Poll
Question:
What are your preferences considering brand, features and panache
Option 1: Jaguar F Pace
votes: 9
Option 2: Audi Q5
votes: 1
Option 3: Lincoln MKX
votes: 1
Option 4: Land Rover Discovery Sport
votes: 0
http://www.thecarconnection.com/car-compare-results/audi_q5_2016-vs-jaguar_f-pace_2017-vs-lincoln_mkx_2016 (http://www.thecarconnection.com/car-compare-results/audi_q5_2016-vs-jaguar_f-pace_2017-vs-lincoln_mkx_2016)
Reviews for the new F-Pace are coming out now and all signs point to it being a great vehicle. I only trust Jaguar as far as I can throw an F-type, but it's so pretty I'd probably still go with it :lol:
Quote from: MrH on April 26, 2016, 12:40:17 PM
Reviews for the new F-Pace are coming out now and all signs point to it being a great vehicle. I only trust Jaguar as far as I can throw an F-type, but it's so pretty I'd probably still go with it :lol:
I'm leaning that way...not the diesel though.
F-Pace looks nice, but I'd be worried about getting the first year of a brand new model, especially from Jag.
I really like the Q5. I've had the Lincoln as an Uber a bunch of times, they're nice enough to sit in as a passenger, but I don't know about them as owning one.
If you're leasing, maybe consider getting the F-Pace next time around once some more incentives emerge and bugs have been worked out. Between the MKX and Q5, it will come down largely to which car's character you prefer -- bigger and cushier, or smaller and a little sportier. I don't know that either is objectively better than the other, and are well-executed by all accounts.
Quote from: ifcar on April 26, 2016, 01:20:46 PM
If you're leasing, maybe consider getting the F-Pace next time around once some more incentives emerge and bugs have been worked out. Between the MKX and Q5, it will come down largely to which car's character you prefer -- bigger and cushier, or smaller and a little sportier. I don't know that either is objectively better than the other, and are well-executed by all accounts.
True, I voted for the F-Pace but getting a 1-2 year lease on a Q5 and then switching to the F-Pace might be a good option.
Jaguar is giving some very nice warranty options recently though. 5 year/60,000 mile plus complimentary maintenance for that time period.
The Lincoln has the best dealer network and parts availability. Diesels and turbos are not a plus, IMO. Plus:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p5ivBTR_kJI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABMk/vwxeiyoomcQ/s0-c-k-no-ns/photo.jpg)
:lol:
Quote from: shp4man on April 26, 2016, 04:35:28 PM
The Lincoln has the best dealer network and parts availability. Diesels and turbos are not a plus, IMO. Plus:
The Lincoln has some advantages and I was seriously looking into it with the 3.7. I will have to drive each of them to see if there is a distinct driving quality advantage to either of them.
The Q5 is quite obsolete IMO. The F-Pace is getting excellent reviews but I'd guess it's quite more expensive than the Lincoln.
Quote from: shp4man on April 26, 2016, 04:35:28 PM
The Lincoln has the best dealer network and parts availability. Diesels and turbos are not a plus, IMO. Plus:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p5ivBTR_kJI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABMk/vwxeiyoomcQ/s0-c-k-no-ns/photo.jpg)
:lol:
All you need is one dealer (near where you live) and any autobody shop can get OEM parts for any of these vehicles within a few days. It would be a different scenario if you were considering an out of production car.
The pitchman... He did make that Lincoln look cool.
Actually you don't live in the U.S. I think so I don't know if the Jaguar warranty and free scheduled maintenance applies.
The only demerit with the Lexus RX is how common it is. It's a really great looking SUV inside and out too.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on April 26, 2016, 04:51:35 PM
The Q5 is quite obsolete IMO. The F-Pace is getting excellent reviews but I'd guess it's quite more expensive than the Lincoln.
Overall, the Audi is more expensive than the Lincoln. Lower level models of the Audi are about the same price as mid to high level models of the Lincoln. Same with Jaguar. I haven't seen the Jaguar yet, so that might be the clincher. As well, my wife recognizes Jaguar as the more posh brand so...
This just came out. I'd definitely spring for the Jag if possible: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-jaguar-f-pace-first-drive-review (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-jaguar-f-pace-first-drive-review)
The F-Pace...why does it have such a stupid name?
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on April 26, 2016, 05:59:40 PM
This just came out. I'd definitely spring for the Jag if possible: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-jaguar-f-pace-first-drive-review (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-jaguar-f-pace-first-drive-review)
I leaning even a little more in that direction. We've got a few months to make up our minds though.
Quote from: Raza on April 26, 2016, 06:01:30 PM
The F-Pace...why does it have such a stupid name?
If I get one, I'll just refer to it as a Jaguar.
Quote from: veeman on April 26, 2016, 04:58:02 PM
Actually you don't live in the U.S. I think so I don't know if the Jaguar warranty and free scheduled maintenance applies.
The only demerit with the Lexus RX is how common it is. It's a really great looking SUV inside and out too.
Nice colour, but I'm really not a fan of the style.
(http://media.caranddriver.com/images/15q3/660572/2016-lexus-rx-first-drive-review-car-and-driver-photo-661574-s-original.jpg)
Am I the only one who didn't know what an F Face was? I'm behind on the times. When I was 13 and got C&D magazines every month I was all over this shit. :lol:
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 26, 2016, 06:18:42 PM
If I get one, I'll just refer to it as a Jaguar.
:lol:
F Pace seems like you can get well optioned in the mid $40k. Not bad.
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 26, 2016, 06:34:50 PM
Am I the only one who didn't know what an F Face was? I'm behind on the times. When I was 13 and got C&D magazines every month I was all over this shit. :lol:
I've fallen behind the times a bit as well. But I don't have the time or desire to read car mags like I used to.
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 26, 2016, 06:34:50 PM
Am I the only one who didn't know what an F Face was? I'm behind on the times. When I was 13 and got C&D magazines every month I was all over this shit. :lol:
No, I had to look it up.
Lincoln offers a custom/bespoke program for the MKX I believe if you wanna be fancy.
http://www.lincoln.com/blacklabel/ (http://www.lincoln.com/blacklabel/)
Do Lincolns lose value as quickly in Canada as they do in the US?
Quote from: Raza on April 27, 2016, 04:43:36 AM
Do Lincolns lose value as quickly in Canada as they do in the US?
That's what I was wondering as well.
All three of these seem like cars I'd be happy to have as a rental, but not sure I'd buy any of them. May be a case where leasing makes the most sense, and I'm not a fan of leasing.
Quote from: Raza on April 27, 2016, 04:43:36 AM
Do Lincolns lose value as quickly in Canada as they do in the US?
Possibly.
Quote from: Lebowski on April 27, 2016, 05:43:33 AM
That's what I was wondering as well.
All three of these seem like cars I'd be happy to have as a rental, but not sure I'd buy any of them. May be a case where leasing makes the most sense, and I'm not a fan of leasing.
We're favouring leasing over purchase at this stage as we are quite senior.
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 27, 2016, 06:31:05 AM
Possibly. We're favouring leasing over purchase at this stage as we are quite senior.
If you are leasing, then residuals will matter all the more. If the Lincoln has shitty resale like it does here, the lease rates will be a lot higher than the other two.
Also, since I really like it, have you looked at the Land Rover Discovery Sport? In the US, it's around the same price as the other three. Newer than the Q5, not as new as the F-Pace.
(http://www.landroverusa.com/Images/L550_15_EXT_LOC01_FC_04_dfc_fs_293-108502_628x353.jpg?v=2)
Quote from: Raza on April 27, 2016, 07:06:10 AM
If you are leasing, then residuals will matter all the more. If the Lincoln has shitty resale like it does here, the lease rates will be a lot higher than the other two.
Also, since I really like it, have you looked at the Land Rover Discovery Sport? In the US, it's around the same price as the other three. Newer than the Q5, not as new as the F-Pace.
(http://www.landroverusa.com/Images/L550_15_EXT_LOC01_FC_04_dfc_fs_293-108502_628x353.jpg?v=2)
I've considered the Land Rover Discovery Sport, but the base price up here is about 50% more than the other 3.
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 27, 2016, 07:18:08 AM
I've considered the Land Rover Discovery Sport, but the base price up here is about 50% more than the other 3.
Ouch. Nevermind then.
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 27, 2016, 07:18:08 AM
I've considered the Land Rover Discovery Sport, but the base price up here is about 50% more than the other 3.
Lease rates can vary pretty wildly from sticker prices, for what it's worth.
Quote from: ifcar on April 27, 2016, 09:14:29 AM
Lease rates can vary pretty wildly from sticker prices, for what it's worth.
Yeah, Land Rover was pushing their leases on the Discovery Sport pretty hard over here recently.
Quote from: ifcar on April 27, 2016, 09:14:29 AM
Lease rates can vary pretty wildly from sticker prices, for what it's worth.
Quote from: Raza on April 27, 2016, 09:29:14 AM
Yeah, Land Rover was pushing their leases on the Discovery Sport pretty hard over here recently.
I'll check it out then.
That F-Pace is a beast. You guys are retired right? Don't do a ton of driving? Reliability is not as big of a deal then IMO.
Q5 is going to get replaced any day now which will make current gen examples go for cheap. MKC is a more direct competitor to these... also worth a look IMO. Very plush.
Can't really go wrong here.... comes down to preference.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 28, 2016, 06:05:24 AM
That F-Pace is a beast. You guys are retired right? Don't do a ton of driving? Reliability is not as big of a deal then IMO.
Q5 is going to get replaced any day now which will make current gen examples go for cheap. MKC is a more direct competitor to these... also worth a look IMO. Very plush.
Can't really go wrong here.... comes down to preference.
Not exactly retired, as my wife is still active in her profession and I help her...and we do travel quite a bit within the region and are planning some extensive road trips.
I was looking at the MKC as well but, being based on the Escape vs. the MKX being based on the Edge, the MKX seems a bit more substantial; plus, I like the 3.7 V6.
xT5
Quote from: 2o6 on April 29, 2016, 01:01:15 AM
xT5
The XT5 is well equipped and fairly attractive and may be a consideration.
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 26, 2016, 06:18:42 PM
If I get one, I'll just refer to it as a Jaguar.
You mean you'll refer to it as the Jaaaaaag, right?
Quote from: Rupert on May 02, 2016, 09:45:38 AM
You mean you'll refer to it as the Jaaaaaag, right?
Not in front of my wife.
Quote from: FoMoJo on May 02, 2016, 10:24:35 AM
Not in front of my wife.
What, afraid of turning her on too much?
Cialis is expensive.
Lol
F-Pace vs Q5 vs MKC?
Unless you have a burning desire to own a $40,000 Ford Escape, you can go ahead and scratch the MK-Whatever off your list.
LOL at all the outdated misconceptions concerning Jaguar reliability I'm reading here. Since this isn't 1978, I'd not let the Jag-paranoia worry you at all. In fact, the F-Pace is the one I'd go for, despite the stupid name. Not that there's anything wrong with the Audi Q5. Sure, it's a handsome beast but it's been around a while now and getting just a bit too common.
The Jag is newer, more exclusive and has a great warranty. Plus, there's the panache of owning a Jaaaaag!
Go on, you know you want to! :ohyeah:
Wow, I didn't even know Jaguar sold an SUV. Had too look up this "F-Pace"; how very gauche.
Quote from: Raza on April 27, 2016, 07:06:10 AM
If you are leasing, then residuals will matter all the more. If the Lincoln has shitty resale like it does here, the lease rates will be a lot higher than the other two.
They all have terrible resale value. Leases they're offering here (36-month):
- ~$550/mo. for the Lincoln Scratch that, I was looking at the MKC. MKX would also be about $700/mo.
- ~$700/mo. for the Audi
- Jag doesn't even publish lease rates for the F-Pace yet, but if the deals they've got going on for the XF are any indication he'd be looking at around $700 too. (As a base of comparison they've got a 'deal' for leasing an XF Premium AWD for $599/mo. for 39 months + a $5,699 down payment; the same deal in the US is $489/mo. for 36 months with a $,4,995 down payment.)
Quote from: Raza on April 27, 2016, 09:29:14 AM
Yeah, Land Rover was pushing their leases on the Discovery Sport pretty hard over here recently.
I've be looking at the Land Rover Discovery Sport HSE and decided to toss it in the mix. Not quite as desirable as the F-Pace, but they are offering some pretty good lease deals on it up here. Going to start test driving soon.
Pretty much ruled out the MKX...my wife just doesn't care much for it.
How about a Volvo XC? Your back will love the seats.
Quote from: Laconian on May 25, 2016, 04:53:00 PM
How about a Volvo XC? Your back will love the seats.
They're nice. I've always liked the XC90. However, I'm being steered towards a Red Jaguar F-Pace.
Quote from: Laconian on May 25, 2016, 04:53:00 PM
How about a Volvo XC? Your back will love the seats.
Good call
The XC60 T6 will move pretty well, and you can probably get a decent deal on one.
For mostly irrational reasons, as with everything in Lincoln's lineup, the MKXZM&TW needs to be cast into the fires of Hell.
In all seriousness though, the Jag is getting great reviews. My XJ hasn't missed a beat yet, though I've heard the newer ones have some annoying issues with their infotainment system.
Quote from: 68_427 on April 26, 2016, 10:56:08 PM
Lincoln offers a custom/bespoke program for the MKX I believe if you wanna be fancy.
http://www.lincoln.com/blacklabel/ (http://www.lincoln.com/blacklabel/)
Does it include replacing all of the interior bits and getting someone besides the gentlemen who assemble normal Lincoln interiors to do the fit and finish work?
Went t0 the Jag/Range Rover dealer yesterday. They had just delivered their first F-Pace prior to our arriving so we didn't get a chance to see it.
They seem to be selling like hotcakes so no deals to be made. Their getting a demo on the 14th of this month and we'll have a look at it then. Pretty much made up our minds on it. The Discovery Sport and Evoque look pretty good, but...
They had a new 2015 XJL for a big discount...still too much, but we were tempted. Second sober thoughts are always recommended in these situations.
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 02, 2016, 12:42:09 PM
Went t0 the Jag/Range Rover dealer yesterday. They had just delivered their first F-Pace prior to our arriving so we didn't get a chance to see it.
They seem to be selling like hotcakes so no deals to be made. Their getting a demo on the 14th of this month and we'll have a look at it then. Pretty much made up our minds on it. The Discovery Sport and Evoque look pretty good, but...
They had a new 2015 XJL for a big discount...still too much, but we were tempted. Second sober thoughts are always recommended in these situations.
Did you look at the Discovery Sport while you were there?
Quote from: Raza on June 02, 2016, 10:46:18 PM
Did you look at the Discovery Sport while you were there?
I did. For that matter, I'd be quite content with a Discovery Sport HSE, but my wife...
As well, I've not yet seen an F-Pace in the metal. I expect when we do, there will be little room for discussion. She's pretty much made up her mind on an Italian Racing Red F-Pace. I wouldn't object to that.
edit; The 340hp supercharged 3.0 litre gasoline engine available for the F-Pace also has me leaning in that direction.
Keep us updated on what you decide to do. The F-Pace is an interesting car at a relatively competitive price.
Quote from: MrH on June 03, 2016, 08:55:06 AM
Keep us updated on what you decide to do. The F-Pace is an interesting car at a relatively competitive price.
The only holdup is delivery. Dealers up here have limited quotas and they seem to have sold at least half of their quotas sight unseen. Earliest delivery is November; if you can believe what a car salesman says.
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 03, 2016, 07:35:15 AM
I did. For that matter, I'd be quite content with a Discovery Sport HSE, but my wife...
As well, I've not yet seen an F-Pace in the metal. I expect when we do, there will be little room for discussion. She's pretty much made up her mind on an Italian Racing Red F-Pace. I wouldn't object to that.
edit; The 340hp supercharged 3.0 litre gasoline engine available for the F-Pace also has me leaning in that direction.
Cool, cool. I'm personally 35% certain that a Discovery Sport will be my next car (which is a relatively high level of certainty for me. I was nearly 100% certain that I wouldn't even consider a Z4 before I bought one...), so I'd love to hear your impressions of it.
Been doing some research on the Discovery Sport. Since I'd mainly fallen for it on looks and the romance of an actually capable Land Rover, I thought it smart to see if it's actually good.
Seems like it is. Capable offroad, good inside, great ride, but with a couple of drawbacks. The 2.0L I4t engine and ZF 9AT leave something to be desired, apparently. The engine is laggy and the transmission is clumsy. Apparently Jaguar Land Rover's got a new I4 line in the pipeline with the Ingenium moniker, so that should be a welcome change when it comes around (evo's already reviewed the Ingenium diesel, quite favorably). Infotainment (ugh, what a word to have to use) system is slow and a bit clunky. Other than that, nothing else has put me off the car. Apparently the Haldex AWD system that's in there now will either be replaced by a torque-vectoring system (or be sold alongside, the articles I've read are ambiguous on that), but the reviewer couldn't seem to tell a difference in performance in snow and ice, so that's a nonissue.
So we decided on the Land Rover Discovery Sport HSE.
Just signed the purchase last night and should pick it up this Friday.
Firenze Red exterior and Ebony/Ebony/Cirrus interior.
Should look something like this...
(https://s18.postimg.org/un79ljgy1/IMG_4848_1600.jpg)
Congrats. That has a lovely interior and drives very well. One of my partners has an Evoque which is very similar.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on November 29, 2016, 10:27:58 AM
Congrats. That has a lovely interior and drives very well. One of my partners has an Evoque which is very similar.
Thanks. Of the vehicles we tried, it best suited our requirements.
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 29, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
So we decided on the Land Rover Discovery Sport HSE.
Just signed the purchase last night and should pick it up this Friday.
Firenze Red exterior and Ebony/Ebony/Cirrus interior.
Should look something like this...
(https://s18.postimg.org/un79ljgy1/IMG_4848_1600.jpg)
Someone finally listened to me!
I really hope it works out for you. :mask:
Such a good looking SUV. Congrats.
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 29, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
So we decided on the Land Rover Discovery Sport HSE.
Just signed the purchase last night and should pick it up this Friday.
Firenze Red exterior and Ebony/Ebony/Cirrus interior.
Should look something like this...
(https://s18.postimg.org/un79ljgy1/IMG_4848_1600.jpg)
Nice! I like the look of the new Disco - I don't think I've seen it before.
Quote from: Raza on November 29, 2016, 05:03:54 PM
Someone finally listened to me!
I really hope it works out for you. :mask:
As a matter of fact, I did listen to you. :ohyeah: It wasn't even on our original list.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on November 29, 2016, 05:04:47 PM
Such a good looking SUV. Congrats.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on November 29, 2016, 07:53:20 PM
Nice! I like the look of the new Disco - I don't think I've seen it before.
Thanks, it really looks better in person. Lots of nice features.
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 29, 2016, 08:03:04 PM
As a matter of fact, I did listen to you. :ohyeah: It wasn't even on our original list.
:lol:
It's amazing how important financial decisions can be influenced by "strangers" (quotes because a lot of us have been around long enough that we know each other fairly well) over the internet. I wouldn't have gotten the Explorer if it weren't for the Spin.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on November 29, 2016, 11:18:00 PM
:lol:
It's amazing how important financial decisions can be influenced by "strangers" (quotes because a lot of us have been around long enough that we know each other fairly well) over the internet. I wouldn't have gotten the Explorer if it weren't for the Spin.
I was straight until I came here
Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 29, 2016, 11:47:28 PM
I was straight until I came here
I will take that as a compliment.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 29, 2016, 11:47:28 PM
I was straight until I came here
Are you gay now too? If that many more people come out, Joe might switch back.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on November 29, 2016, 07:53:20 PM
Nice! I like the look of the new Disco - I don't think I've seen it before.
Yes you have.
(http://www.moibbk.com/images/ford-explorer-red-1.jpg)
It was weird when the Explorer and Range Rover came out looking like each other around the same time. FWIW I think the facelifted Explorer looks really good. Ford got shameless with the plagiarism though.
(https://imganuncios.mitula.net/2017_ford_explorer_xlt_awd_xlt_4dr_suv_3270103467143186820.jpg)
Congratulations. Beautiful car. The red/black combo looks great. Interesting that the other SUV you were strongly considering, the Jaguar F pace, is made sorta by the same company (both owned by Tata).
Quote from: veeman on December 01, 2016, 06:42:04 AM
Congratulations. Beautiful car. The red/black combo looks great. Interesting that the other SUV you were strongly considering, the Jaguar F pace, is made sorta by the same company (both owned by Tata).
Thanks. It has the Black Design Pack which includes 20" black gloss rims as well as black grille and other trim pieces.
Tata has infused money into the brand(s), but has not interfered with them. However, up to this point, they still have an EcoBoost engine; which is fine by me.
Congrats! Post up some pics when you have chance. Its a great looking SUV.
Quote from: SJ_GTI on December 01, 2016, 01:18:56 PM
Congrats! Post up some pics when you have chance. Its a great looking SUV.
Thanks. Picking it up tomorrow. I take some pictures.
Congrats on being a COG (cool old guy :lol:). You could have easily went the gold Enclave route. Great looking Disco.
Quote from: Rockraven on December 02, 2016, 04:46:10 AM
Congrats on being a COG (cool old guy :lol:). You could have easily went the gold Enclave route. Great looking Disco.
Cool old guy indeed.
Quote from: Rockraven on December 02, 2016, 04:46:10 AM
Congrats on being a COG (cool old guy :lol:). You could have easily went the gold Enclave route. Great looking Disco.
The only Buick I would consider now would be a '56 Buick Special, Robins Egg blue with white vinyl interior and white convertible top; like the one I saw in a used car lot on the Danforth in 1960 and almost bought :lol:.
But there was one car that had me thinking seriously about http://erinwoodford.com/view/new-2017-ford-mustang-98805/ (http://erinwoodford.com/view/new-2017-ford-mustang-98805/)...until my wife brought me back to me senses :frown:.
Some pictures. So far, we love it.
(https://s30.postimg.org/7hgeqwoep/20161207_121951.jpg)
(https://s24.postimg.org/s6rfgqiqd/20161207_122002.jpg)
(https://s30.postimg.org/vimitz0td/20161207_122018.jpg)
(https://s15.postimg.org/hfv89qva3/20161207_122037.jpg)
That is a great looking small SUV. I think the powertrain/transmission could use some love in the future, but if you didn't want to wait forever for the Jag engine to get in there, it's a smart move now. The lease deals on it were absolutely insane.
Was wondering when these would show up. Looks great IMHO. I am not always a fan of black wheels but with the overall color scheme it works perfectly here. :ohyeah:
Speaking of, what size wheel/tire does this come with?
Quote from: SJ_GTI on December 07, 2016, 01:09:14 PM
Was wondering when these would show up. Looks great IMHO. I am not always a fan of black wheels but with the overall color scheme it works perfectly here. :ohyeah:
Speaking of, what size wheel/tire does this come with?
There seem to be 5 tire/wheel choices...
235/60R18 107H
8Jx18 ET45
5x108
OE
225/65R17 106V
7.5Jx17 ET40
5x108
235/65R17 104V
7.5Jx17 ET40
5x108
235/55R19 105V
8Jx19 ET45
5x108
245/45R20 99V
9Jx20 ET40
5x108
Ours has the Black Design Package which includes the 20 inch wheels with 245/45R20 tires.
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 07, 2016, 02:25:58 PM
Ours has the Black Design Package which includes the 20 inch wheels with 245/45R20 tires.
Was gonna say they look pretty low profile for an SUV. I am guessing those are not designed to go offroad. :lol:
Quote from: Raza on December 07, 2016, 12:52:36 PM
That is a great looking small SUV. I think the powertrain/transmission could use some love in the future, but if you didn't want to wait forever for the Jag engine to get in there, it's a smart move now. The lease deals on it were absolutely insane.
They don't like to admit it at the Jaguar/Land Rover dealership, but it does have the I4 2.0 litre Ford Ecoboost engine which is fine with me; though it does have the 9–speed ZF 9-HP transmission.
It all seems to work very well together in both city and highway driving. More than adequate zip in just about all driving circumstances, depending on your foot and, if you're gentle, it strives towards efficiency; keeping revs at between 1500 to 2000 rpm up to 120 kph. On a recent city/highway trip, we got 8.1 litres per 100 kilometres according to the info screen. The only thing I don't really like is the engine stop/start feature, not that it doesn't work well, but I just don't like the engine quitting every time I stop. Fortunately, there's a convenient little button that turns the feature off.
Quote from: SJ_GTI on December 07, 2016, 02:34:06 PM
Was gonna say they look pretty low profile for an SUV. I am guessing those are not designed to go offroad. :lol:
I try to stay one the road as much as possible. :lol:
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 07, 2016, 02:42:23 PM
I try to stay one the road as much as possible. :lol:
:lol:
God damn, 20x9 wheels on an suv...
I may be one of the few people who absolutely abhors the Discovery. I hate it. I hate yours too.
I'm not kidding. Great that you like it, but I absolutely loathe it.
Quote from: CJ on December 12, 2016, 02:57:00 PM
I may be one of the few people who absolutely abhors the Discovery. I hate it. I hate yours too.
I'm not kidding. Great that you like it, but I absolutely loathe it.
You don't like the style, or something else?
Quote from: CJ on December 12, 2016, 02:57:00 PM
I may be one of the few people who absolutely abhors the Discovery. I hate it. I hate yours too.
I'm not kidding. Great that you like it, but I absolutely loathe it.
:rolleyes:
Is there any point in coming in to poo over others' purchases?
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 12, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
You don't like the style, or something else?
It's the style. There is no design originality and the interior just doesn't feel worth the price of entry.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on December 12, 2016, 04:24:10 PM
:rolleyes:
Is there any point in coming in to poo over others' purchases?
+1, show some class.
I've been looking at the disco sport and f-pace... Seem like great SUVs... Hope you enjoy it!
Quote from: r0tor on December 12, 2016, 07:16:39 PM
I've been looking at the disco sport and f-pace... Seem like great SUVs... Hope you enjoy it!
I still really like the F-Pace. We looked at it very closely but the model and options we wanted were just a bit out of our range.
There is no accounting for taste of course (do not mean this insultingly). For me I have always dug the way Landrovers look. I think the vast majority of SUV's/CUV's on the market are interchangeable but LR's always seem to stand out in a crowd.
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 12, 2016, 08:02:53 PM
I still really like the F-Pace. We looked at it very closely but the model and options we wanted were just a bit out of our range.
I really wish the disco sport was like a rugged F-Pace or a mini Disco and kept the V6 instead of being more related to the Evoque.
Did you get the advanced dynamics option with the magneride shocks and trick rear diff (same as focus RS)?
I like the look of the LR4 and wish they would stick more with that boxy/utilitarian (and more roomy) design than going more the Evoque direction.
It's not a bad choice by any measure but not really to my taste either. That is, of course, mostly a matter of subjective style and not meant as shitting on FoMoJo's pick.
Quote from: Raza on December 07, 2016, 12:52:36 PM
That is a great looking small SUV. I think the powertrain/transmission could use some love in the future, but if you didn't want to wait forever for the Jag engine to get in there, it's a smart move now. The lease deals on it were absolutely insane.
Is the Disco Sport a small SUV? I thought the Evoque was supposed to be the small SUV
Quote from: Lebowski on December 13, 2016, 11:11:03 AM
I like the look of the LR4 and wish they would stick more with that boxy/utilitarian (and more roomy) design than going more the Evoque direction.
It's not a bad choice by any measure but not really to my taste either. That is, of course, mostly a matter of subjective style and not meant as shitting on FoMoJo's pick.
Isn't the LR4 being replaced by the boxier Discovery? Wouldn't this be replacing the crappy little Freelander?
Quote from: SVT_Power on December 13, 2016, 03:39:39 PM
Is the Disco Sport a small SUV? I thought the Evoque was supposed to be the small SUV
The Evoque is more of a compact, style driven SUV. And it's a "Range Rover" sub model. The Discovery Sport is on the same platform, I believe, but it is bigger than the Evoque and is branded as a "Land Rover". The Discovery Sport is also available as a seven seater, which the Evoque is not. I guess the Discovery Sport is more of a midsize SUV? I'm not really familiar with SUV size classes.
Disco Sport is a compact. Almost the exact same size as a Rav4. It replaced the Freelander/LR2.
Quote from: Raza on December 13, 2016, 04:34:32 PM
Isn't the LR4 being replaced by the boxier Discovery? Wouldn't this be replacing the crappy little Freelander?
Yeah, this is not the LR4 replacement. I just hope the next LR4/Disco stays looking like a disco (are their pics yet?)
Seems to me it would make sense for the Discovery and Discovery Sport to have common design language, although IMO LR has really f-ed their branding in the last few years so wouldn't be a huge surprise if they didn't.
Quote from: Lebowski on December 13, 2016, 05:18:09 PM
Yeah, this is not the LR4 replacement. I just hope the next LR4/Disco stays looking like a disco (are their pics yet?)
Seems to me it would make sense for the Discovery and Discovery Sport to have common design language, although IMO LR has really f-ed their branding in the last few years so wouldn't be a huge surprise if they didn't.
The new Discovery looks pretty similar to the Discovery Sport.
Disco Sport:
(http://www.landroverusa.com/Images/L550_16_EXT_LOC30_SE_04_MS_670x385_293-200612_670x385.jpg?v=2)
Disco:
(http://www.landroverusa.com/Images/L462_17_EXT_LOC27_SE_680x450_293-304295_670x385.jpg?v=3)
Yeah, that's what I thought, I thought I'd recalled seeing pics but couldn't remember for sure.
It doesn't look bad, but doesn't look near as good as the LR4 or the older Discos IMO. I wonder if it's smaller ... that boxy shape of the LR4 gave it a ton of interior space.
Based on just those two pics the Sport looks better than it's big brother, IMO.
The Sport looks kind of melted when looking at it back to back with the normal Disco.
Quote from: MX793 on December 13, 2016, 04:49:28 PM
Disco Sport is a compact. Almost the exact same size as a Rav4. It replaced the Freelander/LR2.
They all seem huge to me. I'm trying.
Quote from: r0tor on December 13, 2016, 08:53:04 AM
I really wish the disco sport was like a rugged F-Pace or a mini Disco and kept the V6 instead of being more related to the Evoque.
Did you get the advanced dynamics option with the magneride shocks and trick rear diff (same as focus RS)?
No, we didn't get that option. I believe it's available with the Dynamic Lux model that takes it into a different price bracket. We did get a Driver Tech package that does offer some dynamic assist features.
What attracted me to the F-Pace was mostly the power train; front facing V6 with 300+hp as well as lots of aluminium components in the platform. However, the 2.0T engine in the Discovery Sport is more than adequate, especially coupled with the ZF 9 speed transmission.
Lease was up on the Discovery Sport and we decided to buy it.
I thought we might return it a get something like an Edge, but after doing a short test drive in an Edge Titanium with similar features plus a foot swiping tailgate, it just didn't feel as comfortable as well as the material quality didn't feel as nice.
Ah, you're a snob now. :lol:
Quote from: FoMoJo on May 29, 2020, 02:39:31 PM
Lease was up on the Discovery Sport and we decided to buy it.
I thought we might return it a get something like an Edge, but after doing a short test drive in an Edge Titanium with similar features plus a foot swiping tailgate, it just didn't feel as comfortable as well as the material quality didn't feel as nice.
Congrats on your new car :lol: It's a good looking SUV and, at least where I live, I hardly ever see any around so the exclusivity is a definite bonus too. If I remember right, your's is red which is a good color for that car.
Quote from: veeman on May 30, 2020, 07:10:34 PM
Congrats on your new car :lol: It's a good looking SUV and, at least where I live, I hardly ever see any around so the exclusivity is a definite bonus too. If I remember right, your's is red which is a good color for that car.
Thanks. Oddly, it has been trouble free so far, 3 1/2 years, which defies the reputation of Land Rovers. Yes, it's red with a lot of black trim as well as the roof. What I really like are the chrome black wheels. Really sets it off nice. I just got too comfortable with it.
Yeah after your recent post I googled the car (I didn't remember what it looked like) and it is a very good looking ride, especially in dark red with black wheels.