Best new AWD sedans under 50k

Started by r0tor, September 24, 2018, 04:20:22 PM

12,000 RPM

Quote from: MrH on September 25, 2018, 05:08:34 PM
Interesting choice.  I totally forgot about that car.  The high output engine is supposed to be really quick, and I think they look really good (save for that hideous swooping chrome C-pillar).  Interior is kind of a mess though with the dual screens.
Infiniti interiors look like shit ergonomically but they have so many redundant inputs it doesn't matter. Plus I think they have Android Auto/Apple Carplay (via update!). Def worth a look. Just don't expect a miracle :lol:
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Infiniti is worth looking into. Isn't there an AWD Genesis coming out in this segment. Also, Stinger seems ok.

Not a sedan but M240i? Do you need the rear doors?
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r0tor

I have an rx8... No need for another cramped car
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GoCougs

Q50 in any guise is a fairly terrible car - good power, but that's it. Terrible AT, terrible infotainment, terrible steering. Shame, because the refreshed MY2018 Q50 RS400, with full exterior LED lighting (finally), is the best looking sedan for sale today.

r0tor

I don't see much appealing about the Q50... Looks like the sport awd versions start at $50k and most of the car is aweful
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Might as well change the thread title to "r0tor's Giulia thread"... not sure why you even bothered to ask what we thought.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 28, 2018, 07:34:15 AM
Might as well change the thread title to "r0tor's Giulia thread"... not sure why you even bothered to ask what we thought.

Sorry I don't share any love for your long lost G -shrug-

... and I didn't even bring up the Giulia - shrug-....
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2o6

My friend traded his Giulia super early because it was a pile of shit

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Quote from: r0tor on September 28, 2018, 09:09:16 AM
Sorry I don't share any love for your long lost G -shrug-

... and I didn't even bring up the Giulia - shrug-....
It's the only option presented you haven't written off

And we know how you are once you make up your mind. :huh:
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r0tor

I thought that was the point of the thread... To find the best awd driver's sedan under $50k...

If the Giulia is the best at ticking the boxes, so what?
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Lebowski

Gulia is about the last car on the market I would buy.

veeman

It's about as old styling as you can get for a "new" car, it's not sporty like a German luxury car, but it's got AWD, RWD dynamics, big car footprint with lots of space inside and big trunk, and it's quiet.  V8.  And it's way under $50,000.  Chrysler 300. 

For some reason the Charger kinda sucks as a daily driver but the 300 is great. 

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Quote from: Lebowski on September 29, 2018, 07:41:54 AM
Gulia is about the last car on the market I would buy.

I don't know what could possibly be a better endorsement for alfa... Has no appeal to the poser crowd -shrug-
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We'll see how hardcore you are after it's spent a couple weeks in the shop and never runs right
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 30, 2018, 10:00:23 AM
We'll see how hardcore you are after it's spent a couple weeks in the shop and never runs right
Having owned a Jeep, he's likely used to that.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 30, 2018, 10:00:23 AM
We'll see how hardcore you are after it's spent a couple weeks in the shop and never runs right

You are the king of reliability scaremongering. Go to a Giulia forum. The car ain't perfect but a million miles better than your perception.
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Quote from: r0tor on September 30, 2018, 08:58:22 AM
I don't know what could possibly be a better endorsement for alfa... Has no appeal to the poser crowd -shrug-

Yeah, poseurs prefer CRVs.

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'18 M3 CS
'16 X5 5.0i (Wife)
'14 MINI Cooper Countryman S Automatic (For Sale)

2o6

If you want it, then go ahead. It ain't my money.



But let's not pretend it's the paragon of reliability. I have a couple friends who have new Fiat group cars, and they're kind of dumpy.

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Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on September 30, 2018, 10:55:28 AM
You are the king of reliability scaremongering. Go to a Giulia forum. The car ain't perfect but a million miles better than your perception.
You are just afraid I might turn out to be right about S65/S85 rod bearings or the myriad of N62 issues. But I don't make this shit up. I bring these things up because not even r0tor deserves the hell of an unreliable car. Warranty coverage doesn't give cover time and hassle.
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Quote from: FoMoJo on September 30, 2018, 10:11:24 AM
Having owned a Jeep, he's likely used to that.

The jeep honestly hasn't been bad.  In 8 years a shock, a door lock, and a thermostat... and last week I changed brake pads for the first time in 75k miles.

The focus is worse.  A new clutch pack basically every 10k miles.  The thing has to go even though it's low mileage and looks new inside/outside as I only have another year or so left of the extended transmission warranty.
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r0tor

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WookieOnRitalin

The upcoming Legacy XT is probably the best bang for your buck AWD sedan. 260 hp. 32 mpg highway. Get a Touring model and call it a day.

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Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on June 02, 2019, 07:54:31 PM
The upcoming Legacy XT is probably the best bang for your buck AWD sedan. 260 hp. 32 mpg highway. Get a Touring model and call it a day.



Or a heavily discounted Regal GS. 
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