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There are some folks who have stuffed the 333hp motor out of the last M3 into the 2002....tres chic!
I could have guessed that.
:confused:
I'm revoking your car lovers' license.
E92 3er is one of my favorite BMWs of all time.
I love the 2002s but it's not like I'd wanna drive one all the time. There's nothing it does better.
Ah, you've just proven that you've no taste. The E92 is one of your favorite BMWs of all time? It's an abomination, just on styling alone.
Oh, right. It says BMW on it. That's why it's so amazing.
It reminds me too much of a 70's Honda.
Has anyone ever told you you're a troll?
Oh well, there's a first time for everything.
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
Finally somebody agrees with me
I'm not a troll. There are BMWs that are great. They just don't seem to make them anymore.
:rockon:
and how many of these new BMW's have you driven? Its just that while you've never driven a 335i you rip it apart while the automotive press who has driven it seems to enjoy it.
Yes you are. You used to have a lot of interesting and informative posts on here but now most of it is something along the lines of..
"I hate ______".
"You're an idiot for liking ________"
"_______ Sucks"
"I disagree with you about _______ and therefore you're an idiot/tasteless"
Apparently there's some sort of god complex to go with it because your fallacy-loaded opinions about subjective matter can never be wrong. That's not called being opinionated or arrogant, that's called being a douchebag. We're here to discuss cars and talk about cars, we're not here to debate with you why we're idiots and you're not.
I wish we had a fucking ignore button on this forum but we don't. Whatever, I'll just ignore you anyways.
Of course they enjoy the new one. Doesn't mean that they wouldn't enjoy the old one more for giving a more pure driving experience. There are a lot of things a new car does well, but most of them are isolating you from the driving experience (well, except to give the old throwback to a manual transmission for the whiners that think that's the only thing that means you're in control of a car with).
I love my 7 series, but it's not as involving as a 2002 by far. I HAD a 2002. I also had an early 320i (aka the German Pinto). I my opinion, the new BMWs have gone away from what made BMW great, and driving a good 2002 back to back with a new 335 will show that, even though the 335 is faster. technically faster isn't everything, otherwise you'd like technically faster automatic transmissions.
There is capability.
And then there is involvement.
To anyone who doesn't understand the difference, I suggest this.
Find a Fiat 500 Abarth. Or a Porsche 356. Or a Morris Minor.
Then drive one.
I never said that the 2002 was involving to drive, or that the 335i was more involving to drive than it is.
You assume much.
It has to do with where your priorities lie.
How do I assume too much? I was responding to Raza because he always rips apart BMW's even one's that he has never driven. How can you say that the 335i isn't any good or isn't involving if you've never driven one? The fact that the automotive press seems to enjoy it makes it even more of a brazen statement.
First, because I have driven one. I've also driven the other.
And second, the 335i is a damned good vehicle. If I were in the automotive press I'd have good things to say about it too.
But I don't want one. I should probably want one if I were just to look at its spec sheet. But I don't drive a spec sheet.
Thats not much different than what I have been saying. All i said is how can you rip apart a vehicle you've never driven, especialy when all you here are positive reviews from the automotive press? :huh:
The automotive press is usually only comparing new cars to new cars.
I'll bet you dollars to donuts that any of them that haven't had the sould already bleached out of them by phrases like 'five-star safety ratings" and "best-in-class rear seat legroom" would agree with a lot that Raza is saying about new cars vs. older cars.
I never had a problem with anyone with anyone voting for the 2002. Once again, all I said is how can you say that a 335i is a bad car if you've never driven it and there are dozens of reviews from the press that say otherwise?
Doesn't that apply to all cars then?
Question: Which one?
Option 1: 1977 (well, the one pictured is a '75, but deal with ) BMW 2002 tii 
Option 2: 2007 BMW 335i 
Title: Then v. Now 9
Post by: J86 on May 04, 2007, 06:28:25 PM
Post by: J86 on May 04, 2007, 06:28:25 PM
I love these then v now things :lol:
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Raza on May 04, 2007, 06:33:24 PM
Post by: Raza on May 04, 2007, 06:33:24 PM
It's really more like the 2002 Turbo, but, either way, I'm going with the precocious 2002.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: the Teuton on May 04, 2007, 07:50:34 PM
Post by: the Teuton on May 04, 2007, 07:50:34 PM
I voted for the 2002, but the 335i is almost as tempting (better DD).
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: J86 on May 04, 2007, 08:10:10 PM
Post by: J86 on May 04, 2007, 08:10:10 PM
Yah, but the 2002 is soooooooo cool.
There's a green one that runs around town at home with Hella rally lights and roofracks, I want it so badly!
Come to think of it, there are a TON of 2002s at home.
There's a green one that runs around town at home with Hella rally lights and roofracks, I want it so badly!
Come to think of it, there are a TON of 2002s at home.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: the Teuton on May 04, 2007, 08:17:05 PM
Post by: the Teuton on May 04, 2007, 08:17:05 PM
I haven't seen a 2002 in a long time, but knowing how much I like the E30, I would probably find the 2002 just as cool, if not cooler.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Raghavan on May 04, 2007, 08:36:38 PM
Post by: Raghavan on May 04, 2007, 08:36:38 PM
2002 for me.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Payman on May 04, 2007, 09:10:01 PM
Post by: Payman on May 04, 2007, 09:10:01 PM
I'd love a 2002... with a 335i engine. :ohyeah:
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: J86 on May 04, 2007, 09:13:33 PM
Post by: J86 on May 04, 2007, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: Payman on May 04, 2007, 09:10:01 PM
I'd love a 2002... with a 335i engine.? :ohyeah:
There are some folks who have stuffed the 333hp motor out of the last M3 into the 2002....tres chic!
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: The Pirate on May 04, 2007, 09:27:35 PM
Post by: The Pirate on May 04, 2007, 09:27:35 PM
2002 here
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: SVT666 on May 04, 2007, 09:33:15 PM
Post by: SVT666 on May 04, 2007, 09:33:15 PM
new one.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: CMan on May 04, 2007, 10:08:11 PM
Post by: CMan on May 04, 2007, 10:08:11 PM
335i all the way.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: 850CSi on May 05, 2007, 01:24:17 AM
Post by: 850CSi on May 05, 2007, 01:24:17 AM
Tough one, but I'd rather have the 335.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: goldenlover1101 on May 05, 2007, 05:42:33 AM
Post by: goldenlover1101 on May 05, 2007, 05:42:33 AM
335 for me. The one in the pic looks bad ass. I do love the 2002 though
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: JYODER240 on May 05, 2007, 07:22:14 AM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 05, 2007, 07:22:14 AM
The only thing I know about the 2002 was that it was the first turbocharged BMW. My uneducated pick is the 335i.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Raza on May 05, 2007, 09:12:38 AM
Post by: Raza on May 05, 2007, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: 850CSi on May 05, 2007, 01:24:17 AM
Tough one, but I'd rather have the 335.
I could have guessed that.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: ro51092 on May 05, 2007, 09:47:06 AM
Post by: ro51092 on May 05, 2007, 09:47:06 AM
The 2002tii is the ESSENCE of BMW. That's my pick.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: TheIntrepid on May 05, 2007, 12:05:04 PM
Post by: TheIntrepid on May 05, 2007, 12:05:04 PM
335i
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: sandertheshark on May 05, 2007, 12:18:56 PM
Post by: sandertheshark on May 05, 2007, 12:18:56 PM
OH GOD Don't make me choose!! :banghead:
2002 turbo as a collector car, 335i as a daily driver.
2002 turbo as a collector car, 335i as a daily driver.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: 1 BAD 7 on May 05, 2007, 12:59:18 PM
Post by: 1 BAD 7 on May 05, 2007, 12:59:18 PM
Give me the 335i :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: omicron on May 05, 2007, 01:44:08 PM
Post by: omicron on May 05, 2007, 01:44:08 PM
2000000000000000002 for me.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: chevyguy06 on May 05, 2007, 06:55:04 PM
Post by: chevyguy06 on May 05, 2007, 06:55:04 PM
335i...the 2002 is fugly.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: sportyaccordy on May 05, 2007, 10:48:14 PM
Post by: sportyaccordy on May 05, 2007, 10:48:14 PM
2002 easily, just to piss off my parents.
Plus, the 335i looks thoroughly Japanese. I'd rather save my money and get the G35/G37 coupe.
Plus, the 335i looks thoroughly Japanese. I'd rather save my money and get the G35/G37 coupe.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Raza on May 05, 2007, 10:51:18 PM
Post by: Raza on May 05, 2007, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: chevyguy06 on May 05, 2007, 06:55:04 PM
335i...the 2002 is fugly.
:confused:
I'm revoking your car lovers' license.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: sandertheshark on May 05, 2007, 11:02:29 PM
Post by: sandertheshark on May 05, 2007, 11:02:29 PM
Quote from: chevyguy06 on May 05, 2007, 06:55:04 PM
335i...the 2002 is fugly.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on May 05, 2007, 10:48:14 PMYou bothe of yoiu need therapy.
Plus, the 335i looks thoroughly Japanese. I'd rather save my money and get the G35/G37 coupe.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: 850CSi on May 05, 2007, 11:22:37 PM
Post by: 850CSi on May 05, 2007, 11:22:37 PM
Quote from: Raza ?link=topic=8934.msg438714#msg438714 date=1178377958
I could have guessed that.
E92 3er is one of my favorite BMWs of all time.
I love the 2002s but it's not like I'd wanna drive one all the time. There's nothing it does better.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Raza on May 06, 2007, 10:02:35 AM
Post by: Raza on May 06, 2007, 10:02:35 AM
Quote from: 850CSi on May 05, 2007, 11:22:37 PM
E92 3er is one of my favorite BMWs of all time.
I love the 2002s but it's not like I'd wanna drive one all the time. There's nothing it does better.
Ah, you've just proven that you've no taste. The E92 is one of your favorite BMWs of all time? It's an abomination, just on styling alone.
Oh, right. It says BMW on it. That's why it's so amazing.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: heelntoe on May 06, 2007, 10:08:26 AM
Post by: heelntoe on May 06, 2007, 10:08:26 AM
2002!
hold on a minute while i dig into my bookmarks.
hold on a minute while i dig into my bookmarks.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: JYODER240 on May 06, 2007, 10:09:50 AM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 06, 2007, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: Raza ?link=topic=8934.msg440138#msg440138 date=1178467355
? Oh, right.? It says BMW on it.? That's whyit's so amazingI hate it.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Raza on May 06, 2007, 10:12:19 AM
Post by: Raza on May 06, 2007, 10:12:19 AM
Wrong again, Jordan. The 2002 is a BMW. The E30 and E36 are BMWs. The E34 and E39, also BMWs. I'm sure there were other BMWs that aren't shit ugly and overly computerized as well.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: heelntoe on May 06, 2007, 10:16:02 AM
Post by: heelntoe on May 06, 2007, 10:16:02 AM
http://www.my2002tii.com/
:wub:
:wub:
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: chevyguy06 on May 06, 2007, 10:36:03 AM
Post by: chevyguy06 on May 06, 2007, 10:36:03 AM
Quote from: Raza on May 05, 2007, 10:51:18 PM
:confused:
I'm revoking your car lovers' license.
It reminds me too much of a 70's Honda.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: 850CSi on May 07, 2007, 01:10:25 AM
Post by: 850CSi on May 07, 2007, 01:10:25 AM
Quote from: Raza ?link=topic=8934.msg440138#msg440138 date=1178467355
Ah, you've just proven that you've no taste.?
Has anyone ever told you you're a troll?
Oh well, there's a first time for everything.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: 850CSi on May 07, 2007, 01:11:34 AM
Post by: 850CSi on May 07, 2007, 01:11:34 AM
Quote from: heelntoe on May 06, 2007, 10:16:02 AM
http://www.my2002tii.com/
:wub:
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: SVT_Power on May 07, 2007, 01:22:09 AM
Post by: SVT_Power on May 07, 2007, 01:22:09 AM
Quote from: Raza on May 06, 2007, 10:02:35 AM
Ah, you've just proven that you've no taste. The E92 is one of your favorite BMWs of all time? It's an abomination, just on styling alone.
Finally somebody agrees with me
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Onslaught on May 07, 2007, 05:45:34 AM
Post by: Onslaught on May 07, 2007, 05:45:34 AM
My good friend in high school had a 2002tii and that car was a blast. 2002 for me.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: ChrisV on May 07, 2007, 07:45:11 AM
Post by: ChrisV on May 07, 2007, 07:45:11 AM
I find it amusing that some people here that would rather have the new one over the old one are also the same people that require a manual transmission as it makes the car more involving. On that criteria alone, the 2002 has it all over the 335. It's VASTLY more involving to drive. You want to know what the 2002 does better than the 335? Drive them both. the 335 is faster, but the 2002 is simply more fun, more involving, and you feel more connected to both the car AND the road. There's no electronic nannery between you and the components of the car in a 2002.
And any good car enthusiast who finds these little performance cars ugly needs mental help, because they simply don't know what they are looking at. You need to really think about how your sense of aesthetics developed, because it's misfiring. :lol:
(http://webhome.idirect.com/~rharring/jm8i1036.jpg)
(http://www.schusterphoto.com/gin023.jpg)
And any good car enthusiast who finds these little performance cars ugly needs mental help, because they simply don't know what they are looking at. You need to really think about how your sense of aesthetics developed, because it's misfiring. :lol:
(http://webhome.idirect.com/~rharring/jm8i1036.jpg)
(http://www.schusterphoto.com/gin023.jpg)
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: omicron on May 07, 2007, 07:47:52 AM
Post by: omicron on May 07, 2007, 07:47:52 AM
The 2002 makes falling-apart noises, and snorting, snarling, lumpy noises, and tyres screeching noises, and dashboard-falling-off noises, and angry noises.
Wonderful noises. :wub:
Wonderful noises. :wub:
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Raza on May 07, 2007, 09:38:32 AM
Post by: Raza on May 07, 2007, 09:38:32 AM
Quote from: 850CSi on May 07, 2007, 01:10:25 AM
Has anyone ever told you you're a troll?
Oh well, there's a first time for everything.
I'm not a troll. There are BMWs that are great. They just don't seem to make them anymore.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Raza on May 07, 2007, 09:39:11 AM
Post by: Raza on May 07, 2007, 09:39:11 AM
Quote from: ChrisV on May 07, 2007, 07:45:11 AM
I find it amusing that some people here that would rather have the new one over the old one are also the same people that require a manual transmission as it makes the car more involving. On that criteria alone, the 2002 has it all over the 335. It's VASTLY more involving to drive. You want to know what the 2002 does better than the 335? Drive them both. the 335 is faster, but the 2002 is simply more fun, more involving, and you feel more connected to both the car AND the road. There's no electronic nannery between you and the components of the car in a 2002.
And any good car enthusiast who finds these little performance cars ugly needs mental help, because they simply don't know what they are looking at. You need to really think about how your sense of aesthetics developed, because it's misfiring. :lol:
:rockon:
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 10:28:41 AM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: Raza ?link=topic=8934.msg441161#msg441161 date=1178552312
I'm not a troll.? There are BMWs that are great.? They just don't seem to make them anymore.
and how many of these new BMW's have you driven? Its just that while you've never driven a 335i you rip it apart while the automotive press who has driven it seems to enjoy it.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Raghavan on May 07, 2007, 10:30:56 AM
Post by: Raghavan on May 07, 2007, 10:30:56 AM
Quote from: chevyguy06 on May 05, 2007, 06:55:04 PM:cry: :nono:
335i...the 2002 is fugly.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: 850CSi on May 07, 2007, 10:36:15 AM
Post by: 850CSi on May 07, 2007, 10:36:15 AM
Quote from: Raza ?link=topic=8934.msg441161#msg441161 date=1178552312
I'm not a troll.? There are BMWs that are great.? They just don't seem to make them anymore.
Yes you are. You used to have a lot of interesting and informative posts on here but now most of it is something along the lines of..
"I hate ______".
"You're an idiot for liking ________"
"_______ Sucks"
"I disagree with you about _______ and therefore you're an idiot/tasteless"
Apparently there's some sort of god complex to go with it because your fallacy-loaded opinions about subjective matter can never be wrong. That's not called being opinionated or arrogant, that's called being a douchebag. We're here to discuss cars and talk about cars, we're not here to debate with you why we're idiots and you're not.
I wish we had a fucking ignore button on this forum but we don't. Whatever, I'll just ignore you anyways.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: ChrisV on May 07, 2007, 01:34:57 PM
Post by: ChrisV on May 07, 2007, 01:34:57 PM
Quote from: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 10:28:41 AM
and how many of these new BMW's have you driven? Its just that while you've never driven a 335i you rip it apart while the automotive press who has driven it seems to enjoy it.
Of course they enjoy the new one. Doesn't mean that they wouldn't enjoy the old one more for giving a more pure driving experience. There are a lot of things a new car does well, but most of them are isolating you from the driving experience (well, except to give the old throwback to a manual transmission for the whiners that think that's the only thing that means you're in control of a car with).
I love my 7 series, but it's not as involving as a 2002 by far. I HAD a 2002. I also had an early 320i (aka the German Pinto). I my opinion, the new BMWs have gone away from what made BMW great, and driving a good 2002 back to back with a new 335 will show that, even though the 335 is faster. technically faster isn't everything, otherwise you'd like technically faster automatic transmissions.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on May 07, 2007, 02:10:28 PM
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on May 07, 2007, 02:10:28 PM
As an only car, 335i; as a second car, 2002tii all the way.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: sandertheshark on May 07, 2007, 06:07:26 PM
Post by: sandertheshark on May 07, 2007, 06:07:26 PM
I think I might want to do this: http://homepage.mac.com/iandickerson/M2002/M2_engine.html
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: LonghornTX on May 07, 2007, 06:25:12 PM
Post by: LonghornTX on May 07, 2007, 06:25:12 PM
The 2002 by a longshot. It is the epitome of BMW. Though, I do like the 335i.
BTW, the Turbo model probably would have been a more fitting comparison IMO.
BTW, the Turbo model probably would have been a more fitting comparison IMO.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:00:12 PM
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:00:12 PM
Quote from: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 10:28:41 AM
and how many of these new BMW's have you driven? Its just that while you've never driven a 335i you rip it apart while the automotive press who has driven it seems to enjoy it.
There is capability.
And then there is involvement.
To anyone who doesn't understand the difference, I suggest this.
Find a Fiat 500 Abarth. Or a Porsche 356. Or a Morris Minor.
Then drive one.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:05:34 PM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:05:34 PM
When did I ever say that the 2002 wasn't involving or fun to drive? Or even that the 335i was more involving or fun? All I ever said is how can you say that the 335i (or current BMW's in this case) isn't involving or fun to drive when you've never driven one? Especialy when the automotive press who has driven it, enjoys it.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:07:11 PM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: ChrisV on May 07, 2007, 01:34:57 PM
Of course they enjoy the new one. Doesn't mean that they wouldn't enjoy the old one more for giving a more pure driving experience. There are a lot of things a new car does well, but most of them are isolating you from the driving experience (well, except to give the old throwback to a manual transmission for the whiners that think that's the only thing that means you're in control of a car with).
I love my 7 series, but it's not as involving as a 2002 by far. I HAD a 2002. I also had an early 320i (aka the German Pinto). I my opinion, the new BMWs have gone away from what made BMW great, and driving a good 2002 back to back with a new 335 will show that, even though the 335 is faster. technically faster isn't everything, otherwise you'd like technically faster automatic transmissions.
I never said that the 2002 was involving to drive, or that the 335i was more involving to drive than it is.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:09:39 PM
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:09:39 PM
Quote from: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:05:34 PM
When did I ever say that the 2002 wasn't involving or fun to drive? Or even that the 335i was more involving or fun? All I ever said is how can you say that the 335i (or current BMW's in this case) isn't involving or fun to drive when you've never driven one? Especialy when the automotive press who has driven it, enjoys it.
You assume much.
It has to do with where your priorities lie.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:13:56 PM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:13:56 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:09:39 PM
You assume much.
It has to do with where your priorities lie.
How do I assume too much? I was responding to Raza because he always rips apart BMW's even one's that he has never driven. How can you say that the 335i isn't any good or isn't involving if you've never driven one? The fact that the automotive press seems to enjoy it makes it even more of a brazen statement.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:18:59 PM
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:18:59 PM
Quote from: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:13:56 PM
How do I assume too much? I was responding to Raza because he always rips apart BMW's even one's that he has never driven. How can you say that the 335i isn't any good or isn't involving if you've never driven one? The fact that the automotive press seems to enjoy it makes it even more of a brazen statement.
First, because I have driven one. I've also driven the other.
And second, the 335i is a damned good vehicle. If I were in the automotive press I'd have good things to say about it too.
But I don't want one. I should probably want one if I were just to look at its spec sheet. But I don't drive a spec sheet.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:28:50 PM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:28:50 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:18:59 PM
First, because I have driven one. I've also driven the other.
And second, the 335i is a damned good vehicle. If I were in the automotive press I'd have good things to say about it too.
But I don't want one. I should probably want one if I were just to look at its spec sheet. But I don't drive a spec sheet.
Thats not much different than what I have been saying. All i said is how can you rip apart a vehicle you've never driven, especialy when all you here are positive reviews from the automotive press? :huh:
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:32:59 PM
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:32:59 PM
Quote from: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:28:50 PM
Thats not much different than what I have been saying. All i said is how can you rip apart a vehicle you've never driven, especialy when all you here are positive reviews from the automotive press? :huh:? ?
The automotive press is usually only comparing new cars to new cars.
I'll bet you dollars to donuts that any of them that haven't had the sould already bleached out of them by phrases like 'five-star safety ratings" and "best-in-class rear seat legroom" would agree with a lot that Raza is saying about new cars vs. older cars.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:36:09 PM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:36:09 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:32:59 PM
The automotive press is usually only comparing new cars to new cars.
I'll bet you dollars to donuts that any of them that haven't had the sould already bleached out of them by phrases like 'five-star safety ratings" and "best-in-class rear seat legroom" would agree with a lot that Raza is saying about new cars vs. older cars.
I never had a problem with anyone with anyone voting for the 2002. Once again, all I said is how can you say that a 335i is a bad car if you've never driven it and there are dozens of reviews from the press that say otherwise?
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: 93JC on May 08, 2007, 10:00:49 AM
Post by: 93JC on May 08, 2007, 10:00:49 AM
335i.
Contrary to what anyone else says, the 2002 IS an ugly little car.
Contrary to what anyone else says, the 2002 IS an ugly little car.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: J86 on May 08, 2007, 10:31:52 AM
Post by: J86 on May 08, 2007, 10:31:52 AM
I think it's sooooo cool looking!
I want a roundie!
I want a roundie!
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: 850CSi on May 08, 2007, 10:37:18 AM
Post by: 850CSi on May 08, 2007, 10:37:18 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:32:59 PM
I'll bet you dollars to donuts that any of them that haven't had the sould already bleached out of them by phrases like 'five-star safety ratings" and "best-in-class rear seat legroom" would agree with a lot that Raza is saying about new cars vs. older cars.
Doesn't that apply to all cars then?
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: LonghornTX on May 08, 2007, 10:53:14 AM
Post by: LonghornTX on May 08, 2007, 10:53:14 AM
Quote from: 93JC on May 08, 2007, 10:00:49 AMBah :evildude:.
335i.
Contrary to what anyone else says, the 2002 IS an ugly little car.
Title: Re: Then v. Now 9
Post by: 1 BAD 7 on May 10, 2007, 03:50:14 PM
Post by: 1 BAD 7 on May 10, 2007, 03:50:14 PM
I think those things that you dislike so much with the new BMW's can apply to the new porsches too. After all they are more computerized then first generation Boxsters and looks wise some people will say the older ones looked more classy.
I think you have gotten carried away with the whole thing of bashing new BMW's.
I think you have gotten carried away with the whole thing of bashing new BMW's.
Quote from: Raza ?link=topic=8934.msg440145#msg440145 date=1178467939
I'm sure there were other BMWs that aren't shit ugly and overly computerized as well.?