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Title: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Speed_Racer on August 21, 2020, 12:14:57 PM
GF has been on the hunt for something newer to replace her Mazda3. After four yrs & 50k miles she was over it. She was close to purchasing a CPO CX5 but her company told her to hold off, then they surprised her with this. 2020 Corolla LE. She's a Mazda girl so she's sad to miss out on the CX5, but of course the best car is a free car so she's very grateful. We will miss the versatility of her hatchback - we've hauled plenty in it. And unfortunately we now have two sedans in the household so next year I'll probably start hunting for something more versatile to balance out the garage once the used car market returns to normal.

Pros:
Lots of tech is now standard: radar cruise, sign reading, lane keeping, auto headlights & high beams. But she loves the brake hold feature the most.

Cons:
Buzzy engine with the CVT, missing some common sense features: why no smart key, light in the glove box, or a grab handle for closing the trunk? I smack my knee on the corner of the dashboard everytime I get in the passenger side too.

Hello:
(https://i.postimg.cc/NjJCYfxf/2020-08-21-1.jpg)

Goodbye. Honestly aside from the versatility, I won't miss this. It was sloooow, noisy, and has the worst clutch takeup I've ever experienced:
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0hV5YS7/DSC-0231.jpg)
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: veeman on August 21, 2020, 02:25:31 PM
That's great her company bought her a new car. 

Consciously/subconsciously I'd be a bit peeved that they bought me a car without asking what kind I want.  It would be so much better if they just gave her the money and let her choose what kind she wanted. Even if they had some sort of deal with a particular dealership or company, she should be able to pick what model she wanted or have a certain amount of money put down towards whatever model she wanted. 

I know it's looking a gift horse in the mouth but I just don't like people deciding stuff for me.   :lol:

Congrats on her new car though ;)
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Speed_Racer on August 21, 2020, 11:19:57 PM
Yeah she was a bit bummed. She was hoping to buy herself something a bit more entry-level luxury as a way to treat herself. She's at least thankful it has some of the driving tech she wanted in her next car. Radar cruise is going to be real nice as she out zig-zagging the valley for work.
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: 2o6 on August 22, 2020, 01:47:17 AM
Oh it's base, base! It's got the 1.8L.


Still, these are generally nice cars. I might buy a hatchback one.
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: MX793 on August 22, 2020, 06:40:49 AM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on August 21, 2020, 11:19:57 PM
Yeah she was a bit bummed. She was hoping to buy herself something a bit more entry-level luxury as a way to treat herself. She's at least thankful it has some of the driving tech she wanted in her next car. Radar cruise is going to be real nice as she out zig-zagging the valley for work.

My experience with radar cruise is that it makes cutting through highway traffic while on cruise more work.  You are constantly intervening to over-ride the cruise.  Or just slowing down to match the pack without realizing it.
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 22, 2020, 08:12:33 AM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on August 21, 2020, 11:19:57 PM
Yeah she was a bit bummed. She was hoping to buy herself something a bit more entry-level luxury as a way to treat herself. She's at least thankful it has some of the driving tech she wanted in her next car. Radar cruise is going to be real nice as she out zig-zagging the valley for work.

I flipping hate radar cruise. But I also love it. People can't maintain speeds for shit no matter where you go. I wear the heck out of my +/- buttons.

And is that the CVT with the straight low gear for quick take offs?
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: CaminoRacer on August 22, 2020, 10:03:42 AM
I love radar cruise since most of the time I just want to stick in 1 lane and cruise, without fiddling with the cruise control speed constantly because people can't drive at a steady speed
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Speed_Racer on August 22, 2020, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on August 22, 2020, 08:12:33 AM
I flipping hate radar cruise. But I also love it. People can't maintain speeds for shit no matter where you go. I wear the heck out of my +/- buttons.

And is that the CVT with the straight low gear for quick take offs?

That's my pet peeve as well - we have a ton of construction so I barely use cruise in my car lately because of traffic speeds being all over the place.

And no, the CVT with the 1st gear is on higher trims w/ the newer 2.0L engine. This has the older 139hp w/ the normal CVT.

Side note, I just sold the Mazda within 24 hrs having posted it for sale. Not bad.
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: AutobahnSHO on August 22, 2020, 04:54:26 PM
cool though, when you need a dependable work horse, that should do it!
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Speed_Racer on December 09, 2020, 09:36:04 AM
Three-ish month update. TL:DR - do not recommend.

Pros:
Cons:
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKgqQ6js/dash.png)
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 09, 2020, 10:20:49 AM
No go on the Corolla, huh. :(
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Speed_Racer on December 09, 2020, 10:54:52 AM
Hard no haha. Compact competition gets better every year, and it feels like Toyota is punishing us for not springing for a higher trim or jumping to the Camry.
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Rich on December 09, 2020, 03:02:16 PM
My 2011 Mustang had the same dashboard 'feature'.  I HATED it.  Radar cruise sounds nice, I don't think I'd use it anywhere other than highway traffic though.  I've also had the banana problem with most modern seats.  I just want to be cupped around my lower back just below my shoulder blades that's it really.
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 09, 2020, 04:04:17 PM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on December 09, 2020, 10:54:52 AM
Hard no haha. Compact competition gets better every year, and it feels like Toyota is punishing us for not springing for a higher trim or jumping to the Camry.

Sounds worse than a Yaris, which isn't really bad at all.
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Laconian on December 09, 2020, 06:16:18 PM
I thought the buzz was really positive for the current gen Corolla. Huh
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Payman on December 10, 2020, 05:15:40 AM
Quote from: Rich on December 09, 2020, 03:02:16 PM
My 2011 Mustang had the same dashboard 'feature'.  I HATED it.  Radar cruise sounds nice, I don't think I'd use it anywhere other than highway traffic though.  I've also had the banana problem with most modern seats.  I just want to be cupped around my lower back just below my shoulder blades that's it really.

My Focus is really bad on the knees too.
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: cawimmer430 on December 10, 2020, 06:19:52 AM
Had the same issue when I checked out a European-spec Toyota Auris Hatchback a few years ago. I had no intention of buying it, but I just wanted to see what it was like. That interior was designed for small people, since my 6'4" frame could not get comfortable in it. The driver's seat would not slide all the way back so that my left knee was in constant contact with a part of the dashboard. The interior ergonomics were also a bit funny, nothing logical about the layout.

But hey, so reliable! But will Toyota pay for your knee surgery later on?  :lol: :tounge:
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Morris Minor on December 15, 2020, 01:37:05 PM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on December 09, 2020, 10:54:52 AM
Hard no haha. Compact competition gets better every year, and it feels like Toyota is punishing us for not springing for a higher trim or jumping to the Camry.
You're reminding me of a column I read years ago. The guy's contention was that you should judge a manufacturer based on its low-trim entry-level model. If it's a shitbox, cynicism levels are high and you should avoid the brand.
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 15, 2020, 07:52:38 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on December 15, 2020, 01:37:05 PM
You're reminding me of a column I read years ago. The guy's contention was that you should judge a manufacturer based on its low-trim entry-level model. If it's a shitbox, cynicism levels are high and you should avoid the brand.

I kinda agree.

Look at Honda vs Ford. One has come a long ways the last 40years.

Kia & Hyundai's base offerings now are much better than 10-20years ago.
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Speed_Racer on December 16, 2020, 08:50:24 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on December 15, 2020, 01:37:05 PM
You're reminding me of a column I read years ago. The guy's contention was that you should judge a manufacturer based on its low-trim entry-level model. If it's a shitbox, cynicism levels are high and you should avoid the brand.

I think that's a very fair metric. Mazda & VW do a good job with their cheaper models IMO.
Toyota is behind the curve with the majority of their models, but they get a pass with customers and press because of their reliability.
Title: Re: The most mainstream of them all?
Post by: Lebowski on December 25, 2020, 05:35:44 PM
Damn, a free car from work is awesome but that's weird they didn't give her a choice. Or the people I've known with company cars they at least got some choice, ie at least a choice of a sedan vs hatch vs cute ute etc. still, I'd take the free car and not complain, maybe ask for a vehicle allowance instead of a car when it's time to replace (I've never worked for a co that does company cars so not sure how exactly that works).