Used EV residuals

Started by Laconian, January 22, 2021, 11:17:40 AM

Laconian

My mom is looking for a new car. She wants to get a Prius Prime because she drives a Prius and the Prime is... like... more of one? I don't know, but I had a panic attack when she mentioned that.

I think her driving needs -- non-COVID about 50mi/day, with occasional weekend trips of 160mi round trip -- would be perfectly addressed by a BEV with 200+ mile range. My dad has a Mazda3 so they already have a longer range ICE car in their stable. I recommended a Bolt, new or used, but what are some EVs worth looking at? Used is preferable - I think her budget goes up to around $35k, which is really on the low end for most medium-range EV cars out there.
Kia EV6 GT-Line / MX-5 RF 6MT

CaminoRacer

Used Bolts with 30k miles are like $15k now
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

Laconian

Kia EV6 GT-Line / MX-5 RF 6MT

CaminoRacer

New ones can be had in the mid $20ks due to discounts, so used ones have dropped in value a lot
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

Laconian

OK, that's what I told them before, but adding "a Bolt owning friend said" helped lower their guard.

I just called them and now they're pretty interested in EVs! I must've knocked her from her hybrid rut.
Kia EV6 GT-Line / MX-5 RF 6MT

Morris Minor

Quote from: Laconian on January 22, 2021, 12:46:48 PM
Why is that, exactly?
People are worried about battery end-of-life. But, from the (admittedly anecdotal) evidence I've seen, batteries degrade a lot slower than is popularly thought. Especially in cars like the Volt, which have decent thermal management systems. I think the Leaf's shitty reputation in this respect tarred the whole segment.

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Laconian

Quote from: Morris Minor on January 22, 2021, 03:53:26 PM
People are worried about battery end-of-life. But, from the (admittedly anecdotal) evidence I've seen, batteries degrade a lot slower than is popularly thought. Especially in cars like the Volt, which have decent thermal management systems. I think the Leaf's shitty reputation in this respect tarred the whole segment.

Most EVs don't come close to touching 100% charge in order to prolong the battery life, no?
Kia EV6 GT-Line / MX-5 RF 6MT

CaminoRacer

Volts don't, but most full EVs charge to real 100%. They want to get the most range possible. But there are settings to limit the charge %. I keep my Bolt at 88-90% instead of going all the way to 100% for normal commuting.
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

afty

In Teslas you set the max charge percentage manually. The car warns you if you set it to 100% too frequently.

There's also the Kia Niro. I've never met anyone who has one, though. For $38k before state incentives, you could do a base Model 3.

Laconian

Quote from: afty on January 22, 2021, 07:51:56 PM
In Teslas you set the max charge percentage manually. The car warns you if you set it to 100% too frequently.

There's also the Kia Niro. I've never met anyone who has one, though. For $38k before state incentives, you could do a base Model 3.

My mom says she's too old for the MMI-centric Tesla interiors. :lol:
Kia EV6 GT-Line / MX-5 RF 6MT

Morris Minor

Quote from: Laconian on January 22, 2021, 04:59:00 PM
Most EVs don't come close to touching 100% charge in order to prolong the battery life, no?
Yes. For day-to-day you go to around 80% & only exceptionally 100%.

Porsche, I think it is, has a hard cap at 80% - you can't go higher. It may even be that Porsches' displays state 100% when the underlying batteries are only at 80. They prioritize longevity over numbers used for boasting at the clubhouse bar.
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