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Title: M5 vs F430
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Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: Fire It Up on June 24, 2005, 07:12:48 AM
Well, now we know the ultimate sleeper.  
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: BMWDave on June 24, 2005, 08:03:56 AM
I read that...I am happy the M5 won, but those numbers are seriously slow for an F430.  C/D got it to sixty about one second quicker.
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: Fire It Up on June 24, 2005, 08:25:00 AM
QuoteI read that...I am happy the M5 won, but those numbers are seriously slow for an F430.  C/D got it to sixty about one second quicker.
Wow....you're right....Maybe they didnt use LC?
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: BMWDave on June 24, 2005, 08:28:54 AM
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QuoteI read that...I am happy the M5 won, but those numbers are seriously slow for an F430.  C/D got it to sixty about one second quicker.
Wow....you're right....Maybe they didnt use LC?
I dont think launch control would shave a second off the 0-60 time....it might shave a couple of tenths of seconds, but there is no way it would shave a whole second.  And the F430 is a lot faster than an M5, no matter what way you look at it.  I would understand if they got 5.5 seconds for the M5, and 4.6 for the F430....but to get a fast time for one car and a slow time for another in the same magazine is somewhat fishy.
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: Fire It Up on June 24, 2005, 08:31:10 AM
Maybe they lied about using paddle shifters?
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: BMWDave on June 24, 2005, 08:39:22 AM
QuoteMaybe they lied about using paddle shifters?
Paddle shifters wouldnt make a difference, either way, this F430 didnt have a conventional manual, and even if they did it in Automatic, the shifts would be just as quick (in milliseconds) and it would still not make a second difference.
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: Raza on June 24, 2005, 11:21:41 AM
It's not the first time inconsistent numbers come about.  If I remember correctly, C&D corrects their times after running several rounds.  These guys may not have.  And the Ferrari may have crappy traction.

What I'm really wondering about is the M5's poor acceleration.  4.6?  R&T ran 4.1 and 4.2 for the E55 and RS6 saloons, respectively, so I think this thing would be quite lower than 4.6 seconds.
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: BMWDave on June 24, 2005, 11:28:25 AM
QuoteIt's not the first time inconsistent numbers come about.  If I remember correctly, C&D corrects their times after running several rounds.  These guys may not have.  And the Ferrari may have crappy traction.

What I'm really wondering about is the M5's poor acceleration.  4.6?  R&T ran 4.1 and 4.2 for the E55 and RS6 saloons, respectively, so I think this thing would be quite lower than 4.6 seconds.
Its not as torquey an engine as the E55, but it starts blowing them away after the initial launch.
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: Raza on June 24, 2005, 11:37:45 AM
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QuoteIt's not the first time inconsistent numbers come about.  If I remember correctly, C&D corrects their times after running several rounds.  These guys may not have.  And the Ferrari may have crappy traction.

What I'm really wondering about is the M5's poor acceleration.  4.6?  R&T ran 4.1 and 4.2 for the E55 and RS6 saloons, respectively, so I think this thing would be quite lower than 4.6 seconds.
Its not as torquey an engine as the E55, but it starts blowing them away after the initial launch.
If I recall correctly, the E55 ran 0-100-0 in about the same time as a 575.  

As a matter of fact, a good launch should be alot easier in the M5 because you can get to a higher part in the rev band without destroying the rear tires, and the E55's got an automatic.  
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: Tom on June 24, 2005, 11:39:08 AM
I like the way you illegally copied C&D for those of us too cheap to renew our subscriptions.  Thanks.
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: TBR on June 24, 2005, 04:39:13 PM
QuoteI like the way you illegally copied C&D for those of us too cheap to renew our subscriptions.  Thanks.
That isn't C/D, it is Autocar.  
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: Tom on June 25, 2005, 07:09:25 AM
I wouldn't know.  I'm too poor to resubscribe to C&D ;)  
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: TBR on June 25, 2005, 08:34:56 AM
QuoteI wouldn't know.  I'm too poor to resubscribe to C&D ;)
$12  a years is too much for you?!?  
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: Fire It Up on June 25, 2005, 08:38:57 AM
Do you know what else you could get with those 12 bucks TBR?
Title: M5 vs F430
Post by: Tom on June 25, 2005, 08:48:45 PM
QuoteDo you know what else you could get with those 12 bucks TBR?
Yup, that's a lot of bones.