:51 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on December 15, 2020, 08:07:21 PM
I used to be able to look at any under-hood layout and identify everything. But that was during the era of horse-drawn narrowboats.

My god... it's full of sensors!
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on December 16, 2020, 06:40:13 AM
Quote from: CALL_911 on December 15, 2020, 08:44:05 PM
That red is gorgeous. This is the turbo right?
Yes, it's the 2.5 turbo. 250 hp and 320 torques... on premium gas.  On vin ordinaire gasoline it's 227 hp & 310 lb-ft

There's a "Turbo" badge on the back which seems a bit 1980s naff.

Side note: the non-turbo 2.5 in the lower spec models is 187 hp and 186 lb-ft., which is comparable to the CR-V's 1.5T: 190 hp 179 lb-ft.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 16, 2020, 09:50:07 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on December 16, 2020, 06:40:13 AM
Yes, it's the 2.5 turbo. 250 hp and 320 torques... on premium gas.  On vin ordinaire gasoline it's 227 hp & 310 lb-ft

There's a "Turbo" badge on the back which seems a bit 1980s naff.

Side note: the non-turbo 2.5 in the lower spec models is 187 hp and 186 lb-ft., which is comparable to the CR-V's 1.5T: 190 hp 179 lb-ft.

That is plenty of power. I bet it would really open up with a 3-inch exhaust.  :devil:
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: FoMoJo on December 16, 2020, 10:16:44 AM
Engine cover removed

(https://i.postimg.cc/bv5xhLNR/IMG-1929.jpg)

That's a lot of plumbing.  Took me awhile to locate the valve/cam covers.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: MX793 on December 16, 2020, 10:47:52 AM
Quote from: Laconian on December 15, 2020, 09:16:51 PM
My god... it's full of sensors!

At what point do you have enough sensors to see the future?
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: FoMoJo on December 16, 2020, 11:14:00 AM
What the heck is that big shiny thing at the front/side of the motor?
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 16, 2020, 11:36:21 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 16, 2020, 11:14:00 AM
What the heck is that big shiny thing at the front/side of the motor?

It looks like a turbine confabulator regulator.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on December 16, 2020, 02:49:45 PM
I'm going to like the cooled seats. Good for keeping one's parts of shame fresh & fragrant on the hottest of summer days.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on December 18, 2020, 08:03:11 AM
I've ordered some mats for the front & the cargo area. It gets muddy around here & we have to schlep our own garbage to a disposal area. So WeatherTech to the rescue. All those pages & pages of ads in C&D finally paid off.

I'm also considering a UV/infrared tint film on the driver & passenger door windows. I've read that the factory tint  privacy glass in the rear does nothing except cut down light transmission. So pondering the wisdom of a very light film back there.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: MrH on December 18, 2020, 09:04:51 AM
Weathertech stuff is really nice.  I loved them in my 4Runner.

I got the OEM rubber mats with the Outback for free from the dealer.  I'd much rather have the weathertechs, but it isn't worth the money to me right now.

If you're getting tint, I found it's worth spending more and getting the ceramic tint, especially if you don't want to go really dark.  You can get a lot of heat rejection with lighter tints if you get the ceramic versions.  I did that with the Accord because the AC was so weak.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on December 18, 2020, 07:39:23 PM
Just on a nitpicking level. If dealers want customers to carry their advertising, they should pay them a monthly fee to have their stupid decals on the back - and their cheapshit tacky license plate frames.
I had to use shipping tape to lift some of the decal's residual sticky goop off the paintwork.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: MX793 on December 19, 2020, 06:31:06 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on December 18, 2020, 07:39:23 PM
Just on a nitpicking level. If dealers want customers to carry their advertising, they should pay them a monthly fee to have their stupid decals on the back - and their cheapshit tacky license plate frames.
I had to use shipping tape to lift some of the decal's residual sticky goop off the paintwork.


I can tolerate license plate frames, but stickers are a no-no.  Fortunately it doesn't seem like that many dealers do decals around here.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Soup DeVille on December 19, 2020, 10:59:37 AM
Quote from: MX793 on December 19, 2020, 06:31:06 AM
I can tolerate license plate frames, but stickers are a no-no.  Fortunately it doesn't seem like that many dealers do decals around here.

Some of the older school dealerships here do badges. Not stickers, actual zinc cast badges.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: MrH on December 19, 2020, 11:24:24 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on December 18, 2020, 07:39:23 PM
Just on a nitpicking level. If dealers want customers to carry their advertising, they should pay them a monthly fee to have their stupid decals on the back - and their cheapshit tacky license plate frames.
I had to use shipping tape to lift some of the decal's residual sticky goop off the paintwork.


When I bought the Outback, I ordered it.  I told them if they drilled for a front license plate or put a dealer decal on I wouldn't accept it :lol:
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 19, 2020, 11:32:59 AM
Quote from: MrH on December 19, 2020, 11:24:24 AM
When I bought the Outback, I ordered it.  I told them if they drilled for a front license plate or put a dealer decal on I wouldn't accept it :lol:

If I ever buy new- I'm going to do the same- it will be written on the contracts!
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: CaminoRacer on December 19, 2020, 11:34:00 AM
My Miata had a plate frame & sticker but it wasn't difficult to get off, luckily.

Of course it also has holes for a front plate since it was from Washington, but I didn't put my front plate on. Utah cops can deal with it.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Speed_Racer on December 19, 2020, 12:00:49 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 19, 2020, 11:34:00 AM
My Miata had a plate frame & sticker but it wasn't difficult to get off, luckily.

Of course it also has holes for a front plate since it was from Washington, but I didn't put my front plate on. Utah cops can deal with it.

I've been running w/o a front license plate here in UT for 8 yrs. They don't care (thankfully), and I don't believe they can pull you over just for that, it's a secondary offense.
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: veeman on December 20, 2020, 05:51:24 AM
Someone on this board told me that if you keep the dealer sticker/zinc badge on the car; the dealer gives you better quicker service when you take it in for maintenance/repair.  Anyways I've kept the rear dealer badge on my certified used Infiniti but had the Subaru dealer remove it from the Crosstrek before I took it.  They put it on even though I told them I didn't want it and so removed it before I drove it off the lot (just applied it and so it was easy to get off without leaving any mark).
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: MrH on December 20, 2020, 08:59:35 AM
Is this a 2020 or 2021?
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: SJ_GTI on December 20, 2020, 12:21:50 PM
Quote from: veeman on December 20, 2020, 05:51:24 AM
Someone on this board told me that if you keep the dealer sticker/zinc badge on the car; the dealer gives you better quicker service when you take it in for maintenance/repair.  Anyways I've kept the rear dealer badge on my certified used Infiniti but had the Subaru dealer remove it from the Crosstrek before I took it.  They put it on even though I told them I didn't want it and so removed it before I drove it off the lot (just applied it and so it was easy to get off without leaving any mark).

Had the same thing happen when I bought my Audi S4. I specifically told them not to put one on then when I went to pick it up it had a decal on the back. I (politely) told them to remove it and they did (I didn't have to threaten them with not buying but I would have if it got that far).

When I bought my Golf the dealer was more enthusiast friendly. No decal of course but they asked if I even wanted a front license plate installed (I didn't) which technically isn't legal in NJ (my new car wouldn't pass inspection, but new cars automatically get 5 year stickers at initial registration).
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: shp4man on December 20, 2020, 12:31:22 PM


What you really don't want is a fucking wire hacked, Chinese made alarm system or tracking device that some dealers put in every car.
Then the finance person sells it for 3-4 hundred bucks. Or not. But it's still screwing up the human hair diameter wiring on your new car
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 20, 2020, 12:35:09 PM
Quote from: shp4man on December 20, 2020, 12:31:22 PM

What you really don't want is a fucking wire hacked, Chinese made alarm system or tracking device that some dealers put in every car.
Then the finance person sells it for 3-4 hundred bucks. Or not. But it's still screwing up the human hair diameter wiring on your new car

I have installed hundreds of those trackers with starter disabling if you don't make your psyment. :rockon:
Title: Re: Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on December 20, 2020, 01:42:17 PM
Quote from: MrH on December 20, 2020, 08:59:35 AM
Is this a 2020 or 2021?
I've changed the thread title: it's a 2021. I wanted it principally because they vastly improved the infotainment system. I believe the earlier versions did not do CarPlay.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: CaminoRacer on December 20, 2020, 02:01:34 PM
Quote from: shp4man on December 20, 2020, 12:31:22 PM

What you really don't want is a fucking wire hacked, Chinese made alarm system or tracking device that some dealers put in every car.
Then the finance person sells it for 3-4 hundred bucks. Or not. But it's still screwing up the human hair diameter wiring on your new car

That definitely sounds like a California thing.

My dad's VW has an alarm. It came from CA.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on December 21, 2020, 05:28:57 PM
I put in a tankful of premium.  This thing's a real little firecracker under the unassuming identikit CUV skin. Mazda should put this engine in the MX-5. It's got a sort of Subaru throaty flat-4 throb to it.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 21, 2020, 05:30:00 PM
I would run premium in it all the time. It's not like it uses any gas.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on December 28, 2020, 03:01:11 PM
Coming up to three weeks with the CX-5. Still loving it. It uses more gas, but it's nice to have a car that warms up and has enough heat to give to the cabin. Unlike the Honda there's no "Eco" button with a little green leaf printed on it. Just "Sport" which bumps it a couple of levels up above the normal "Actually-Quite-Sporty-Already."


And brake feel. I love the brake feel. Perfectly modulated.


My main complaint is lack of center cubby & door pocket space in front. It's difficult to keep a discrete Glock in this thing.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: CaminoRacer on December 28, 2020, 07:03:41 PM
Center cubby, door pockets? Man I wish I had those in the Miata :lol:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on December 28, 2020, 07:12:01 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 28, 2020, 07:03:41 PM
Center cubby, door pockets? Man I wish I had those in the Miata :lol:

This doohickey will literally double your in-cabin storage. :lol: :cry:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2248535
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 28, 2020, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: Laconian on December 28, 2020, 07:12:01 PM
This doohickey will literally double your in-cabin storage. :lol: :cry:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2248535

LOL
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 28, 2020, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on December 28, 2020, 03:01:11 PM
It's difficult to keep a discrete Glock in this thing.

:mask:

I saw where they make safes for guns for trucks, I'm "SURE" the CX-5 demographic wants to carry too, right??....
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on December 28, 2020, 08:18:03 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on December 28, 2020, 07:38:43 PM
LOL

You know I'm not joking, right? ND doesn't even have a passenger glove compartment.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: shp4man on December 28, 2020, 08:40:30 PM
The NC has a cup holder in each door, a net storage pocket on both doors, like for papers, a decent glove box and a small storage area between the seats.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on December 28, 2020, 09:04:58 PM
Quote from: shp4man on December 28, 2020, 08:40:30 PM
The NC has a cup holder in each door, a net storage pocket on both doors, like for papers, a decent glove box and a small storage area between the seats.

The ND is a step down all around for storage. The cupholders are little freestanding metal modules which normally sit between the driver and passenger seats, but one of them can be relocated into the passenger footwell when the passenger isn't present. I'm sure all these things add up to some srs weight savings, but still, I'd have killed for them to keep the dashboard glove compartment!
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on January 01, 2021, 02:16:15 AM
I think I've figured out why to do for window tint: super-light 90 pc ceramic all round except the windshield. 90% transmission will cut heat and take the already 80% driver and passenger doors to 30pc blockage. Which is around the legal limit. Also helps with the missus' privacy.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 02, 2021, 07:39:57 PM
Quote from: Laconian on December 28, 2020, 09:04:58 PM
The ND is a step down all around for storage. The cupholders are little freestanding metal modules which normally sit between the driver and passenger seats, but one of them can be relocated into the passenger footwell when the passenger isn't present. I'm sure all these things add up to some srs weight savings, but still, I'd have killed for them to keep the dashboard glove compartment!

I have never locked the Miata doors so I don't keep anything but some napkins and a pencil in the glove box. I lock the registration etc... in the trunk.

But my glove box and center console don't lock either so.... 
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on January 02, 2021, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 01, 2021, 02:16:15 AM
I think I've figured out why to do for window tint: super-light 90 pc ceramic all round except the windshield. 90% transmission will cut heat and take the already 80% driver and passenger doors to 30pc blockage. Which is around the legal limit. Also helps with the missus' privacy.

Is that enough to allow her to communicate with her hands, e.g. at a four way stop? Really heavy tinting makes that tough..
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: CaminoRacer on January 02, 2021, 09:32:25 PM
Quote from: Laconian on January 02, 2021, 08:13:34 PM
Is that enough to allow her to communicate with her hands, e.g. at a four way stop? Really heavy tinting makes that tough..

Sometimes it's best for the hand gestures to be hidden :lol:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on January 02, 2021, 09:34:42 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on January 02, 2021, 09:32:25 PM
Sometimes it's best for the hand gestures to be hidden :lol:

Flipping the bird would at least break the infinite cycle of "no, you" :lol:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 03, 2021, 09:53:52 AM
Quote from: Laconian on January 02, 2021, 09:34:42 PM
Flipping the bird would at least break the infinite cycle of "no, you" :lol:

Sitting there and doing a burnout works, too
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on January 04, 2021, 04:28:23 AM
Discovered yesterday something else I like about the CX-5. It's got a real attention-getting two-tone horn. The Honda had a penny-pincher pathetic beep.

And C&D's Jan '21 issue has their 10 Best: the CX-5 is one of them (& so, I see, is the lovely Genesis GV80.)
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on January 12, 2021, 08:53:13 PM
I gave the CX-5 a chance sprint to a gallop this morning. She torque-steered me, the little minx.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on January 12, 2021, 08:54:40 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 12, 2021, 08:53:13 PM
I gave the CX-5 a chance sprint to a gallop this morning. She torque-steered me, the little minx.

AWD or FWD?
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on January 13, 2021, 04:45:55 AM
AWD. It definitely tugged & squirreled, I think on the 2nd-3rd upchange.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on January 13, 2021, 11:21:33 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 13, 2021, 04:45:55 AM
AWD. It definitely tugged & squirreled, I think on the 2nd-3rd upchange.

Wouldn't have happened on a Subie. :mrcool:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: FoMoJo on January 13, 2021, 11:49:10 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 13, 2021, 04:45:55 AM
AWD. It definitely tugged & squirreled, I think on the 2nd-3rd upchange.
Did you floor it?
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on January 13, 2021, 03:15:59 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 13, 2021, 11:49:10 AM
Did you floor it?
Not quite - throttle open 80-85%
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 13, 2021, 04:05:25 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 13, 2021, 03:15:59 PM
Not quite - throttle open 80-85%

You need to floor it and make sure the red line works. :lol:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on January 20, 2021, 03:06:44 PM
I was filling up this afternoon and contemplating the blanked-off filler for DEF, as used in diesel versions. It's a shame that Mazda have given up on diesel CX-5s in the US. They only sold 1,000 or so of them. Anyway I turned round and saw this in the trash bin next to the pump.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wxWKtP6C/IMG-2021.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/65TkC0qy/IMG-2022.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on January 20, 2021, 03:14:46 PM
A juice box of urine?
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on January 20, 2021, 03:51:47 PM
Quote from: Laconian on January 20, 2021, 03:14:46 PM
A juice box of urine?
Exactly - at truck stops it's sold at the pump - millions of gallons of pee.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 20, 2021, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Laconian on January 20, 2021, 03:14:46 PM
A juice box of urine?

Fermented urine.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: FoMoJo on January 20, 2021, 07:06:35 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 20, 2021, 03:06:44 PM
I was filling up this afternoon and contemplating the blanked-off filler for DEF, as used in diesel versions. It's a shame that Mazda have given up on diesel CX-5s in the US. They only sold 1,000 or so of them. Anyway I turned round and saw this in the trash bin next to the pump.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wxWKtP6C/IMG-2021.jpg)

Shouldn't they call it YellowDEF? :huh:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on March 04, 2021, 08:30:43 PM
Three months in I decided to check the tire pressures: 45-46 psi on all four.

Manufacturers over-inflate them at the factory for shipping to resist flat-spotting, from being strapped under tension for the long transits to dealers. Deflating them is part of the pre-check dealers carry out when the car arrives on the lot.

Mazda makes lovely cars but their dealers are pathetically worthless.

Now I feel guilty for not paranoid checking everything the moment I got home on purchase day - we've been driving on rock-hard tires on mountain roads all winter.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 05, 2021, 07:39:44 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Speed_Racer on March 12, 2021, 09:35:18 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on March 04, 2021, 08:30:43 PM
Three months in I decided to check the tire pressures: 45-46 psi on all four.

Manufacturers over-inflate them at the factory for shipping to resist flat-spotting, from being strapped under tension for the long transits to dealers. Deflating them is part of the pre-check dealers carry out when the car arrives on the lot.

Mazda makes lovely cars but their dealers are pathetically worthless.

Now I feel guilty for not paranoid checking everything the moment I got home on purchase day - we've been driving on rock-hard tires on mountain roads all winter.

Hah, I had my Suzuki in to a local dealer for a TSB, and when I went to pick it up they said "all your tires were way overinflated so we dropped them down for ya."

A few hundred yards from the dealer and my TPMS warning goes off. At home I check and they had dropped all four to 32psi. The car was set up for 38psi which they would have known had they checked the doorjamb sticker. :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on March 19, 2021, 06:13:07 AM
I wonder if they'll still be offering transmission flushes & spark plug replacements to unsuspecting owners of EVs. Maybe special "battery conditioning charges" or something.

Meantime the ride quality in the Mazda is a lot less flinty.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: MrH on March 19, 2021, 08:05:54 AM
I haven't met a Mazda dealership I liked.  All of them within 50 miles of me are terrible.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on March 19, 2021, 08:22:50 AM
Yup an otherwise lovely company, making great vehicles, with a dealer network that devotes its energies to undermining the whole enterprise.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: MrH on March 19, 2021, 08:25:11 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on March 19, 2021, 08:22:50 AM
Yup an otherwise lovely company, making great vehicles, with a dealer network that devotes its energies to undermining the whole enterprise.

I dream of the day my favorite dealer buys a Mazda franchise, but I don't think that's happening anytime soon.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: FoMoJo on March 19, 2021, 10:02:28 AM
Quote from: MrH on March 19, 2021, 08:05:54 AM
I haven't met a Mazda dealership I liked.  All of them within 50 miles of me are terrible.
Funny thing about Mazda dealers, a few years ago I was doing so cross-shopping and stopped at the Mazda dealer for pricing.  They seemed so rude/arrogant/pricks I just walked out.  Don't know what's the matter with them.  They need some training in good manners.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on April 18, 2021, 06:36:21 AM
You might choose to skip the rest but, oddly enough, the first 90 seconds in this are a good summation of Mazda and its niche status vs the big players.
The video pressed my buttons because I've just come back from the first long trip in mine: many miles on winding mountain roads. (Tennessee Highway 68 in particular - recommended)
It was an absolute blast: handling, poise, damping, throttle response, steering feel, a ton of torque, and a transmission that was always ready.

https://youtu.be/mwpzTnLC8BY
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on September 14, 2022, 12:31:21 PM
Bumping - because here's a thing. The CX-5 is a lovely car but it's got a bouncy jiggly ride. A corollary of a short wheelbase, suspension setup for handling, and a high center of gravity. The G37, with a 6"-longer wheelbase, is much better - even on its late middle-aged original shocks.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: CaminoRacer on September 14, 2022, 01:23:50 PM
I'd like to drive a CX-50 and CX-5 back to back and see if the CX-50's ride is softer. Supposedly it is, but idk by how much
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on September 14, 2022, 08:29:25 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 14, 2022, 01:23:50 PM
I'd like to drive a CX-50 and CX-5 back to back and see if the CX-50's ride is softer. Supposedly it is, but idk by how much
In the CX-5 there's this very slight fore-aft high frequency pitching - I can feel  bumping the back of my head into the head restraint. My hunch is that the big manufacturers would have engineered this out: juggling the tuning of seats, dampers, tires, & springs.

I'm so picky.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: FoMoJo on September 15, 2022, 05:54:06 AM
Porpoising?
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: MrH on September 15, 2022, 08:44:19 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on September 14, 2022, 08:29:25 PM
In the CX-5 there's this very slight fore-aft high frequency pitching - I can feel  bumping the back of my head into the head restraint. My hunch is that the big manufacturers would have engineered this out: juggling the tuning of seats, dampers, tires, & springs.

I'm so picky.

All the compact crossovers with relatively short wheelbases suffer the same kind of thing.  Have you driven cars from the "big manufacturers"? Mazda isn't at some disadvantage on this because of their size.

One of the reasons I think EV crossovers are kind of appealing.  Ioniq 5 has a silly long wheelbase for its general size.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: CaminoRacer on September 15, 2022, 09:31:38 AM
Quote from: MrH on September 15, 2022, 08:44:19 AM
One of the reasons I think EV crossovers are kind of appealing.  Ioniq 5 has a silly long wheelbase for its general size.

And the weight / weight distribution.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on September 15, 2022, 03:53:13 PM
Quote from: MrH on September 15, 2022, 08:44:19 AM
All the compact crossovers with relatively short wheelbases suffer the same kind of thing.  Have you driven cars from the "big manufacturers"? Mazda isn't at some disadvantage on this because of their size.

One of the reasons I think EV crossovers are kind of appealing.  Ioniq 5 has a silly long wheelbase for its general size.
Ridiculous other end of the spectrum but I drove a new top trim Tahoe a few months ago and it was a great ride. I think I'm also influenced by watching that Rare Classic Cars YouTube channel. Long wheelbase makes for a more comfortable ride. e.g. for a given early-70s platform Lincoln > Mercury > Ford wheelbase.
Size matters.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: giant_mtb on September 15, 2022, 04:08:00 PM
Wheelbase and weight. Very important.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: FoMoJo on September 15, 2022, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on September 15, 2022, 03:53:13 PM
Ridiculous other end of the spectrum but I drove a new top trim Tahoe a few months ago and it was a great ride. I think I'm also influenced by watching that Rare Classic Cars YouTube channel. Long wheelbase makes for a more comfortable ride. e.g. for a given early-70s platform Lincoln > Mercury > Ford wheelbase.
Size matters.
Great ride, lousy handling.  Braking wasn't very good either.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on November 15, 2022, 05:42:24 AM
Uh-oh - I was out the other day and my wife found oil drips on the floor in the bay where the CX-5 sits. Booked a slot with our (truly excellent) mobile mechanic but it was out beyond Thanksgiving. So I got a booking with the (truly mediocre) Mazda dealer service, for a slightly earlier slot, & canceled the booking with the mobile mechanic.

Mobile mechanic called me late yesterday afternoon "I saw your booking/cancelation, can I come over, since I was the last one working on the car & did that oil change?"
He showed up, got the car up on his lifts and found the oil filter he'd used had a defective seal. He put in another & all is okay.
I asked for the bill, "No charge, I sourced the part, I installed it, it's on me."

People in this area love him, trust levels are high; they let him work on their exotic cars.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: GoCougs on November 15, 2022, 01:39:51 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on September 15, 2022, 04:15:14 PM
Great ride, lousy handling.  Braking wasn't very good either.

With the weight, chassis (flex) and tires of the day, lousy handling was the only option. Stiffer suspension did little yet ride quality plummeted.

I'd also argue the cushy, floaty, quiet ride and one-finger steering is what people wanted. Today's cars can be rather miserable in comparison, including seat comfort.

My new(ish) car has air suspension, and it's the only thing I could find that was palatable, outside of a boaty Lexus.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on November 15, 2022, 02:29:27 PM
My tolerance for NVH and bumpy rides has gone down with age. I'm old. If you do a lot of highway driving a quiet comfortable luxoglide is the way to go.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: MrH on November 15, 2022, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on September 15, 2022, 03:53:13 PM
Ridiculous other end of the spectrum but I drove a new top trim Tahoe a few months ago and it was a great ride. I think I'm also influenced by watching that Rare Classic Cars YouTube channel. Long wheelbase makes for a more comfortable ride. e.g. for a given early-70s platform Lincoln > Mercury > Ford wheelbase.
Size matters.

Yeah, giant body on frame vehicles are a different animal.  I was making that comment more in regards to other players in that segment.  The big OEMs don't have a secret sauce to make their compact crossovers ride appreciably better.  An Escape or Equinox will ride equally as bad, if not worse I'm sure.

You can mask some of that with air ride and adaptive dampers, but long wheelbases changes the game a bit.  That's a big reason why I'm excited for EVs.  Everything changes quite a bit from a layout perspective when you change powertrains like that.

Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: SVT_Power on November 16, 2022, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on September 15, 2022, 03:53:13 PM
Ridiculous other end of the spectrum but I drove a new top trim Tahoe a few months ago and it was a great ride. I think I'm also influenced by watching that Rare Classic Cars YouTube channel. Long wheelbase makes for a more comfortable ride. e.g. for a given early-70s platform Lincoln > Mercury > Ford wheelbase.
Size matters.

Time for you to get a Ram 1500.

Mine has a 144" wheelbase I think. Even without the air suspension, rides great  :lol:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on November 17, 2022, 04:56:42 AM
Quote from: SVT_Power on November 16, 2022, 10:25:29 PM
Time for you to get a Ram 1500.

Mine has a 144" wheelbase I think. Even without the air suspension, rides great  :lol:
The people who lived across the street have one (with the diesel) - they love it.
Also another neighbor has one - gasoline V8 - really nice too.
I'm seeing teasers for the Mazda CX-90; it has an I6 - so that might be worth a look.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on December 28, 2022, 06:51:48 PM
Last night - just as we really were needing CarPlay, the infotainment system blanked out. Pulled off the highway - restarted the car - nothing. This morning I finally found the button combination that worked to do a soft reset which, thankfully worked. It turns out the car's system software is way out of date, which is surprising given that it's supposed to do so automatically OTA. It also turns out that the automatic OTA thing is worthless.
How to remedy? Well you are supposed to take it to a dealer, who will charge you to manually do something that is supposed to happen automatically. Or, you can get someone to send the update file to you, which you (or a trained chimp) load onto a FAT32-formatted USB stick and go through the routine.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: CaminoRacer on January 01, 2023, 09:25:46 PM
Interesting. I don't think my 2016 infotainment ever updates. I'm okay with that since it hasn't had any issues.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on January 02, 2023, 06:13:49 AM
Five minutes of "Am I bricking this thing?" puckering anxiety.

(https://i.postimg.cc/NM4NwmdL/5-D6874-E2-C0-B3-4-DF4-91-F2-A94-CFD2-E56-BE.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d3N4hvPY/B5572-EC5-0-E90-43-D1-AA70-A3-E08-DCB971-C.jpg)

Success
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJ4BRJck/20-A79523-F418-4-DB3-A4-AD-EEEDBC1-E6456.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: MrH on January 02, 2023, 07:31:11 AM
Love the Oregon Trail style font while upgrading :lol:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: CaminoRacer on January 02, 2023, 10:17:45 AM
Yes that font is fantastic lol
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on January 02, 2023, 12:36:17 PM
I develop an irrational fear of random power outages whenever I flash firmware.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: CaminoRacer on January 02, 2023, 12:47:46 PM
Quote from: Laconian on January 02, 2023, 12:36:17 PM
I develop an irrational fear of random power outages whenever I flash firmware.

When tuning an ECU it's recommended to put the battery on a tender/charger. I'd maybe do the same for updating the infotainment.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 03, 2023, 05:31:16 AM
Lol my stereo had an update early on that got stuck on 100% for 10+ minutes. I waited for it but people who power cycled they're had to send them in!!!?!?!?!!!!
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 03, 2023, 05:32:13 AM
Quote from: Laconian on January 02, 2023, 12:36:17 PM
I develop an irrational fear of random power outages whenever I flash firmware.

Totally NOT irrational!
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on January 03, 2023, 07:18:44 AM
You have to do do this with the ignition in Accessory mode, which normally has a timeout countdown to shut off after a few minutes. The timer is disabled for the duration of the update process.

Initial impression is that it's much snappier jumping into CarPlay and resuming where it left off after fueling stops/potty breaks. Time will tell what new bugs have been introduced.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: MrH on January 03, 2023, 07:39:53 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on January 02, 2023, 12:47:46 PM
When tuning an ECU it's recommended to put the battery on a tender/charger. I'd maybe do the same for updating the infotainment.

Subaru just tells you to run the car the entire time.  Neighbors probably wonder what I'm doing every few months leaving the car running for 15-20 minutes in the driveway.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 03, 2023, 02:58:30 PM
Quote from: MrH on January 03, 2023, 07:39:53 AM
Subaru just tells you to run the car the entire time.  Neighbors probably wonder what I'm doing every few months leaving the car running for 15-20 minutes in the driveway.

Every. Few. Months? :confused:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: MrH on January 03, 2023, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on January 03, 2023, 02:58:30 PM
Every. Few. Months? :confused:

The Outback infotainment has been an adventure to say the least :lol:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 03, 2023, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: Laconian on January 02, 2023, 12:36:17 PM
I develop an irrational fear of random power outages whenever I flash firmware.

Not irrational.

Hell, there have been Rockwell firmware changes that have bricked $10,000 controllers and shut down lines.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 03, 2023, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: MrH on January 03, 2023, 03:14:57 PM
The Outback infotainment has been an adventure to say the least :lol:

That's wild, they should work on fixes and do at most an update every quarter/ 6 months/ or year.....
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: MrH on January 04, 2023, 07:14:15 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on January 03, 2023, 08:35:37 PM
That's wild, they should work on fixes and do at most an update every quarter/ 6 months/ or year.....

I guess every few months is a bit of an exaggeration.  There have been 7 updates since I got the car 3 years ago, and an 8th should be coming here soon.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on January 04, 2023, 09:23:40 AM
I found a bug. That didn't take long, did it?
🐛 🦟 🐛 🕷 🐛 🦟 🐛 🕷 🐛 🦟 🐛 🕷 🐛 🦟 🐛 🕷
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 04, 2023, 07:33:56 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 04, 2023, 09:23:40 AM
I found a bug. That didn't take long, did it?

       
  • You're parked & you set a route in Google or Apple Maps.
  • You back out of the space - screen goes to rear camera.
  • Put it in Drive to to begin the journey.
  • New feature is screen returns to CarPlay home screen, instead of the map app.
🐛 🦟 🐛 🕷 🐛 🦟 🐛 🕷 🐛 🦟 🐛 🕷 🐛 🦟 🐛 🕷

DOH
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on June 18, 2023, 05:14:31 AM
OEM tires are horrible: 22,000 miles and they are down to the wear bars. We don't even drive aggressively.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 18, 2023, 05:27:29 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 18, 2023, 05:14:31 AMOEM tires are horrible: 22,000 miles and they are down to the wear bars. We don't even drive aggressively.

Is there a tire warranty?
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: giant_mtb on June 18, 2023, 11:24:19 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 18, 2023, 05:14:31 AMOEM tires are horrible: 22,000 miles and they are down to the wear bars. We don't even drive aggressively.

Sounds about right. OE tires always seem to wear out extra quick. Pretty sure OE-spec tires come with shallower tread depth.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on June 27, 2023, 01:40:00 PM
Okay - new tires are on: 4 X Michelin CrossClimate2. Rides quieter, feels much better & more planted.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on June 29, 2023, 09:16:47 AM
Tire pressures were all over the place. How many extra seconds does it take tire fitters to at least get the PSIs in the same ZIP code?
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: RomanChariot on June 29, 2023, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 29, 2023, 09:16:47 AMTire pressures were all over the place. How many extra seconds does it take tire fitters to at least get the PSIs in the same ZIP code?

I like the tire shop that I go to but on my wife's Pilot they always set the tire pressure 5psi high. They don't seem to do that with our other cars so it must be something wrong in their system. At least they always set all 4 tires to the same pressure.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 29, 2023, 06:36:17 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 29, 2023, 09:16:47 AMTire pressures were all over the place. How many extra seconds does it take tire fitters to at least get the PSIs in the same ZIP code?

Lolz
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 29, 2023, 06:39:57 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 29, 2023, 09:16:47 AMTire pressures were all over the place. How many extra seconds does it take tire fitters to at least get the PSIs in the same ZIP code?

It's hard. It takes at least an extra 90 seconds to set the tire pressures.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on October 24, 2023, 05:45:18 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/VvR0sv8k/IMG-2790.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: r0tor on October 24, 2023, 08:13:38 AM
That is not going to buff out
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: FoMoJo on October 24, 2023, 11:12:00 AM
I'd be curious about what quotes are for the repair.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on October 24, 2023, 05:20:35 PM
I had a look behind the bumper skin and the crush can is undamaged (airbags did not pop obv) so hopefully nothing structural. But it needs a new hood, bumper, fender, headlight, & grill at the very least.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on October 24, 2023, 05:44:43 PM
Eeek. Sorry to see it. Is your shop up to the task of matching the paint? I've heard that the fancy mirror flake coats are a little tough to do right.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: SVT_Power on October 24, 2023, 10:11:47 PM
Quote from: Laconian on October 24, 2023, 05:44:43 PMEeek. Sorry to see it. Is your shop up to the task of matching the paint? I've heard that the fancy mirror flake coats are a little tough to do right.

That Mazda red sure is pretty though
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on October 24, 2023, 10:14:21 PM
It definitely is!
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 25, 2023, 08:58:17 AM
Seriously LOVE soul red.

Considering it if I ever get Scrappy painted.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on October 25, 2023, 01:55:46 PM
Quote from: Laconian on October 24, 2023, 05:44:43 PMEeek. Sorry to see it. Is your shop up to the task of matching the paint? I've heard that the fancy mirror flake coats are a little tough to do right.
I've asked for estimates from two shops. One is that on the insurance company's list, the other is a Mazda-approved shop closer into Atlanta. I'll start asking questions about the paint when I get the estimates.

The Soul Red is great an elicits lots of comments but it is infamously thin and brittle, there are several tiny chips exposing the undercoat in the hood already. It does not compare well to the Infiniti, which is 11 years older.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Madman on October 28, 2023, 10:57:45 PM

Ouch!  I hope nobody was hurt?


Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on October 30, 2023, 05:03:59 AM
Quote from: Madman on October 28, 2023, 10:57:45 PMOuch!  I hope nobody was hurt?



Nobody hurt. The other guy was very affable and did a great job at concealing his anger at having had the back bumper of his Volvo XC90 ripped off. I felt like such a fuckwit.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on October 30, 2023, 05:07:15 AM
This doesn't fill me with warm fuzzy confidence should this car ever get rear-ended. Look at photo 3/3.

Headrest ripped out of seat from accident
https://www.reddit.com/r/CX5/comments/17hg6qn/headrest_ripped_out_of_seat_from_accident/
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 01, 2023, 03:41:53 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on October 30, 2023, 05:07:15 AMThis doesn't fill me with warm fuzzy confidence should this car ever get rear-ended. Look at photo 3/3.

Headrest ripped out of seat from accident
https://www.reddit.com/r/CX5/comments/17hg6qn/headrest_ripped_out_of_seat_from_accident/

Airbags and everything else are designed for front or collision, not rear.

Probably time to consider that- idiot drivers are getting more idiotic...
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on November 01, 2023, 05:07:48 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 01, 2023, 03:41:53 AMAirbags and everything else are designed for front or collision, not rear.

Probably time to consider that- idiot drivers are getting more idiotic...
Yeah I don't know why he thought airbags should pop from a rear collision. But the head restraint failure worried me.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Rich on November 01, 2023, 08:53:33 AM
You and Giant feel bad about your hits.

Hold my beer. I'll make a post later
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: MrH on November 01, 2023, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: Rich on November 01, 2023, 08:53:33 AMYou and Giant feel bad about your hits.

Hold my beer. I'll make a post later

 :cry:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: CaminoRacer on November 01, 2023, 09:53:23 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on October 30, 2023, 05:07:15 AMThis doesn't fill me with warm fuzzy confidence should this car ever get rear-ended. Look at photo 3/3.

Headrest ripped out of seat from accident
https://www.reddit.com/r/CX5/comments/17hg6qn/headrest_ripped_out_of_seat_from_accident/

I'd be curious to see an interior dashcam of what happened. Seems really strange. Did it snap off from his head hitting it?
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: CaminoRacer on November 01, 2023, 09:54:04 AM
Quote from: Rich on November 01, 2023, 08:53:33 AMYou and Giant feel bad about your hits.

Hold my beer. I'll make a post later

Oh boy... If it's bad, you can buy my ND. It's fixed!
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 01, 2023, 11:07:20 AM
Quote from: Rich on November 01, 2023, 08:53:33 AMYou and Giant feel bad about your hits.

Hold my beer. I'll make a post later

 :cry:
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Laconian on November 01, 2023, 01:07:45 PM
Quote from: Rich on November 01, 2023, 08:53:33 AMYou and Giant feel bad about your hits.

Hold my beer. I'll make a post later

Oh crap...
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on November 04, 2023, 01:43:15 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 01, 2023, 09:53:23 AMI'd be curious to see an interior dashcam of what happened. Seems really strange. Did it snap off from his head hitting it?
That's what he claims.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: Morris Minor on December 21, 2023, 08:11:38 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on October 24, 2023, 05:45:18 AM(https://i.postimg.cc/VvR0sv8k/IMG-2790.jpg)
It's been a long drawn-out business but we got our car back today. The delay was mostly because of parts availability problems. They could not find a new lower bumper skin, so I gave them the go ahead buy used. It's perfect but for a barely noticeable scuff on the spoiler lip - right down low; they knocked $200 off the bill. They've done a great job though - can't believe how their paint guy managed the match - but he did. 

I'd almost forgotten how much of a pleasure it is to drive this thing. Very different to the wheezy asthmatic rental 4Runner, which I will not miss.
Title: Re: 2021 Mazda CX-5
Post by: CaminoRacer on December 21, 2023, 09:23:42 PM
Good to hear the paint was matched well. I think it's no longer an issue for good shops. People always said that when the color first came out, but I think it's pretty well-known now