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Title: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 06, 2010, 09:58:16 PM
I've had numerous people ask me for tips and tricks when it comes to detailing their cars.  Let's have a detailing thread!  I'm no professional, but I've got some experience under my belt, so utilize this thread to ask questions about detailing your car.  There're a few others on the board that are pretty good with bodywork and detailing (Onslaught?, CJ), too, so we should have plenty of combined knowledge to help people out.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on July 06, 2010, 10:01:47 PM
Yeah, so I heard about this product that was supposed to, like, protect stuff, but like, everything. Do you know was that was called? I think it's best on wheels or something.



;) :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 2o6 on July 06, 2010, 10:09:42 PM
What's wrong with Armor All? I used some on my car......



Don't hurt me!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 06, 2010, 10:11:44 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on July 06, 2010, 10:09:42 PM
What's wrong with Armor All? I used some on my car......



Don't hurt me!

Protip: Make yourself some bacon.  Take the bacon grease.  Apply to your dashboard instead of Amor All.  That way, you'll at least have bacon after you grease your dash.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on July 06, 2010, 10:16:03 PM
I mostly use Meguires products, but I've also used some Eagle One stuff I like.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 06, 2010, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on July 06, 2010, 10:16:03 PM
I mostly use Meguires products, but I've also used some Eagle One stuff I like.

What from Eagle One do you use?  I used a few things from them a long time ago and remember not being too happy with it...?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 2o6 on July 06, 2010, 10:22:52 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 06, 2010, 10:11:44 PM
Protip: Make yourself some bacon.  Take the bacon grease.  Apply to your dashboard instead of Amor All.  That way, you'll at least have bacon after you grease your dash.



But it smells nice and it's shiny....

What should I use instead?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Laconian on July 06, 2010, 10:24:01 PM
You are a professional in a literal sense.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 06, 2010, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on July 06, 2010, 10:22:52 PM

But it smells nice and it's shiny....

What should I use instead?

Anything, really.  I dunno about you, but I've never associated greasiness with cleanliness, which just adds to the mind-boggling-ness of people's use of Armor All.  You can get this stuff at Wal-Mart for about $5 a bottle.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417n3ILEjuL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 06, 2010, 10:27:01 PM
Quote from: Laconian on July 06, 2010, 10:24:01 PM
You are a professional in a literal sense.

I mean, yeah, but I've never been "professionally trained" or anything.  I think I'm pretty damn good, though. :lol: :mask:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on July 06, 2010, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 06, 2010, 10:19:07 PM
What from Eagle One do you use?  I used a few things from them a long time ago and remember not being too happy with it...?

I got a bottle of the nano wash and I've used the wheel and tire cleaner.  That's about all I have used by them.  Seen a product called Surf City Garage in the parts store.  It's a bit high but might give it a shot

http://www.surfcitygarage.com/detail1.php?product_id=22
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 06, 2010, 10:46:52 PM
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on July 06, 2010, 10:29:25 PM
I got a bottle of the nano wash and I've used the wheel and tire cleaner.  That's about all I have used by them.  Seen a product called Surf City Garage in the parts store.  It's a bit high but might give it a shot

http://www.surfcitygarage.com/detail1.php?product_id=22

I've found that scratches from washing come not so much from quality of the soap, but more from the technique and cleaning apparatus.  A bristled brush is going to scratch your paint.  It doesn't matter what kind of soap it is or how well it "isolates" the dirt from the paint.  The brush (or mit) is going to be pushing down on that dirt and grinding it into the paint, regardless.  

Using a very clean wash mit (microfiber!) is your best bet.  Also, rinsing really, really well beforehand helps a lot, too.  If you have a pressure washer, use it.  The less dirt that's on the car when you wash it, the less you'll scratch it.  Use very light pressure when you wash.  If you have to go over a spot more than once, fine, but don't scrub hard.

Then again, on a relatively older finish that already has lots of scratches, none of this really matters, but for a freshly-buffed or newly-painted surface, this is key.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CJ on July 06, 2010, 10:47:14 PM
I'm a Meguiar's man.  I love their Hot Rims wheel cleaner.  It smells great, cleans fantastically (Wheels AND tires!), and is just an overall excellent product.  To clean the tires, in addition to the Hot Rims (Or Simple Green, Purple Power, or some other wheel cleaner or all-purpose cleaner) I have an interior cleaning brush from AutoZone that does tires just fine.  I have a few nice wheel brushes, one like the one Chris posted, and a more detail oriented brush.  For interior cleaning, I have another series of brushes for interior cleaning.  I like Meguiar's Interior Quick Detailer for hard surfaces.  It leaves a nice matte finish and smells great.  For an exterior quick detailer, I REALLY like Meguiar's Ultimate Quick Detailer.  In addition to Meguiar's Gold Class or NXT 2.0, it leaves a great finish and the beading is top notch.  For tire dressing, I REALLY REALLY like Meguiar's High Endurance Tire Gel.  It's excellent.  Lasts a long time and leaves a nice matte finish making the tires look brand new.  It's excellent.  Clay bar wise, I variate.  Just depends on what I'm feelin' wen I order online.


For paint correction, I have a Porter Cable 7424 and use a selection of Lake Country pads along with Menzerna Intensive Polish and Cobra microfibers for polish removal.  The Menzerna really is an excellent all-around product. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CJ on July 06, 2010, 10:49:05 PM
Oh, and for washing, I use Meguiar's Gold Class wash along with the two-bucket method and an always clean microfiber mit.  For drying, if I wouldn't use it on my person, then it doesn't go on my paint.  I just bought some Meguiar's Water Magnets, so we'll see how I like those once it stops raining every day.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 06, 2010, 10:50:07 PM
Yeah, I use numerous Meguiar's products, too...pretty much all the ones you mentioned.  They do work quite well.  That Gold Class wax is awesome.  Doesn't last as long as I'd like, though, but is worth it.

I don't buy all that stuff too often, though.  Since I've been doing more and more cars, paying $5 for 16-oz. bottles of stuff becomes expensive.  I've started buying in bulk, and have stuck with Meguiar's, but use their more professional, non-mainstream products.


Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CJ on July 06, 2010, 10:54:02 PM
The finish it provides, ESPECIALLY on a black car, is just excellent.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on July 07, 2010, 12:41:54 AM
Some of the best wheel cleaner I ever tried

(http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/stores/auto/detail-page/B000OWOMTE-G9524.jpg)

I tried some black magic wheel cleaner once and it wouldn't even eat through any dust.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rich on July 07, 2010, 04:25:07 AM
I think I f-ed up the Mustang's paint.  I washed it when I was away from my apartment and all I had were some paper towel type things to try and wipe up the water before I got water spots, but I think put some swirl marks in the clearcoat, or the wax.

I'm going to try and get a bucket wash in one of these nights (not having a hose sucks) and to do another nice wax job on it (just did one last week) and hope everything is ok.   I use Zymol wax, and love that stuff

I found a storage unit, so I'll be keeping it in there from here on out, so it should stay cleaner, longer
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 07, 2010, 07:05:41 AM
Oh my lord.  Paper towel?? :(
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on July 07, 2010, 07:44:22 AM
What kind of wax do you recommend after polishing with Liquid Glass?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 07, 2010, 09:06:05 AM
As CJ and I mentioned, Meguiar's Gold Class wax is pretty damn nice, and it is what I typically will use on my customer's cars.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on July 07, 2010, 09:09:32 AM
I hear the Meguiars NXT is good stuff too, not tried it yet though.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: hotrodalex on July 07, 2010, 09:23:23 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 06, 2010, 10:26:02 PM
Anything, really.  I dunno about you, but I've never associated greasiness with cleanliness, which just adds to the mind-boggling-ness of people's use of Armor All.  You can get this stuff at Wal-Mart for about $5 a bottle.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417n3ILEjuL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

I use that. Wonderful stuff.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 07, 2010, 10:08:33 AM
I would never use NXT wax. At that stuff's price range, you'd be better off going with a more professional product.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 07, 2010, 10:15:56 AM
Is Zaino any good?

And about diluting the shampoo and spraying it, won't that cause mildew underneath your carpets?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 07, 2010, 10:50:38 AM
Great post; I nominate it for stickiness.

Any recommendations for cleaning under the hood? I have found that wetting a warm engine with Simple Green, then hosing it off, aided where needed by brushing, works well.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 07, 2010, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: thecarnut on July 07, 2010, 10:15:56 AM
Is Zaino any good?

And about diluting the shampoo and spraying it, won't that cause mildew underneath your carpets?

I have never used Zaino, but have heard good things.  It looks pretty legit.

And, no, it won't cause mildew to form unless your car is amazingly air-tight and the stuff doesn't get to dry.  Just make sure the stuff has a chance to dry/evaporate and you won't have a problem.  When I'm done shampooing a vehicle with my steam cleaner, the upholstery is still mildly damp, but it will eventually dry, and I recommend that people leave their windows cracked for a couple days after I do it to make sure it has a chance to air out. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 07, 2010, 11:17:29 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 07, 2010, 10:50:38 AM
Great post; I nominate it for stickiness.

Any recommendations for cleaning under the hood? I have found that wetting a warm engine with Simple Green, then hosing it off, aided where needed by brushing, works well.

Yeah, I'd like this to be a sticky.

Underhood, I use Gunk Engine Brite.  It works very well, and is a very powerful degreaser.  I use it on bike parts and other things I want clean.  But yes, warm water and a general degreaser is good.  Obviously, cover up all your electronics with rags if you're using a hose in there.  For black hoses and plastics, you can use rubber/vinyl/tire dressing to enhance their look, or just simply make sure they're clean.  Also, putting a coat of wax on the underside of the hood and any other painted/exposed paint in the engine bay can help make those areas easier to clean in the future and will help the paint last longer in those areas by keeping it moderately protected from the heat and gunk that ends up in an engine bay. 

Modern engine bays are so goddamn hard to clean 'cause everything is so jampacked inside.  It's insane.  I'd love to have the chance to clean up the engine bay of a classic muscle car.

(http://www.gunk.com/webassets/images/home_engine_brite.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 07, 2010, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: thecarnut on July 07, 2010, 10:15:56 AM
Is Zaino any good?
I've used their leather cleaner (outstanding) and their leather conditioner (excellent). As for the polishes, I don't think they're worth the extra money unless you're exhibiting at a concours.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 07, 2010, 02:15:40 PM
For cleaning the windows glass exteriors, I like to hand wash then clean off remaining gunk with a 0000 steel wool pad soaked in a glass cleaner. Then dry it and polish with a microfiber towel. I never hesitate to use Rain-X on the side and rear windows (I think it's a good safety measure for dark rainy nights) but am a little hesitant to use it on the windshield itself; I've found in the past that it causes smearing with the wipers. Maybe they've reformulated the stuff and I should give it another try. Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CJ on July 07, 2010, 02:24:41 PM
I stopped using Rain-X on my front windshield too.  I just put the Ultimate Quick Detailer on the front windshield and it does a fine job, while keeping the windshield relatively streak free with my brand new OEM Volvo wipers.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: omicron on July 08, 2010, 07:05:11 AM
I must have missed the part where the scantily-clad youthful sorts lather my car with clotted cream and strawberry jam.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on July 10, 2010, 03:13:49 PM
Look again; it was back on page one.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CJ on July 10, 2010, 10:06:04 PM
I washed and waxed my 850 today!

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/clay92/7-10-10091.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/clay92/7-10-10095.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/clay92/7-10-10094.jpg)

I didn't get the chance to clean the insides of my wheels or the arches.  But hey!  I got new tires!

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/clay92/7-10-10096.jpg)




I also wet sanded my brother's Integra's headlights.

Before:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/clay92/7-10-10079.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/clay92/7-10-10080.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/clay92/7-10-10081.jpg)

After:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/clay92/7-10-10087.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/clay92/7-10-10083.jpg)





They're not perfect, but they're loads better.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: ifcar on July 10, 2010, 10:18:21 PM
I washed my car once; March 7, according to photos from the scene. I sprayed it with a hose, used a soapy sponge to wipe off dirt, and then sprayed it again to get the soap off. It looks like it will need another before too much longer, unfortunately. Footwells also need a once-over with a vacuum.

What's "detailing"?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CJ on July 10, 2010, 10:21:19 PM
BTW, I hate the grille.  I bought it like this and just haven't gotten a slash yet.  It's ugly and it sucks.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on July 11, 2010, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 07, 2010, 02:15:40 PM
For cleaning the windows glass exteriors, I like to hand wash then clean off remaining gunk with a 0000 steel wool pad soaked in a glass cleaner. Then dry it and polish with a microfiber towel. I never hesitate to use Rain-X on the side and rear windows (I think it's a good safety measure for dark rainy nights) but am a little hesitant to use it on the windshield itself; I've found in the past that it causes smearing with the wipers. Maybe they've reformulated the stuff and I should give it another try. Thoughts?

My experience with rain X has been that you gotta rub the shit in forever for it to work well without smearing.  Keep rubbing it in.  Takes awhile to apply, but when done right, it's awesome.  You don't even need to use your windshield wipers.

Btw, this thread is fucking awesome.  Any suggestions on orbital polishers?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: TBR on July 11, 2010, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: ifcar on July 10, 2010, 10:18:21 PM
I washed my car once; March 7, according to photos from the scene. I sprayed it with a hose, used a soapy sponge to wipe off dirt, and then sprayed it again to get the soap off. It looks like it will need another before too much longer, unfortunately. Footwells also need a once-over with a vacuum.

What's "detailing"?

I last washed mine in December so I have you beat there. I have been doing a decent job of giving the interior a quick once over every couple of weeks with a dust buster though.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 11, 2010, 07:43:48 PM
The Accord has never been waxed or polished and hasn't been washed in probably 4-5 months. I want to polish it but don't want to spend too much money on polish and wax ($20-25).

Also, the clearcoat is completely gone in spots on the top of the roof. What do I do there? Just polish over the top of it? Ignore it? Just wash the car and call it a day?

:huh:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 11, 2010, 08:58:38 PM
Keep in mind that the $20-25 in polish and wax you buy will last you for numerous applications, so in the long run, it really isn't that much. But, it's very apparent that you don't care at all about your car's finish anyway. :huh:

And if your clearcoat is gone, the best thing you could do is apply more clear. I dunno how big of a spot you're talking about, but you can buy small bottles of brush-applied clear or you can get a spray can. Or just put some wax over it. Or nothin at all since if the paint has been damaged that much, there's probably not much chance you'll do much to prevent such further damage in the future.

Essentially: You don't care about your paint.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: ifcar on July 11, 2010, 09:12:41 PM
Quote from: TBR on July 11, 2010, 07:43:06 PM
I last washed mine in December so I have you beat there. I have been doing a decent job of giving the interior a quick once over every couple of weeks with a dust buster though.

Darn. I did last 11 months before my first wash -- the car wasn't watertight in early months, which meant that washing the outside would have required me to bail out the front-passenger footwell.

I keep the car in a parking garage, so I don't have access to a power outlet to run my own vacuum. Otherwise I would be a little more diligent with the interior.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 11, 2010, 09:39:20 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 11, 2010, 08:58:38 PM
Keep in mind that the $20-25 in polish and wax you buy will last you for numerous applications, so in the long run, it really isn't that much. But, it's very apparent that you don't care at all about your car's finish anyway. :huh:

And if your clearcoat is gone, the best thing you could do is apply more clear. I dunno how big of a spot you're talking about, but you can buy small bottles of brush-applied clear or you can get a spray can. Or just put some wax over it. Or nothin at all since if the paint has been damaged that much, there's probably not much chance you'll do much to prevent such further damage in the future.

Essentially: You don't care about your paint.
Thanks for being a debbie downer. :rolleyes:

It's not even my car and for the last two years I've only driven it over the summers. Now that I can take it to school with me I wanted to clean it up but since I apparently won't take care of it, then fuck it, right? :facepalm:

This should be changed to "The Detailing Thread if I (giant_mtb) Feel Like Being Nice Today".
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: ifcar on July 11, 2010, 09:41:50 PM
Quote from: thecarnut on July 11, 2010, 09:39:20 PM
Thanks for being a debbie downer. :rolleyes:

It's not even my car and for the last two years I've only driven it over the summers. Now that I can take it to school with me I wanted to clean it up but since I apparently won't take care of it, then fuck it, right? :facepalm:

This should be changed to "The Detailing Thread if I (giant_mtb) Feel Like Being Nice Today".

Paint repair different from keeping a car clean though...I think his expertise is with keeping a perfect car perfect rather than fixing something that's damaged.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 11, 2010, 09:42:49 PM
Quote from: ifcar on July 11, 2010, 09:41:50 PM
Paint repair different from keeping a car clean though...I think his expertise is with keeping a perfect car perfect rather than fixing something that's damaged.
Well I was hoping there would be some way of being able to make it look less shitty on the roof. He could've just said that he didn't know instead of putting me down. :huh:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 11, 2010, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: thecarnut on July 11, 2010, 09:39:20 PM
Thanks for being a debbie downer. :rolleyes:

It's not even my car and for the last two years I've only driven it over the summers. Now that I can take it to school with me I wanted to clean it up but since I apparently won't take care of it, then fuck it, right? :facepalm:

This should be changed to "The Detailing Thread if I (giant_mtb) Feel Like Being Nice Today".

SARCAZM BRAH. TAKE A CHILL PILL OR TWO OF FOUR. :huh:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 11, 2010, 09:56:00 PM
Quote from: thecarnut on July 11, 2010, 09:42:49 PM
Well I was hoping there would be some way of being able to make it look less shitty on the roof. He could've just said that he didn't know instead of putting me down. :huh:

I told you. "If your clearcoat is gone, the best thing you can do is apply more clear."  It is available in small bottles usually accompanied with a brush (similar to a small bottle of touch-up paint), or you can buy it in spray-can size.  Neither will give you professional results, but for the everyman, they can help solve the problem and prevent further damage. :huh:

If there is more than just missing clearcoat - paint fading/chipping - then you're gonna want to repaint the area.  This would require you to sand away the remaining paint, prime the metal, apply a basecoat or two and then some clear.  It would require more work and would depend on your skill level, but I don't know the exact circumstances.  If your whole roof is missing the clearcoat, there isn't much you can do besides get the whole thing redone.  But for smaller areas where it's just starting to fade away, there's nothing wrong with doing small touch-ups.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: TBR on July 11, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
Quote from: ifcar on July 11, 2010, 09:12:41 PM
Darn. I did last 11 months before my first wash -- the car wasn't watertight in early months, which meant that washing the outside would have required me to bail out the front-passenger footwell.

I keep the car in a parking garage, so I don't have access to a power outlet to run my own vacuum. Otherwise I would be a little more diligent with the interior.

Parking garage? How swanky. I have the same thing which is a large part of the reason I got the dust buster.

I normally wash my car when I am at home. Doing it at a car wash is too expensive.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: ifcar on July 11, 2010, 10:07:48 PM
Quote from: TBR on July 11, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
Parking garage? How swanky. I have the same thing which is a large part of the reason I got the dust buster.

I normally wash my car when I am at home. Doing it at a car wash is too expensive.

I was about to say that I also normally wash it at home, but I figured that once wasn't really enough to establish habituality.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 12, 2010, 06:26:31 AM
Quote from: ifcar on July 11, 2010, 09:41:50 PM
Paint repair different from keeping a car clean though...I think his expertise is with keeping a perfect car perfect rather than fixing something that's damaged.

Most of the cars I do are at least 5 years old. I've done one "new" car; a Subaru Legacy with about 3500 miles on it. None of the vehicles I do are anything near perfect.  If the cars were perfect there'd be no jobs for me.  :huh:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 05, 2010, 10:46:59 PM
Gave the Audi a couple Liquid Glass treatments this past week.  I'll probably do at least one more coat this fall in preparation for winter. :ohyeah:

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/DSC03398.jpg?t=1283748500)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/DSC03422.jpg?t=1283748325)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on October 10, 2010, 09:19:35 PM
What does The Almighty Detailing Master think of spray on wax, like the Turtle Wax I have?

Also, what does His Majesty the King of Perfect Cars think I should do about my paint? It feels pretty rough even when cleaned and waxed with the above spray wax. There are a number of small places where the clear has just started to peel off. Still polish?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 10, 2010, 09:33:20 PM
Spray wax is okay.  Used a bit more frequently than liquid/paste wax, it should offer similar protection as the alternatives.  I don't use it on my cars (save for the parents' Explorer), but I do use it on wheels and such because it's easier and I can then clean the wheel and wax it with the same process if I'm just cleaning off some brake dust or putting the final touch on 'em.  The Turtle Wax stuff is my favorite of the spray waxes I've had, so you're right on.

If it's feeling rough, try a clay bar followed by some cleaner wax.  Strip the (previously-applied) wax before clay barring, though, by washing it with some strong detergent or by going through an automatic car wash (I obviously prefer the former!).  If clay barring and cleaner wax don't work, you're probably looking at buffing work or even wet-sanding.  A cheap, dual-action buffer and some rubbing compound will suit you fine if clay bar / cleaner wax don't work.  And if it still isn't comin' out smooth, well...wet-sanding.  Which costs $$$$$ unless you can do it yourself and I'm guessing you don't care about this vehicle too much?  Explorer?  

As far as peeling clear coat...yes!  Protect that area even more than other areas.  The whole point of the clearcoat is to - essentially - act like a permanent protector of the paint color and sheetmetal beneath.  Without the clear coat, your body will succumb to damage/corrosion more quickly, so yes.  Make sure those areas have a good coat of wax/sealant on 'em.

:ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on October 10, 2010, 09:39:51 PM
Heh, if the Exploder had paint problems (er, it does), then I'd not give half a hoot. We're talking about the Porsche. I'm not planning on wet sanding, though.

Anything I need to know about clay bars? And with the clear coat bits, should I clay bar over those, too? From reading above, maybe I should be applying patch coats of clear over the small spots, and then do the whole thing?

I just waxed today, and I probably won't wash it much (or drive it much, if there's snow) over the coming winter, so this is probably a spring project. It looks like I'll have a garage in which to park the car, which is good.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 10, 2010, 09:56:30 PM
Ohhh yeah, the Porsche!  Slipped my mind. :lol:

Nothing special about clay bars.  You basically spray the area down with spray detailer (usually provided in the package) and then rub the clay back and forth until the spray detailer starts to dry up.  Then wipe away the excess spray stuff (with the usually-included microfiber), and check your progress.  Pretty simple.  You can't mess it up. :lol:

I don't think the areas missing clear should be a problem for a clay bar.  Depending on the size of the areas, yeah, you can always just buy small bottles of clear; both small touch-up sizes and larger aerosol cans are available.  But for say quarter-sized areas, the brush-on, touch-up sized bottle will probably work easiest as you wouldn't have to mask off for spraying and all that jazz.

Good to hear you'll have a spot for it in the winter! :rockon:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on October 10, 2010, 10:00:10 PM
Rad.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 12, 2010, 09:43:31 PM
Midwest Revival & Protection
Premium Detailing Services

Automotive/Truck Detailing


Exterior
- Hand wash & dry
- Bug removal
- Wash and degrease of truck beds
- Tar removal
- Stripping whats left of the wax on the vehicle
- Rail dust removal
- Sap removal
- Road grime removal
- Inner fender grime-removal
- Undercarriage degrease & flush
- Tire degrease and dressing
- Wheel cleaning/polishing & waxing
- Engine degrease (including underside of hood & rad. core support)
- Overs pray removal
- Color sanding (for the deeper scratches that will not buff out)   
- Professional buffing & polishing
- Swirl removal
- Machine glaze (breathable finish)
- Protective wax
- Premium wax
- Pinstripe & decal removal & application
- Exterior window cleaning
- Chrome polishing
- Aluminum cleaning & polishing
- Polish exhaust tail pipe(s) if needed
- Plastic renewal & protection
- Inner fender & rocker panel (body weld) rock-guard undercoating
- Paint chip touch-up (paint will be mixed according to vehicle's paint code)
- Headlight lense restoration & protection
- Tail lamp buffing & polishing
- Any other requested service by customer (within reason)

Interior
- Complete vacuum with high-powered industrial unit
- Debris removal from under & between seats
- Door jamb cleaning and waxing
- Lube door hinges
- Door weather gasket cleaning
- Window gasket cleaning
- Cleaning of ash trays, cup holders, glove box, & center console
- Trunk cleaning, including degrease of trunk mat & extraction of stains if necessary
- Cleaning of air vents, removed and cleaned if necessary
- Cleaning of cracks, panel joints, and any other nook possible
- Cigarette burns repaired in upholstery (if desired by customer)
- O-zone clean air treatment (for vehicles with significantly bad odor)
- Dry-clean headliner, sun visors, & seat belts
- Pre-treat & scrub carpets, floor mats, and seats (if cloth)
- High-pressure steam clean carpets, floor mats, and seats for deep clean & stain removal
- Leather cleaned, treated, and finished with leather protectant on all leather surfaces
- Final disinfecting cleaning & wipe down of all interior panels, dash, steering wheel, etc..
- U.V. protectant applied to interior panels (if desired by customer)
- Windows cleaned with high-ammonia based glass cleaner for streak free windows
- Special cleaning process used for windows layered with smoke film
- Fragrance chips placed in inconspicuous location I.E. under driver's seat (if desired by customer)
- Any other requested service by customer (within reason)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 12, 2010, 09:44:21 PM
Marine Detailing

Exterior
- Hand wash
- Inboard engine degrease
- Grime removal
- Professional buffing & polishing
- Application of Marine wax (12 month protection)
- Chrome polishing
- Aluminum cleaning & polishing
- Decal & graphic application & removal
- Vinyl top cleaning & conditioning
- Trailer cleaning, degrease, polishing, also available
- Any other requested service by customer (within reason)

Interior
- Cleaning & grime removal on vinyl surfaces
- Scrubbing of deck to remove any dirt or grime
- Vacuuming of carpets
- Pre-treat & scrub carpet
- High-pressure steam clean carpets & any other upholstery
- Gauge & instrument cleaning & U.V. protectant applied to all vulnerable surfaces
- All windows cleaned with high-ammonia based glass cleaner for streak free windows
- All compartments cleaned, disinfected, treated, and aired out
- Any other requested service by customer (within reason)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 12, 2010, 09:46:28 PM
Professional Recreational Vehicle detailing


A.T.V
- Complete hand wash including mud & grime removal
- Engine degrease
- Air filter & air box checked & cleaned if needed
- Tires cleaned
- Wheels cleaned & polished (if aluminum)
- Plastic scratch removal & restoration
- Seat cover cleaned & treated with vinyl protectant
- Decal & graphic application & removal
- Mirrors, head lamps, & windshield cleaned
- Chrome polishing
- Clean & lube chain & sprockets (if desired by customer on chain-drive units)
- U.V. protectant applied to vulnerable surfaces (if desired by customer)


Snowmobile
- Complete hand wash & removal of any debris caught on machine
- Degrease engine compartment
- Air filter & airbox checked & cleaned if needed
- Rear skid cleaning
- Scratch removal
- Gauges, windshield, head lamp, tail lamp, and mirrors cleaned
- Wax hood
- Plastic scratch removal and restoration (for vintage molded plastic cowls)
- Wax tunnel & running boards (if painted)
- Polish tunnel & running boards (un-painted aluminum)
- Decal & graphic application & removal
- Seat cover cleaned & treated with vinyl protectant
- U.V. protectant applied to vulnerable surfaces (if desired by customer)

Travel trailers & Motor homes
- Complete exterior pressure wash & scrub (including roof)
- Bug removal
- Tar removal
- Road grime removal
- Undercarriage cleaning & degrease
- Roll out awning, clean & remove all grime & air dry
- Clean & dress tires
- Clean & polish wheels
- Clean all rubber gaskets around doors & windows
- All windows cleaned with high-ammonia based glass cleaner for streak free windows
- Interior vacuum
- Pre-treat & scrub carpet stains
- High-pressure steam clean all carpets and upholstery
- Wipe down & disinfect all panels, cabinets, ceiling, bathroom
- Clean all A/C & heat vents
- Flush gray & black water tanks on vehicle (if already empty)


Motorcycles
- Hand wash & dry
- Remove tar & road grime
- Remove bugs
- Clean & dress tires
- Clean & polish wheels
- Degrease engine
- Air filter & air box checked & cleaned if needed
- Color sanding
- Professional buffing & polishing
- Swirl removal
- Polish all chrome
- Clean & polish aluminum
- Protective high gloss wax
- Clean gauges, mirrors, windshield, headlights, tail lamps, & apply U.V. protectant when needed\
- Clean & treat all leather with protectant
- Clean & treat vinyl if required
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on October 12, 2010, 09:48:50 PM
That's you? What'd'you charge for all that (on the cars)?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 12, 2010, 09:51:24 PM
It's gonna be me.  Haven't figured out pricing schemes and packages yet. :ohyeah:

My old stuff: web.me.com/giant_mtb
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on November 01, 2010, 08:11:50 AM
I've had one of these knocking around, unopened, in my garage for months. Yesterday I finally broke it open and went to work on the insides of my wife's car's windows. They'd been pretty badly filmed-over. It works really well and is terrific at getting into the far reaches of low-angled front & rear windows. Recommended (never thought I'd say that about a "But Wait!!!" TV product).

https://www.buywindshieldwonder.tv

(https://www.asseenontvnetwork.com/productimages/Automotive-auto-car-restore-repair-windshield-wonder-car-detail-product.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 01, 2010, 08:13:12 AM
:ohyeah:

Those type of window cleaners have been around for a while until someone decided to make mad $$$$$$$$$$$ by making it an As Seen On TV product. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: The Pirate on February 08, 2011, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 07, 2010, 02:15:40 PM
For cleaning the windows glass exteriors, I like to hand wash then clean off remaining gunk with a 0000 steel wool pad soaked in a glass cleaner. Then dry it and polish with a microfiber towel. I never hesitate to use Rain-X on the side and rear windows (I think it's a good safety measure for dark rainy nights) but am a little hesitant to use it on the windshield itself; I've found in the past that it causes smearing with the wipers. Maybe they've reformulated the stuff and I should give it another try. Thoughts?

Holy thread bump, but I was in a similar situation, having used Rain-X on the windshield and not happy with the smearing, etc.

I've switched to Stoner Invisible Glass, and never looked back.  Can't say anything bad about it.  Easy to apply, last longer than Rain-X, zero streaks or smearing.  Lost a high speed windshield wiper chatter too.  I highly recommend it.

(http://www.rightlook.com/images/supplies/stoner-invisible-glass-cleaner-19oz.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on February 08, 2011, 06:45:49 PM
Rain-X suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CJ on February 08, 2011, 07:03:08 PM
It's great for windows that aren't the front windshield.  Rear windows with a wiper are fine with Rain-X, I've found.  As long as it's not on the front windshield.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on March 19, 2011, 11:08:11 PM
What can you do for a badly cracked-from-sun/heat dashboard? Obviously not get rid of the cracks, but what about keeping them from spreading too much?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: hounddog on March 20, 2011, 08:26:30 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 08, 2011, 06:45:49 PM
Rain-X suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.
Rain-X works exactly as advertised if applied to a clean and dry windshield.

My problem with R-X is that it seems to have a chemical reaction to the rubber wipers and seems to cut their life shorter by a ton. 

Also, it only lasts for a couple car washes.

I just use the polish I am already using and have in my hand for the paint on the windshield.  Works pretty well and has no ill-effects on the wiper blades.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: hounddog on March 20, 2011, 08:26:50 AM
Quote from: Rupert on March 19, 2011, 11:08:11 PM
What can you do for a badly cracked-from-sun/heat dashboard? Obviously not get rid of the cracks, but what about keeping them from spreading too much?
Buy a new dash. 

:huh:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on March 20, 2011, 02:20:36 PM
Quote from: hounddog on March 20, 2011, 08:26:50 AM
Buy a new dash. 

:huh:

Quote from: Rupert on March 19, 2011, 11:08:11 PM
What can you do for a badly cracked-from-sun/heat dashboard? Obviously not get rid of the cracks, but what about keeping them from spreading too much?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 20, 2011, 02:31:59 PM
What sort of material is it?  If it's a plastic, you're pretty much out of luck short of duct tape or glue. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on March 20, 2011, 03:31:59 PM
Uh, it's that padded rubbery stuff, I think.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 20, 2011, 03:37:45 PM
Well, there's really not a whole lot you can do and products aren't going to work miracles to prevent further cracking, but you can always try a product like that 303 Aerospace protectant that hounddog posted about.  Keeping the dash moisturized and protected will be the key to preventing it from drying out more and cracking.

Not much else you can do, unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on March 25, 2011, 09:45:36 AM
Eventually the UV beats down the dash, window surrounds etc. & dries them out so that they crack. You can stave off the day with garages, tint film & sunshades for the windshields, but once they're gone, that's it.

I know there are some vinyl protectant products out there, but I don't know the good ones, and am fearful of ending up with a high gloss sheen - yuk.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on April 04, 2011, 07:33:01 AM
I was cleaning out the inside of my car the other day. I threw out dozens of paper napkins and tissues that had been stuffed in to the door pockets. Pulling them out kicked up clouds of paper fiber dust, easy to see in the low-angled sunlight. So if your car's interior gets really dusty, those McDonald's napkins may be the culprits.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: hounddog on April 04, 2011, 08:46:06 AM
Quote from: Rupert on March 20, 2011, 02:20:36 PM

You know, I remember using clear nail polish n that sort of thing back when I was a kid.

Seems like it worked pretty well.  Heck, we put a very small hole in the boat top once a couple years ago and Kat put clear nail polish on the bottom and top of the boat top and it never leaked until we got it into the canvas shop.

Could give that a try. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on April 04, 2011, 09:51:49 AM
Yesterday I got some Surf City car wash and leather cleaner for half off.  Look forward to seeing how it does when the weather clears up. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on April 04, 2011, 10:26:13 AM
There used to be a company that made replacement covers for dash tops, they were thin hard plastic and glued over the existing cracked dash top.  Not a perfect solution but they looked better than a cracked dash. I have no idea if they are still in business making covers.  Try some creative googling. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 04, 2011, 10:30:23 AM
I've seen those, too.  Often have a carpeted surface and are pre-fabbed to fit the dash.  I'm not a fan of them.

(http://images.autoanything.com/images/products/large/dashboard_covers/dash_designs_velour_dashboard_cover.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 04, 2011, 10:42:22 AM
Fugly

Flock it http://wmflocking.com/flocking.htm (http://wmflocking.com/flocking.htm)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on April 04, 2011, 11:18:24 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 04, 2011, 10:42:22 AM
Fugly

Flock it http://wmflocking.com/flocking.htm (http://wmflocking.com/flocking.htm)

AKA MeetTheFlockers.com.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on April 04, 2011, 11:43:47 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 04, 2011, 10:30:23 AM
I've seen those, too.  Often have a carpeted surface and are pre-fabbed to fit the dash.  I'm not a fan of them.

(http://images.autoanything.com/images/products/large/dashboard_covers/dash_designs_velour_dashboard_cover.jpg)

No, the one's I was referring to were plastic and mimicked the finish of the dash surface. 

Ah ha.  They still make them.  See:  http://www.americandashcaps.com/?gclid=COaez8m0g6gCFQmt7QodGCR4qA
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 04, 2011, 12:11:35 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on April 04, 2011, 11:18:24 AM
AKA MeetTheFlockers.com.

That flocking website has nothing to do with flocking dashboards.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 04, 2011, 12:29:20 PM
Quote from: EtypeJohn on April 04, 2011, 11:43:47 AM
No, the one's I was referring to were plastic and mimicked the finish of the dash surface. 

Ah ha.  They still make them.  See:  http://www.americandashcaps.com/?gclid=COaez8m0g6gCFQmt7QodGCR4qA

Ahhh, gotcha! :ohyeah:

Definitely much classier than those silly clothy/carpety things!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on April 04, 2011, 12:31:44 PM
My Benz needs a new dash but not going to get one of these goofy things. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 04, 2011, 01:01:29 PM
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on April 04, 2011, 12:31:44 PM
My Benz needs a new dash but not going to get one of these goofy things. 

Fill in the cracks and FLOCK IT!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on April 04, 2011, 01:34:10 PM
I'll likely replace it after I get all the other bugs fixed. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on April 04, 2011, 11:38:29 PM
Quote from: EtypeJohn on April 04, 2011, 11:43:47 AM
No, the one's I was referring to were plastic and mimicked the finish of the dash surface. 

Ah ha.  They still make them.  See:  http://www.americandashcaps.com/?gclid=COaez8m0g6gCFQmt7QodGCR4qA

There is one for the 944, but I think I'll wait until I'm already ready to just replace the whole dash, and then try this first. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on April 19, 2011, 11:50:52 PM
Picked some of this stuff up for just a nickle a bottle, price on their web site is $15

(http://www.whitediamondamerica.com/v/vspfiles/photos/DRESSING01-2.jpg)

not tried their leather clean but they make some really good stuff for chrome. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 19, 2011, 11:51:47 PM
$.05 a bottle...?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on April 20, 2011, 12:03:40 AM
Yep, it was being discontinued at Advance Auto and that is what it rang up so I got the 3 bottles left and one bottle of wax too. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 20, 2011, 12:15:39 AM
Well, shit.  Let me know if it's any good, eh?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on April 20, 2011, 12:28:13 AM
I hope to use some of it this weekend.  Here is a demo of their metal polish and yeah it's pretty good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr7G3-76IzQ&feature=related

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 20, 2011, 12:31:02 AM
Hot damn!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: hotrodalex on April 26, 2011, 08:33:43 AM
How do you guys apply invisible glass? It's been a little streaky lately, so I've been wondering if it's because of how I put it on. I just spray it on the window and wipe it wih newspaper. Is there a better method?

(lolz iPod tried to change "better" into "heterosexual")
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 26, 2011, 08:38:47 AM
You always need to do a second, dry wipe.  I've never been a fan of the newspaper method.  Just use microfibers.  Wipe once with a wet side, wipe again with the dry side.  Or continue using newspaper and give the windows a second wipe (not sure if newspaper will work well as a dry wipe; if not, just use microfibers to dry-wipe).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: hotrodalex on April 26, 2011, 08:57:36 AM
Do you spray directly onto the glass, or just onto the cloth and then wipe?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 26, 2011, 09:00:54 AM
Onto the glass 99% of the time.  Once you're a few windows in, the cloth may be saturated enough to not need to spray the next window, too, which will help cut down on streaking/residue and save you minute amounts of cleaner!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 26, 2011, 01:55:02 PM
I acquired me some "glass buffing pads" when I ordered my goods a few weeks back.  Should be interesting to see how they work on nasty glass.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 24, 2011, 10:36:08 PM
Vinegar diluted in water makes for a great lubricant for a clay bar.  The vinegar really helps cut through tougher water spots (better than regular ol' spray detailer you might usually use when you clay).  I think I had it diluted something like 4Water:1Vinegar.  Just enough so you can tell the vinegar's there, pretty much.

:ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on June 19, 2011, 04:48:50 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 24, 2011, 10:36:08 PM
Vinegar diluted in water makes for a great lubricant for a clay bar.  The vinegar really helps cut through tougher water spots (better than regular ol' spray detailer you might usually use when you clay).  I think I had it diluted something like 4Water:1Vinegar.  Just enough so you can tell the vinegar's there, pretty much.

:ohyeah:

Thanks for the tip. I find clay-barring to be the most satisfying of all car cleaning jobs.
Do you have a recommended brands. The postage-stamp size ones in the kits available in auto parts stores seem ridiculously expensive.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 19, 2011, 09:30:35 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 19, 2011, 04:48:50 AM
Thanks for the tip. I find clay-barring to be the most satisfying of all car cleaning jobs.
Do you have a recommended brands. The postage-stamp size ones in the kits available in auto parts stores seem ridiculously expensive.

Clay is pretty expensive and usually is more expensive at auto parts stores.  I liked the clay I got out of the Mothers kit at WalMart for $20.  Came with a nice microfiber and a bottle of spray detailer and I liked the clay itself much better than the stuff that came with the Meguiar's kit I bought a couple years ago.  Or check out some of these options: http://www.autogeek.net/clbaandlu.html

Edit: They have the Mothers kit on autogeek, too, and it has a lot of positive reviews.  It's available anywhere, so I'd really just recommend getting that kit. http://www.autogeek.net/motcalgolcla.html
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on June 19, 2011, 01:03:34 PM
I used the Mothers kit; it was good. You get two clay bars, too.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on August 15, 2011, 08:12:46 PM
Anyone have recommendations for leather cleaning & conditioning products? I've used Zaino in the past, which was great, but it seems very expensive. I have som Lexol leather cleaner & conditioner, but have not been too thrilled with them; the conditioner left the leather feeling greasy.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 21, 2011, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on August 15, 2011, 08:12:46 PM
Anyone have recommendations for leather cleaning & conditioning products? I've used Zaino in the past, which was great, but it seems very expensive. I have som Lexol leather cleaner & conditioner, but have not been too thrilled with them; the conditioner left the leather feeling greasy.

Read this first and then decide on how much you'd like to spend on leather cleaner/conditioner.

http://freshstartdetail.com/what-kind-of-leather-do-my-car-seats-have/387

Basically, UV protection is the way to go.  So a product like 303 would be excellent for leather.  Keeping it clean is easy with some light degreasing. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: hounddog on August 21, 2011, 10:48:40 PM
Honestly, I use Lexol on our X5 and never get the greasy feeling on it. 

Perhaps you are using too much, or, not wiping it off thoroughly enough?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on August 22, 2011, 06:14:36 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on August 15, 2011, 08:12:46 PM
Anyone have recommendations for leather cleaning & conditioning products? I've used Zaino in the past, which was great, but it seems very expensive. I have som Lexol leather cleaner & conditioner, but have not been too thrilled with them; the conditioner left the leather feeling greasy.

I like a product called "Gliptone".  It is really good at revitalizing older leather that may have been neglected.  You car will also smell like it has a real leathr interior.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on May 16, 2013, 07:01:21 PM

http://youtu.be/5bXmxRjjAw8 (http://youtu.be/5bXmxRjjAw8)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 17, 2013, 05:07:15 PM
Those are so damn cool. 

$$$$$$$
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MX793 on May 17, 2013, 07:08:58 PM
Didn't read through the thread, so maybe it's already posted, but does anybody have any good tips for removing dried-up, stuck-on bug guts?  Seems like no matter how much I spray with a high pressure washer and scrub with a soft cloth or sponge, I can't get them off.  I'd prefer not using abrasives or gently scraping with a razor blade.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 21, 2013, 07:00:36 AM
Clay bar. GooGone. Any "tar & bug remover" you can buy at a store.

Or wet sanding!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CALL_911 on May 21, 2013, 12:33:29 PM
Any tips on conditioning leather? I have crows feet in my driver's seat that I'd like to get rid of.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on May 21, 2013, 01:29:04 PM
I really notice how the paint on a car's hood takes a beating compared to the rest of the bodywork. Obviously it takes the brunt of wind borne damage, but I think engine heat cooks things in more than equivalent gunk elsewhere on the car.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on May 21, 2013, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on May 21, 2013, 12:33:29 PM
Any tips on conditioning leather? I have crows feet in my driver's seat that I'd like to get rid of.

Chamberlain's Leather Milk
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 24, 2013, 06:49:58 AM
Quote from: CALL_911 on May 21, 2013, 12:33:29 PM
Any tips on conditioning leather? I have crows feet in my driver's seat that I'd like to get rid of.

Getting rid of them won't be easy. That usually requires some steaming, pulling, and ironing...

However, any decent leather conditioner will help prevent further ones.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CALL_911 on May 24, 2013, 12:14:36 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 24, 2013, 06:49:58 AM
Getting rid of them won't be easy. That usually requires some steaming, pulling, and ironing...

However, any decent leather conditioner will help prevent further ones.

Goddammit

Maybe it's just me, but I've noticed VW leather to be kind of shitty. The leather in my mom's A4 is not in fantastic shape, and even in my car, it's not holding up as well as I would have liked it to. On my dad's BMW, OTOH, it's a completely different story. Honda leather also, while it feels a bit vinyl-y, the shit does hold up well over time. Out of my limited samplings, I think I've been the most impressed by Lexus/Toyota leather, followed by BMW.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: hotrodalex on May 24, 2013, 12:26:51 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on May 24, 2013, 12:14:36 PM
Goddammit

Maybe it's just me, but I've noticed VW leather to be kind of shitty. The leather in my mom's A4 is not in fantastic shape, and even in my car, it's not holding up as well as I would have liked it to. On my dad's BMW, OTOH, it's a completely different story. Honda leather also, while it feels a bit vinyl-y, the shit does hold up well over time. Out of my limited samplings, I think I've been the most impressed by Lexus/Toyota leather, followed by BMW.

Most people aren't fans of BMW leather, which I don't understand. The seats in my car are wonderful.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 24, 2013, 04:32:31 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 24, 2011, 10:36:08 PM
Vinegar diluted in water makes for a great lubricant for a clay bar.  The vinegar really helps cut through tougher water spots (better than regular ol' spray detailer you might usually use when you clay).  I think I had it diluted something like 4Water:1Vinegar.  Just enough so you can tell the vinegar's there, pretty much.

:ohyeah:

Vinegar smells so god damn bad, I wouldn't use it no matter how well it works.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 24, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
Quote from: MX793 on May 17, 2013, 07:08:58 PM
Didn't read through the thread, so maybe it's already posted, but does anybody have any good tips for removing dried-up, stuck-on bug guts?  Seems like no matter how much I spray with a high pressure washer and scrub with a soft cloth or sponge, I can't get them off.  I'd prefer not using abrasives or gently scraping with a razor blade.

I use a product from wizards called bug remover(or bug something) works well. If they are real bad you can soak them a few times then wipe them off.
Title: Re: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on May 24, 2013, 04:36:23 PM
Quote from: hotrodalex on May 24, 2013, 12:26:51 PM
Most people aren't fans of BMW leather, which I don't understand. The seats in my car are wonderful.

Tons of BMW have leatherette seats (some materials I actually like better than leather).

I wouldn't be so quick to classify leathers by brand. They all buy from the same few suppliers, but each of those suppliers have various grades you can buy. There's a reason leather seats on a Mainstreamer feel like crap compared to an S-class.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: S204STi on June 07, 2013, 12:52:08 PM
Had a body guy at my shop do a machine polish on the WRX. Tomorrow I'll fill in all the rock chips, then It's time for some wax. Have your recommendations changed at all with that?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on June 07, 2013, 12:57:45 PM
Quote from: S204STi on June 07, 2013, 12:52:08 PM
Had a body guy at my shop do a machine polish on the WRX. Tomorrow I'll fill in all the rock chips, then It's time for some wax. Have your recommendations changed at all with that?

Just curious:  How do you fill in your rock chips?  I tried filling a few tiny ones on the BRZ with factory touch up paint.  I couldn't get it to look decent at all and ended up removing it before it dried.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: S204STi on June 07, 2013, 03:29:56 PM
If it hits metal I get one of those primer bottles with the ballpoint pen tip and give it enough coats to nearly level it with the surface of the paint.  Then when that dries, the Subaru factory touchup with the ballpoint tip again.  Sometimes the brush is necessary and I just lay off the caffeine so I don't smear it everywhere... :lol:

It never looks quite right again, but it's better than corrosion and shit, IMO.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 07, 2013, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: S204STi on June 07, 2013, 12:52:08 PM
Had a body guy at my shop do a machine polish on the WRX. Tomorrow I'll fill in all the rock chips, then It's time for some wax. Have your recommendations changed at all with that?

Nice. Recommendations as far as...what...?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 07, 2013, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: S204STi on June 07, 2013, 03:29:56 PM
If it hits metal I get one of those primer bottles with the ballpoint pen tip and give it enough coats to nearly level it with the surface of the paint.  Then when that dries, the Subaru factory touchup with the ballpoint tip again.  Sometimes the brush is necessary and I just lay off the caffeine so I don't smear it everywhere... :lol:

It never looks quite right again, but it's better than corrosion and shit, IMO.

Yes. Touch up paint is never going to look anything close to as good as a properly sprayed/cleared paint. It's best function is to prevent corrosion for sure. And it at least keeps the paint from appearing to have lots of chips in it. Most people that look at your car will hardly notice a dab of touch up paint if it's color-matched and not applied while you're on meth...it's better than seeing metal everywhere, especially on colors that really contrast with the metal underneath (reds, dark colors, etc).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: S204STi on June 07, 2013, 03:43:00 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 07, 2013, 03:35:46 PM
Nice. Recommendations as far as...what...?

I mean, should I apply a sealant and then wax over that, or is wax fine, or just sealant by itself?  I don't want something that is going to haze and have to get sanded off...
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: S204STi on June 07, 2013, 03:43:59 PM
Also wondering how to protect polycarb lenses from hazing, other than a clear bra.  The lenses already have too many cracks to justify a clear mask.  Will save that for when I replace the lamps altogether down the road.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MX793 on June 07, 2013, 08:53:01 PM
Quote from: S204STi on June 07, 2013, 03:43:59 PM
Also wondering how to protect polycarb lenses from hazing, other than a clear bra.  The lenses already have too many cracks to justify a clear mask.  Will save that for when I replace the lamps altogether down the road.

The hazing is caused by UV.  You can buy kits that include a UV protection treatment for the lenses.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 07, 2013, 11:48:19 PM
Quote from: S204STi on June 07, 2013, 03:43:00 PM
I mean, should I apply a sealant and then wax over that, or is wax fine, or just sealant by itself?  I don't want something that is going to haze and have to get sanded off...

It's up to you. You'd be fine with waxing...sealants are essentially non-existent in stores anyhow. If a sealant/wax is difficult to remove after hazing, it's because you used too much.  People often blame the product, but it's usually user error.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 07, 2013, 11:49:06 PM
Quote from: S204STi on June 07, 2013, 03:43:59 PM
Also wondering how to protect polycarb lenses from hazing, other than a clear bra.  The lenses already have too many cracks to justify a clear mask.  Will save that for when I replace the lamps altogether down the road.

Any UV protectant. Wax, sealant, 303, sunscreen...
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: S204STi on June 08, 2013, 07:54:21 PM
Thx.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on June 08, 2013, 08:37:37 PM
Quote from: MrH on June 07, 2013, 12:57:45 PM
Just curious:  How do you fill in your rock chips? 

Turtle Wax used to make a tinted polish; a choice of red, black green, blue and who knows what else.  It was actually fairly good for making the chips much, much less noticable on the front fascia.  I can't find the red any more so I bought a bottle of black since the Miata is merlot.  The black really hides the rock chips.  I figured "what the hell" and tried ot on the 6 which is a shade between red and maroon.  It hid those chips as well. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 09, 2013, 12:27:28 PM
I believe they make a white one now, too.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: S204STi on July 02, 2013, 03:52:44 PM
I went with Nu Finish.  Initial results are pleasing; will reapply again in 30 days as recommended and see how it does.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 02, 2013, 07:50:46 PM
Now you can go through the car wash 24/7 and still get water beading!! :)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: S204STi on July 03, 2013, 07:33:39 AM
Haha, yep.  Also, with this stuff I applied it in more of a back and forth motion; should I still swirl it on like I would a paste wax?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 03, 2013, 08:55:16 AM
Either technique is fine. :ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: S204STi on July 03, 2013, 09:16:28 AM
Gotcha, thanks.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 03, 2013, 09:21:32 AM
Just make sure you're getting proper, even coverage, whichever technique you use. Which...I'm sure you did.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: S204STi on July 03, 2013, 10:29:41 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 03, 2013, 09:21:32 AM
Just make sure you're getting proper, even coverage, whichever technique you use. Which...I'm sure you did.

Yup.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on February 11, 2015, 07:06:25 AM
http://youtu.be/aVUtdlzrktI (http://youtu.be/aVUtdlzrktI)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 31, 2015, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 11, 2015, 07:06:25 AM
http://youtu.be/aVUtdlzrktI (http://youtu.be/aVUtdlzrktI)

Spot on.  Love this guy's videos.  I have glass buffing pads, which work great with normal cutting compound as I was too cheap at the time to buy the glass specific polish as well.  Still makes a world of difference and is a totally sellable service, but I'd never thought about using a razor blade.  I'll have to get me one of those long screwdriver attachment things and try it out.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: r0tor on March 31, 2015, 06:34:32 PM
I had some goop that you would put on a polishing rag wrapped around a credit card and it would soften up the touch up paint and let you level it... Worked pretty well but can't think of the name.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 05, 2015, 08:25:01 PM
Some pictures from my first two days of the detailing season...

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150504_090924_zpsmacedbgq.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150504_154307_zpsreaya7ey.jpg)

The guy's brother went hard with some rubbing compound trying to get some gunk off.  Wayyy too much pressure using the wrong cleaner.  It was like this all the way around the lower half of the car.  Nothin' some Diamond Cut and a wool pad can't take care of.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150504_133137_zpshn4mkgks.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150504_133923_zpslxxol2gh.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150504_154341_zpsp5s1ynrr.jpg)


(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150504_091101_zpsw0va3ywl.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150504_154445_zpstqxtfb8q.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150505_101545_zpscwyxxvvy.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150505_154036_zpsqucakqbs.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150505_154019_zpse1kfqsb9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 07:33:25 AM
I wish you were closer, I'd have 3 for you to do. At least 2 times during the summer.

I guess I'll just do it myself.

Anyway, You ever use Collinite waxes? I sell them here at the store and a lot of the bodyshop guys love them and the few pro detailers I sell to love the stuff.

I sell the Insulator 845, Fleetwax(paste) and get some of the Marque D'Elegance from time to time. I have a tin of that at home at it's pretty good in my non professional opinion.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 08:25:38 AM
You always seem to do a great job yourself, dunno what you need me for besides the "true" professional's touch and the time commitment. :lol:

I have used Collinite.  Awesome stuff...a friend of mine introduced me to the 845 a few years ago and I loved it.  The Audi had a couple of coats of it on one summer.  Haven't bought any myself, though...it's always enticing me when I'm browsing Autogeek, though. :lol:

Collinite is a bit too expensive to justify using on everyday vehicles for me.  I use Meguiar's #26 "Hi-Tech Yellow" carnauba and buy it by the gallon, which easily lasts me a summer, and as you can see, it does quite a good job.  Of course, half the battle of getting good results with your wax is the washing process.  I have a good stash of more expensive/higher quality polishes and waxes I use occasionally (for buff jobs, newer cars, my own car, etc.), but 90% of the time I'm grabbing for the Meguiar's.  Next year (depending on where the business is at) I may take a step up in products.  A good chunk of the stuff I use currently is from the Meguiar's Detailer series and/or the Mirror Glaze series.  It's all great stuff for the money.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 08:30:04 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 08:25:38 AM
You always seem to do a great job yourself, dunno what you need me for besides the "true" professional's touch and the time commitment. :lol:

I have used Collinite.  Awesome stuff...a friend of mine introduced me to the 845 a few years ago and I loved it.  The Audi had a couple of coats of it on one summer.  Haven't bought any myself, though...it's always enticing me when I'm browsing Autogeek, though. :lol:

Collinite is a bit too expensive to justify using on everyday vehicles for me.  I use Meguiar's #26 "Hi-Tech Yellow" carnauba and buy it by the gallon, which easily lasts me a summer, and as you can see, it does quite a good job.  Of course, half the battle of getting good results with your wax is the washing process.  I have a good stash of more expensive/higher quality polishes and waxes I use occasionally (for buff jobs, newer cars, my own car, etc.), but 90% of the time I'm grabbing for the Meguiar's.  Next year (depending on where the business is at) I may take a step up in products.  A good chunk of the stuff I use currently is from the Meguiar's Detailer series and/or the Mirror Glaze series.  It's all great stuff for the money.

I'm not bad at detailing by no means, but I'm sure I would get 75% of your results in 2 or 3x the time.

It's not too bad cost wise(the 845) but I'm sure it is no where near the price per unit of Meg's yellow in a gallon. I use #26 in paste form for my general use wax, and I have some 845 and Marque that I use if I happen to do a real thorough job of detailing and just feel like putting something "better" on.

The bulk of what I offer here for detailing is Meguiars Detailing products and mirror glaze, along with wizards, some presta products and 3M products. I have 3M, buff n shine and schlegal pads. I've used pretty much everything I've sold.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 08:36:17 AM
The one thing that I do have an issue with, compared to your results, is the underhood area.

What do you do to clean, and what do you use for dressing?

I have some Meg's APC and Super Degreaser at home. Mostly use the APC for interior stuff.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 08:44:12 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 08:30:04 AM
I'm not bad at detailing by no means, but I'm sure I would get 75% of your results in 2 or 3x the time.

It's not too bad cost wise(the 845) but I'm sure it is no where near the price per unit of Meg's yellow in a gallon. I use #26 in paste form for my general use wax, and I have some 845 and Marque that I use if I happen to do a real thorough job of detailing and just feel like putting something "better" on.

The bulk of what I offer here for detailing is Meguiars Detailing products and mirror glaze, along with wizards, some presta products and 3M products. I have 3M, buff n shine and schlegal pads. I've used pretty much everything I've sold.



Yup, that's basically my line of thinking, too.  Save the good stuff for the...good stuff. :lol:

I'd love to get into 3M's stuff for buffing and polishing, but it's tough to drop that much ca$h on a full line of products (cut, swirl remover, polish, wax, seal, all necessary pads, etc.).  So all I've done is acquire a 3M product here and there over the years.  Bought one finishing pad (8-inch Perfect-It) locally and the quality difference between it and my go-to Lake Country pads was instantly noticeable.  But that one pad was like $32 (dunno how much of a markup that is, but 3M stuff is pretty expensive locally) and the velcro pad starting coming off after a couple cleanings, so I was kinda bummed.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 09:05:55 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 08:36:17 AM
The one thing that I do have an issue with, compared to your results, is the underhood area.

What do you do to clean, and what do you use for dressing?

I have some Meg's APC and Super Degreaser at home. Mostly use the APC for interior stuff.

My underhood cleaning process is essentially:

1.  Cover anything that shouldn't directly get wet with a dry microfiber.  Air intake tube, major wiring harnesses, battery, etc., those can all be cleaned by hand after.
2.  Rinse everything, always using low pressure and as little water as possible, starting with the underside of the hood and working down into the engine bay.
3.  Spray every surface down with degreaser.  I use some "industrial purple" stuff by Zep I get at Menards by the gallon (obviously diluted...stuff is really really strong.  I also use it for tires, wheelwells, and bug gunk).  Always stand to the side of the car and spray the backsides of things, too (radiator fans/shrouds, rear of the engine, etc.).
4.  Soapy (Dawn) water and a fender brush...start by scrubbing the underside of the hood itself (the exposed metal parts, anyway) and work your way down.  Always remember to get the top of the firewall/area where it and the windshield meet.  Only scrub engine components that can be/need to be scrubbed (strut tower area, hood release area, engine cover, other miscellaneous things that are easy to get to) as the degreaser should hopefully take care of the rest.   
5.  Rinse thoroughly, again starting at the top using low pressure/volume.
6.  Inspect, re-degrease anything that isn't quite as clean as you'd like and/or give it a quick scrub.  Small brushes are nice to have on hand for tight spaces.
7.  Allow it to dry (I usually stick a fan on it while I'm doing the interior)
8.  Take some microfiber rags and go to town with some dressing; basically anything black or plastic...engine cover, rubber tubing, wiring harnesses, fan shrouds, coil packs, brake fluid cap, oil cap, etc.  I use Meguiar's Hyper Dressing.  Getting into all the nooks and crannies is critical (like on that Accord, you have to "floss" the cloth through the accordian pattern on the air intake tube).  Also wipe clean any surfaces that didn't quite get clean enough via the degrease and rinse (and anything you may have covered), and don't forget to dress the plastic at the base of the windshield/top of the firewall.

And that's really about it.  Give anything a final wipedown if it needs it such as the very top of the grille where it meets the hood, and...yeah.  All in all, I probably spend about 30-35 minutes on the process, depending on how dirty it is.  15 minutes for the initial wash and another 15 for the final wipedown and dress.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 09:24:18 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 08:44:12 AM
Yup, that's basically my line of thinking, too.  Save the good stuff for the...good stuff. :lol:

I'd love to get into 3M's stuff for buffing and polishing, but it's tough to drop that much ca$h on a full line of products (cut, swirl remover, polish, wax, seal, all necessary pads, etc.).  So all I've done is acquire a 3M product here and there over the years.  Bought one finishing pad (8-inch Perfect-It) locally and the quality difference between it and my go-to Lake Country pads was instantly noticeable.  But that one pad was like $32 (dunno how much of a markup that is, but 3M stuff is pretty expensive locally) and the velcro pad starting coming off after a couple cleanings, so I was kinda bummed.

That is spendy, must be a regional thing. Most of my 3M one sided velcro pads are 22-24 dollars, compounds are around 40 a qt and polish is around 45.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 09:45:47 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 09:24:18 AM
That is spendy, must be a regional thing. Most of my 3M one sided velcro pads are 22-24 dollars, compounds are around 40 a qt and polish is around 45.

The only place to get 3M stuff around here is NAPA/CarQuest/etc., and when you go there, you can just tell nobody buys it.  The 3M bottles are always dirty from sitting on the shelf so long.  It may be so pricey because nobody buys it or nobody buys it because it's so pricey (or both?), but yeah.  It's cheaper to get the stuff online for sure.  Same thing goes for any of the Meguiar's stuff I use, too.  Big big markup compared to buying it from the internets.  Again likely because they just don't go through a lot of it.  People love their Eagle One and Turtle Wax shit in the cool shaped bottles with shiny advertising. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 09:48:28 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 09:45:47 AM
The only place to get 3M stuff around here is NAPA/CarQuest/etc., and when you go there, you can just tell nobody buys it.  The 3M bottles are always dirty from sitting on the shelf so long.  It may be so pricey because nobody buys it or nobody buys it because it's so pricey (or both?), but yeah.  It's cheaper to get the stuff online for sure.  Same thing goes for any of the Meguiar's stuff I use, too.  Big big markup compared to buying it from the internets.  Again likely because they just don't go through a lot of it.  People love their Eagle One and Turtle Wax shit in the cool shaped bottles with shiny advertising. 

That sucks,

I'm going to have to pick up some dressing and give the underhood regimen a try. I've never been happy with how clean any of my stuff is under there.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 09:51:13 AM
Have you used any of those meguiars microfiber DA pads?

I've used them as well as the DA correction compound and polish. Not a bad system, though I like the pads most of all and I've used them with other products.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 09:58:45 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 09:51:13 AM
Have you used any of those meguiars microfiber DA pads?

I've used them as well as the DA correction compound and polish. Not a bad system, though I like the pads most of all and I've used them with other products.

I have not.  The first year I had my Flex buffer, I had Adam's Polishes pads (came as part of a package with the buffer, they were pretty "meh").  After that I started buying Lake Country and have a good stash of those at the moment.  I'll probably need to buy some fresh pads by mid-summer, though, and I've considered those...never used a microfiber pad.  Do they come in 6+ inchers?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 10:00:19 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 09:58:45 AM
I have not.  The first year I had my Flex buffer, I had Adam's Polishes pads (came as part of a package with the buffer, they were pretty "meh").  After that I started buying Lake Country and have a good stash of those at the moment.  I'll probably need to buy some fresh pads by mid-summer, though, and I've considered those...never used a microfiber pad.  Do they come in 6+ inchers?

They are 6" and 5". Microfiber face with a varying thinkness of foam for the cutting aspect. Seems to work pretty well the few times I've used them.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 10:20:49 AM
Well good.  The backing pad on my buffer is 5.5", so I always have to go 6+.  All of my current pads are 6.5".  I don't think I've used a true 6" pad on it before...do you know if they're big enough to fit a 5.5 backing?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 10:32:18 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 10:20:49 AM
Well good.  The backing pad on my buffer is 5.5", so I always have to go 6+.  All of my current pads are 6.5".  I don't think I've used a true 6" pad on it before...do you know if they're big enough to fit a 5.5 backing?

Yes, they will fit a 5.5" backer. They are exactly 6" I believe and the fit flush on a typical 6" velcro D/A pad.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 10:40:46 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 10:32:18 AM
Yes, they will fit a 5.5" backer. They are exactly 6" I believe and the fit flush on a typical 6" velcro D/A pad.

Nice.  I'll have to give 'em a try next time I get some pads.  What I go through most of are finishing pads since those are what I use to wax nearly every vehicle.  Microfiber might be a bit more durable and easier to clean.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 10:42:26 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 10:40:46 AM
Nice.  I'll have to give 'em a try next time I get some pads.  What I go through most of are finishing pads since those are what I use to wax nearly every vehicle.  Microfiber might be a bit more durable and easier to clean.

There thickest pad would work great for was application and I'd agree would probably be easier to clean.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 10:46:44 AM
Out of curiosity, did you notice any differences between my underhood cleaning process and what you've been doing?  I used to suck at it.  I was always super nervous about getting things wet, but eventually I got past that and my results improved a lot.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 10:50:25 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 10:46:44 AM
Out of curiosity, did you notice any differences between my underhood cleaning process and what you've been doing?  I used to suck at it.  I was always super nervous about getting things wet, but eventually I got past that and my results improved a lot.

I've in the past just used a pressure washer on the surrounding area's and very little on the motor. Only sometimes did I use a precleaner. The rest of my work was usually using mild cleaners by hand with microfiber towels. So it was a lot of work and very "patchy" results.

I've just never gotten to crazy on the underhood. Up to a year ago I wouldn't even was(with water) out of fear of damaging something. So I used to do all of it by hand. Obviously the larger exposed areas turned out well but thinks like hoses and wire looms never looked good.

I'm going to try your way and I'm sure it will turn out way better than what I'm looking for.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 11:00:51 AM
Yeah, once I started soaking everything with degreaser after the initial rinse, it made things much better.  And with a good degreaser, you can trust that it's loosening a solid majority of the gunk so you don't need to use a frightening amount of water/pressure, just enough to get it all rinsed off well. 

I washed the engine bay of my parents' Grand Marquis (long gone now) one time and when I turned it back on to pull it into the garage, it started idling really high (way higher than a normal "cold start," like 2500-3000rpm high).  Scared me.  I got it in and shut it off quick before I did any damage, but it was completely fine the next day when it was driven.  Not sure if it actually had anything to do with something I did or if it was just being weird.  Haven't had anything like that happen before or since, thankfully.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 11:02:09 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 11:00:51 AM
Yeah, once I started soaking everything with degreaser after the initial rinse, it made things much better.  And with a good degreaser, you can trust that it's loosening a solid majority of the gunk so you don't need to use a frightening amount of water/pressure, just enough to get it all rinsed off well. 

I washed the engine bay of my parents' Grand Marquis (long gone now) one time and when I turned it back on to pull it into the garage, it started idling really high (way higher than a normal "cold start," like 2500-3000rpm high).  Scared me.  I got it in and shut it off quick before I did any damage, but it was completely fine the next day when it was driven.  Not sure if it actually had anything to do with something I did or if it was just being weird. 

If I'm worried about it I'll use the air compressor and blow off the bulk of the vulnerable spots.

What type of degreaser do you use? Zep Purple? What dillution do you use?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 11:10:44 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 11:02:09 AM
If I'm worried about it I'll use the air compressor and blow off the bulk of the vulnerable spots.

What type of degreaser do you use? Zep Purple? What dillution do you use?

That's a good idea.  I need to get me a little pancake compressor for stuff like that.  Air is also good for blowing crap out from under/between seats and small cracks between adjoining interior panels.

Yep, Zep Industrial Purple.  $10/gallon.  Bottle says to use 5oz/gallon for light soils and 20/gallon for heavy.  I'll usually drop around 5 ounces into a 32oz sprayer, so it's essentially mixed for "heavy" cleaning and it does a great job on engines, tires, wheelwells, etc. 

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 11:13:29 AM
I'll have to take a look at menards next time I'm there, probably should grab some spray bottles and their cheap microfibers anyway.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 11:13:29 AM
I'll have to take a look at menards next time I'm there, probably should grab some spray bottles and their cheap microfibers anyway.

For sure.  Sprayers at Menards are usually good.  I have a lot of Zep ones and a few Rubbermaid ones from them.  Prefer the Zeps and I haven't seen them carry the Rubbermaids in a while.  Only chemical they can't handle is Meg's Wheel Brightener.  I have to use chemical-resistant sprayer caps for that, no matter the dilution.  But, since I pretty much only use that stuff on wheels, I have it in a 1.5gallon garden sprayer and the same thing for the degreaser I use for tires/wheelwells/bumpers.  Spray bottles get pretty tiresome to use after a while.  Garden sprayer is a lot faster and easier and I only have to re-fill them 1-2 times a week at most, as opposed to every single wash when I was using 32oz spray bottles.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 11:21:21 AM
Hmm, never thought of the garden sprayer, would make degreasing a lot easier. Especially with a nice wand on the end of it(getting up in the wheel wells, etc).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 11:29:35 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 11:21:21 AM
Hmm, never thought of the garden sprayer, would make degreasing a lot easier. Especially with a nice wand on the end of it(getting up in the wheel wells, etc).

Yeah, it made a world of difference for me.  I have my wash bucket, brushes, and two garden sprayers on a little dolly cart that I wheel around the car while I wash.  Sooooo much better than trying to carry two spray bottles, wash bucket, and 5 or 6 different brushes from corner to corner when doing the wheels/tires/wheelwells.  The sprayers have been surprisingly chemical resistant, too.  Only had to replace one wand because I left it in the garage over the winter and whatever was still in it froze and cracked the brass.  All seals are still good.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 11:51:27 AM
This is the cart I use.  Just the cheap-o brand at Menards, "Xtreme Garage," but it's identical to the Tool Shop one.  Works perfect for my use.  Only thing I'd like is to find longer hoses for my garden sprayers so I can ratchet strap the tanks to the push bar...they have a tendency to bounce around and fall off, especially once they're getting low on solution.  The stock hoses are 4', which is decent, but I still have to take the sprayer off the cart so that I can get nice and close, into deeper spots, and hit an entire front bumper or something.  Some 10' hoses would be awesommmmmmme.

(http://www.menards.com/main/store/20090519001/items/media/Hardware/GREAT030/ProductLarge/217-0210.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 11:53:02 AM
I'd think you could make your own or go to someplace that does custom hoses(air/liquid) and have a few made up.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 11:56:33 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 11:53:02 AM
I'd think you could make your own or go to someplace that does custom hoses(air/liquid) and have a few made up.

Yeah.  I haven't actually gotten a replacement wand for the one that cracked yet, so I'm gonna do some investigating with it and see if I can rig something up.  Shouldn't be too difficult.  Just need to find proper diameters and fittings; replacement wands are readily available at Tractor Supply and probably Menards.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 02:22:41 PM
Today's job.  I think this is the 4th year I've done this truck.  Same owner as yesterday's GMC Terrain.  Single-cab trucks are my favorite.  Nice and quick for the same $$$$.  So I can either take my sweet time or get it done quickly.  Today was more of a take my time day as I was in and out of this thread multiple times throughout the day chattin' it up. :lol:

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 06, 2015, 02:36:58 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 02:22:41 PM
Today was more of a take my time day as I was in and out of this thread multiple times throughout the day chattin' it up. :lol:


I was going to say something about that. I figured you should be working rather than dicking around on the internet all day. That's for us office people.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 02:57:01 PM
It can be easy to do when you work alone and the entire garage is your office.  I've got my laptop, speakers, and printer all set up at one end of the workbench.  I could've had that truck done in probably 4 hours or less instead of 7 if I'd wanted to. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 06, 2015, 02:57:59 PM
And the guy didn't want it back until 3 at the earliest because he had an appointment at 1, so I felt no rush.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 11, 2015, 10:45:19 AM
Another good little trick I like is that I always put a few ounces of Hyper Dressing in my spray bottle of interior cleaner.  Gives interior surfaces just a little bit of shine without feeling greasy.  Lasts quite a while, too.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 11, 2015, 10:58:49 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 11, 2015, 10:45:19 AM
Another good little trick I like is that I always put a few ounces of Hyper Dressing in my spray bottle of interior cleaner.  Gives interior surfaces just a little bit of shine without feeling greasy.  Lasts quite a while, too.

I'd like to see some before after interior pics next time, if you are into it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 11, 2015, 11:09:28 AM
That I can do.  Didn't do any pictures today 'cause it's raining and I just wanted to get the thing washed and inside.  Just finished up the interior, which made me think about that.  I've got a Charger and a truck I'm doing interiors on tomorrow so I'll get some pictures. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on May 11, 2015, 02:13:37 PM
Hyper dressing sounds like an Xtreme topping for a salad.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 11, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
I don't eat salad. The only things I put dressing on are tires, rubber and plastic trim, and other stuff that looks better when shiny. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on May 12, 2015, 12:00:05 AM
Salad looks better when shiny.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 12, 2015, 07:37:33 AM
Try some Hyper Dressing on it next time.  It smells good, so it must taste good, too, right?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 12, 2015, 07:15:41 PM
Alright...took some before/after interior pictures.  As you can see, they don't turn out quite as nicely as exterior pictures so I hope they're at least helpful or indicative of what I do.  Mostly lighting issues mixed with using a camera phone.  I should have taken After pictures for the Charger outside instead of in the garage since it was overcast, which gives a better wash of light compared to the intense contrasts direct sunlight creates).  But it was snowing off and on and bullshit so I didn't bother.  The guy showed up to pick up the truck before I pulled it out of the garage, so only got shots from inside the garage as well.  Anyways... 


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^^^ The plastic part of the mat is shiny 'cause it's still wet.  I just let them air dry and then wipe the plastic part clean later.


This truck was a dirty one.  Two layers of rubber/plastic mats.  Those are what make it look so dirty...the carpet underneath was very clean...a good example of why those form-fitted mats from companies like WeatherTech aren't a bad idea at all.
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Here's the truck, to give you an idea...I washed it but didn't get any pictures.  Oh well.  It cleaned up really nicely, though. 
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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on May 14, 2015, 09:46:55 AM
As much as I want to do a nice wax/detail job on my car, this weather is not that great for it....I'm guessing. Snow, rain and then when it's dry out, the constant dust from unpaved roads or roads that aren't that well maintained and falling apart (of which there are many). Then you have the incense pods/pollen from the cedar trees which spreads a nice layer of stuff all over. Other trees do similar things, with pines being some of the worst with their tree sap which could double as Gorilla Glue.

I might have to put the waxing off to June, when it might get warmer....though it seems to be getting progressively colder as we move deeper into spring. I got all the supplies recommended by Chris, so it's all ready to go. Beyond that, there is a DIY car wash not that far up the 18 and so eventually....I'll be utilizing that.

Whoever owns that is pretty lucky because that's the only DIY car wash on the mountain.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on May 14, 2015, 09:49:11 AM
The cars are looking good Chris! Seems like ya got quite a bit of business, which is always a good thing.

And you know, I don't think that guard grill on that Chevy is big or manly enough.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 14, 2015, 10:25:39 AM
His excuse was "I wanted to make sure I could smack a deer going 60 and still make it home."
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 14, 2015, 10:46:00 AM
Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on May 14, 2015, 09:46:55 AM
As much as I want to do a nice wax/detail job on my car, this weather is not that great for it....I'm guessing. Snow, rain and then when it's dry out, the constant dust from unpaved roads or roads that aren't that well maintained and falling apart (of which there are many). Then you have the incense pods/pollen from the cedar trees which spreads a nice layer of stuff all over. Other trees do similar things, with pines being some of the worst with their tree sap which could double as Gorilla Glue.


Welcome to my life.  As long as we keep having strong winters and pine trees keep growing, I'll continue to have cars to clean.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on May 14, 2015, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 12, 2015, 07:15:41 PM
Alright...took some before/after interior pictures.  As you can see, they don't turn out quite as nicely as exterior pictures so I hope they're at least helpful or indicative of what I do.  Mostly lighting issues mixed with using a camera phone.  I should have taken After pictures for the Charger outside instead of in the garage since it was overcast, which gives a better wash of light compared to the intense contrasts direct sunlight creates).  But it was snowing off and on and bullshit so I didn't bother.  The guy showed up to pick up the truck before I pulled it out of the garage, so only got shots from inside the garage as well.  Anyways... 


Looks good.

A hint.   Clean the gas, brake and clutch pedal rubber and treat with rubber dressing.  Then really wipe the ribbed surfaces well so they are not slick.  Do the same for the rubber/vinyl insert in the driver's floor mat. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 14, 2015, 02:53:33 PM
Nah, I completely refuse to put anything slippery on the pedals whether or not I plan to wipe it off later.  Floor mats, yes, I dress them, but never pedals. :huh:

I clean pedals lightly, but never dress.  Nobody cares that much and not one person has ever asked "why aren't the pedals as clean as xxxx??" so why bother.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 14, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Basically, I'd rather hear one tiny complaint, "why aren't the pedals clean enough?" than one giant complaint, "the brake pedal was too clean and I drove into McDonald's!"

Am I fully confident that I could dress them, wipe them, and not have them be slippery at all?  Yes, absolutely.  But I'd rather not, as I go through tens upon tens of vehicles working with tens upon tens of strangers.  You never know what crazy nutjob is gonna try to get at you for something stupid.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on May 14, 2015, 07:34:12 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 14, 2015, 02:53:33 PM
Nah, I completely refuse to put anything slippery on the pedals whether or not I plan to wipe it off later.  Floor mats, yes, I dress them, but never pedals. :huh:

I clean pedals lightly, but never dress.  Nobody cares that much and not one person has ever asked "why aren't the pedals as clean as xxxx??" so why bother.


You are not as anal as I am. 

It's a habit I picked up for concours competition when I owned the E-type.   Judges will deduct for specks of lint, water spots, any dirt.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Cookie Monster on May 14, 2015, 07:43:30 PM
I think it's less of him being anal and more of him trying to cover his ass against stupid people or lawsuits for covering their pedals in slippery stuff and "causing" them to crash.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 14, 2015, 08:06:04 PM
Quote from: CLKid on May 14, 2015, 07:34:12 PM

You are not as anal as I am. 

It's a habit I picked up for concours competition when I owned the E-type.   Judges will deduct for specks of lint, water spots, any dirt.

Uhhh if I was detailing classics for concours....I'd be doing that shit. These are every day vehicles driven by every day people who don't give a fuck. Huuuuuuuge difference.  No average person gives a shit about how clean the pedals are.  So, I don't do it because I don't want some idiot blaming me for their slippery pedals.

I have a lot bigger things to worry about. Like salt stains, door jambs that haven't been cleaned in 3 years, Johnny's puke stain in the back seat, the 17 melted gummy bears under the seat, the layer of dust covering every single interior surface possible, a year's worth of use with zero cleaning since the last time i detailed it, 17,389 individual dog hairs, etc...dressing pedals is the least of anyone's concern. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on May 14, 2015, 08:19:59 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 14, 2015, 10:25:39 AM
His excuse was "I wanted to make sure I could smack a deer going 60 and still make it home."

Hmm.

Not too sure if I buy that one.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 14, 2015, 08:21:59 PM
Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on May 14, 2015, 08:19:59 PM
Hmm.

Not too sure if I buy that one.

I absolutely believe it. It's literally why he bought it. He smacked a deer with that truck and said "fuck that" and got a big ol brush guard. :huh:

It's overkill, but...oh well. He gives me money. lol
Title: Re: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CALL_911 on May 14, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on May 14, 2015, 08:19:59 PM
Hmm.

Not too sure if I buy that one.

Have you lived in a place rife with deer
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on May 14, 2015, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 14, 2015, 08:21:59 PM
I absolutely believe it. It's literally why he bought it. He smacked a deer with that truck and said "fuck that" and got a big ol brush guard. :huh:

It's overkill, but...oh well. He gives me money. lol

Well, maybe so but like you said....it's a little overkill.

Quote from: CALL_911 on May 14, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Have you lived in a place rife with deer

Prior to last August, no. But now I do.

We got a nice selection of wildlife up here, including deer. We also got black bears (hence the town Big Bear and way back when Lake Arrowhead was known as Little Bear Lake). I have yet to see any bears but they most certainly exist and are far from endangered. I imagine a car crash with a grown bear would do quite a bit of damage. Mountain lions are around too but those, unlike bears and deer, are more skittish of humans and by extension, cars.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on May 14, 2015, 10:12:52 PM
There are more deer per road mile in the upper midwest than probably anywhere else in the country.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on May 14, 2015, 10:22:56 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 14, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Basically, I'd rather hear one tiny complaint, "why aren't the pedals clean enough?" than one giant complaint, "the brake pedal was too clean and I drove into McDonald's!"

Am I fully confident that I could dress them, wipe them, and not have them be slippery at all?  Yes, absolutely.  But I'd rather not, as I go through tens upon tens of vehicles working with tens upon tens of strangers.  You never know what crazy nutjob is gonna try to get at you for something stupid.

My mistake, I thought you were talking about your own cars.  I wouldn't do that to customers cars either.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on May 14, 2015, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: Rupert on May 14, 2015, 10:12:52 PM
There are more deer per road mile in the upper midwest than probably anywhere else in the country.

I believe it.

I saw some when I went snowshoeing the last few days I was there and it was a pretty cool sight. I don't know much about deer, but I was under the impression that during the winter, they tend to go into hiding or just in general don't move around as much. But sure enough, this group was out and about. Though a quick google search indicates deer don't go more than 1/4 mile away from their winter cover area.

So maybe that explains it and also why other than that instance, I don't remember seeing any. It was a neat sight to see them going through the snow, when everything else around them was dormant and still. Twas a very interesting contrast and certainly one that I had never seen before.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on May 15, 2015, 12:44:52 AM
Quote from: Rupert on May 14, 2015, 10:12:52 PM
There are more deer per road mile in the upper midwest than probably anywhere else in the country.

I've almost hit a couple In my own driveway.  We have a herd, if 9 can be considered a herd, that regularly, almost daily, strolls around the back and side yards.  And I'm in town, heaven only knows what it's like outside the city limits.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CALL_911 on May 15, 2015, 01:10:05 AM
I've had a few close calls with deer. Last one I can think of, my friend was driving down a 2 lane road when Bambi prances out of nowhere, my friend stops just short, and the deer slams into the side of a Kia Sedona. Bambi flops down and looks like a corpse at this point, and the Kia now has a nice little alcove in its rear 3/4 panel.

Bambi springs to life in a second and happily trots the fuck away, Kia still has said alcove. Fucking deer indeed (although they are nice to watch when they're far, far away from your car)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on May 16, 2015, 12:54:56 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 14, 2015, 08:06:04 PM
Uhhh if I was detailing classics for concours....I'd be doing that shit. These are every day vehicles driven by every day people who don't give a fuck. Huuuuuuuge difference.  No average person gives a shit about how clean the pedals are.  So, I don't do it because I don't want some idiot blaming me for their slippery pedals.

I have a lot bigger things to worry about. Like salt stains, door jambs that haven't been cleaned in 3 years, Johnny's puke stain in the back seat, the 17 melted gummy bears under the seat, the layer of dust covering every single interior surface possible, a year's worth of use with zero cleaning since the last time i detailed it, 17,389 individual dog hairs, etc...dressing pedals is the least of anyone's concern. :lol:

I just spent the last three days detailing the CLK and 6.  Clay bar, polish and wax on the exterior (Meguires products, love 'em) along with a through cleaning of the interiors, even the seat belts on the CLK since they are light beige and really looked dingy after 13 years and 107,000 miles.  And yes, I cleaned and treated the pedals.   :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 15, 2015, 03:28:09 PM
giant_mtb,

what do you use for interior cleaner?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 15, 2015, 04:01:52 PM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on June 15, 2015, 03:28:09 PM
giant_mtb,

what do you use for interior cleaner?

10 parts bleach : 1 part deionized water.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 16, 2015, 07:32:21 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on June 15, 2015, 03:28:09 PM
giant_mtb,

what do you use for interior cleaner?

For like door panels and dashboard and such?  Meg's Quik Interior mixed with a dash of Hyper Dressing.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 16, 2015, 08:37:47 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 16, 2015, 07:32:21 AM
For like door panels and dashboard and such?  Meg's Quik Interior mixed with a dash of Hyper Dressing.

What about like fabrics?

For carpet stain spot treatment prior to scrubbing(or do you just use the extractor vac).

Also for sensitive stuff like fabric seat inserts(suede, etc) or headliners.

I've been using Meguiars APC in various dilutions, works well on headliners and light fabrics. Not the best on heavily soiled carpets(I just use it on carpets and then hand scrub and then use a regular shop vac).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 16, 2015, 10:06:03 AM
The extractor takes care of most things, but I still have to pre treat and scrub a lot of salt stains and heavier stains. For spot stains and pre treatment I just use a stronger solution of the shampoo I use in the extractor.  I get my shampoo from Menards, so it's either Zep Premium Carpet Shampoo or the Ecolab Clean Strike 3 in 1 carpet cleaner.  I like the Ecolab stuff better, but the Zep has a better scent (just tried the Zep for the first time yesterday). I might switch to using Zep only in the extractor and Ecolab in the spray bottle for spots and pretreatment. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 16, 2015, 10:09:02 AM
I haven't honestly dealt with any (real) suede.  Should be able to clean it similarly to any other fabric, just be gentle, I guess.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 16, 2015, 02:18:37 PM
I tried using Meg's Non-Acid Wheel & Tire cleaner today instead of my usual Meg's Wheel Brightener (which I believe is acid-based).  It works pretty well and is a good cleaner, but it just doesn't quite compare to the Wheel Brightener, especially for cleaning/removing stuff like rail dust and light corrosion. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on June 17, 2015, 10:49:56 AM
I've got to go clean the CLk after a 3,700 mile road trip.  It should take the rest of the day.  I've already pulled the bird I hit out of the grill.  Funny that you can actually feel the thump when you hit a sparrow size bird at 75 MPH.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 17, 2015, 07:37:51 PM
My buddy is bringing his KX500 to town and is gonna let me detail it.  Excited. Never done a dirtbike before. All the same principles apply, just on a different scale with a different machine.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on June 18, 2015, 12:05:50 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 17, 2015, 07:37:51 PM
My buddy is bringing his KX500 to town and is gonna let me detail it.  Excited. Never done a dirtbike before. All the same principles apply, just on a different scale with a different machine.

Think it'll take you more time or less time than a regular car?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on June 18, 2015, 06:28:32 PM
Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on May 14, 2015, 08:19:59 PM
Hmm.

Not too sure if I buy that one.

I've got pics of what a medium sized deer will do to a Honda Pilot around here somewhere...
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 18, 2015, 08:59:08 PM
Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on June 18, 2015, 12:05:50 PM
Think it'll take you more time or less time than a regular car?

Put about 2.5 hours into it.  I'd have to go nuts on it to take as long as a car. Dirt bikes are pretty easy. Degreaser, and plenty of it. I'll post pics another time.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on June 19, 2015, 09:19:51 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 18, 2015, 06:28:32 PM
I've got pics of what a medium sized deer will do to a Honda Pilot around here somewhere...

Alright. Alright. I believe you guys.

:lol: ;)

I'm thinking about getting a guard grill for Lexus but I don't need one that's too gnarly, which is what some people go for. I also want some fog lights to go with it, which a lot of people around here seem to have on their trucks and other vehicles. It can get ridiculously foggy for days on end in certain parts of the mountain but I think the question is how effective are they in that fog.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 2o6 on June 19, 2015, 10:56:43 AM
What do you guys use for cloth interiors? The Vibe isn't bad, but it's still kinda gross, most notably the headliner
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 19, 2015, 11:33:36 AM
I use a APC(All purpose cleaner) from meguires detail line. I have a few bottles of different dillutions. Works well as a spot treater, general scrubbing and even on light soils(just saturate and scrub up with a microfiber rag).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 19, 2015, 12:33:13 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on June 19, 2015, 10:56:43 AM
What do you guys use for cloth interiors? The Vibe isn't bad, but it's still kinda gross, most notably the headliner

3-in-1.  Dilute to desired strength for spot/stain removal, pre-treatment, or general shampooing.  $10/gallon.  Only need ~5 ounces per 32oz. spray bottle.

(http://www.cleanstrikecleaners.com/images/cache/ac9c7d9f9e4961ca7fb5141a267a02f92e711b4a.jpg)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 19, 2015, 12:46:37 PM
What about the zep stuff you mentioned?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 19, 2015, 12:50:56 PM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on June 19, 2015, 12:46:37 PM
What about the zep stuff you mentioned?

http://www.zepcommercial.com/product/Premium-Carpet-Shampoo (http://www.zepcommercial.com/product/Premium-Carpet-Shampoo)

It claims to be more shampoo/deep cleaner than stain remover.  I have the 3-in-1 in my pretreat/stain spray bottle and Zep in da extractor. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 19, 2015, 01:00:36 PM
ahh, got it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 19, 2015, 01:27:01 PM
HEAT is the biggest thing that helps the extractor.  It doesn't take much shampoo (4-6oz/gallon, depending on the chosen shampoo).  When your solution is running through a 1000W heater, it makes a world of difference.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on June 19, 2015, 01:33:01 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 18, 2015, 08:59:08 PM
Put about 2.5 hours into it.  I'd have to go nuts on it to take as long as a car. Dirt bikes are pretty easy. Degreaser, and plenty of it. I'll post pics another time.

I know you like detailing cars but must be nice to switch it up every so often with something different.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 19, 2015, 01:33:44 PM
KX500.  Used almost two 32oz. bottles of (diluted) degreaser.  Having the Speed Master Wheel Brush was a huge help.   

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_204808_zpsdkajeduw.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150619_104737_zpsammu35pn.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_204802_zpsyijlmpsx.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150619_104754_zps0jegqgdc.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150619_104928_zpsnejbcmri.jpg)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on June 19, 2015, 01:35:53 PM
Nice work.

:ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 19, 2015, 01:40:26 PM
Any pictures of it after you cleaned it?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 2o6 on June 19, 2015, 01:48:07 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 19, 2015, 12:33:13 PM
3-in-1.  Dilute to desired strength for spot/stain removal, pre-treatment, or general shampooing.  $10/gallon.  Only need ~5 ounces per 32oz. spray bottle.

(http://www.cleanstrikecleaners.com/images/cache/ac9c7d9f9e4961ca7fb5141a267a02f92e711b4a.jpg)



Do I work it in and suck it out with speci tools?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 19, 2015, 01:48:54 PM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on June 19, 2015, 01:40:26 PM
Any pictures of it after you cleaned it?

Whaaa?  Are you not seeing before/after?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 19, 2015, 01:50:18 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on June 19, 2015, 01:48:07 PM


Do I work it in and suck it out with speci tools?

Dilute into spray bottle.  Spray onto stain (or all over for general shampooing).  Scrub with a carpet brush.  Suck up with ShopVac.  Repeat if necessary for tough stains.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 19, 2015, 02:01:20 PM
Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on June 19, 2015, 01:33:01 PM
I know you like detailing cars but must be nice to switch it up every so often with something different.

For sure.  It's nice to see something different once in a while. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on June 19, 2015, 02:02:49 PM
What are all the marks below the handlebars/above the Kawasaki logo? They look like dents or chips but can't really tell.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 19, 2015, 03:03:44 PM
Part of the design of the graphics kit.  If you look closely, both sides are the same pattern.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on June 19, 2015, 05:19:46 PM
Ah. I see it now.

Not sure if I like the paint scheme but nice bike otherwise.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 19, 2015, 05:33:21 PM
My friend wasn't too sure about the graphics, either.  I said wait til you see it cleaned up. Who knows what he'll do.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 19, 2015, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 19, 2015, 01:48:54 PM
Whaaa?  Are you not seeing before/after?

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 19, 2015, 09:07:18 PM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on June 19, 2015, 07:51:11 PM
:rolleyes:

...sorry, I'm confused.  Never know with Photobucket.  :huh:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 20, 2015, 10:56:33 AM
Cleaned up mom's Q5 the other day as well.  Brought back memories of detailing the A4.  Used DP Poli Coat sealant instead of my usual wax.  Gold "jeweling" pad (super soft, no cut).  Sealants provide similar or better aesthetic improvements compared to wax (and often clean better depending on the chemicals) while providing better, longer-lasting protection.  Pricier, though.

Paint could realllllllllly use a good cleaning (clay bar, etc.), as could most any car in the UP after winter.  My mom takes my digs at automatic car washes as instructions to never wash the car unless it's me doing it.  MOM, WASH IT MOAR.  I AIN'T GOT TIME FOR DIS.  :lol:

But...this is how I pay them back for using their garage all the time, I guess.  Can't wait til I have my own garage so I can charge them.  (Kidding, I'd never charge my parents)

http://www.autogeek.net/dp-poli-coat-paint-sealant.html (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-poli-coat-paint-sealant.html)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_111026_zps5vogqvx0.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_172152_zpsk8biiaxf.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_111008_zpseunx8dmq.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_172214_zpspdqxszfq.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_110952_zpswtzthy2y.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_172228_zpsuwwjo2d5.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_111033_zpsne851oqm.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_172320_zpslnvh734x.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_110936_zpsvyu9xokj.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_172256_zpsx0kg9cw9.jpg)

This photo shows how awesome the Speed Master Wheel Brush is.  With cars getting bigger and bigger wheels, the insides are a lot more visible, so keeping them clean can make a pretty decent aesthetic difference.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_172307_zpshftkrgcx.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 20, 2015, 01:27:47 PM
Here's the '93 Ranger interior I did the other day.  It was raining outside by the time I finished, so the "after" pictures were taken inside the garage...they'd look a lot better if I'd been able to take them outside (or if I had even more fluorescent tubes in the garage).  Fun project, though...my dad had a '93 Explorer for a while and it was what both of my brothers drove as their first vehicle when they turned 16.  I basically grew up with it.  Was never really "into" detailing by the time we got rid of it, so detailing this Ranger was a neat little blast from the past (interior is basically identical to the Explorer).  For a 22 year old, it turned out very nicely; it's in great shape for its age, just really needed a deep cleaning.  Spent about 5-6 hours on it.  And yes, it's just a 2-door regular cab...22 years of accumulation takes time, from vacuuming and shampooing every square inch of fabric including the headliner to removing the years of dust and grime on all the plastics, panels, and door jambs.  5-speed, gutless, but fun to drive.  I'd love it if he let me clean up the exterior some time this summer.  It would really benefit.  Mostly, though, he was just aiming to get the interior done and get the general smells and age out of it.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150617_094823_zps7cj0vodq.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150617_165414_zpsjs2h1yps.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150617_094858_zpsixkralte.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150617_165444_zpsdpv4ybpm.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150617_101546_zpsbjr5yorn.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150617_165341_zpsdcjm4i0h.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 20, 2015, 01:45:52 PM
Hmmmmmmm, this could be extremely advantageous and time-saving.  It's hard to drop $50 without trying, though, especially when they have Fine and Medium grade and I'm not sure which would work best for me...I'll throw a fine grade in on my next order.

http://www.autogeek.net/nanoskin-autoscrub-wash-mitt-fine-grade.html (http://www.autogeek.net/nanoskin-autoscrub-wash-mitt-fine-grade.html)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 20, 2015, 07:36:00 PM
Just about got the miata wrapped up.

Spent a few (6) hours this morning polishing and then put a couple coats of hand wax on(broke out the Marque d'Elegance, fancy).

This color is gorgeous, I think this is the prettiest NB I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 68_427 on June 21, 2015, 04:58:31 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on June 20, 2015, 07:36:00 PM
Just about got the miata wrapped up.

Spent a few (6) hours this morning polishing and then put a couple coats of hand wax on(broke out the Marque d'Elegance, fancy).

This color is gorgeous, I think this is the prettiest NB I've ever seen.

Love the latest update to that thread you've got going on
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 21, 2015, 06:29:55 AM
Is that sarcasm?

I'm going to finish cleaning it tonight or tomorrow and then get some final pictures. Then I'll start the intro/build thread in the garage.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on June 21, 2015, 03:44:46 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 20, 2015, 01:45:52 PM
Hmmmmmmm, this could be extremely advantageous and time-saving.  It's hard to drop $50 without trying, though, especially when they have Fine and Medium grade and I'm not sure which would work best for me...I'll throw a fine grade in on my next order.

http://www.autogeek.net/nanoskin-autoscrub-wash-mitt-fine-grade.html (http://www.autogeek.net/nanoskin-autoscrub-wash-mitt-fine-grade.html)

This guy liked it:
https://youtu.be/v7n0SDeJJ1A (https://youtu.be/v7n0SDeJJ1A)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2015, 04:00:54 PM
Yeeee, ordered one today along with a couple more gallons of wheel cleaner and a few brushes and applicators.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 21, 2015, 08:42:00 PM
Got the miata detail all done. Kind of rushed through the rest of it, dieing to get it done and drive it. Took a bunch of pictures I'll start a thread tomorrow. Went on a drive when I was done. :lol:

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2015, 09:19:30 PM
Did you spraydetail the paint, wheels, and re-dress the tires when you got back? :)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 21, 2015, 09:23:51 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 21, 2015, 09:19:30 PM
Did you spraydetail the paint, wheels, and re-dress the tires when you got back? :)

Nope, the car will never be this clean again. I stopped caring years ago when it cam3 down to choosing between driving and cleaning. So now i just do one full detail, snap a bunch of pictures for the "file" and then drive it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on June 22, 2015, 08:54:09 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 21, 2015, 04:00:54 PM
Yeeee, ordered one today along with a couple more gallons of wheel cleaner and a few brushes and applicators.

If the mitt works as advertised it will be a huge timesaver.  What products do you currently use after the claybarring is done?

(I keep two cars garaged and one outside - detailed all three about six months ago. The indoor cars have retained their claybarred smoothness. The paint on the outdoor car is already embedded with crud.)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 22, 2015, 10:06:11 AM
Yeah, the mitt will be awesome. Cars get gunked up so quickly around here. It'll allow me to provide a smoother finish and better surface for waxing with minimal extra effort. It will just become an extra step in the wash process.

After clay barring is done?  Depends on the job. But 90% of the time I'm buffing after I clay, so I use a number of products on the paint after claying. Compounds, polishes, waxes or sealants, etc.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 22, 2015, 11:18:41 AM
I remember when those nano mitts came out. I had a sales rep and the vice president of one of the companies that makes them stop in. Seemed kind of cool, but even those two had some issues with getting the "ease of use" and "speed" down.

The better one I saw had a velcro back and attached to a da or polisher. That would be the ticket, IMO.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 01, 2015, 08:26:38 AM
Nano mitt came in a shipment on Monday. Today will be it's maiden voyage. The works for a 2012ish black Dodge Ram. Or is it just a Ram. I dunno. Either way, I'm pumped to see how it works out. Pics.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 01, 2015, 08:32:47 AM
Stopped by menards the other day, found myself in the auto isle for no good reason(checking to see if microfibers where on sale). 10 pack grey microfibers for 2.99, grabbed a few packages, some cheap sponges, some cheap brushes, etc.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 01, 2015, 09:00:28 AM
Save big money at Menarrrrrrds.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on July 01, 2015, 09:58:24 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on July 01, 2015, 08:32:47 AM
Stopped by menards the other day, found myself in the auto isle for no good reason(checking to see if microfibers where on sale). 10 pack grey microfibers for 2.99, grabbed a few packages, some cheap sponges, some cheap brushes, etc.

What size were the microfiber cloths? 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on July 01, 2015, 10:06:22 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 22, 2015, 08:54:09 AM
What products do you currently use after the claybarring is done?


I do the following in order, with Meguires' products :
Clean engine compartment***
Wash*
Dry*
Clay bar**
Polish**
Wax**

Vacuum carpet*
Clean leather or vacuum upholstery**
Clean hard surfaces**
Clean glass*
Vacuum trunk*

* as needed
** twice a year
*** once a year

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 01, 2015, 10:48:33 AM
Yep, this clay bar mitt is the shit.  Wash normally, rinse, wash again to lay down some soapy water for lube, dunk the matt, and work section by section rinsing it in between. Using Dawn and Meg's D111 Shampoo Plus. Slippery slippery.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 01, 2015, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: CLKid on July 01, 2015, 09:58:24 AM
What size were the microfiber cloths? 

Smaller, like 10x10 or right around there.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on July 01, 2015, 12:19:54 PM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on July 01, 2015, 11:49:55 AM
Smaller, like 10x10 or right around there.

Not a bad deal for a pack of 10. 

I need to find some large microfiber towels for drying the cars.  I have 3 or 4 about 2'X2' I use for polishing and waxing.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 01, 2015, 12:34:22 PM
Quote from: CLKid on July 01, 2015, 12:19:54 PM
Not a bad deal for a pack of 10. 

I need to find some large microfiber towels for drying the cars.  I have 3 or 4 about 2'X2' I use for polishing and waxing.

Meguiars makes a larger towel for drying. I've got a few of them and they work really well.

http://www.meguiars.com/en/automotive/products/x2000-water-magnetreg-microfiber-drying-towel/ (http://www.meguiars.com/en/automotive/products/x2000-water-magnetreg-microfiber-drying-towel/)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 01, 2015, 02:13:14 PM
Currently using one of those grey microfibers on some door jambs. They're nice and plush.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on July 01, 2015, 03:03:23 PM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on July 01, 2015, 12:34:22 PM
Meguiars makes a larger towel for drying. I've got a few of them and they work really well.

http://www.meguiars.com/en/automotive/products/x2000-water-magnetreg-microfiber-drying-towel/ (http://www.meguiars.com/en/automotive/products/x2000-water-magnetreg-microfiber-drying-towel/)

Excellent, thanks.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 05, 2015, 02:00:23 PM
Did the works on this Ram.  Washed, clay barred (with the nanomitt!), Wizards Finish Cut (didn't need anything heavier), finished off with DP PoliCoat sealant.  Also did a full interior detail on it.  Guy I graduated HS with is the owner. 

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150701_105632_zpsgvpe7nuu.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150701_203148_zpswzlhz2me.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150701_105700_zpsteidur82.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150701_200814_zpsp2rjkssi.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150701_105650_zpsjxmz86lw.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150701_200754_zpsm0hcrrle.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150701_200814_zpsp2rjkssi.jpg)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 05, 2015, 05:40:35 PM
You like the wizards compounds?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 05, 2015, 09:46:36 PM
I do.  This was the first bottle of their compound I've ever bought, but I am pretty satisfied with the Finish Cut.  It tackles semi heavy imperfections with ease and leaves a great shine with MINIMAL swiRls.  Previously I've only ever used their spray detailer and a compound here and there that a friend had/used.

Do you not like Wizards? 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on July 06, 2015, 07:49:58 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 20, 2015, 10:56:33 AM
Cleaned up mom's Q5 the other day as well.  Brought back memories of detailing the A4.  Used DP Poli Coat sealant instead of my usual wax.  Gold "jeweling" pad (super soft, no cut).  Sealants provide similar or better aesthetic improvements compared to wax (and often clean better depending on the chemicals) while providing better, longer-lasting protection.  Pricier, though.

Paint could realllllllllly use a good cleaning (clay bar, etc.), as could most any car in the UP after winter.  My mom takes my digs at automatic car washes as instructions to never wash the car unless it's me doing it.  MOM, WASH IT MOAR.  I AIN'T GOT TIME FOR DIS.  :lol:

But...this is how I pay them back for using their garage all the time, I guess.  Can't wait til I have my own garage so I can charge them.  (Kidding, I'd never charge my parents)

http://www.autogeek.net/dp-poli-coat-paint-sealant.html (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-poli-coat-paint-sealant.html)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_111026_zps5vogqvx0.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_172152_zpsk8biiaxf.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_111008_zpseunx8dmq.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_172214_zpspdqxszfq.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_110952_zpswtzthy2y.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_172228_zpsuwwjo2d5.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_111033_zpsne851oqm.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_172320_zpslnvh734x.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_110936_zpsvyu9xokj.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_172256_zpsx0kg9cw9.jpg)

This photo shows how awesome the Speed Master Wheel Brush is.  With cars getting bigger and bigger wheels, the insides are a lot more visible, so keeping them clean can make a pretty decent aesthetic difference.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20150618_172307_zpshftkrgcx.jpg)

Looks nice and glossy.

:ohyeah:

So, business is pretty good I presume?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 06, 2015, 08:08:21 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 05, 2015, 09:46:36 PM
I do.  This was the first bottle of their compound I've ever bought, but I am pretty satisfied with the Finish Cut.  It tackles semi heavy imperfections with ease and leaves a great shine with MINIMAL swiRls.  Previously I've only ever used their spray detailer and a compound here and there that a friend had/used.

Do you not like Wizards? 

I've used a lot of wizards, just about everything they make. Most of it I like, there are a few things though that I've had some usage issues with. Namely the compounds(turbo cut and finish cut). The stuff works, OK, but I sometimes have a hard time with it(the way I'm trying to work it). Their newer(though much more expensive stuff) seems to work better for me(the Mystic Cut and Mystic Polish). Otherwise I like(and use) their shine master polish/sealant as well as the bulk of their accessory stuff(mist n shine, power clean, tire and vinyl, etc).

I sell a fair amount of the Turbo and Finish cut though, it seems most people like it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 06, 2015, 10:02:18 AM
Mmmm I didn't know they had new stuff out.  Mist n Shine is wonderful. So slippery.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 06, 2015, 10:09:47 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 06, 2015, 10:02:18 AM
Mmmm I didn't know they had new stuff out.  Mist n Shine is wonderful. So slippery.

Yup, I buy that by the gallon. Good stuff.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 06, 2015, 12:44:15 PM
These are interesting.

http://www.autogeek.net/rupes-microfiber-pads.html (http://www.autogeek.net/rupes-microfiber-pads.html)

(http://ep.yimg.com/ay/autogeek/rupes-microfiber-pads-1.gif)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 06, 2015, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 06, 2015, 12:44:15 PM
These are interesting.

http://www.autogeek.net/rupes-microfiber-pads.html (http://www.autogeek.net/rupes-microfiber-pads.html)

(http://ep.yimg.com/ay/autogeek/rupes-microfiber-pads-1.gif)

I've mentioned those meguiars pads before, they have 3 different grades(of cut) for their 5" and 6" Microfiber pads. I've only used them a few times but I like them.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 06, 2015, 12:58:38 PM
Ya, but deez have a kewl dezine.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 06, 2015, 01:01:26 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 06, 2015, 12:58:38 PM
Ya, but deez have a kewl dezine.

:rolleyes:

Damn kids......
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 06, 2015, 02:00:49 PM
$20 for 4 oz?!?!?!?!  Must be good.

http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-trim-sealant.html#reviews (http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-trim-sealant.html#reviews)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 06, 2015, 05:24:09 PM
Fuck band tees.  Detailing tees!  REPRESENT.

(http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-1fapkn/products/320/images/420/promo-tshirt-back__17673.1404239015.1280.1280.png?c=2)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Lebowski on July 13, 2015, 11:41:48 AM
After years of paying someone to wash and detail my vehicles, I've started doing it myself again. And I actually somewhat enjoy it.

I found the videos at www.ammonyc.com (http://www.ammonyc.com) to be helpful. A lot of the stuff I already knew, some of it I didn't and even for the stuff I did it was a nice refresh. I've been using a Gilmore foam gun which is cool. Detailers domain also has some good stuff and good info.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 13, 2015, 12:03:04 PM
http://www.ammonyc.com/shop/ammo-hydrate/ (http://www.ammonyc.com/shop/ammo-hydrate/)

Gotta keep that paint hydrated and moisturized! Lol detailer jargon.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 13, 2015, 12:06:49 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 13, 2015, 12:03:04 PM
http://www.ammonyc.com/shop/ammo-hydrate/ (http://www.ammonyc.com/shop/ammo-hydrate/)

Gotta keep that paint hydrated and moisturized! Lol detailer jargon.

It's typical of the high end detailing circles to make something sound more complicated or exotic. I do find it amusing.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Lebowski on July 13, 2015, 12:07:05 PM
It's essentially just a lube + spray wax. Not really necessary but works well for drying.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 13, 2015, 12:15:57 PM
Quote from: Lebowski on July 13, 2015, 12:07:05 PM
It's essentially just a lube + spray wax. Not really necessary but works well for drying.

I know exactly what it is. I just find it silly that they have to say shit like "hydrate" and "moisturize" instead of saying, y'know, "this is our spray wax and it works really well" or something that doesn't sound all fancy and false. :lol:

And yes, I always use spray detailer of some kind after drying.  That final touch makes a big difference.  Also good to use after you drive after the wash. As water sneaks out of places (Sideview mirrors, lug nuts, grilles and headlight pieces, windshield base) from the wind, it's nice to go back and erase the new water spots that may have formed.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Lebowski on July 13, 2015, 12:20:44 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 13, 2015, 12:15:57 PM
I know exactly what it is. I just find it silly that they have to say shit like "hydrate" and "moisturize" instead of saying, y'know, "this is our spray wax and it works really well" or something that doesn't sound all fancy and false. :lol:

And yes, I always use spray detailer of some kind after drying.  That final touch makes a big difference.  Also good to use after you drive after the wash. As water sneaks out of places (Sideview mirrors, lug nuts, grilles and headlight pieces, windshield base) from the wind, it's nice to go back and erase the new water spots that may have formed.




It's used during drying not after.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 13, 2015, 12:26:28 PM
Civic got problems. Clearcoat on the roof and trunk is fading. Is there any way to save it? I will get pictures later.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 13, 2015, 12:36:43 PM
It really wouldn't make much difference. The whole "wax as you dry" concept is more about convenience than anything. The water just helps it spread more evenly (and thinly). 

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Lebowski on July 13, 2015, 12:41:37 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 13, 2015, 12:36:43 PM

It really wouldn't make much difference. The whole "wax as you dry" concept is more about convenience than anything. The water just helps it spread more evenly (and thinly). 



Again, the point is as additional lube while drying.  Fwiw I'm not asking for your input.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 13, 2015, 12:44:12 PM
That guy does have some cool videos. I wish I got to work on some of those cars.

Must be nice cleaning clean cars all the time. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 13, 2015, 12:44:50 PM
"Fwiw I'm not asking for your input"

Wooo Sassy.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 13, 2015, 12:48:35 PM
Quote from: Lebowski on July 13, 2015, 12:41:37 PM

Again, the point is as additional lube while drying.  Fwiw I'm not asking for your input.

Shit, my bad. I thought this was a place to discuss things.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on July 13, 2015, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 13, 2015, 12:15:57 PM
I know exactly what it is. I just find it silly that they have to say shit like "hydrate" and "moisturize" instead of saying, y'know, "this is our spray wax and it works really well" or something that doesn't sound all fancy and false. :lol:



Suckers buy that lingo as gospel and are willing to pay for something they think is special.

They are selling a service.  They can charge more if they make what they are doing sound difficult, exotic and mysterious; something that requires special skills beyond the capabilities of mortal men. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Lebowski on July 13, 2015, 01:37:29 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 13, 2015, 12:48:35 PM

Shit, my bad. I thought this was a place to discuss things.


Well, if you are going to claim to know "exactly" what something is, maybe you should actually know what it is and how/when/why it's meant to be used, rather than taking issue w/ it based on marketing and continue down that course for multiple posts.  I told you in my first reply it's meant to function as a lubricant, and I could care less what it's named.   

While we're discussing things, I don't agree with your recommendation in your OP for a squeegee or blade type product for drying paint (sounds like a great way to scratch your paint in the event some dirt gets left behind), one of the reasons I wasn't too interested in your input re drying.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 13, 2015, 01:41:46 PM
Ohh shit. Sounds like a detail competition in the works here.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 13, 2015, 02:09:04 PM
Quote from: Lebowski on July 13, 2015, 01:37:29 PM
Well, if you are going to claim to know "exactly" what something is, maybe you should actually know what it is and how/when/why it's meant to be used, rather than taking issue w/ it based on marketing and continue down that course for multiple posts.  I told you in my first reply it's meant to function as a lubricant, and I could care less what it's named.   

While we're discussing things, I don't agree with your recommendation in your OP for a squeegee or blade type product for drying paint (sounds like a great way to scratch your paint in the event some dirt gets left behind), one of the reasons I wasn't too interested in your input re drying.

Note that I said "spray detailer" not spray wax. Different products. I was simply talking about what I do after a wash instead of using spray wax. 

Sorry that I think using silly marketing terms is silly. :huh:

And you're absolutely right, blades can scratch paint if they drag dirt around. So can any product. Using tools properly is critical, and that's why you swipe the blade clean constantly, similar to turning a towel to a fresh side to prevent the same thing.  For the record, I wrote all that shit like 6 years ago and havenVT touched it in A while. I wouldn't use a squeegee on a brand new paint job. A perfect finish should only be blown dry, which I did on my A4 for quite a while. Only way to minimize scratches to near-zero while drying is to use only air.  Afterwards, you can use a spray wax or spray detailer to finish up any remaining water spots (or of course wax/polish it normally).

Oh shit, there I go talking about what I do because this is a detailing thread and I like to talk about detailing. Sorry. No input. Forgot.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Lebowski on July 13, 2015, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 13, 2015, 02:09:04 PM

Note that I said "spray detailer" not spray wax. Different products. I was simply talking about what I do after a wash instead of using spray wax. 

Sorry that I think using silly marketing terms is silly. :huh:

And you're absolutely right, blades can scratch paint if they drag dirt around. So can any product. Using tools properly is critical, and that's why you swipe the blade clean constantly, similar to turning a towel to a fresh side to prevent the same thing.  For the record, I wrote all that shit like 6 years ago and havenVT touched it in A while. I wouldn't use a squeegee on a brand new paint job. A perfect finish should only be blown dry, which I did on my A4 for quite a while. Only way to minimize scratches to near-zero while drying is to use only air.  Afterwards, you can use a spray wax or spray detailer to finish up any remaining water spots (or of course wax/polish it normally).

Oh shit, there I go talking about what I do because this is a detailing thread and I like to talk about detailing. Sorry. No input. Forgot.




Sounds like you'd be a good candidate to try ammo hydrate.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 13, 2015, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: Lebowski on July 13, 2015, 02:58:20 PM

Sounds like you'd be a good candidate to try ammo hydrate.

Larry is that you?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Lebowski on July 13, 2015, 03:06:54 PM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on July 13, 2015, 03:00:27 PM

Larry is that you?


Paint is like skin.  It breathes like skin and should be treated like skin.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on July 13, 2015, 03:18:54 PM
Quote from: Lebowski on July 13, 2015, 03:06:54 PM
Paint is like skin.  It breathes like skin and should be treated like skin.

OMG, it is you.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on September 19, 2015, 01:46:21 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 01, 2015, 10:48:33 AM
Yep, this clay bar mitt is the shit.  Wash normally, rinse, wash again to lay down some soapy water for lube, dunk the matt, and work section by section rinsing it in between. Using Dawn and Meg's D111 Shampoo Plus. Slippery slippery.

How's the clay bar mitt holding out? I have one on my AMZN wishlist but have not pulled the trigger
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 27, 2015, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on September 19, 2015, 01:46:21 PM
How's the clay bar mitt holding out? I have one on my AMZN wishlist but have not pulled the trigger

I'd recommend it. I've done a few vehicles' worth and it has plenty of life left. It's pretty convenient to have. Still gotta make sure to lube the surface and rinse the mitt often (just like you fold/knead real clay often), but then it all just conveniently rinses off. No pressure necessary, just let its wet weight do the pressure and glide it on the paint. :ohyeah:

Another benefit is it isn't as temperature-sensitive as clay. I wouldn't recommend using it in very cold temps, but it still works beyond the point where normal clay gers too tough to be useful/safe.  The softer the clay, the better it can "soak" up the debris, whereas tougher/colder clay tends to drag shit around more and it's just harder to work with (contours, corners, etc.).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 27, 2015, 04:21:56 PM
Also really pleased with this stuff so far...http://www.autogeek.net/blackfire-tire-seal-trim-restore.html (http://www.autogeek.net/blackfire-tire-seal-trim-restore.html)

I Herculined my plastic truck fenders and someone brought up fading issues, so I bought that. $50 is a lot for 16oz of product, but a little goes a long way and it is very effective so far. I used it on the hercufenders and all the other trim (side mirror, plastic bed rail covers, rear bumper cover, etc) which was a little faded and caked from the PO's buff job.  Turned out really, really nice. Better than any other trim restore/seal product I've used. I applied it about two weeks ago and it's still super fresh. It's rainy season, so it's been rained on and such for hours and the water is beading awesome and the color is staying nice and clean. Just washed truck and it didn't affect it at all, either.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20151027_174151_zpsvwp5c3xz.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20151027_174202_zpsklbb1umc.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on October 30, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
So I saw an ad at the post office for eco friendly "waterless mobile detailing."

How does that work? Does it work? :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 30, 2015, 12:44:25 PM
It's basically like using a spray detailer. Spray on the waterless wash, let it soak per instructions, and then wipe away. Probably works fine on average vehicles, but I'd never use it on an actually dirty vehicle.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BENZ BOY15 on October 30, 2015, 06:21:58 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 30, 2015, 12:44:25 PM
It's basically like using a spray detailer. Spray on the waterless wash, let it soak per instructions, and then wipe away. Probably works fine on average vehicles, but I'd never use it on an actually dirty vehicle.

Yeah I thought there was some sorta catch and that'd be it I guess.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Lebowski on December 03, 2015, 09:04:20 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on July 13, 2015, 03:18:54 PM

OMG, it is you.



Larry just called me!  Wanted to see how I liked his new Reflex product.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Lebowski on December 03, 2015, 09:07:44 AM
Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on October 30, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
So I saw an ad at the post office for eco friendly "waterless mobile detailing."

How does that work? Does it work? :lol:

The Optinum No Rinse products get really good reviews. They aren't truly waterless (you need a bucket of water), but you don't need to hose your vehicle. I have never used it, but for say CA water restrictions it is supposedly a very viable product.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rich on February 24, 2016, 03:09:21 PM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/iamrich17/9FBE25D2-1987-44B2-8B51-A15E3A6AB340_zps4rwkv5nm.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/iamrich17/57D407BA-38BC-431D-9E8C-37173091FA98_zpspcgr08m7.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/iamrich17/D30ABBF9-4AFC-4597-95B4-8D4D59D07490_zpseffd9sj9.jpg)

The clearcoat on these things is corroded all to hell.  The paint is in decent shape at least.  But the polished rim edge is toast.  My guess is that the clearcoat is corroded causing the blemishes, as I'm not exactly sure what would cause polished aluminum to deteriorate.  Can't be rust? 

What's the best advice for making these look better?  Try polishing them?  Wet sanding?  If the fix is more than $150 I'll just leave them as is and buy a new set of wheels when these tires are done.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 24, 2016, 06:11:07 PM
The wheels on my wagon looked a bit worse than that; took a refinish and a new powdercoat and clearcoat to get them right.

Cost a little more than $100/wheel.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: RomanChariot on February 25, 2016, 08:59:06 AM
Aluminum corrodes so fast that it forms an oxide layer that actually protects it from further corrosion. When you break that oxide layer it can break down pretty quickly. If you want to save those wheels you will have to polish them and apply new clearcoat.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rich on February 25, 2016, 09:11:59 AM
Well that sucks.  I googled around and found a couple of guys that sanded, polished, and clearcoated in the same situation.  I was hoping not to have to de-mount and re-mount the tires (I've heard it's bad for them?).  It'll suck having some nasty looking wheels until I wear these tires out, but oh well.

I'll have to find some track days down here so I can beat up on them.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on February 27, 2016, 08:27:06 AM
Quote from: HotRodPilot on February 24, 2016, 03:09:21 PM

The clearcoat on these things is corroded all to hell.  The paint is in decent shape at least.  But the polished rim edge is toast.  My guess is that the clearcoat is corroded causing the blemishes, as I'm not exactly sure what would cause polished aluminum to deteriorate.  Can't be rust? 

What's the best advice for making these look better?  Try polishing them?  Wet sanding?  If the fix is more than $150 I'll just leave them as is and buy a new set of wheels when these tires are done.

Metallic or semi-metallic brake pads?  The dust is corrosive.  How often do you clean your wheels and what do you use?  You should scrub off the brake dust with a decent wheel cleaner every time you wash the car.   
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rich on March 02, 2016, 12:04:00 PM
It hadn't been properly washed for a long time.  I didn't have a hose and British weather / sludgy roads didn't help much.

I've ordered some 400 grit and 1500 grit sandpaper to try and scrub it off, a drill attachment and aluminum polish to polish it up, and will find some clearcoat somewhere around here.  That will all take a while. 

In the meantime I'm working on the stock wheels.  The first picture is at the end of my road trip, the second is after a wash with a wheel brush/soap/wheel cleaner.  The third is after busting out a scrubbing pad on them.  I threw some wax on it because I'm pretty sure I exposed some metal to the elements that hadn't been exposed in a while.  They had been my winter wheels while in Idaho and spent most of the time off the car in England.  I have some new center caps (hub caps?) to throw on after get the 6UL wheels refurbished and back onto the car.  I'll also do some more heavy cleaning (+sealing?) on these stock wheels while I have the other wheels on.


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/iamrich17/IMG_0502_zpsxsvhx7q9.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/iamrich17/0C3BE5CF-6570-4779-B2A5-9C04E7F18FD7_zpsazcaun8m.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/iamrich17/C45DD5DD-9BAA-44C7-A19C-086EF2A985DD_zpsurhz7dqz.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on March 02, 2016, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: HotRodPilot on March 02, 2016, 12:04:00 PM
It hadn't been properly washed for a long time.  I didn't have a hose and British weather / sludgy roads didn't help much.

I've ordered some 400 grit and 1500 grit sandpaper to try and scrub it off, a drill attachment and aluminum polish to polish it up, and will find some clearcoat somewhere around here.  That will all take a while. 

In the meantime I'm working on the stock wheels.  The first picture is at the end of my road trip, the second is after a wash with a wheel brush/soap/wheel cleaner.  The third is after busting out a scrubbing pad on them.  I threw some wax on it because I'm pretty sure I exposed some metal to the elements that hadn't been exposed in a while.  They had been my winter wheels while in Idaho and spent most of the time off the car in England.  I have some new center caps (hub caps?) to throw on after get the 6UL wheels refurbished and back onto the car.  I'll also do some more heavy cleaning (+sealing?) on these stock wheels while I have the other wheels on.




It looks like they clean up quite nicely. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 02, 2016, 03:51:24 PM
Indeed. :rockon:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 04, 2016, 10:05:35 AM
My old meguiars polisher is getting pretty hard to put up with. It was probably junk when it was given to me, heavily used, and I've used it for the past 5 years.

With summer almost here, and a new truck that needs some work along with the fleet of cars, I figured it was time to get something better.

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160304_105950_zpsiti1cfno.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 04, 2016, 11:48:46 AM
Fuck yeah buddy. Now you'll be flexin while your car gets shinier.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 04, 2016, 02:00:38 PM
"Das Original"

Hey Wimmer, what does that mean in english?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rich on March 05, 2016, 01:04:41 PM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/iamrich17/733DC04C-D72C-4D11-BD88-921AD93F6AF9_zpsgd0lungs.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/iamrich17/8C8BBE33-B4D0-4FB4-BD27-844C16233D3E_zpsxqoztiyb.jpg)


I'm not sure how I got the pad to tear off.  Maybe used too much product on the pad while polishing?

Anyway, the paint looks muuuuch better, got rid of a lot of swirls and blemishes.  I washed once, then again with claybar, then polished.  The paint still feels rough to the touch.  Better than before, but I'm guessing it's just got too much wear and tear to bring back to smoothness?  I'll try this all again in a couple of months and see if I can make more progress.  Maybe try a harsher clay bar.


Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on March 05, 2016, 01:17:10 PM
Did you wax or just polish
?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 05, 2016, 01:56:42 PM
Looks good man. I've never seen a pad do that before...is it old?  Was it dry?  Weird.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rich on March 05, 2016, 04:54:34 PM
brand new pad... was using it to polish and added a spritz of water for each section too.  shrugs
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 05, 2016, 06:49:38 PM
Weird. As long as no damage happened, oh well!

Try using a spray detailer instead of water to dampen the pad next time. Probably wouldn't have made much of a difference, but who knows. It's slipprier anyways. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 06, 2016, 05:38:35 PM
This truck I picked up is really a workout in some spots. I ended up taking the side moldings off because they are all chalky and faded. Plus I think it will look better without them.

Sure enough, they have been on and off a few times and it's pretty rough. All 4 doors are like this, this one is probably the worst.

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160306_123657_zpsoyzqt2qj.jpg)

It took longer to clean up the adhesive, otherwise I think I worked it out pretty well, considering. Should really be painted though.

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160306_131746_zpss86efgrw.jpg)

Even better looking from a bit of a distance.

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160306_131753_zps5lg02xwf.jpg)

Digging the new polisher, love the gear drive, can really work a lot faster and better.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 06, 2016, 06:42:10 PM
A Chevy?!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 06, 2016, 06:44:40 PM
Yes
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 280Z Turbo on March 06, 2016, 06:47:42 PM
Is that chrome shit on the side?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on March 06, 2016, 06:47:59 PM
wat
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 06, 2016, 06:49:19 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on March 06, 2016, 06:47:42 PM
Is that chrome shit on the side?

Yes, and it's near impossible to remove. A lot of them have that on there.

I'm not a big chrome fan.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on March 06, 2016, 06:50:11 PM
Sand blast +  aircraft remover + fire.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 06, 2016, 06:53:45 PM
Even if your pulling them off to paint, it's a huge mess. I've had a few guys tell me they almost wrecked the door underneath getting it off.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on March 06, 2016, 06:55:27 PM
You have guns, right? Shoot the chrome off.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on March 06, 2016, 08:02:37 PM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on March 06, 2016, 06:49:19 PM
Yes, and it's near impossible to remove. A lot of them have that on there.

I'm not a big chrome fan.

How is it attached?  Adhesive?   If so a heat gun might work, but you'd destroy the chrome piece removing it.  Solvent might work as well, but it may not be kind to the paint.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 06, 2016, 08:07:19 PM
3m adhesive or tape film. Apparently it's over the entire surface, not just the perimeter.

The good 3m stuff makes even small emblems hard to remover. A 6 x 24" solid piece is almost non removable.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on March 12, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
Paint the chrome black.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 12, 2016, 06:39:51 PM
Orrrrrrrrrr.......... just leave it chrome.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 280Z Turbo on March 12, 2016, 08:38:44 PM
Cut off the chrome shit and weld in new sheet metal. It's worth it.
Title: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on March 12, 2016, 08:52:05 PM

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on March 06, 2016, 08:07:19 PM
3m adhesive or tape film. Apparently it's over the entire surface, not just the perimeter.

The good 3m stuff makes even small emblems hard to remover. A 6 x 24" solid piece is almost non removable.

Heat gun and fishing line. It'll take a few hours but it'll come off.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 12, 2016, 08:53:44 PM
I really don't care about it. I've spent too much time on this as it is. I need to get back on the 300.
Title: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on March 12, 2016, 09:12:11 PM
Pics of the truck!!!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 12, 2016, 09:50:44 PM
Airbags + turbo.

Do it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 12, 2016, 09:58:57 PM
Quote from: MrH on March 12, 2016, 09:12:11 PM
Pics of the truck!!!

Got it all buffed out today, installed the new door handles and did a few other things. Going to revacuum, clean the interior and then wash it tomorrow. I'll take some pictures tomorrow of it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 12, 2016, 10:14:21 PM
Heres some from the other day, spent the most time on the hood on this truck.

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160305_152251_zpsmjzy6isg.jpg)

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160312_145908_zps64bgkrzk.jpg)

Passenger side, front of hood.
(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160305_152339_zps5cyvhnfv.jpg)

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160312_145927_zpswtk7olmm.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on March 13, 2016, 08:15:20 AM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on March 06, 2016, 08:07:19 PM
3m adhesive or tape film. Apparently it's over the entire surface, not just the perimeter.

The good 3m stuff makes even small emblems hard to remover. A 6 x 24" solid piece is almost non removable.

3M also make an adhesive remover.  I've seen quart cans at auto parts stores.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 13, 2016, 08:36:48 AM
I know of it, I sell it and have used it a lot. Still a shit ton of work.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 68_427 on March 13, 2016, 01:36:38 PM
Sucks about the chrome stuff.  I've seen it looks decent on some trucks but it looks like the PO went a bit too fat with it
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 13, 2016, 02:11:07 PM
Its actually not too bad, the color goes well with chrome.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on March 13, 2016, 04:25:52 PM
I took the clear plastic stone off the 944 because they weren't clear anymore. 30 year old adhesive, and it was still a PITA. I used a heat gun and a plastic putty knife to get the stone guards off, and then Goof Off and an eraser wheel for the adhesive.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 13, 2016, 05:29:16 PM
Paint looks good. Nice work!  Amazing what a little work will do.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 13, 2016, 06:14:10 PM
Thanks, really liking new polisher, should have bought one years ago.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 13, 2016, 07:31:25 PM
Oh yeah you got a Flex!  Wonderful machines. Mine's going on 4? years of hard use with no issues.  Direct drive random orbit is tha shiiiiit.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 13, 2016, 07:51:27 PM
Seems kind of noisy sometimes, been wondering if thats normal.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 14, 2016, 04:20:39 PM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on March 13, 2016, 07:51:27 PM
Seems kind of noisy sometimes, been wondering if thats normal.

Mine is, too. I want to disassemble the head and lube the gears some day.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 19, 2016, 07:35:22 PM
(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160319_172602_zpsfkonmr4w.jpg)

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160319_174325_zpsfa26r2g7.jpg)

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160319_172518_zpsz9ypayaz.jpg)

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160319_172628_zpsbr2uefl1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 21, 2016, 12:17:11 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pBrD4qg.png)

Looks awesome.  Amazing what a little time and effort will do.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on March 21, 2016, 12:35:12 AM
Now that it's clean and shiny, you can get it dirty and grimy as you never have to wash it again.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 21, 2016, 07:37:58 AM
Quote from: Rupert on March 21, 2016, 12:35:12 AM
Now that it's clean and shiny, you can get it dirty and grimy as you never have to wash it again.

Pretty close.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rich on April 03, 2016, 03:12:26 AM
Previously, I used a generic blue clay bar from Amazon, which I didn't feel did anything for the paint at all.  Recently, I ordered a heavy duty chemical guys bar, and even though the quantity was much smaller, man that did it.  That paint is so smooth it actually feels soft, and 'm a believer in clay bars now.  I'm not sure what was up with that blue bar that I used before.

I've ordered a couple of new polishing pads and a bit stronger polish (V34 v V36).  The hood has some stubborn stains toward the front and the front fascia has shipped clearcoat, pitting, etc.  Yeah I'll probably be blasting the clearcoat off in parts of the fascia, but at least it'll be smooth.  I'll get it re-painted or a new fascia (01+ maybe)when I get back to the US.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on April 03, 2016, 09:58:27 AM
Strange, Ive never had an issue with any clay bars, be it 3m, meguiars, wizards or even a few generics I've had at the store.

They are great though, love that fresh clayed softness.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 68_427 on April 09, 2016, 11:54:22 AM
Anybody use any protective coatings for wheels with good success?  The finish on my new ones is like a 10/10 and I'd like to keep it fresh.

(http://i.imgur.com/2UpAboQ.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on April 09, 2016, 06:57:21 PM
Ive never used a wheel specific product. Normally just use my strongest wax, collinite insulator wax. I'd just clean them, clay them and put 2 to 3 coats of wax on them.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 68_427 on April 10, 2016, 04:38:28 AM
Ok I'll try it thanks
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on April 10, 2016, 09:30:59 AM
Reynolds Wrap.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 07, 2016, 06:53:47 PM
So I just got around to unpacking some new detailing supplies.

Firstly, I've been meaning to try some griots products out for years. So I picked up some of their products to try, finally.

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160507_184246_zpsspzpjtld.jpg)

Also picked up a few things from autogeek, as well as a few new wizards products to try.

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160507_194721_zpstuqvri2o.jpg)

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160507_191003_zpsdkz1sq02.jpg)

And a bunch of pads I got from work.

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160507_191042_zpspotuxr0d.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 07, 2016, 06:55:09 PM
Stocked up to detail all the cars before they hit the street for the summer.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 280Z Turbo on May 22, 2016, 06:15:06 PM
Can anyone recommend a good product for making black plastic black again?
Title: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on May 22, 2016, 06:31:27 PM
Herculiner. FYA
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on May 22, 2016, 08:22:58 PM
Quote from: 68_427 on April 09, 2016, 11:54:22 AM
Anybody use any protective coatings for wheels with good success?  The finish on my new ones is like a 10/10 and I'd like to keep it fresh.

(http://i.imgur.com/2UpAboQ.jpg)

Believe it or not.........Pledge.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on May 22, 2016, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 07, 2016, 06:53:47 PM
So I just got around to unpacking some new detailing supplies.

Firstly, I've been meaning to try some griots products out for years. So I picked up some of their products to try, finally.


I tried Griots years ago found it no better than Meguires and harder to use.

Bargain time:  Walmart has bundles of 10 17"X17" micro fiber towels for $5.  They are seconds, but perfectly serviceable.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 22, 2016, 09:05:53 PM
I used their spray wax this weekend on the GTR after I washed it up. Actually pretty decent quick wax. Buffs of real nice and fast. Has a pretty decent feel to it.

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160522_153438_zpsm0lcrxcb.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 68_427 on May 23, 2016, 04:02:35 AM
I totally wish I had 5x114 hubs so I could grab those wheels off you.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 68_427 on May 23, 2016, 04:08:59 AM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on May 22, 2016, 06:15:06 PM
Can anyone recommend a good product for making black plastic black again?

Where is this plastic?  I died some of mine but it's very temperamental depending on how perfectly clean and porous you were able to get the plastic.  If it's something you can mask off and spray then plastidip actually works very well.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on May 23, 2016, 12:16:18 PM
Quote from: 68_427 on May 23, 2016, 04:08:59 AM
Where is this plastic?  I died some of mine but it's very temperamental depending on how perfectly clean and porous you were able to get the plastic.  If it's something you can mask off and spray then plastidip actually works very well.

Meguiars makes a pretty good aerosol "Plastic and Vinyl Coating, Part number D5410, that works decently.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Cookie Monster on May 24, 2016, 12:39:34 PM
I have a dumb question - my bike has been leaking oil (got a big puddle under it yesterday and a few drips today), but I can't tell where it's coming from because the entire motor and skid plate under neath are covered in oil, mainly from past oil changes, since the oil filter drips all its oil down the motor and into the skid plate when it's removed. I want to use an engine degreaser on everything, but will it be safe for the painted/powdercoated skid plate and other bits? Will it be OK on my aluminum and titanium exhaust?

How long should I let it sit? Are the "green" products better or worse than the stronger chemicals?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 24, 2016, 01:06:36 PM
Just make sure it's not acidic/caustic. Anything will work and if it's non acidic it shouldn't harm metal/paint finishes.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on May 24, 2016, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on May 24, 2016, 12:39:34 PM
I have a dumb question - my bike has been leaking oil (got a big puddle under it yesterday and a few drips today), but I can't tell where it's coming from because the entire motor and skid plate under neath are covered in oil, mainly from past oil changes, since the oil filter drips all its oil down the motor and into the skid plate when it's removed. I want to use an engine degreaser on everything, but will it be safe for the painted/powdercoated skid plate and other bits? Will it be OK on my aluminum and titanium exhaust?

How long should I let it sit? Are the "green" products better or worse than the stronger chemicals?

Check the label. 

You can go to Wal-Mart and get their store brand pretty cheaply.  Or you can pay about a buck a can more and get Gunk.  Do yourself a favor and get Gunk. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Cookie Monster on May 24, 2016, 01:42:45 PM
Can I get Gunk at Walmart? They don't have it at my local O'Reilly's and Autozone.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on May 24, 2016, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 22, 2016, 09:05:53 PM
I used their spray wax this weekend on the GTR after I washed it up. Actually pretty decent quick wax. Buffs of real nice and fast. Has a pretty decent feel to it.

(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp273/FlatBlackCaddy/20160522_153438_zpsm0lcrxcb.jpg)

my goodness :wub:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on May 24, 2016, 01:58:12 PM
Dat skyline doe :wub:


I found out I have Friday and Monday off.  Going to detail the vehicles this weekend :rockon:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on May 24, 2016, 02:10:32 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on May 24, 2016, 01:42:45 PM
Can I get Gunk at Walmart? They don't have it at my local O'Reilly's and Autozone.

I believe so. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on May 24, 2016, 03:31:56 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 24, 2016, 01:46:46 PM
my goodness :wub:

Ya, I know, that trash bin is overflowing. I really shouldn't procrastinate too much on stuff like that, it's embarrassing.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on May 25, 2016, 12:22:04 AM
Simple Green.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on June 06, 2016, 08:54:51 AM
Alright, I'm not a detail guru.  I can do a typical car wash, light clear coat polish, wax, etc, but that's as far as my knowledge goes.

I'm thinking about buying a power washer for the house.  Anyone wash their car with one?  Seems like I can effectively create one of those booths they have at the car wash, but for a lot cheaper.  If there's a soap attachment, even better.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Lebowski on June 06, 2016, 09:17:51 AM
I got an electric pressure washer for the house a few months ago and recently picked up a foam cannon for it for the cars ... I haven't used it on cars yet, though. There are some videos on it out there.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 06, 2016, 09:35:00 AM
Yeah, you can buy car wash detergents for power washers.  Pressure is great for things like wheelwells, tires, and bugs.  Get a pressure washer with a built in detergent system...I'm guessing that's your plan if you're gonna wash your house. Then you don't need any other attachments; the soaps feed themselves directly into the system.   

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on June 06, 2016, 03:25:14 PM
I bought an electric one from amazon, well reviewed, works pretty decent and it even works ok with my autogeek foam cannon.

I used to have a really spendy gas powered one but I just didn't like using it, too much of a hassle. The electric is nice and the one I got still comes with a decent wand and interchangable tip system.

http://www.amazon.com/Joe-SPX3000-Electric-Pressure-14-5-Amp/dp/B00CPGMUXW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1465248224&sr=8-3&keywords=pressure+washer (http://www.amazon.com/Joe-SPX3000-Electric-Pressure-14-5-Amp/dp/B00CPGMUXW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1465248224&sr=8-3&keywords=pressure+washer)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on June 06, 2016, 04:13:31 PM
Quote from: MrH on June 06, 2016, 08:54:51 AM
Alright, I'm not a detail guru.  I can do a typical car wash, light clear coat polish, wax, etc, but that's as far as my knowledge goes.

I'm thinking about buying a power washer for the house.  Anyone wash their car with one?  Seems like I can effectively create one of those booths they have at the car wash, but for a lot cheaper.  If there's a soap attachment, even better.

There isn't a power washer that cleans as well as a bucket of soapy water and a washing mitt.

I use one though.   But only to first rinse off any particulate material from the surface of the car.   Then I hand wash it and use the power washer to rinse the car.  I only use it because it uses far less water to accomplish the same thing a hose does. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 23, 2016, 12:19:47 PM
Anyone ever use any Klasse brand products?  I've been using DP Policoat Sealant, but that bottle is about empty.  Works great, but I tend to jump around and try other stuff.  On customer cars, I use regular wax (Meg's #26), but I love sealants as they last longer...critical around here with a solid 5-6 months of snow, ice, and salt.  Once I get a shop, I'll probably expand my services and offer "upsells" such as sealant application instead of wax, or sealant + wax.

This is the one I'm looking at now:  http://www.autogeek.net/klashiggloss1.html

It says it can last up to 12 months.  I tend to just cut whatever number they say in half, but that's still pretty adequate to get through a winter, especially if it can keep the rail dust down.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 23, 2016, 12:30:35 PM
Also, anyone ever use any interior protectants?  Like for fabrics and carpeting?  I've had a couple customers ask about that kind of thing and I think it would be another good thing to be able to offer.  I've always thought of fabric protectors as sorta snake oil, but perhaps they do really work.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Byteme on August 23, 2016, 01:17:00 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on August 23, 2016, 12:30:35 PM
Also, anyone ever use any interior protectants?  Like for fabrics and carpeting?  I've had a couple customers ask about that kind of thing and I think it would be another good thing to be able to offer.  I've always thought of fabric protectors as sorta snake oil, but perhaps they do really work.

I don't see anything wrong with something like scotchguard provided it's compatible with whatever fabric you are using it on.  I think it got the snake oil reputation in automotive circles because dealers sell a paint and interior protection package for a couple of hundred dollars that as far as the interior goes is a guy spending 15 minutes spraying a can or two of scotchgurard  on the fabric seats and carpet.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 23, 2016, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: CLKid on August 23, 2016, 01:17:00 PM
I don't see anything wrong with something like scotchguard provided it's compatible with whatever fabric you are using it on.  I think it got the snake oil reputation in automotive circles because dealers sell a paint and interior protection package for a couple of hundred dollars that as far as the interior goes is a guy spending 15 minutes spraying a can or two of scotchgurard  on the fabric seats and carpet.

Yeah, basically. I suppose there's nothing wrong with scotch guard type stuff.  I've never really used it, so I guess I shouldn't knock it til I rock it.  Had a guy call today with a 2016 Sierra he wants me to "protect" inside/out, so I'm gonna seal it and try some scotch guard type stuff on it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on October 10, 2016, 11:01:45 AM
I claybarred the CLK350 then used a cleaner/wax.  It looks great --- apart from the hood. It's smooth to the touch but I can see imperfections & tiny spots that I think are just the result of life being a black hood... over a hot engine... in a hot climate.

Guessing I should have used a mild compound cleaner before waxing?  Tips & hints appreciated.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 07, 2017, 05:13:34 PM
Detailing season is upon me.  I've got some fresh chemicals on the way as well as an electric pressure washer that I'm pretty excited to have.  Will use less water and have higher pressure.  Excellent for really dirty things like trucks and wheel wells.  Also got a "shorty" wand that's basically just the trigger/handle body with a nozzle on it...great for tight spaces (wheel wells) compared to the silly 3' wands pressure washers come with.  And a foam gun for it.  Hopefully the pressure washer hose and aftermarket gun are the same ID M22 fitting for input or that I can easily put in a different fitting or a reducer to match them up. 

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/4111iLm8hAL._SY300_.jpg)

Also, I think I'm gonna pick up one of these underhood lights to use on interiors...can just use the clamps to mount it up high by fixing the clamps to the upper door jambs across the interior (kinda like one of those garment bars)!  Kinda pricey, but having lots of interior light is necessary, especially with dark interiors.  Using a flashlight while trying to vacuum is annoying and head lamps constantly require batteries and shit.  I have two dual-T8 fixtures on each side of the stall and one in front, but since they're up high, they don't throw much light inside the vehicle.

30W T8 (they make LED versions, but I'd rather have the floody fluorescent...can also swap it for an LED bulb later if I want).
http://a.co/fBgfUvC

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31CL0PzsirL.jpg)



Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on April 07, 2017, 05:24:07 PM
What kind of vacuum do you use?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 07, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 07, 2017, 05:24:07 PM
What kind of vacuum do you use?

Just your standard "6hp" 12-gallon ShopVac.  And about four select attachments. Nothing fancy, but ShopVacs  (or any decent utility vac) get the job done.

I also have a hot water extractor for carpet/upholstery.  Previous generation of this guy:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51dHMLvVR4L._SY550_.jpg)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 11, 2017, 04:43:13 PM
Cheap Chinese pressure washer and accessories are in.  Will try 'em out on tomorrow's specimen, a Buick Lucerne.

Also got to use the Collinite 845 Insulator Wax for the first time today.  Very pleased.  Goes on great, comes off easy, and left a good shine.  Can't speak for its durability yet, but it seems to have a good reputation.  Not that any wax/sealant/whatever will last through our 5-6 month winters, but something is always better than nothing.  A decent wax/sealant will get through a winter on the top half of the car, but the lower half that's always subjected to salt and spray...no chance.

(http://www.detailedimage.com/products/auto/668_1_lw_3536.jpg)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 12, 2017, 09:55:16 PM
This stuff has some STANK to it, both literally and figuratively.  Happy I bought some...seemed a bit pricey, but it saved me a lot of time scrubbing on some wheels today.  Really caked-on, thick brake dust that my normal wheel cleaner (Meg's Wheel Brightener) can't really eat through...this stuff ate it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

http://www.autogeek.net/carpro-iron-x-cleaner.html

(http://ep.yimg.com/ay/autogeek/carpro-iron-x-iron-remover-500-ml-9.gif)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on April 13, 2017, 08:12:25 AM
So the S2000 had this old, musty smell when I bought it.  It kind of smelled like an old attic.  First step was the cabin air filter.  I don't think that had ever been changed, it was loaded with dirt and old leaves and things.  That helped with the smell of air coming in, but the cabin smell kind of lingered a little.

I had an air freshner in the car, but it just masked it.

I picked up one of these and used it the other day:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51nErhkYEkL._SY300_.jpg)

Worked really, really well.  The whole car has a slight hint of fresh laundry, but a little sweet.  I used the new car smell, but I wouldn't say that's what it really smells like.  Highly recommend it if your car stinks.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 13, 2017, 08:20:59 AM
I've had one of those sitting in my drawer for two years...never actually tried it. Glad to hear it works.  I'll have to try it. I'm most curious about the longevity of it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 13, 2017, 08:16:39 PM
Been doing work for a local funeral home for about five years now.  They have a Cadillac hearse and a Chrysler Town & Country mini van.  Both silver.  Hearse is used for...obvious reasons.  The van is primarily used as their run-around and body pick-up vehicle.  I also do some of their personal vehicles.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170413_140757_zpsrsfj66f5.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170413_140852_zpsi4eyji3u.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rich on April 14, 2017, 03:02:23 AM
I'm running without a clearcoat on the polished wheels, just wax. It's holding muuuuch better than I was worried about. Definitely the way to go for me.

I did the full monte on a neighbors miata. That paint was sooooo hard.... I didn't have a heavy enough polish to make headway into many of the scratches. It turns out it's been repainted. I guess some repaints have very hard paint/clearcoat? 

Anyway, that thing was a mess, probably not waxed for years. After polishing i put sealant on it, and then a layer of wax.

Pretty cool knowing the story behind the car too. Dude (Spanish) bought it in the US, brought it back with him to Spain, married his wife in the north and roadtripped back to Andalucia together as newlyweds back in the day. He said he's going to hang onto it and hopefully pass it on to one of his sons someday.   

I'd imagine that hearse has carried people with life stories that'd blow my mind. If only a car could talk...
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 14, 2017, 10:08:11 AM
Today's project is an Impreza. The guy spilled a solid quart of Lucas Oil behind the drivers seat. FUCK.  How on earth am I gonna get this out. I told him I'd do my best.

Edit: used an ice scraper to scrape/scoop it up from the carpet into an empty plastic container. Pressure washer took care of the rubber floor mat well enough. I got 8-10oz of grease out of the carpet. Yuck.  The carpet is ruined, but at least it's not soupy anymore.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 14, 2017, 10:09:47 AM
Quote from: Rich on April 14, 2017, 03:02:23 AM
I did the full monte on a neighbors miata. That paint was sooooo hard.... I didn't have a heavy enough polish to make headway into many of the scratches. It turns out it's been repainted. I guess some repaints have very hard paint/clearcoat? 

Were you polishing by hand?  That only goes so far, especially if the finish had been neglected for some time.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 14, 2017, 06:03:55 PM
Cleaned up my interior and bombed it with the Meguiar's thing. New car scent. Smells great.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on April 14, 2017, 06:11:50 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 14, 2017, 06:03:55 PM
Cleaned up my interior and bombed it with the Meguiar's thing. New car scent. Smells great.
Too bad you're way over there.  My car could use a good cleaning.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 14, 2017, 06:14:02 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 14, 2017, 06:11:50 PM
Too bad you're way over there.  My car could use a good cleaning.

I think it would be fun to outfit a Ford Transit or similar as a mobile detailing rig and travel around detailing down south during my northern off season.  Building up a reputation and customer base to do such a thing and not go broke is the biggest hurdle.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on April 14, 2017, 06:16:54 PM
Sounds like a good plan.  You can make a Spring trip out this way.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 14, 2017, 06:58:44 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 14, 2017, 06:03:55 PM
Cleaned up my interior and bombed it with the Meguiar's thing. New car scent. Smells great.

I might try it. My car has a very garage-y smell (for obvious reasons).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 14, 2017, 07:14:32 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 14, 2017, 06:58:44 PM
I might try it. My car has a very garage-y smell (for obvious reasons).

Next time you're at Walmart or whatever, pick one up.  Cheap, worth a shot for a fresher smell.

I'm interested to see how long it lasts and how it tapers off.  I must say I like the smell Tacoma came with.  Brings back memories of the summer I got it.  Dawwww, now that smell's gone. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rich on April 15, 2017, 12:20:57 AM
I used a random orbital and chemical guys v34
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 15, 2017, 01:03:17 AM
Quote from: Rich on April 15, 2017, 12:20:57 AM
I used a random orbital and chemical guys v34

That says to me that, yes, that clear was either really hard or there are imperfections under the clear...which isn't uncommon with a re-spray.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 19, 2017, 11:06:10 AM
This thing rocks.  They're missing a big market with us detailers.  Definitely my new favorite piece of equipment. 

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170419_125606_zpsylohlqhu.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 20, 2017, 09:07:12 PM
Want.

https://dupray.com/steam-cleaners/carmen-super-inox-steam-extractor/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IytFicCJ8x4
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 68_427 on April 25, 2017, 05:45:16 AM
Will that pull out the farts that sometimes escape from my butt pad at work if I move just right?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 29, 2017, 12:03:57 PM
Something is wrong with my extractor.  The pump primes and pressurizes but nothing comes out of the wand. It could just be that the valve on the upholstery tool is fucked ($125, which happened to the OE tool after a solid couple years), or it could mean the whole machine is junk and I should just drop $4k for a steam cleaner, which could buy me 5 more of the extractor I have now lol..... fack. 

Edit:  Ordered an upholstery tool off Amazon for half the price of the OE tool.  Hopefully it's skookum enough.  Also got some new quick connect fittings as the ones on the machine/hose now are pretty stiff and a pain to work with after 4 years of being soaked in wet stuff.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 29, 2017, 03:31:06 PM
Detailing a fairly new (~20k miles) Tundra next week.  I just detailed the customer's truck (RAM) inside and out and then a week later he sends me a picture of a (basically) brand new Tundra.  I'm like, yeah, you bet I'll take more of your money!  Just gonna polish up the outside for him since the inside is pretty clean from the dealer.  Ordered some fresh Lake Country CCS foam pads, some Meg's glaze, and a couple other odds and ends.  Lake Country's gold jeweling pads are so nice...super soft and compliant for waxing, yet strong enough to last through a season of detailings.  I alternate between their black finishing and gold jeweling pad for waxing...no real reason.  Always happy with the bang for buck from Lake Country.

(http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-136620990454153/ccs-smart-pads-dual-action-5-5-inch-foam-pads-by-lake-country-1.gif)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 29, 2017, 03:41:12 PM
My ShopVac is still going strong, just put a fresh hose on it the other day.  I noticed they had an industrial 2-stage utility vacuum at Menards.  Pricey, at $249, but it got me thinking about getting a 2-stage.  I don't know too much about vacuums, but it sounds like a 2-stage is considerably more powerful/reliable. 

Anyone have any experience with a 2-stage, industrial vacuum?  Compared to a standard ShopVac or similar?

This is the one at Menards: http://www.vacmaster.com/industrial-hepa-certified-wet-dry-vac-with-2-stage-motor/

Water lift is the true power test.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 68_427 on May 01, 2017, 01:54:23 AM
I'm gonna get one of those foamy things for a pressure washer.  I'm TURRIBLE at washing my car but it should at least make it more fun.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 14, 2017, 08:47:38 PM
I could do this all day.  Fuck, this could be a good travelling business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbQSrCpoVVc
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 17, 2017, 12:41:04 PM
Somebody I know has a white Rav-4.  Naturally, it was covered in rail dust after winter.  She went to the auto parts store for help, and the guy mixed her up some paint and told her to paint over it all. Now the lower portion of her car's paint is trashed since she just used a brushed and slapped it on.  She didn't know about rail dust until she asked me about and I said "yeah, that comes right off with an acid wash."

This is why you don't take advice from people at parts stores. 

Poor Ravvy.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: veeman on May 17, 2017, 09:50:29 PM
Where I park at work the the covered multistory garage is something out of the 3rd world.  Cracked concrete everywhere, exposed wiring, etc.  Every time it rains, the decrepit paint or lime or some other white stuff drips onto my car.  A few people cover their cars with a cover everytime they park but I'm too lazy to do that.  What do you guys recommend to take that crap off?  I've been using apple cider or white vinegar and elbow grease and then pouring some water on it to get rid of the vinegar. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 19, 2017, 04:29:01 PM
'07 with about 52k miles on it.  Interior feels cheap, but so does the interior of any 10 year old Ford.  The guy also has a '69(?) Mach 1 in his garage, and a new Taurus SHO.  He says the Mustangs are now the two slowest cars he owns because of it. :lol:

It was nice to detail something at least mildly interesting.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170519_171945_zpse74hsrex.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170519_172032_zpsracjbrcp.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170519_172051_zpsaovluatf.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170519_172130_zpsys5gs3fh.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170519_172234_zpsdj3zcvbj.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on May 19, 2017, 05:18:01 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 19, 2017, 04:29:01 PM
'07 with about 52k miles on it.  Interior feels cheap, but so does the interior of any 10 year old Ford.  The guy also has a '69(?) Mach 1 in his garage, and a new Taurus SHO.  He says the Mustangs are now the two slowest cars he owns because of it. :lol:

It was nice to detail something at least mildly interesting.

The '69? Mach I would be a nice car to have.  The desirable ones would be the 351 Cleveland and the 428 CJ.  I had a '70 Mach I with a 351 Cleveland.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 19, 2017, 05:24:19 PM
If my photographic memory serves me right, his is a 351.  He put front disc brakes on it and modern seat belts.  Doesn't sound like he drives it much, though, since he's got the '07 and the Taurus SHO for traveling.

Said he might sell both 'Stangs and get a newer Shelby. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on May 19, 2017, 05:35:45 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 19, 2017, 05:24:19 PM
If my photographic memory serves me right, his is a 351.  He put front disc brakes on it and modern seat belts.  Doesn't sound like he drives it much, though, since he's got the '07 and the Taurus SHO for traveling.

Said he might sell both 'Stangs and get a newer Shelby. 
Pretty sure mine had front discs. 

He should get a good price for the Mach I if it's in good shape.  A Shelby 350 R, or even a newer BOSS 302 would be the only excuse to sell the Mach I.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 19, 2017, 06:06:05 PM
Hm, not sure.  He said it was a conversion, but maybe he just upgraded the discs or mis-spoke.  It's not in mint condition, but it's a solid "ten foot" car.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on May 20, 2017, 07:47:37 AM
Probably upgraded the discs. Don't think I've ever seen one with front drums
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2017, 09:27:06 PM
Really pleased with this Iron X stuff.  I see this white Accord annually and it's always just loaded with rail dust.  White cars are prone to showing rail dust more than most any other color paint, but this car in particular seems to be a fuckin' magnet for it.

Live action shot!  The stuff itself is clear (and smelly), but it turns purple when it contacts iron or other junk.  Let it soak for a minute or two, and wash it all away.  I've been diluting it 50/50 because it is a bit pricey ($20 for .5L), but a little still goes a long way.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170621_110042_zpslxnptdwz.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170621_134241_zps5hgqevnd.jpg)

Also detailed this behemoth yesterday.  3500HD.  Rides like shit with its high-psi tires and the owner had stiffer springs installed, but the thing moves.  He uses the 8' bed for a truck bed camper, so it probably rides a lot better with a load on it.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170620_165915_zpscdwh7z0i.jpg)

Looks like a goddamn train running you down.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170620_165931_zpsfmc518am.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 68_427 on June 21, 2017, 10:45:53 PM
Iron-X smells sooo bad though
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2017, 11:27:22 PM
Indeed it does. Works like a champ though.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on June 22, 2017, 08:21:05 AM
Soooo Explorer has a couple of spots on the roof where paint has peeled and it's starting to rust.

wat do? Since it's on the roof, I don't particularly care about it looking nice, though relatively close would be nice.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on June 22, 2017, 08:40:41 AM
First, sand down the entire roof.  You have to get under the paint to stop the rust from spreading.  Next, dump a few buckets of ocean water on it.  The minerals in the water help promote strong grain correction in the metal.  Step three, spray over it all with plastidip to seal in the nutrients you just provided to the roof.

Should look good as new once you're done.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 22, 2017, 10:18:39 AM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 22, 2017, 08:21:05 AM
Soooo Explorer has a couple of spots on the roof where paint has peeled and it's starting to rust.

wat do? Since it's on the roof, I don't particularly care about it looking nice, though relatively close would be nice.

Check your local hardware store for "rust converter" or "rust converter primer."  Use some of that, which helps kill the rust and is then a paintable surface.  May not be very pretty, but as you said, it's just the roof.  Sand it down first if you'd like or if the rust is particularly bad, but rust converter can handle basic surface rust.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on June 22, 2017, 09:49:44 PM
Quote from: MrH on June 22, 2017, 08:40:41 AM
First, sand down the entire roof.  You have to get under the paint to stop the rust from spreading.  Next, dump a few buckets of ocean water on it.  The minerals in the water help promote strong grain correction in the metal.  Step three, spray over it all with plastidip to seal in the nutrients you just provided to the roof.

Should look good as new once you're done.

I need to make sure to let the ocean water air dry so that the minerals crystallize before spraying the Plasti-dip, right?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on June 23, 2017, 01:30:44 PM
No.  It's probably best to throw some road salt down immediately on top of the ocean water, to ensure it's locked in.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 23, 2017, 05:49:54 PM
Love this brown, especially in the shade.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170623_190541_zpspkml2png.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170623_190618_zps4tjwclj2.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170623_190551_zps4makwt48.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 68_427 on June 24, 2017, 08:33:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSH8CuSVN6M


street cred for exploder roof
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 27, 2017, 09:13:24 PM
Buffed out this '07 today. Guy just bought it a few months ago, PO was an old guy...thing has under 58k miles on it. V6, 4x4, beauty. Black paint, and he gave me my three favorite words..."take your time."  Flex 3401 buffer.  Meguiar's Diamond Cut, then Wizard's Finish cut, followed by Collinite Insulator Wax and a spray detail after it was all done. 

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170627_182805_zps1xeg4w5g.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170627_182737_zpsn2t3mrge.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170627_174417_zpsodkqsmak.jpg)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 68_427 on June 27, 2017, 11:29:40 PM
That truck will run forever if he keeps it clean. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 28, 2017, 08:39:11 AM
Indeed. I'm sure he will. He's gotta be pushing 60, so he's already in old man mode with it. I checked it out underneath and it's clean as frig.  Doesn't get much better for a used vehicle around here.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on June 28, 2017, 09:13:24 AM
I like the SWB version too.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 28, 2017, 09:37:45 AM
It's uncommon to see standard cab, 6' bed trucks. I swear they're all driven by old guys, too.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on June 28, 2017, 10:08:37 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 28, 2017, 09:37:45 AM
It's uncommon to see standard cab, 6' bed trucks. I swear they're all driven by old guys, too.

Makes sense - they don't have kids to drive around.

Or they're lifted for rock crawling, where SWB is a big advantage.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 28, 2017, 10:39:22 AM
I'm halfway to old man truck with my access cab with its pathetic rear seats, which are basically necessity-use only.  And that's how I like it...gives me an excuse to say "no, sorry, can't really take passengers" while still having room to carry things and gear. :lol:

I did enough chauffering in the A4 and loved it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on June 28, 2017, 11:13:19 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 28, 2017, 10:39:22 AM
I'm halfway to old man truck with my access cab with its pathetic rear seats, which are basically necessity-use only.  And that's how I like it...gives me an excuse to say "no, sorry, can't really take passengers" while still having room to carry things and gear. :lol:

I did enough chauffering in the A4 and loved it.

Haha yeah. Similar for me when the S2000 was my only car. Size of car plus the fact that I just so happened to live in the middle of my friend group meant that I basically never had to drive anywhere since someone else was always driving past my place to get to wherever we were going.

It's the exact opposite now with the Explorer. I always end up driving because I have the biggest car for both passengers and gear, plus crappy roads to trailheads aren't an issue.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 09, 2017, 11:50:03 AM
Have you used this stuff for rail dust?

(http://i.imgur.com/wmCuqcm.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 09, 2017, 02:22:34 PM
Never used anything Griot's.  I have a sometimes-unnecessary aversion to anything you can buy off the shelf at a store.  Good stuff?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 09, 2017, 04:49:29 PM
Dunno. I have a buddy that works for them now and he gave us a couple free bottles of various things, plus some high quality microfiber towels. He said the quick detailer he gave me will work on my flat/satin paint. I'm hopeful!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 09, 2017, 04:53:12 PM
So this was my parade setup.  It was super weird washing/detailing the vehicle in quadrants...took me just as long as if I washed the whole thing since I was being careful not to get the dirty stuff wet/soapy.  Me and the gf had a blast chucking candy at children (1,800 Frooties).  Also did 50 sandwich bags with some candy and a business card as well.

Only had a couple people ask dumb questions or not realize what I was going for here while most everybody else thought it was a cool idea.  Within an hour after the parade, I already had three new vehicles lined up on the schedule.

Looking forward to touching up the other two fender flares...forgot how awesome they look freshly blacked.  Used spray-can Rustoleum bed coating...the original Herculiner faded quickly and was a bitch to apply, but from now on all I need to do is mask it off and give it a spray.  Hopefully tomorrow I'll have some time to finish the other half...I feel like a fuckin' weirdo driving this thing around right now, so I've just been leaving the banners in so people don't think I'm too crazy (parade was just yesterday).

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170707_204615_zps1rqfy2w7.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/giant_mtb/20170708_103810_zpsjei48wy2.jpg

EDIT:  Hmm, photobucket doesn't seem to allow hotlinking anymore.  What should I use instead?



Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 09, 2017, 07:42:51 PM
G's PO seemed to have a penchant for awful rap music and drive thru car washes. Paint is all scratched up. Is there some protocol I can do or should I just pay my trusty detailer?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 09, 2017, 07:53:40 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 09, 2017, 07:42:51 PM
G's PO seemed to have a penchant for awful rap music and drive thru car washes. Paint is all scratched up. Is there some protocol I can do or should I just pay my trusty detailer?

If you want to get into DIY, get yourself a cheap random-orbital buffer, cutting and finishing pads, the respective compounds, and some wax.  Then you get to practice on your own vehicle and I guarantee you won't make it worse.  Usually once your paint has been cut-buffed once, you only really need finishing cut about once a year depending on your wash regimen and how/where you drive.  You're a YouTube guy...there are so many videos out there on good buffing practices.

Look into some starter kits on Autogeek.net...the investment goes a long way.  For the cost of one detailing, you can DIY for years to come.

http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-porter-cable-kit.html

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 11, 2017, 08:55:19 AM
I can't fucking stand the brainwashing of those $800 "paint protection packages" people pay for when they get a new vehicle.  "So, I don't know anything about detailing, but they said you're not supposed to use any wax."  So, I'm a professional, and you/they are full of shit. You spent $400 for some kid to put on a coat of paint sealant. :rage:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 11, 2017, 02:39:50 PM
That package looks good, but steep. I don't know that I want to put the time in every year either. Wish you were local :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 11, 2017, 07:08:25 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 11, 2017, 02:39:50 PM
That package looks good, but steep. I don't know that I want to put the time in every year either. Wish you were local :lol:

One day a year really isn't much of a sacrifice to keep your baby lookin' fresh, IMO, especially once you're past the learning curve.  But yes, I wish I could be local for all of you. :lol:

But hey, you asked!  Polishing by hand simply isn't effective enough (hardly better than waxing by hand), so going with a buffer is ideal. Browse the other packages they offer or build your own based on what you see. Honestly, you'd be set with a buffer, a finishing pad, and some Wizard's Finish Cut.  It's a great all in one polish.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 13, 2017, 05:44:44 AM
Thinking more about it, the price isn't that bad, considering the buffer should last a long time. I'm just constantly stacked with side projects. I feel like I would never have the time. Easier to drop it off at the detailer and let them deal with it. Plus I am a little scared of messing up the paint :mask:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 18, 2017, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 13, 2017, 05:44:44 AM
Thinking more about it, the price isn't that bad, considering the buffer should last a long time. I'm just constantly stacked with side projects. I feel like I would never have the time. Easier to drop it off at the detailer and let them deal with it. Plus I am a little scared of messing up the paint :mask:

With a random orbit, it's virtually impossible to mess it up.  The fear of power buffing comes from back in the day when every buffer was rotary and paint was shit.  But don't worry...I had the fear the first time I buffed, too, and that was with a $20 Walmart random orbital.

Pads, compounds, and random orbits have come a long way in allowing anyone to do their own work...if they wanna put in the time. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 18, 2017, 03:54:27 PM
Cool Jeep. Pro Comp suspension and tires. Wheels are a bit much.  Don't think it leaves pavement much, but fuckit, it's a top-down machine.

(http://i.imgur.com/oYkxwOC.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/RtmsWFW.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 18, 2017, 04:13:17 PM
As an aside, if any of you are ever interested, feel free to Like my page on Facebook. I post before/after pics of virtually all of my projects and occasionally offer little tidbits and tips.

www.facebook.com/updetailing
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 02, 2017, 04:45:09 PM
2002 Buick Century. Old lady driven. Rarely sees snow, or rain for that matter.  Been detailing this one every year for quite some time...probably 7-8 years or so.  43k miles...only on its second set of tires. Rockers are starting to rust pretty good but that's about it. Door jambs and lips are still clean.  She drives it so little (especially in winter) that the water is still beading each year when I see it...very rare around here with our harsh winters that eat through wax with little effort.  Smooth ride...rides like it should with such low mileage.

She's 85 years old...said that she has my number and I'll be the first one "they" call when she's gone and trying to sell it. :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/F1EE99X.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xTx9liS.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/gUXXDOr.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 04, 2017, 01:14:08 PM
Lol.

And I knew what color it was before I ever saw the pictures...
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 04, 2017, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 04, 2017, 01:14:08 PM
Lol.

And I knew what color it was before I ever saw the pictures...

:lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 93JC on August 06, 2017, 11:46:42 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 04, 2017, 01:14:08 PM
Lol.

And I knew what color it was before I ever saw the pictures...

:hesaid:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Speed_Racer on August 22, 2017, 11:47:15 AM
Did my own full detail this past weekend. My back still hurts but it's so nice to get rid of the water spots and swirl marks. I had a few older pads self-combust so I need to order some new ones in the next while.

(https://s3.postimg.org/iplks2ltv/20170820_200316.jpg)

(https://s3.postimg.org/vv12y6fpf/20170820_200226_2.jpg)

(https://s3.postimg.org/vxpjyr8qr/20170820_200305.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on August 23, 2017, 06:28:30 AM
I think I wanna order that kit. I can just do one panel/side at a time if need be. When would you say would be the best time of year to do a detail? Would it make sense to do more than once a year? W/the wheels coming the shitty condition of the paint is starting to bother me.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 23, 2017, 08:50:39 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on August 23, 2017, 06:28:30 AM
I think I wanna order that kit. I can just do one panel/side at a time if need be. When would you say would be the best time of year to do a detail? Would it make sense to do more than once a year? W/the wheels coming the shitty condition of the paint is starting to bother me.

Spring and/or fall are the best times, IMO.  Do it in the spring, and you're lookin' good all summer. Do it in the fall, and you'll be protected for winter.  I'd buff it out in the spring and just wax in the fall. Once you buff it out, you should be good for a while. After the initial buffing, if you continue to do it annually, you should then only need to use a lighter finishing compound and it'll all be much quicker. :ohyeah:

Though I guess it's nearly fall now, so yeah. Do it.  Then refresh in the spring and you've got a rhythm.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on August 23, 2017, 09:55:45 AM
Griots has a cool "clay bar" mitt that works well for claying the paint and also the windows. They demonstrated on my dad's windshield and you could feel a huge difference between the swiped area and the rest of the glass. I'm sure it helps a ton with water beading and wiper functionality.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 23, 2017, 09:58:27 AM
I have three different clay bar mitts (well, one's pretty much worn out).  They're so awesome. Well worth the ~$30.  Reusable, last long, saves a lot of time/effort.  I haven't actually clay barred a car in a few years now because of them.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 04, 2017, 09:57:59 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/inTODhD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9oIpv7Z.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SFvaJLh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bgZ3iOW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZjifNH1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 05, 2017, 09:06:28 PM
I've been thinking a lot lately.  I'm not bored of detailing, but I'm ready for a new step. I wanna look into commercial vehicle pressure washing.  Like dump trucks, cement trucks, UPS trucks, etc.  I know most places have a laborer that probably does it, but you can make a pretty sweet rig in the back of a van that gives superior results while being 100% mobile.

Full disclosure, I've done no local market research on this, but there's plenty of heavy trucks in the area.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 05, 2017, 09:09:54 PM
Detail by day, pressure wash in the evening when the fleets are in the yard. I dunno, I'm single now.  I have nothing but time. :rastaman:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on September 06, 2017, 11:57:56 AM
So that shop charges like $150 a detail... doing me and wifey's car will pay for that. Can you link up that kit again? I wanna get my baby right as soon as I get these damn wheels on
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 06, 2017, 12:01:31 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 06, 2017, 11:57:56 AM
So that shop charges like $150 a detail... doing me and wifey's car will pay for that. Can you link up that kit again? I wanna get my baby right as soon as I get these damn wheels on

http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-porter-cable-kit.html

I'd also recommend clay barring or getting a clay bar mitt (I prefer the mitts). Want that surface to be nice and smooth before buffing...it's like taking off your clothes before showering.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on September 06, 2017, 12:22:53 PM
What times of year would you say are best? I'm feeling like a month after our annual snow and maybe once late summer if need be.... I just wanna get my paint right once I get this wheel situation sorted. Wifey's paint is actually immaculate
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 06, 2017, 01:13:55 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on August 23, 2017, 08:50:39 AM
Spring and/or fall are the best times, IMO.  Do it in the spring, and you're lookin' good all summer. Do it in the fall, and you'll be protected for winter.  I'd buff it out in the spring and just wax in the fall. Once you buff it out, you should be good for a while. After the initial buffing, if you continue to do it annually, you should then only need to use a lighter finishing compound and it'll all be much quicker. :ohyeah:

Though I guess it's nearly fall now, so yeah. Do it.  Then refresh in the spring and you've got a rhythm.

Adjust per your local weather.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rich on September 09, 2017, 08:57:11 PM
Look at dem headlights. 320grit, then 800, then 1000. Then polish. Then clearcoat

https://imgur.com/gallery/HyXq4
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on September 10, 2017, 07:05:53 AM
Looks good man. My headlights are shit right now too.

Just ordered that detailing kit... putting the wheels on has really opened my eyes to how shit my paint is
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 16, 2017, 05:35:44 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 10, 2017, 07:05:53 AM
Looks good man. My headlights are shit right now too.

Just ordered that detailing kit... putting the wheels on has really opened my eyes to how shit my paint is

Use the buffer and cutting compound on your headlights; it'll make a big difference. :ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on September 25, 2017, 07:28:51 PM
Hey giant, any red flags come up with this guy? Looks like the Pendleton version of you!

https://www.mudgettsmobiledetail.com/ (https://www.mudgettsmobiledetail.com/)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 25, 2017, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Rupert on September 25, 2017, 07:28:51 PM
Hey giant, any red flags come up with this guy? Looks like the Pendleton version of you!

https://www.mudgettsmobiledetail.com/ (https://www.mudgettsmobiledetail.com/)

I'll take a look as soon as I can...both my AT&T cell service and my ISP seem to be hiccuping at the moment...that site won't load for me. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 25, 2017, 08:43:20 PM
Oh Jesus.  Were you being sarcastic? :lol:

That website is atrocious and his pictures are pathetic, but he seems fairly priced and appears to do acceptable work.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on September 28, 2017, 03:14:48 PM
Possibly stupid question. I'm trying to clean my windshield with Windex and paper towels, and it keeps leaving streaks. What the fuck am I doing wrong? I'm reading online that rubbing alcohol helps to degrease it... I think I'm gonna give that a try.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Cookie Monster on September 28, 2017, 03:18:20 PM
Why not use microfiber towels instead?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 28, 2017, 03:51:59 PM
Microfibers.  And/or glass-specific cloths. Use less glass cleaner. Practice makes perfect. Always do a final wipe with a clean/dry towel.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on September 28, 2017, 04:33:33 PM
Is the windshield hot / in the sun?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on September 28, 2017, 06:27:05 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 28, 2017, 03:51:59 PM
Microfibers.  And/or glass-specific cloths. Use less glass cleaner. Practice makes perfect. Always do a final wipe with a clean/dry towel.
Someone suggested newspaper to me.  It works.  Scrunch it up and wipe after spraying.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 28, 2017, 07:22:31 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on September 28, 2017, 06:27:05 PM
Someone suggested newspaper to me.  It works.  Scrunch it up and wipe after spraying.

I get lots of suggestions like this.  Sure, they may work...but why bother when there are proper tools for the job?  When was the last time you saw a professional glass cleaner using newspaper? :huh:

Just have to make sure the newspaper you use doesn't leak ink when wet. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on September 28, 2017, 08:06:59 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 28, 2017, 07:22:31 PM
I get lots of suggestions like this.  Sure, they may work...but why bother when there are proper tools for the job?  When was the last time you saw a professional glass cleaner using newspaper? :huh:

Just have to make sure the newspaper you use doesn't leak ink when wet. 
It worked better than any cloth I used, even paper towel.  It was just there in the recycling bin and, after using it, I just tossed it away.  May not be up to detailing standards, but it cleaned better than anything else I'd tried.  Couldn't really see a problem with it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on September 29, 2017, 07:07:34 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 28, 2017, 07:22:31 PM
I get lots of suggestions like this.  Sure, they may work...but why bother when there are proper tools for the job?  When was the last time you saw a professional glass cleaner using newspaper? :huh:

Just have to make sure the newspaper you use doesn't leak ink when wet. 

The homeless guy on the corner uses newspaper.  If it's good enough for him, it's good enough for UP Detailing :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on September 29, 2017, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 28, 2017, 04:33:33 PM
Is the windshield hot / in the sun?
Yes... I hear that doesn't help

I cleaned it with alcohol and then dried it with a ~350ish microfiber cloth. Naturally it's cloudy today but I haven't noticed any haze from street/head lights. Hopefully this is it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 29, 2017, 09:44:22 AM
Yeahhhh don't clean things in the sun. Detailing 101.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on September 29, 2017, 05:10:01 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 25, 2017, 08:43:20 PM
Oh Jesus.  Were you being sarcastic? :lol:

That website is atrocious and his pictures are pathetic, but he seems fairly priced and appears to do acceptable work.

Well, web design and photography aren't skills I expect a detailer to have... But yes, I was serious. I emailed him about how far he'll travel and what he uses on interiors (like, no Armor All), but he never got back. So I guess that's out.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 29, 2017, 05:23:39 PM
I think basic design flow and an eye for good pictures (especially of their own work) are something anybody who's half detail-oriented should almost instinctively understand.  I mean, modern smartphone cameras almost make you have to try to take shitty pictures.  But that's beside the point :lol:

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on September 29, 2017, 05:49:47 PM
Eh, yeah. IMO more of a yellow flag than a red one. Not responding to my communication, though...
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on September 29, 2017, 08:04:09 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 28, 2017, 07:22:31 PM
I get lots of suggestions like this.  Sure, they may work...but why bother when there are proper tools for the job?  When was the last time you saw a professional glass cleaner using newspaper? :huh:

Just have to make sure the newspaper you use doesn't leak ink when wet. 

You'd think, properly bought, that unprinted newsprint paper would be better and cheaper and could be marketed as such.

Who actually buys a newspaper to read anymore anyways?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on September 29, 2017, 08:15:54 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 29, 2017, 08:04:09 PM
You'd think, properly bought, that unprinted newsprint paper would be better and cheaper and could be marketed as such.

Who actually buys a newspaper to read anymore anyways?
They're free these days.  Mostly advertising for the local stores.

Give it a try.  It really works good.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 29, 2017, 11:20:08 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on September 29, 2017, 08:15:54 PM
They're free these days.  Mostly advertising for the local stores.

Give it a try.  It really works good.

I used to put an ad in the newspaper.  Now I don't because Facebook is more effective and free.  And I even went hard on the "green pages" overlay ad printout in the newspaper.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 29, 2017, 11:20:52 PM
Quote from: Rupert on September 29, 2017, 05:49:47 PM
Eh, yeah. IMO more of a yellow flag than a red one. Not responding to my communication, though...

Yeah, like I said, he seems to do acceptable work.  Lack of communication kills it.  Head this way, I'll detail your shit.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on October 01, 2017, 03:36:57 PM
Meet in Boise?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 01, 2017, 03:50:58 PM
Nah, Minnesota.  We can go give FBC shit for ghosting us all on his project cars. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 09, 2017, 04:13:36 PM
De-sapped a Chrysler 200 today.  Used isopropyl alcohol, which worked really well.  Just dumped it into an empty spray bottle for ease of use. Way cheaper than the Turtle Wax type crap from the store that doesn't work. Spray, soak for a minute or so, lightly scrub with a microfiber, rinse, repeat.  Used a plastic razor blade on the windows and on really thick globs on the paint (carefully), and a clay bar mitt to finish it off.  Added about 2 hours to my wash process, for which I charged accordingly.  She still tipped me $50 and a couple Canadian beers (she's Canadian). :ohyeah:

(https://i.imgur.com/UbfienT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jnoHKSM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VIlNhRd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Inl6I6u.jpg)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on October 09, 2017, 05:11:38 PM
Good job :ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on October 09, 2017, 07:19:56 PM
Wow, that's a lot of sap!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 09, 2017, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: Rupert on October 09, 2017, 07:19:56 PM
Wow, that's a lot of sap!

It's their first fall in their house...parked under a pine tree near the driveway.  Rest assured, they won't be making that mistake again.  They moved here from Canada, so I was kinda surprised they didn't see it coming, but perhaps where they're from isn't heavy on the trees...Saskatchewan.  I avoid parking under any tree as much as I can.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on October 09, 2017, 07:36:05 PM
I don't think they have trees in Saskatchewan :huh:, just a whole bunch of wheat.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 09, 2017, 07:38:51 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 09, 2017, 07:36:05 PM
I don't think they have trees in Saskatchewan :huh:, just a whole bunch of wheat.

Yeahhhh after a quick Google it sounds like a pretty plains-y area.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 93JC on October 09, 2017, 09:51:52 PM
Most of Saskatchewan is actually lakes and boreal forest. You would love it—northern Saskatchewan is very, very sparsely populated.

The vast majority of the province's population is in the south though, which is mostly plains used for farmland.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 09, 2017, 10:32:06 PM
Ahhh nice. Yeah, I would like it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Cookie Monster on October 10, 2017, 11:59:34 AM
Maybe Sporty creamed all over that 200. :devil:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 10, 2017, 02:05:16 PM
He wouldn't if he had driven it.  That 8spd auto is tuned soooo poorly.  It's like riding with somebody who's been driving a stick for a week.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on October 10, 2017, 07:54:02 PM
9 spd :nono:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 10, 2017, 08:03:32 PM
Still.

Quote from: giant_mtb on October 10, 2017, 02:05:16 PM
It's like riding with somebody who's been driving a stick for a week.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on October 11, 2017, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: 93JC on October 09, 2017, 09:51:52 PM
Most of Saskatchewan is actually lakes and boreal forest. You would love it—northern Saskatchewan is very, very sparsely populated.

The vast majority of the province's population is in the south though, which is mostly plains used for farmland.

Isn't that the entire country except western BC, though?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 93JC on October 13, 2017, 05:06:12 PM
A lot of it, sure.

(http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/16-201-x/2007000/m002_en.gif)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 17, 2017, 06:14:51 PM
Gave mom's Q5 a good wash n wax treatment before winter. Paint's looking good ~62k miles in.

(https://i.imgur.com/RZNkpWb.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on October 17, 2017, 06:37:00 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 17, 2017, 06:14:51 PM
Gave mom's Q5 a good wash n wax treatment before winter. Paint's looking good ~62k miles in.

(https://i.imgur.com/RZNkpWb.jpg)
Did she tip you?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 17, 2017, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 17, 2017, 06:37:00 PM
Did she tip you?

Nah, they've been letting me use their garage for the last 10 years to run my business...they owe me nothing. :ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on October 22, 2017, 12:32:30 PM
Question- I wash my cars with waterless car wash spray. Can I compound after using that? They def leave some kind of protective waxy film when I'm done. I think the residue on the G is just about gone so that should be fine, but there are some clearcoat oxidation spots I wanna hit on the Civic before I put it on the market.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 22, 2017, 12:33:50 PM
If you're gonna buff, you want to actually wash it.  You want your paint to be as clean as possible.  Not washing it would be like wiping your body down with butt wipes before putting on a suit for a wedding.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rupert on October 23, 2017, 03:25:13 PM
I had the XTerra interior detailed at the dealership when it was in for the 60 kmile service (only place open on a Saturday in Boise, $$$), and they did a really good job de-dusting the dust machine, but then they had to Armor All the plastic. :( Oh well, the only part of the bill that was cheaper than expected was the detail, so I'll take what I can get. They threw in a thorough exterior wash too.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 23, 2017, 07:00:43 PM
Nothing like paying money to have somebody slab bacon grease on your dashboard.  Ugh.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on October 24, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
What do you recommend for drying? Just some regular microfiber towels? I saw someone on YT dry their car off with a leafblower but that shit didn't work at all for me.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 24, 2017, 01:22:50 PM
Chamois
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 24, 2017, 01:44:42 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 24, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
What do you recommend for drying? Just some regular microfiber towels? I saw someone on YT dry their car off with a leafblower but that shit didn't work at all for me.

I'll sometimes run my ShopVac as a blower if I'm looking to wax immediately after washing (ie, I'm not doing the interior)...works really well to blow the air out of the side mirrors, bumpers, and all the other cracks.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on November 05, 2017, 10:44:40 AM
Practicing detailing on the Civic, which I thought had pretty decent paint. Def makes a huge difference, I'm pretty shocked! And it's pretty fun too.

Some more questions though.............

-How many times can I use the same pads? Or I guess another way to ask is how do I know when a pad must be tossed?

-I got something weaker than polish, polish and compound and 3 levels of pads. I'm using the harshest pad and the 2nd harshest polish, and there are still some scratches that aren't coming out. They don't seem that deep. Do I need to go up to compound or just make more passes?

-Are polishes/compounds from places like Autozone OK to use? Like Meguiars and Turtle Wax and shit? I have some momentum going and I like what I'm seeing with the Civic so I want to try the G next. But I'm pretty sure I'm gonna run out of this polish (though it looks like I will need to go harsh on the G)

- How the **** do you clean behind door handles?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 05, 2017, 11:32:58 AM
Pads will last a long time.  If you're compounding, I'd recommend washing the pads after the vehicle is done. But for a soft pad you're just using to wax that isn't doing lots of actual work, you don't have to wash them too too often unless they get pretty caked. Normal laundry detergent is fine. There is pad/microfiber specific stuff you can buy and use in the washing machine, but I honestly didn't notice a difference over normal, additive-free detergent.  I have pads that are a few years old and they still work fine even with moderately heavy use.

If something isn't coming out and you think it will with a stronger compound or pad, do it. There's nothing wrong with going over spots a couple times if need be, especially with how safe random orbit is.  I typically keep the pads and compounds "together."  By that I mean I only use a heavy cutting pad with a heavy cut compound, as they're designed for it.  There's nothing wrong with using a stronger pad with a lower compound, though, or vice versa. ie, it won't harm anything either way.

Yeah, auto zone stuff is just fine. If they carry anything from Wizards, I highly recommend them.  I use a lot of Meguiar's products, including stuff that's available at the store. Their Mirror Glaze lineup is basically pro level stuff. Also highly recommended.  A bottle should last you a long time, shouldn't take a whole 16oz to buff a car.  Use enough, but not too much.

Door handles are tricky. You can carefully work the pad in there as much as possible. Try doing it by hand, too. Anything helps. Otherwise, those drill attachment cone pads are probably you're best/only real option.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 05, 2017, 11:38:30 AM
Also, I'm glad you're enjoying it. Practice makes perfect, and once you find a groove, it's an awesome process.  Therapeutic even (which is why I enjoy it as much as I do...instant gratification). Being comfortable with the tool and understanding the compounds you use are the most important parts.

Take any good before/after pics?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 05, 2017, 11:52:21 AM
Also, I will say that a lot of detailing is trial and error.  If something works, it works. If it doesnt, try something else. Experimenting is experience. With all the different pads and compounds and products out there, there's no cookie cutter process beyond the generalities.  Don't be afraid to experiment to find what works for you with the tools you have! 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on November 05, 2017, 01:15:54 PM
Thanks and thanks for all the advice.

I got started on the G.... I think it's making a difference, but it's def not final. Would it make sense to follow up with a lighter polish after? The Civic was good to go but the G def needs something else, even after 3 passes. Do harder compounds/pads leave scratches that lighter ones can take care of?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 05, 2017, 03:33:11 PM
Think of it like sanding wood.  You start with a heavy grit and finish with a lighter grit.  Sanding all day with 80 grit isn't going to get you 800-grit results...it's just going to eat all the wood.  Especially for black paint, going through a multi-stage process is key to get the results you want.  Your cutting compound is like 80 grit paper, and your polish/finish compound is like 200-400 grit.  Wax/glaze/etc is your super smooth 800-1000 grit (ie, virtually non-abrasive). 

So, cut, polish/finish, and seal/glaze/wax.  You don't necessarily want to go over it multiple times with heavy cutting compound if it's not garnering the results.  Heavier pads/compounds can and do leave swirls behind because of the fact that they're more abrasive, and it can be especially noticeable on black paint (black paint is always tough, but super rewarding when done).  You want to use your lighter finishing polish to take care of the remaining swirls and fine scratches left behind by heavier pads/compounds, as that's what it's designed for.  Black paint generally requires you to be thorough and go through the process from top to bottom to get it as close to perfect as possible.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on November 05, 2017, 07:22:23 PM
OK, that makes a lot of sense. I will have to come back to it another day. Is there any risk in waiting a week after just having done nothing but the compound? I finished up with a spray on wash/wax that got rid of the milky haze. Looking forward to seeing it in the daylight tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 05, 2017, 07:40:41 PM
No risk at all.  Just make sure she's washed nicely again before you finish the job.  :ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 05, 2017, 07:43:26 PM
What exactly do you mean by three passes?  Do you mean that you compound a section, wipe it off, and then repeat two more times?  Or do you mean that while compounding, you get three passes on the panel area before it's time to wipe off?  Just want to clarify so my advice is accurate. haha :rastaman:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on November 05, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
Three passes before I wipe it off..... wiping off between passes seems like a huge waste of compound :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 05, 2017, 08:03:35 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 05, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
Three passes before I wipe it off..... wiping off between passes seems like a huge waste of compound :lol:

Oh, okay.  I didn't mean wiping off between every pass, I meant like buffing a section with multiple passes, wiping it off, and then repeating two more times.  Gah, I dunno, I'm confusing myself now. :lol:

Three passes before you're ready to wipe the polish off isn't abnormal at all and probably a good place to be, so edit that part of the brain.  I don't think I've ever really consciously counted my passes, but it probably ranges anywhere from 3-5 and I overlap about 1/3 to 1/2.  Temperature and humidity can affect how the polish acts, or sometimes you just feel like you should do another pass or two...not a problem.  The polish will tell you if and when it's time to knock it off, if anything, as that's often what I go by.  You'll get the feel of it eventually :rastaman:

Either way, the whole sandpaper concept still applies.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on November 06, 2017, 04:37:09 AM
I have to count out loud or I will be super inconsistent. I learned that about myself in the gym. For trouble spots (I think the PO had trouble finding the door handles in the dark and would try and find them with their nails :( ) I probably went over like 5-7 times in total. It was hard work though, damn.... kind of sore today.

I guess my last 2 questions are... well for now at least.... you see the nostrils and creases on my front bumper. Will I just have to attack that by hand? Orbital won't spin over those kinds of ridges. And also, is there ANY easy way to clean wheels? I got one of those spray things and it did jack shit.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 06, 2017, 09:01:54 AM
Yeah, detailing is kind of a low-impact, low-intensity workout. :lol: Nothing particularly strenuous, but you're constantly holding onto a weight (at least while buffing), putting your body in weird positions, etc.  Just make sure you're not applying too much pressure on the buffer...let the tool do the work.  Moderate pressure is totally fine, especially for digging a bit at some deep scratches, but on the same lines as sanding, you want to lessen the pressure as you go through the stages.  Light pressure during finishing polish, and then virtually no pressure besides the weight of the tool for your final wax and such.

For your front bumper, yeah, just do what you can.  Use the buffer on all the surfaces you're comfortable touching with it and do others by hand.  You'll probably be the only one to be able to notice a real difference, as it'll just blend together to most people, especially down low on a bumper.  The more you buff, the better you'll get at using the tool on trickier surfaces.  You could also consider getting a drill attachment that accepts smaller ~3" buffing pads, which can be useful in tight spots, on headlights, etc.  https://www.autogeek.net/drill-backing-plate.html

For wheels, not sure what you mean about spray things (foam gun?), but using the right wheel cleaner is really the only thing that matters.  Using something like Meg's Wheel Brightener or CarPro IronX will make your wheel cleaning life so much easier.  Apply, wait the appropriate amount of time, wash with a brush and soapy water, rinse, and repeat if necessary.  I haven't used a store-bought wheel cleaner in years, so I can't really suggest which one may be best.  Wheel Brightener is my everyday go-to wheel cleaner and it tackles 90% of the wheels I see with relative ease (ie, one pass).  IronX is a bit stronger, but is tangibly more expensive, so I only use it when I have to.  A gallon of Wheel Brigthener is $20 on Autogeek and you can dilute it into spray bottles 4:1, so it's well worth the money.  I also highly recommend a Speedmaster Wheel Brush, especially for wheels like yours where the inner wheel is really visible.

https://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-d140-combo.html
https://www.autogeek.net/daytona-special.html

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on November 06, 2017, 10:26:05 AM
Cool, I will jump on that. I hope you are getting AG referral money :lol:

The LED floodlights I use in my garage are harsh AF. Under diffuse daylight the G looks great. Still a lot of blemishes like bird shit etchings and just general nasty scratches, but the spider web shit and acid rain marks are gone. I think tonight I might attack the headlights.

Ha, another question... how do I clean my pads? I tried to throw them in the washing machine :facepalm: I read something about soaking them. What do you do
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 06, 2017, 12:02:12 PM
Yeah, sunlight is almost always much prettier than harsh shop lights.

I clean my pads in the washing machine. I'll do a load of microfibers and pads that are generally clean and a separate load of microfibers that are legit dirty.  Did they not come clean well?  I used to soak mine in the sink with Dawn and then scrub them out by hand, but I got sick of that and just started washing machining them with my microfibers, haven't looked back. Warm wash, cold rinse, like everything I wash.

As I mentioned a few comments up, I've used both detergent and microfiber-/pad-specific cleaner and didn't notice too much of a difference.  I'm gonna use up the bottle and go back to dye/additive free detergent. Don't use dryer sheets or anything above low heat (no heat recommended).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on December 27, 2017, 01:09:38 PM
I was gonna sand & polish the headlights on the Mazda6 this week, but it's kinda tough to wetsand in 15 degree weather. :rage:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on May 21, 2018, 10:00:19 AM
I need to do fix the paint on the KIA. Just thinking through the process

Wash
Clay? (How do I know if I need to clay? There aren't any sap spots or anything like that)
Use least harsh compound
Seal/wax (W/a synthetic, correct? Should I apply with the orbital buffer?)

Paint is nowhere near as bad as the G but it is black so it needs some help.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on May 21, 2018, 11:08:57 AM
Definitely clay before using any compound. You're getting to wreck your clear coat otherwise.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 21, 2018, 11:14:42 AM
You know you need to clay if, when the paint is clean, you can still feel 3D contaminants on the paint. Just gently run your fingers around to find out. If you're planning to buff, clay barring is good practice anyways, and you'll be glad you did it.

Also highly recommend a clay bar mitt.  So much faster and easier, available on autogeek.net.

Feel free to apply your wax/sealant with the orbital buffer, just turn the speed way down and use a finishing pad or jeweling pad.  Wax doesn't have to be synthetic, my go-to right now is Collinite's Insulator wax.  Sealants are generally always synthetic and will likely last longer than a wax, but both will provide similar results.

I much prefer waxing with the buffer, as it's faster and more consistent. Does a lot more motions than by hand, so the wax gets spread really nicely and evenly.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on May 21, 2018, 05:07:27 PM
Wtf is this KIA deal? I don't see a thread.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on May 21, 2018, 05:37:43 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 21, 2018, 05:07:27 PM
Wtf is this KIA deal? I don't see a thread.
I totalled the G at the speedway  :cry:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on May 21, 2018, 05:46:21 PM
Yeah but where is the Kia thread?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 08, 2018, 09:01:08 AM
Thinking I'm gonna pick up one of these.  My city has very hard water and the little in-line RV water filters I've been using don't cut it.  Pricey, but probably worth it.  It's a PITA sometimes to keep making sure I've got all the water off the paint, especially on larger trucks where there's enough time between washing one side and the other for it to dry off.

https://www.autogeek.net/cr-spotless-rolling-system-300.html

Could pick up something similar from the hardware store, but I like this one because it is portable, so if I'm ever doing mobile jobs like an RV/trailer or something else that I have to wash outside and potentially in the sun, I can take it with.

(https://sep.yimg.com/ca/I/autogeek_2268_123926371)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: shp4man on June 16, 2018, 01:25:42 PM
Just finished hand washing and waxing the Focus. White paint  :facepalm: The shit blinds you in the sun, and in the shade you can't see if the wax is buffed off properly.
Plus it shows every microscopic tree sap/bird poop particle, which there were about a million of.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 16, 2018, 01:31:03 PM
Gotta go by feel, mang. :rastaman:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: shp4man on June 16, 2018, 01:32:23 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 16, 2018, 01:31:03 PM
Gotta go by feel, mang. :rastaman:

Whats the worst color?
2nd question, recommend a brand of car wax.  ;)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 16, 2018, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: shp4man on June 16, 2018, 01:32:23 PM
Whats the worst color?
2nd question, recommend a brand of car wax.  ;)

Depends on what you mean. Black is worst in general because it shows dirt and swirls/scratches. Whites are also a pain, especially around here because rail dust, but they don't really show clearcoat scratches.  Both look phenomenal when clean (as most colors do).

Collinite 845 Insulator Wax. Available on Amazon. My go-to for the last couple summers.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: shp4man on June 16, 2018, 01:41:14 PM
Thanks.  :ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 16, 2018, 02:17:07 PM
Rail dust removal.  CarPro IronX.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/c51rdj7fv/20180604_120342.jpg)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/m3mpzjbl7/20180604_163500.jpg)

A bit of degreaser or clear coat brightener is an excellent way to remove road film and gunk when washing to bring back the super white (wax after, of course). Usually only necessary on the lower portions of the vehicle that are most subject to road spray, like fender line and below.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/j9jkm86vv/20180522_193031.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/AeDxYti.jpg)

One thing to always keep in mind, is that your wash is just as/more important than the wax itself.  Wax is just makeup...if you didn't take a shower and wash your face, first...sweet analogy, right? lol
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: shp4man on June 16, 2018, 02:30:32 PM
If that truck is any indication of your average customer I can see why you do a good business.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 16, 2018, 02:47:14 PM
Quote from: shp4man on June 16, 2018, 02:30:32 PM
If that truck is any indication of your average customer I can see why you do a good business.

Thanks man.  Yeah, that's pretty much how they all come out.  I don't half ass anything...being a one man show doesn't allow for it. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on June 16, 2018, 07:47:08 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 16, 2018, 02:17:07 PM
Rail dust removal.  CarPro IronX.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/c51rdj7fv/20180604_120342.jpg)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/m3mpzjbl7/20180604_163500.jpg)

A bit of degreaser or clear coat brightener is an excellent way to remove road film and gunk when washing to bring back the super white (wax after, of course). Usually only necessary on the lower portions of the vehicle that are most subject to road spray, like fender line and below.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/j9jkm86vv/20180522_193031.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/AeDxYti.jpg)

One thing to always keep in mind, is that your wash is just as/more important than the wax itself.  Wax is just makeup...if you didn't take a shower and wash your face, first...sweet analogy, right? lol
Amazing transformation.  What's your wash routine?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on June 18, 2018, 06:52:27 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 16, 2018, 07:47:08 PM
Amazing transformation.  What's your wash routine?
IMO there are so many thousands of products it gets really confusing for normal mortals:
But I've sort of distilled it down to:
1) Wash with a bucketful of water and decent car wash liquid.
2) Clay bar
3) Pre-wax cleaner
4) Decent wax

I have some applicators for the cleaner & wax and loads of microfiber cloths & towels.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 18, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 16, 2018, 07:47:08 PM
What's your wash routine?

Oh boy...I'll have to type it up another time.  It'll take me 2 hours to thoroughly wash a full size pickup truck to my satisfaction, and that's at a professional's speed.  It might take me 4 hours to type up a wash routine. :lol:

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on June 21, 2018, 09:15:23 AM
That Silverado looks brand new after you got through with it.  Impressive work.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2018, 09:27:23 AM
Quote from: Submariner on June 21, 2018, 09:15:23 AM
That Silverado looks brand new after you got through with it.  Impressive work.

Thanks man.  I truly enjoy it.  It can be a PITA sometimes working on neglected vehicles, but seeing the finished product and having a happy customer is always worth it. My current running joke for people that are all smiles when they see their car is "yeah, I went and got you a new one!" :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on June 21, 2018, 10:11:52 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 21, 2018, 09:27:23 AM
Thanks man.  I truly enjoy it.  It can be a PITA sometimes working on neglected vehicles, but seeing the finished product and having a happy customer is always worth it. My current running joke for people that are all smiles when they see their car is "yeah, I went and got you a new one!" :lol:

I know what you mean.  Last week I washed by dads truck...it wasn't particularly dirty, but there is something very satisfying about giving it a nice hand wash and rinse. 

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on June 21, 2018, 10:14:25 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 18, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Oh boy...I'll have to type it up another time.  It'll take me 2 hours to thoroughly wash a full size pickup truck to my satisfaction, and that's at a professional's speed.  It might take me 4 hours to type up a wash routine. :lol:


Just wondered about type of soap, cleaners, etc.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2018, 10:28:36 AM
Quote from: Submariner on June 21, 2018, 10:11:52 AM
I know what you mean.  Last week I washed by dads truck...it wasn't particularly dirty, but there is something very satisfying about giving it a nice hand wash and rinse. 



Yeah, the relatively instant gratification is great.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2018, 10:39:13 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 21, 2018, 10:14:25 AM
Just wondered about type of soap, cleaners, etc.

Soap - Meguiar's Shampoo Plus and Dawn Ultra
Wheels and Chrome - Meguiar's Wheel Brightener (clear coat safe, so a good paint cleaner, as well)
Tires/Wheelwells - Zep Industrial Purple degreaser (or whatever your local hardware store equivalent is)
Iron filings - CarPro IronX

Wax - Collinite Insulator #845

Interior panels and such - Meg's Quik Interior Detailer (with a dab of Hyper Dressing mixed in for a little more gloss...but not much, don't want anything greasy or reflective)
Leather - Meg's Leather Cleaner & Conditioner
Glass - Foaming glass cleaner (aeresol can) or isopropyl alcohol
Carpeting/Upholstery - Zep Instant Spot Remover and general carpet shampoo

Door Jambs (which I wash) - Meg's X-Press Spray Wax
Tire Dressing - Meg's Hyper Dressing

Ummmmm not much else besides polishing compounds and buffing pads and stuff which I can list if you're curious.

I use a lot of Meguiar's stuff. I buy by the gallon through AutoGeek.  Meg's stuff is priced great and their professional Detailer line of products work really well for me.  I experiment with new stuff here and there, but my core stuff usually sticks for a while unless I find something new/better.  I used to use Meg's Yellow Carnauba, which was good, but I'm really digging the Collinite wax at the moment, for example.

Stuff like glass cleaner, Dawn, degreaser, carpet shampoo, etc I just get locally at Menards.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on June 21, 2018, 11:02:10 AM
Sprayway glass cleaner is my favorite. Comes in an aerosol can and doesn't streak
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on June 21, 2018, 11:18:21 AM
Appreciate the information.  I got lots of time now to pay more attention to our car.  Just need a bit more energy.  I'll try some of the products you mentioned.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2018, 08:28:47 PM
Got my CR Spotless system in.  Got a dedicated output hose for it so I don't have to think about cross contamination or waiting for it to push out the un-filtered water. These garden hose quick-connect fittings (like an air tool) are a godsend.  Takes 4 seconds to disconnect my washing hose and hook the supply hose up to the system. It's rated for 300 gallons before fresh resin may be needed...will probably be a bit less with our shit municipal water...so it will only be used for rinsing, which is its main intended use anyways. It has a meter on it to indicate ppm so you know when it's time to change.  Sittin' at zero. :rockon:

Haven't used it yet, just got it put together tonight.  First victim comes tomorrow.

EDIT:  Confirmed, this is the real deal.  What a cool thing to have.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/ptirymx0r/20180621_220029.jpg)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2018, 08:59:31 PM
This interior today was pretty trashed.  Started the day off with a Buick Lucerne that was already quite clean.  Then tackled this fairly neglected mini van...I dunno how people can stand their vehicle having a sandbox in the driver's footwell. hah

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35826243_10156278170232211_3486289404442443776_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e45392497a552a128b9c4d7d9f641c6f&oe=5BADBA05)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35922649_10156278170352211_8420818914690203648_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=38093a091a0fdccf963a4ab127c516fb&oe=5BAE55D9)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36002946_10156278170482211_8165611854882668544_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=ee2b5e3ba5d7bba745f4761c09be2c25&oe=5BB4E576)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35846503_10156278170692211_2528016749698220032_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=9e7b0befd5180e6421d6e8965fa78c8a&oe=5BABF323)

That stain remaining on the driver's mat was the best I could do...when salt stains are left to build for too long, they like eat the fibers and turn rock hard.  Nothing you can do.

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35844667_10156278169107211_1888879556824137728_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=cde4d424ad3abd688369510744e009db&oe=5BB16EEA)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35834430_10156278169357211_6686697702534676480_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=76aa57be6ffb126c35e1087a50f35244&oe=5BBEA08F)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Laconian on June 21, 2018, 09:39:32 PM
The minivan looks clean, but no Chrysler vans of that generation can ever look good.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2018, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: Laconian on June 21, 2018, 09:39:32 PM
The minivan looks clean, but no Chrysler vans of that generation can ever look good.

They're quite...utilitarian.  I don't mind them, and they're very functional (Stow n Go is amazing), but yeah...not exactly lookers.

One of the best things about Stow n Go is it minimizes all the sub-floor rails and mounting points and shit.  Which on a vehicle like the Traverse, just get destroyyyyyed with gunk, especially with kids...wrappers, pens, lighters, batteries, bouncy balls, you name it...such a PITA to clean out.  They also get really sticky, making sliding the seats fore/aft a serious task.  Did a neglected Traverse the other day and the passenger side rear seat would hardly budge.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/717w8kElJ2L._SL1024_.jpg)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 22, 2018, 09:20:43 PM
Speaking of Traverses, I did an Acadia today for my dentist.  Doing his other car Monday.  He's paying for about 37% of the crown I had put in last week by patronizing me. :lol:

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35972451_10156280372782211_3764966093995638784_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=af1820dcc69bf1e46a20c01391483eac&oe=5BEA2E89)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35924226_10156280373187211_6364947138157215744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=d22b46983828d3109a2848528e284b57&oe=5BB6D423)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36002819_10156280373592211_4173059957882617856_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=bae40236d952c8def816b152c4eae345&oe=5BA2D383)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35919486_10156280373802211_449135613589848064_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=0f182e8ff3ddb3d54999fda236f70ece&oe=5BAA581D)


Also did an interior detail on this particularly dirty Rav-4.  Luckily, the carpeting on these Toyotas is very low-pile, industrial-like, so stuff like dog hair comes out fairly easily, as do stains.  Customer was very pleased.  Rolled up with a 6-pack of Busch Light pints as a tip. :rockon:

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35923032_10156280374002211_2583868289667039232_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e4ccb30f5f49d973d238baa9f834bf72&oe=5BB633B1)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35970872_10156280374107211_7456487414006022144_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=f345eb197b6f37c296ba348c1a66c695&oe=5BA46D6A)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36087313_10156280374667211_4534168782221869056_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=02158ce8c2e503be6fbf25314c1e13bf&oe=5BA2B4C3)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35972592_10156280374807211_2460717588582236160_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=268fd8f189a164f58c1da45c0a48ef99&oe=5BB373CC)

Long day!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on June 23, 2018, 12:09:07 PM
Oh man that RAV4 looked disgusting
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on June 23, 2018, 01:54:47 PM
Do you have a rug cleaner? (We have a thing that looks like a big vacuum cleaner that shoots water & detergent into the pile & sucks it out again.)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on June 23, 2018, 02:02:23 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 22, 2018, 09:20:43 PM
Speaking of Traverses, I did an Acadia today for my dentist.  Doing his other car Monday.  He's paying for about 37% of the crown I had put in last week by patronizing me. :lol:


(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36087313_10156280374667211_4534168782221869056_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=02158ce8c2e503be6fbf25314c1e13bf&oe=5BA2B4C3)


Long day!
What is that thing dangling down from the console?  You'd think the guy could've at least removed that before he gave you the car.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 23, 2018, 04:57:21 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 23, 2018, 02:02:23 PM
What is that thing dangling down from the console?  You'd think the guy could've at least removed that before he gave you the car.

Eh?  It was just a phone charger. haha.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 23, 2018, 04:58:28 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 23, 2018, 01:54:47 PM
Do you have a rug cleaner? (We have a thing that looks like a big vacuum cleaner that shoots water & detergent into the pile & sucks it out again.)

Yes.  I have a Mytee hot water extractor.  Same concept, just purpose built/industrial. 1000W in-line heater.

https://www.autogeek.net/mytee-hot-water-extractor.html

Mine is the generation before that one, but it's essentially the same.  Had to replace the solution pump once because it froze (my fault for leaving it out) and cracked a seal and I've gone through a few attachments (to be expected), but its been great otherwisr.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on June 25, 2018, 11:26:18 AM
Do you have an Instagram account by any chance?

These before and after shots would make for good posts.  Learn how to tag properly, perhaps use a service to build followers and run some promos (for example, a 50% off detailing for the 1000th follower to your page), etc.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 25, 2018, 02:43:10 PM
I post all these before/after shots on my business FB page and most everyone has both as it is.  I suppose I could create an Insta for it as well and just connect them.

Just one more social media account to manage though...ugh.  And hashtags annoy the fuck out of me. :fogey:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 25, 2018, 09:23:38 PM
sneak peak at the police vehicle.  it's done, just want to take pictures outside in the sun in the morning for the full before/after effect, as I took the before pics outside as well.

(https://i.imgur.com/n11dHNk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4WV23Rt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jYQ3Rrm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3XD3QSD.jpg)

I'm 94% happy with it. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on June 25, 2018, 11:21:32 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 25, 2018, 02:43:10 PM
I post all these before/after shots on my business FB page and most everyone has both as it is.  I suppose I could create an Insta for it as well and just connect them.

Just one more social media account to manage though...ugh.  And hashtags annoy the fuck out of me. :fogey:

Instagram drives far more "engagement" and is much better for advertising your business.  If you have to choose between the two, make an Instagram account and ditch FB.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2018, 06:10:12 AM
Quote from: Submariner on June 25, 2018, 11:21:32 PM
Instagram drives far more "engagement" and is much better for advertising your business.  If you have to choose between the two, make an Instagram account and ditch FB.

I'm inclined to disagree.  My main demographic is middle aged and seniors...they're not on Insta hashtagging.

Like I said, I could make an Insta for it and simply link them.  Couldn't hurt.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2018, 08:00:41 AM
Little overcast this morning, but she came out nice.  The power of machine buffing!

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on June 26, 2018, 08:13:48 AM
Amazing.  How long did that take?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2018, 08:17:37 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 26, 2018, 08:13:48 AM
Amazing.  How long did that take?

About 7 hours, including a quick interior spruce-up.  The buffing process itself was probably 3.5-4 of those hours.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2018, 04:02:36 PM
Another pearly white Silverado today.

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 27, 2018, 02:24:19 PM
RX350.  Nice vehicle.  I'm a big Toyota fan (obviously), and the Lexus touches and quality are quite nice.  What are these based on?  Rav-4?

(didn't take any before pictures...it was already pretty clean...she'd just got it a couple weeks ago)

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: mzziaz on June 27, 2018, 02:27:41 PM
Do you ever do any prewash, like nerta?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 27, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
Not really, no. Closest I get to a prewash soak is when I apply degreaser or brightener to stuff before washing. Does the job.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 29, 2018, 03:16:43 PM
Some other vehicles from this week...had a solid week, met a number of new, nice people and did some work for some long-timers as well.

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Really like the green on this Rav4.

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This van is siiiiick.  Totally loaded up.  Would be an awesome road tripper.  They'd recently got back from a trip to Florida with the grandkids...thankfully the interior wasn't dirty at all by mini-van+kids standards.  Just really buggy on the front end, windshield, and side mirrors.  No real trick to de-bugging...just soak with degreaser, wash, rinse, and repeat as necessary.  The mirrors and windshield came clean with one pass, the front bumper/grille took two. 

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 29, 2018, 03:22:02 PM
Also ordered a new electric pressure washer as mine shit out like a month ago.  Gonna use it just for the final rinse with the water coming from the CR filter system.  It'll use less water than the standard hose, allowing for longer filter life.  Got this one, with relatively low pressure and low flow (by pressure washer standards).  Don't need anything crazy.  1,800psi at 1.2gpm.  I think Menards actually has these in stock, but the Amazon one click buy button got the better of me... :lol:

Let's hope it lasts!  It should, it'll be fairly light, but daily use.  Only thing is they're so fuckin' annoying to listen to, especially in the confines of a garage.  I thought about maybe building a big sound-proof-ish box for it... :lol:

http://a.co/e8NhaPi

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 29, 2018, 11:03:29 PM
Kota providing moral support after washing mom's Q5.  Was 90+ degrees today with high humidity.  He even sun-bathed for a bit...fuckin' trooper.  He's my best friend.  100% adventure pal.

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on June 30, 2018, 05:04:02 AM
What do you use for a degreaser for front bug splatter?

When I cleaned up the Prius I'm selling (https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=488752596 (https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=488752596)), I washed it first then used some old foul-smelling Simoniz bug & tar remover I found in the garage. I resorted to soaking a 00000 steel wool pad in the stuff.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 30, 2018, 08:13:00 AM
I use Zep Industrial Purple degreaser. Available by the gallon at my local/favorite hardware store, Menards.  I seldom recommend using steel wool of any kind on paint. Better to soak/wash/rinse/repeat than to scrub with something that abrasive. Not too much to worry about on white paint (doesn't show much in the way of clear coat scratches, but).

Bug&tar removal products are pretty hit or miss.  Degreaser really is the way to go.  Dissolves bug guts like nothing else and has a multitude of other uses for your garage needs.

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I use this for bugs, tires, and wheel wells. It's very dilutible. I dilute into a 32oz spray bottle. A little goes a long way (I think the recommendation is somewhere around 4-6oz per gallon for heavy soils...I usually do 2-3oz per spray bottle, so it's plenty strong).

It's great stuff.  Your local hardware store should have an equivalent. ~$10/gal.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 30, 2018, 08:27:34 AM
For the record, your Prius looks super clean. Good work to you or whoever detailed it (sounds like you did it?).  White paint can be tough.  Interior looks great, too.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on June 30, 2018, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 30, 2018, 08:27:34 AM
For the record, your Prius looks super clean. Good work to you or whoever detailed it (sounds like you did it?).  White paint can be tough.  Interior looks great, too.
Hey thanks. I will get a bottle of the degreaser - pretty sure they carry it at Home Depot (no Menards down here unfortunately.) The Prius was filthy - took a lot of washing, then a claybar job with a claybar mitt (love that thing) - it pulled a shit-ton more embedded grime out. Probably the most satisfying was cleaning the door jams - it makes such a difference to the way a car presents.
Nonetheless, elderly Prius's are difficult to sell. No responses so far to the Autotrader ad.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 01, 2018, 12:04:20 AM
Yeah, those clay bar mitts are amazing, eh?  Sliced bread.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Payman on July 02, 2018, 09:24:44 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 30, 2018, 12:15:28 PM
Hey thanks. I will get a bottle of the degreaser - pretty sure they carry it at Home Depot (no Menards down here unfortunately.) The Prius was filthy - took a lot of washing, then a claybar job with a claybar mitt (love that thing) - it pulled a shit-ton more embedded grime out. Probably the most satisfying was cleaning the door jams - it makes such a difference to the way a car presents.
Nonetheless, elderly Prius's are difficult to sell. No responses so far to the Autotrader ad.

Probably anxiety over the age of the battery/electronics. First gen Leafs are basically worthless.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 19, 2018, 07:20:29 AM
Not super pleased with the CR Spotless.  I dunno if it's just 'cause our water here really sucks, or what, but I didn't get that much out of it before the meter spiked and I was getting spots again.  Maybe 12 washes?  Hardly 300 gallons worth, as advertised.  Sigh.  Only been using it for final rinsing, too, not the whole wash cycle.  I estimate the full wash uses 25-50 gallons depending on the vehicle.  Final rinse is like...3-5 gallons per?  Sigh.

Ordered new resin for the filters, should be here Friday.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 19, 2018, 03:00:31 PM
If anyone is looking for some wheel cleaner, I highly recommend this stuff.  And this is a sweet deal...2 gallons and a spray bottle for $43...normal price for one gallon is $24, so you'll get many, many wheel cleanings from the combo pack for a sweet price.  Stuff dilutes 4:1.  Was gonna buy some more myself and was like...uhhh...might as well get the two gallon deal!  Can always use more spray bottles. :rockon:

https://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-d140-combo.html
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 19, 2018, 03:15:37 PM
I love when it's cloudy or shady in the morning...then sunny in the afternoon for the "after" pics...always enhances the effect. :lol:

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 20, 2018, 10:35:11 AM
ALSO.  PRO TIP.

Whenever you order from Autogeek.net...use the promo code CD10 for 10% off your order.  I believe it's from Car & Driver wayyy back in the day...still works.  I use it every time.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 20, 2018, 01:41:16 PM
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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 20, 2018, 09:52:56 PM
Got the fresh resin for the CR filters. Back to 0ppm. :rockon:

$90 though, goddamn!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 21, 2018, 04:15:10 PM
What are your least & most favorite vehicle makes & models to detail?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 22, 2018, 03:28:37 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 21, 2018, 04:15:10 PM
What are your least & most favorite vehicle makes & models to detail?

I've been asked this before and I'm not sure I really have an answer, honestly.  My favorite cars are slightly dirty ones and my least favorites are disaster cars... :lol:

Toyota, Subaru, and GM trucks - for whatever reason - have some of my favorite paint. Toyo/Subie have some excellent, low-pile high-traffic style carpeting that comes clean easily...doesn't trap bullshit like a lot of thicker, more luxurious carpeting does.

Any FCA product more than a generation old......such piles of shit, and their condition typically reflects it.

I HATE GM for the seat rail system in the Traverse.  I dunno what they were thinking. If you have kids, the rails are gonna end up a sloppy, sticky mess and after a while you'll barely even be able to slide a seat fore/aft.  Ugh. 

Stow N Go is where it's at...one of the best and only things FCA does right. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on July 23, 2018, 06:17:24 PM
That black Subaru looks particularly good in the 'after' shot. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 27, 2018, 06:06:11 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 30, 2018, 08:13:00 AM
I use Zep Industrial Purple degreaser. Available by the gallon at my local/favorite hardware store, Menards.  I seldom recommend using steel wool of any kind on paint. Better to soak/wash/rinse/repeat than to scrub with something that abrasive. Not too much to worry about on white paint (doesn't show much in the way of clear coat scratches, but).

Bug&tar removal products are pretty hit or miss.  Degreaser really is the way to go.  Dissolves bug guts like nothing else and has a multitude of other uses for your garage needs.

I use this for bugs, tires, and wheel wells. It's very dilutible. I dilute into a 32oz spray bottle. A little goes a long way (I think the recommendation is somewhere around 4-6oz per gallon for heavy soils...I usually do 2-3oz per spray bottle, so it's plenty strong).

It's great stuff.  Your local hardware store should have an equivalent. ~$10/gal.
I bought this stuff and used it to remove the long-embedded squished bugs on my G37. It is awesome. Thank you.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 27, 2018, 06:19:17 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 27, 2018, 06:06:11 PM
I bought this stuff and used it to remove the long-embedded squished bugs on my G37. It is awesome. Thank you.

Nice!  Glad it worked out for you.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 27, 2018, 06:50:10 PM
Some recent projex.

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37858254_10156364360282211_3622449475567484928_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=90381b315a38dd9f401f417ca821eca4&oe=5C0AD629)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37804961_10156364360897211_4922733331029688320_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=cc9be0084a4322271dcdd86b8c4601a6&oe=5BD52652)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37850630_10156364361692211_3089884023468589056_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=358f258bef5686c6903657cf2da6c005&oe=5C113738)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37861619_10156364363002211_6123932518606438400_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=0b4e40634b044a64c76600d71930bc22&oe=5BDE77BB)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37907273_10156364363142211_3873734830801813504_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=96e1ce496d626ab1b67cf5dac0744d85&oe=5BDB4E25)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37827001_10156361756622211_3778727942306136064_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e57865e2a340324d5f964a10c386b928&oe=5BC7EC7B)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37854373_10156361757362211_3559595137451425792_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=56942ae0ad8c104a6b944ae476f314bf&oe=5BCD1C3D)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37852115_10156361757652211_6735941581347487744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1f526b9d5a7af519c18e53fe5e23f230&oe=5BC798D4)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37811287_10156361758142211_1650005716477411328_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=7747032cc23779d99ddc1678abcd12c2&oe=5BCE7035)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37888070_10156361758402211_5851148880665640960_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=c3a8078f2259f4f7eaf68b9138918f70&oe=5BDC2BBF)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37952763_10156361758517211_7389854496806928384_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1be454c148dadf743a5287d7197928a7&oe=5C083E40)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37854373_10156361758672211_4996989952618135552_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=47099f4b9a9767961ce86f91f321afec&oe=5BDE1555)

Didn't snag any "before" pictures of this one...

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37797031_10156359471032211_6160709537583071232_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=5f0541daf80c8e7dc33cfaa50eed49d0&oe=5BC94654)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37827692_10156359471242211_3900754534485458944_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=190fe79f26206badcf4ebdd20c438e98&oe=5C0D28AD)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37583271_10156359471707211_1852033899975147520_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=7ba2ff0570dd8779afb8fd137524aed6&oe=5C086F76)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 28, 2018, 05:39:28 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 27, 2018, 06:50:10 PM
Some recent projex.
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37861619_10156364363002211_6123932518606438400_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=0b4e40634b044a64c76600d71930bc22&oe=5BDE77BB)
That was more or less the state of mine before the magic Zep treatment.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 29, 2018, 08:48:03 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 28, 2018, 05:39:28 AM
That was more or less the state of mine before the magic Zep treatment.

Lighter colors are hell for bugs.  Glad you got it taken care of. Good stuff, eh? :rockon:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 30, 2018, 03:15:27 PM
Nice lookin' Ruby today.  Owner is the guy who bought the building behind mine.  He's planning to put a brewery/pub in there.  :rockon:

Decent amount of wiry dog hair, so that's always fun.

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38050982_10156371633182211_8160556394907435008_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=53914ee289905a5ca980aafc39ee3412&oe=5BDAA202)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38011863_10156371633302211_4717624616598634496_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e2af2278e37ee952d51cd88dd22afac6&oe=5C1017F7)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37998794_10156371633402211_8383534101730164736_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=2d975299fe5df6ee14ab61b35c442327&oe=5BC548BC)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38013759_10156371633522211_213384708388552704_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=aed035aa46faf6af1218275cbdc6c776&oe=5BCC79EE)


Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on July 30, 2018, 06:09:45 PM
Those wheels are turrrrible.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 30, 2018, 06:22:12 PM
They are odd.

It's a mall crawler.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on July 30, 2018, 06:31:02 PM
With a plough hitch?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 30, 2018, 06:40:33 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 30, 2018, 06:31:02 PM
With a plough hitch?

No, that's just a ridiculous bull bar.

This is what it would be like if it was decked out with a winch and shackles.

(https://www.jeepinoutfitters.com/images/rcs1055-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on July 30, 2018, 08:07:50 PM
On actual rock crawlers, they call them stingers. Properly equipped crawlers can use them kinda like a reverse ramp.

This truck, even being a Rubicon, doesn't.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 93JC on July 30, 2018, 08:26:16 PM
They do a good job punching through other cars' crumple zones too. Unsafe as hell; no roadworthy car should have one.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 30, 2018, 08:32:07 PM
It's one of like 2 Wranglers around here that have them that I've seen.  I've never understood the point as none of them are set up as serious off roaders.  I guess it would be a great way to deflect a deer down instead of having it come up and crunch your hood, but damn.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 31, 2018, 12:05:53 PM
I love that color: can't make my mind up whether it's blue, or gray or green or a all three.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 31, 2018, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 31, 2018, 12:05:53 PM
I love that color: can't make my mind up whether it's blue, or gray or green or a all three.

In person, it's gray.  With a blue tinge, depending on your definition.  No green.

It is a nice color, though.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 31, 2018, 01:01:30 PM
Dig the color scheme on this RAM[/i].

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38120635_10156373751627211_7040434958539685888_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=253014b1dd91c1403819e24f37ee6e9c&oe=5BCBD9F3)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38260507_10156373751832211_2530768595374309376_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=61c03269b7046d576ef6f2dc14b281b8&oe=5C0B66A5)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38085622_10156373752007211_6232458594055356416_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=4c4224227acf8a28b2e81eeb59494c5f&oe=5C047D14)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38086038_10156373752222211_4865525015187030016_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=dd7b7b4ad84a7190d55963b26d14c79f&oe=5BD0D12C)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: SVT_Power on July 31, 2018, 02:02:45 PM
Took a few seconds to realize that's actually a two tone scheme, thought the bottom was darker just due to a reflection
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 31, 2018, 02:25:43 PM
It started pourrrring rain about 5 minutes after I took the pictures.  Was satisfying to watch the water fall off of it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 31, 2018, 02:31:08 PM
lol did you have to wipe it off again?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 31, 2018, 02:50:10 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 31, 2018, 02:31:08 PM
lol did you have to wipe it off again?

Nah.  Considered it, but with a fresh coat of wax, the remaining water is just gonna run off once it's driven anyway.  The guy came to pick it up shortly after the rain stopped, so no worries.  I always apologize when that happens...mostly 'cause it's annoying to me that I just finished a 5-6 hour project and now it's getting rained on...but nobody cares.  "It was gonna get rained on eventually" is the typical response.  Plus the roads were probably still wet on his drive home, so it would have been fairly futile to bother.

"If I could control the weather, my profession wouldn't be detailing" is also another line I use.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on August 02, 2018, 10:52:11 AM
Whats your take on ceramic coatings

Are they something I could apply with my random orbital?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 03, 2018, 02:13:42 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on August 02, 2018, 10:52:11 AM
Whats your take on ceramic coatings

Are they something I could apply with my random orbital?

To get the best out of them, you gotta put in the work.  Clay bar, etc.  Follow the directions for the product and you'll be pleased. There was wax, then synthetic sealants, and now ceramics. 

Liquid Glass was my first forray into synthetic coatings and that shit is incredible.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on August 03, 2018, 07:32:16 AM
You gonna ceramic coat the whole car?

(https://b.cdnbrm.com/images/products/rell/headers/jba_headers_engine_6625sjt_eng.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on August 04, 2018, 05:58:39 PM
Insulating cabin heat = more efficient HVAC = free HP

Paint on the Kia is pretty good; hopefully won't need to do too much to prep.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 04, 2018, 06:44:54 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on August 04, 2018, 05:58:39 PM
Insulating cabin heat = more efficient HVAC = free HP

Paint on the Kia is pretty good; hopefully won't need to do too much to prep.

Clay bar and rubbing alcohol. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 09, 2018, 02:15:21 PM
Less than 10k miles on dis Equinox.  Even new cars will shine up nice.  Frackin' winters are harsh, man.  "Before" pics are inside 'cause I forgot to take them outside and wasn't gonna bother pulling it back out. lol

These new Equinoxes are pretty nice.  Didn't drive it, but the interior seemed decent, materials were good as far as feel and clean-ability goes.

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38814912_10156394528717211_1437472777413066752_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=c2efdb96b3af3c643fad701ae7a74054&oe=5C03110E)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38935455_10156394528787211_7500382057080553472_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=ee51a142d50fb94bcb857d0947c8a4cd&oe=5C08904A)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38791632_10156394528957211_9213121504697384960_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=6f5924412b1126fd355f5fe29554df92&oe=5C0F7D3B)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38896361_10156394529202211_651283673919782912_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=5238f797655bbf6400cd4a5f0edda8ae&oe=5BC5CEAC)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38782969_10156394529397211_1166789198091386880_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=f5babb478de094c57f1cd68c2bcd5908&oe=5BF89FB2)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38783129_10156394529622211_2410152436095254528_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=ddef63945d41faa82e510ec6d084fb34&oe=5C0E12F6)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38842032_10156394529697211_8307789372757901312_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=fc1a1c2332ae23fd1635242a8119a4da&oe=5C0DD2C6)





Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on August 09, 2018, 02:31:53 PM
I saw one of those yesterday. Seems like a nice ride.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 09, 2018, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on August 09, 2018, 02:31:53 PM
I saw one of those yesterday. Seems like a nice ride.

Sure are better looking than the first gens...those had a pretty heavy Aztek vibe to them. haha.  Second gens were definitely an improvement, but I think they've nailed it with this latest gen.  We shall see how they age.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 10, 2018, 02:09:03 PM
red white and blue. lol

(https://i.imgur.com/UE4cf1z.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 10, 2018, 02:11:38 PM
Detailed that Tacoma.  Haven't actually been inside a newer one.  Pretty nice, but I still prefer mine. :devil:

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38821312_10156396777292211_8308766052615979008_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=8647c83acb3743cb82978551defd9641&oe=5C141BF0)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38801601_10156396777607211_7574029759680610304_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1536f96a07b5da80604cf8ea3e3cc114&oe=5C0E1B97)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38838050_10156396777747211_8503755519154978816_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=bee3db164bd902afc8b3961c2e956934&oe=5C0198D7)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38709919_10156396777852211_1834523056316350464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=7630ae8420e30a2ce312a691d3932e1b&oe=5C050B69)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38861794_10156396778027211_5773540492369199104_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=43f7ec758678e59be3ad62f849b5f2f9&oe=5BF92B65)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38857313_10156396779017211_4751001391571402752_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=5e4860d2af734e042976c982b2ea2164&oe=5C0F527A)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38936134_10156396779172211_5819093667129851904_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=2dcc177c6cdc862eb32eb2171f866a20&oe=5BCCA7B9)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on August 10, 2018, 06:35:00 PM
Some interesting gadgetry here. I like the lightbar (https://store.detailking.com/interior-auto-detailing-light-bar) they hang up so they can see what they're doing.

https://youtu.be/BI1H0L8LQEw (https://youtu.be/BI1H0L8LQEw)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on August 10, 2018, 06:49:35 PM
^^ and I like the hint on using a Mr Clean Magic Eraser to remove the kick scuffs from the doors. (went very gently & it works)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 10, 2018, 07:10:19 PM
That's very satisfying.  Very difficult to find a vehicle that is that dirty whose paint isn't also completely fucked, though, as far as fade and clear coat peel goes.  Gotta be a barn find with minimal sun exposure.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on August 11, 2018, 07:20:28 AM
White, Red, and blue*
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on August 11, 2018, 08:21:44 AM
Quote from: MrH on August 11, 2018, 07:20:28 AM
White, Red, and blue*

Lol I've been holding my tongue on that
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 11, 2018, 11:07:37 AM
Yeah yeah.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 68_427 on August 13, 2018, 07:17:09 PM
Quote from: 93JC on July 30, 2018, 08:26:16 PM
They do a good job punching through other cars' crumple zones too. Unsafe as hell; no roadworthy car should have one.

Yup a couple years ago a Jeep with one t boned a car, and the stinger went right through the window and crushed the teenage girl's skull.  They're illegal in NY but it's not enforced.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 16, 2018, 07:36:33 PM
Was hearse day again today.

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39400750_10156410994472211_1985702555061059584_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=b4b15c1ca3ddae694c091e900b3c34fc&oe=5C04B638)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39442730_10156410994567211_238998342858702848_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=b421b31188f1cf75adca0ef1a62ff6ea&oe=5BF529E6)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39306159_10156410480882211_4522554782631591936_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=4f1029d6640e070ec7976e26925ef3a1&oe=5C12ECDC)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39409120_10156410481007211_5401938268356870144_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e92dacd557445c77604872fb66a1f300&oe=5C0CE851)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39300670_10156410481107211_1812617155443687424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=027999fd61579e0f57e535bda0faa78e&oe=5C05877C)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37488537_10156410481662211_3521224818751963136_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=c872bb1491cb7172bdd5502d56bea0d4&oe=5BF9C089)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39270470_10156410481747211_1648111193518243840_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1b9c9d4b5c42ae619a2d781f3bb420a7&oe=5BF47374)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39400708_10156410481822211_4187788118000140288_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=b9827f471e2415ca0eb8d67cf77984fd&oe=5BF686FA)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39253554_10156410481947211_6766056290004238336_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=3b45078e3633ad8890d6e1bb5f72e251&oe=5C1410DA)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 17, 2018, 04:32:29 AM
OMG IT'S NOT A CENTER COUNCIL, IT'S A CONSOLE.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 93JC on August 17, 2018, 06:39:07 AM
Maybe it's a euphemism.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 24, 2018, 03:35:32 PM
Some of the latest whips.

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40092269_10156427306932211_4502819175978237952_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=ba5911acd4a14fdedf8bf4fae65d17ad&oe=5C071CB2)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39752075_10156420511252211_7009897169834475520_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=182b11a44a2114279685ec7f6657cca5&oe=5BFED518)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39521886_10156413024117211_6091719181554679808_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=0d0761e4203e3df34873a1df8a8609b8&oe=5BF07332)

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These wheels were a biiiitch.  Spent about 45 minutes just on wheels/tires/wheelwells on this baby. 

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on August 24, 2018, 04:01:03 PM
An Aspen!

My friends have one. What a weird vehicle.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 24, 2018, 04:10:11 PM
Quote from: MrH on August 24, 2018, 04:01:03 PM
An Aspen!

My friends have one. What a weird vehicle.

Agreed. I kinda wanted to hate it just cause it's a Chrysler, but it's realy not too bad.  Laid out well, as far as interior goes.  Easy to clean, even with the mess of 3 kids, and the color is nice.

Compared to a fuckin Traverse and those horrrrrrrible rear seat rails...much better for kids.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 24, 2018, 04:12:52 PM
Had a Georgia plate. As soon as the husband spoke I was like ahhh, you're the one from Georgia. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 31, 2018, 09:44:06 AM
Hoping Kota approves of my work today.

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on September 02, 2018, 03:39:31 PM
I spent the day cleaning & waxing the seven-month-old CR-V. I don't think it had anything in the way of wax protection when it left the factory. Guessing the dealers just peel off the Tyvek and wipe them down for delivery to happy buyers
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 02, 2018, 03:45:57 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on September 02, 2018, 03:39:31 PM
I spent the day cleaning & waxing the seven-month-old CR-V. I don't think it had anything in the way of wax protection when it left the factory. Guessing the dealers just peel off the Tyvek and wipe them down for delivery to happy buyers

Pretty much. Unless you spend the $600 for the Super Ultimate Miracle Paint and Interior Protection Package, which they can somehow magically apply within an hour while you're signing paper work.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on September 03, 2018, 05:22:17 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 02, 2018, 03:45:57 PM
Pretty much. Unless you spend the $600 for the Super Ultimate Miracle Paint and Interior Protection Package, which they can somehow magically apply within an hour while you're signing paper work.
Yup - I'd assumed the factory gave it a protective layer of wax or something but, reading around, it's just naked clearcoat.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 03, 2018, 11:36:53 AM
Glad you got 'er done. :cheers:

IME, fresh paint/clear will bead water, but only because it has been buffed/polished to remove defects.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: HurricaneSteve on September 07, 2018, 01:47:43 PM
'Ey, quick question. On black cars, what kind of cloth material do you use to wash it? A Miata forum member said that he used only terry cloth towels because microfiber can trap tiny particles that can in turn mar the surface and his mid 90's Miata still looks pristine. Yet just about everyone else recommends microfiber rags or mitts. Your thoughts?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 07, 2018, 03:04:00 PM
Either is fine.  Just make sure it's a high-pile (ie, thick, plush, deep fibers) cloth which allows the dirt to get sucked up into it rather than being dragged around on the paint.  Rinse the cloth frequently/thoroughly during your wash to avoid buildup of dirt that can cause swirls.  Work top to bottom, as the top of your car is generally cleaner than the lower portions that are near the road getting sprayed with junk.  A grit guard is very good to have.

Keeping black paint pristine is more involved than just making sure your wash process is good and clean.  Diligent polishing/waxing is also key to keeping black paint looking good for years.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on October 09, 2018, 03:54:43 PM
I bought a foam cannon today for my pressure washer. Now I need to learn how to use it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 10, 2018, 09:34:36 AM
I love those lists of shitty detailing "hacks." 

Removing bugs from the front bumper and grill of your car can be tough. Some savvy car owners have found that using a cooking spray like Pam helps them wipe off easier. Others swear that applying a good coating of cooking spray or car wax before taking off on a bug-filled journey will also help.

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:facepalm:

And how they also mention using - gasp - car wax to prevent bug buildup in the same sentence as suggesting Pam. :wtf:

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 29, 2018, 04:04:33 PM
Brap braaaaaap.

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on October 30, 2018, 06:14:29 PM
Aztec's quarter panel is basically rusted through, and he's getting it detailed?

I mean, its already the ugliest car in the world, you could poke a hole through the outside with a kielbasa, and he's paying you to detail it?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 30, 2018, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 30, 2018, 06:14:29 PM
Aztec's quarter panel is basically rusted through, and he's getting it detailed?

I mean, its already the ugliest car in the world, you could poke a hole through the outside with a kielbasa, and he's paying you to detail it?

Yep!  They were mostly concerned about the fairly-neglected interior as they are looking to sell it.  But yeah, that fender was bad. Open the rear door and it's reallllly bad...pretty much the whole thing is gone.

I've seen worse as far as interiors go, but this one was...up there. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 06, 2018, 03:56:32 PM
I wish FB didn't compress pictures quite so much.  These look great on a phone-size screen, but not so much on a real screen.  In-shop pictures don't seem to turn out quite as well as the outdoor ones, just not enough natural light, or enough light period.  I even took them with my phone on a tripod to help...didn't help much. :lol:

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on November 06, 2018, 05:24:54 PM
I'd guess that the background reflecting off of the car makes a pretty big difference - blue skies and green trees look better than toolboxes and random detailing supplies. Could you put up some sheets or something so that you're working with a solid background?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 06, 2018, 10:51:33 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on November 06, 2018, 05:24:54 PM
I'd guess that the background reflecting off of the car makes a pretty big difference - blue skies and green trees look better than toolboxes and random detailing supplies. Could you put up some sheets or something so that you're working with a solid background?

My plan is to put white metal corrugated siding type stuff on the walls.  Insulating when I bought the place was priority #1.   With that will come a cleaner shop and a cleaner look.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 09, 2018, 03:24:47 PM
White is fun.  As satisfying as black paint, honestly.  Getting that orangey, road film junk off is nice.

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Yeah...those are drilled/slotted rotors on a Silverado... :lol:
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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on November 12, 2018, 02:28:15 PM
My new place has a spigot in the garage, so I can wash the cars indoors all winter long.  I decided to try my hand at it:

(https://i.imgur.com/aGEe4Ob.jpg)

The lighting in the garage, unfortunately, isn't spectacular.  I have a single 150w equivalent LED bulb in the door motor, but the two overhead lights are proprietary LED 'discs', and I don't know where to look for brighter ones.  The low light makes it hard to take photos and even harder to actually clean the car, as you really can't see dirt, dust, etc.  So, I'm going to buy one of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N7C73DX/ref=twister_B06WRRRFLQ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
for the door motor, and one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Halogen-Equivalent-Waterproof-Outdoor-Floodlight/dp/B01KFVFQEI/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1541405687&sr=8-14&keywords=led+flood+lighting
to aim towards the ceiling for additional indirect light.  That should give me enough lumens to properly see the metal as well as the interior for when I vacuum, clean, etc.

Which leads me to a few questions.  For starters, how do I go about removing dirt without swirl marks?  I try and wash as much dirt off with the hose, but no matter how much I spray, some still remains.  I take the cloth and gently 'dab' the dirt but only so much comes off.  Also, when I'm done with the car, I don't know how to dry it.  I have a leaf blower but that seems to leave water streaks, and I'm hesitant to use even a clean chamois to dry for the same reasons as I am to use them to wash the car.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 12, 2018, 02:45:10 PM
You're not going to get all the dirt off unless you get some soap and water and a wash mitt going.  That's like stepping in the shower and expecting to be crystal clean without shampooing your hair or washing your armpits with soap. ;)

Being gentle is how you do it without swirls, but it's inevitable that you're going to get some minor swirls over time.  Luckily for you, white paint doesn't show swirls all that much.  For drying, if your paint is clean (washed with soap and water) you don't have to worry much about swirls if you're using a towel to dry.  I'm more of a microfiber or squeegee guy when it comes to drying...chamois have never impressed me.  I will also use my ShopVac in blower mode to blow out nooks and crannies, like the side mirrors, wheels, roof rails, etc., so that you don't have a bunch of water sitting in there waiting to leave spots once you start driving the vehicle again.

Wash one section at a time, top to bottom.  This minimizes the amount of dirt you're working with.  The top portions of your car are always going to be cleaner than the lower parts where all of the road spray and gunk builds up.

This is a good video for the basics without any fluff and without being half a fricken hour long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRaMz5z2rHI
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on November 12, 2018, 02:48:54 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 12, 2018, 02:45:10 PM
You're not going to get all the dirt off unless you get some soap and water and a wash mitt going.  That's like stepping in the shower and expecting to be crystal clean without shampooing your hair or washing your armpits with soap. ;)

Being gentle is how you do it without swirls, but it's inevitable that you're going to get some minor swirls over time.  Luckily for you, white paint doesn't show swirls all that much.  For drying, if your paint is clean (washed with soap and water) you don't have to worry much about swirls if you're using a towel to dry.  I'm more of a microfiber or squeegee guy when it comes to drying...chamois have never impressed me.  I will also use my ShopVac in blower mode to blow out nooks and crannies, like the side mirrors, wheels, roof rails, etc., so that you don't have a bunch of water sitting in there waiting to leave spots once you start driving the vehicle again.

Wash one section at a time, top to bottom.  This minimizes the amount of dirt you're working with.  The top portions of your car are always going to be cleaner than the lower parts where all of the road spray and gunk builds up.

This is a good video for the basics without any fluff and without being half a fricken hour long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRaMz5z2rHI

That's actually a loaner car.  My ML is black, and it really needs a paint correction (the former owner only had it for 15k or so miles but it seems as if they used Brillo to wash it). 

Also, I meant to say microfiber, not chamois.  I use some Kirkland microfiber towels. 

Thanks for the video and advice.

Oh, and what should I use for caked on tar/bugs?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 12, 2018, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Submariner on November 12, 2018, 02:48:54 PM
That's actually a loaner car.  My ML is black, and it really needs a paint correction (the former owner only had it for 15k or so miles but it seems as if they used Brillo to wash it). 

Also, I meant to say microfiber, not chamois.  I use some Kirkland microfiber towels. 

Thanks for the video and advice.

Oh, and what should I use for caked on tar/bugs?

I scrape tar and bugs off with a good finger nail, one at a time.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 12, 2018, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: Submariner on November 12, 2018, 02:48:54 PM
That's actually a loaner car.  My ML is black, and it really needs a paint correction (the former owner only had it for 15k or so miles but it seems as if they used Brillo to wash it). 

Also, I meant to say microfiber, not chamois.  I use some Kirkland microfiber towels. 

Thanks for the video and advice.

Oh, and what should I use for caked on tar/bugs?

Ah, black.  Well, if it already seems to need correction, you're not likely to make it any worse with hand washing.  But with black, that's just the name of the game.  If you do have it professionally corrected to a clean slate, then you'll get really good at gentle hand washing. :lol:  Also, a coat of wax a couple/few times a year works great to keep swirls close to invisible (at least on a freshly corrected finish).  When I had A4, I would wax frequently, and only did actual powered polishing a couple times over the 4-5 years I owned it because I kept it in check by being very nice to it via being gentle when washing and keeping 'er waxed.

For tar and bugs and junk, I use degreaser.  There're all kinds of products and junk out there on the shelves "designed" for tar and bugs, but I've found that degreaser is the way to go, and it's much cheaper when you can buy a gallon for $10 and put a few ounces at a time into a spray bottle.  Also great as a tire and wheelwell cleaner.  If something is really stubborn, or you have tree sap or something, rubbing alcohol works really, really well.  I get the high-test 91% stuff and put it into spray bottles.  Also works great for windows and removing badges or sticker residue from any surface.  GooGone leaves a mess behind, rubbing alcohol simply evaporates away.

(https://images.zep.com/zepcommercial/Industrial-Purple-Cleaner-and-Degreaser-ZU0856128.png)



Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on November 12, 2018, 03:20:06 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 12, 2018, 03:10:22 PM
Ah, black.  Well, if it already seems to need correction, you're not likely to make it any worse with hand washing.  But with black, that's just the name of the game.  If you do have it professionally corrected to a clean slate, then you'll get really good at gentle hand washing. :lol:  Also, a coat of wax a couple/few times a year works great to keep swirls close to invisible (at least on a freshly corrected finish).  When I had A4, I would wax frequently, and only did actual powered polishing a couple times over the 4-5 years I owned it because I kept it in check by being very nice to it via being gentle when washing and keeping 'er waxed.

For tar and bugs and junk, I use degreaser.  There're all kinds of products and junk out there on the shelves "designed" for tar and bugs, but I've found that degreaser is the way to go, and it's much cheaper when you can buy a gallon for $10 and put a few ounces at a time into a spray bottle.  Also great as a tire and wheelwell cleaner.  If something is really stubborn, or you have tree sap or something, rubbing alcohol works really, really well.  I get the high-test 91% stuff and put it into spray bottles.  Also works great for windows and removing badges or sticker residue from any surface.  GooGone leaves a mess behind, rubbing alcohol simply evaporates away.

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Silly me.  I never thought to use running alcohol.

Thanks!!!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 14, 2018, 02:33:34 PM
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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on November 14, 2018, 02:44:03 PM
A clean black Suburban in the snow looks boss.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on November 14, 2018, 02:46:06 PM
Too bad it'll only be clean for about 100 ft. :lol:

Also, that Tahoe hides dirt very well.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 14, 2018, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on November 14, 2018, 02:46:06 PM
Too bad it'll only be clean for about 100 ft. :lol:

Also, that Tahoe hides dirt very well.

Yeah, luckily the road I took was dry when I drove it back to the customer so it still looked shiny and stuff when she got to see it, just a bit of dirty snow on the tires.  But she drives on the highway to get home...so...yeah, didn't last long. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 14, 2018, 02:55:14 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 14, 2018, 02:44:03 PM
A clean black Suburban in the snow looks boss.

That was the first 'after' picture I've taken outside (edit: since it started getting cold and shit)...it just looked too damn good on the snow.  So now I'm going to make that a habit.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on November 15, 2018, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 14, 2018, 02:55:14 PM
That was the first 'after' picture I've taken outside (edit: since it started getting cold and shit)...it just looked too damn good on the snow.  So now I'm going to make that a habit.

:ohyeah:

Looks much better than the reflection of insulation and detailing supplies. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 15, 2018, 03:45:30 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on November 15, 2018, 03:40:21 PM
:ohyeah:

Looks much better than the reflection of insulation and detailing supplies. :lol:

God forbid there be detailing supplies in a detailing shop.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 15, 2018, 03:51:33 PM
too dark outside for outdoor picz today.

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I'm getting pretty good at getting the before/after pictures to line up very closely.  Using the tripod helps a lot.  I've taken hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pictures of cars and am pretty good at getting similar angles freehand, but the tripod helps that much more.  I never bother to go back and look at the 'before' pictures.  I know what angles I do.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 16, 2018, 05:34:20 PM
Got me a Challenger this evening.  ~5k miles on 'er.  AWD V6, the lady DDs it.

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Also did an Enclave today.

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on November 16, 2018, 05:35:52 PM
My 5th grade teacher bought a Mustang in that same color. I think it's cool to see middle aged women DDing pony cars
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 16, 2018, 07:17:12 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 16, 2018, 05:35:52 PM
My 5th grade teacher bought a Mustang in that same color. I think it's cool to see middle aged women DDing pony cars

Agreed. She had a Ford Edge before this, so quite the jump. I didn't realize it was her DD 'til I went inside and chatted with her and her husband when I picked it up. I thought they were just wanting it cleaned up before storage!

Hadn't driven one before. Only drove it a couple miles across town and back, but it's a nice ride.  Visibility is obviously a slight issue and it certainly has an amount of coffin/bathub feel to it, but I still felt confident about its physical boundaries. It's kind of cool looking out over that long hood. Didn't really open 'er up since I was driving it cold and it's not my car, but there's certainly some power there.  Drives nicely, as this platform does (assuming it's the same platform as the Charger and such).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 16, 2018, 08:14:04 PM
Soapbox

I like when people respond positively to what I do.  94% of my customers seem genuinely impressed/satisfied, and that really makes it worth it.  Money is one thing, but it's icing on the cake when somebody is enthused with the work I've done. I put a lot of time and effort into the job and never half-ass anything no matter how nasty (or not) a vehicle is when it's placed in my hands, so it's very rewarding to feel appreciated, and I appreciate when people can comprehend the scale of what I've done.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on November 17, 2018, 05:12:59 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 16, 2018, 08:14:04 PM
Soapbox

I like when people respond positively to what I do.  94% of my customers seem genuinely impressed/satisfied, and that really makes it worth it.  Money is one thing, but it's icing on the cake when somebody is enthused with the work I've done. I put a lot of time and effort into the job and never half-ass anything no matter how nasty (or not) a vehicle is when it's placed in my hands, so it's very rewarding to feel appreciated, and I appreciate when people can comprehend the scale of what I've done.
That's a huge part of work. Being good at what you do. Having a realistic understanding that you are good at what you do. Knowing the value of what you do. And getting appreciated for it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on November 17, 2018, 05:36:33 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 15, 2018, 03:51:33 PM
too dark outside for outdoor picz today.
I'm getting pretty good at getting the before/after pictures to line up very closely.  Using the tripod helps a lot.  I've taken hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pictures of cars and am pretty good at getting similar angles freehand, but the tripod helps that much more.  I never bother to go back and look at the 'before' pictures.  I know what angles I do.
What camera do you use? Since you're shooting against a light background it might be trying to expose for that rather than the cars. So maybe bump up the exposure a tad to compensate.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on December 27, 2018, 03:20:11 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on November 17, 2018, 05:36:33 PM
What camera do you use? Since you're shooting against a light background it might be trying to expose for that rather than the cars. So maybe bump up the exposure a tad to compensate.

Just my phone camera, Galaxy S5 Active.  The camera is pretty damn good for an "old" phone.  But yeah, that might be a good idear.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on December 27, 2018, 03:23:36 PM
recent projex

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Might be the first Kia I've ever done, or at least that I can remember doing.  Neat little vehicle, but it was quite a mess as the owners are dog breeders, but she was plenty pleased with the results.

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on December 27, 2018, 03:29:44 PM
Been trying to come up with ways to drum up some business in this slow winter period.  People often remark "you'd think people would want their vehicles detailed more in the winter than the summer," but it's the complete opposite, as the moment you get back on the road, your vehicle (at least the exterior) is immediately dirty again, so most people just don't care.  Whereas in the summer, your vehicle can look fairly pristine for a solid week after a good washin' and waxin' if the weather cooperates.

So, I've been thinking about getting people in the door for interior detailings.  Was thinking of offering a free wash with purchase of an interior detailing.  I wouldn't go quite as all-out with the wash as I typically do for vehicles I'm prepping for a good waxin' (skip the claybar mitt, skip the wheelwells), but it would still be a helluva lot better than the wash any automatic carwash can provide.  Would cost me 30-45 minutes of my time, depending on the vehicle.  Fairly small beans, as I don't really get paid "by the hour" in a traditional sense.  My time is, of course, valuable, but cash flow is also critical. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on December 27, 2018, 03:37:49 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 27, 2018, 03:29:44 PM
Been trying to come up with ways to drum up some business in this slow winter period.  People often remark "you'd think people would want their vehicles detailed more in the winter than the summer," but it's the complete opposite, as the moment you get back on the road, your vehicle (at least the exterior) is immediately dirty again, so most people just don't care.  Whereas in the summer, your vehicle can look fairly pristine for a solid week after a good washin' and waxin' if the weather cooperates.

So, I've been thinking about getting people in the door for interior detailings.  Was thinking of offering a free wash with purchase of an interior detailing.  I wouldn't go quite as all-out with the wash as I typically do for vehicles I'm prepping for a good waxin' (skip the claybar mitt, skip the wheelwells), but it would still be a helluva lot better than the wash any automatic carwash can provide.  Would cost me 30-45 minutes of my time, depending on the vehicle.  Fairly small beans, as I don't really get paid "by the hour" in a traditional sense.  My time is, of course, valuable, but cash flow is also critical. :lol:

For salty weather, a pressure washer (on a lower power setting) combined with a soap attachment offers about 70% of the clean at one 1/10th the time penalty.  If the salt and dirt is really caked on, I just end up dabbing the areas with a wet microfiber towel.  Sometimes, as you point out, it's just not worth spending the time to get a 100% perfect clean when it takes three hours to do.

I think you're onto something when you talk about interior specials.  Mats and rugs get soaked this time of year, and the salt and grime makes it so much worse than the summer months.  Just taking out the mats and scrubbing them makes such a huge difference in the appearance of the interior.  A good vacuum and spot clean (or full shampoo) of the carpets is seemingly always necessary.  Grime and dirt seems to build up much more quickly from November to March than from April to October.  Most people are either unwilling (or strangely intimidated) to simply wipe down their seats and dashboard with a damp towel, even though such an easy cleaning is desperately needed.

I'd pursue that idea if I were you.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Speed_Racer on December 27, 2018, 04:18:25 PM
What about some corrosion prevention options? Focusing on a wash that cleans salt from the underbody, or doing Fluid Film applications?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on December 27, 2018, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: Submariner on December 27, 2018, 03:37:49 PM
For salty weather, a pressure washer (on a lower power setting) combined with a soap attachment offers about 70% of the clean at one 1/10th the time penalty.  If the salt and dirt is really caked on, I just end up dabbing the areas with a wet microfiber towel.

Dabbing areas with a microfiber...you're adorable.  :lol:

You've clearly no idea the condition of roads here in the winter.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on December 27, 2018, 08:54:59 PM
Pressure washing Does Not remove salt.  Nor does "dabbing."  You're out of your goddamn mind.  That's like jumping into a mud puddle and assuming that "dabbing" yourself with a cloth will make you clean.  Come on, man. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on December 29, 2018, 03:04:18 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 27, 2018, 08:54:59 PM
Pressure washing Does Not remove salt.  Nor does "dabbing."  You're out of your goddamn mind.  That's like jumping into a mud puddle and assuming that "dabbing" yourself with a cloth will make you clean.  Come on, man. 

Pressure washing seems to do a decent job of it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on December 29, 2018, 03:30:26 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 27, 2018, 08:54:59 PM
Pressure washing Does Not remove salt.  Nor does "dabbing."  You're out of your goddamn mind.  That's like jumping into a mud puddle and assuming that "dabbing" yourself with a cloth will make you clean.  Come on, man. 
What's a good way of getting rid of salt?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on December 29, 2018, 05:56:20 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 29, 2018, 03:30:26 PM
What's a good way of getting rid of salt?

Lick it
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on December 29, 2018, 06:35:59 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 29, 2018, 05:56:20 PM
Lick it
Maybe I should get a cow.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on December 29, 2018, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 29, 2018, 03:04:18 PM
Pressure washing seems to do a decent job of it.

Decent, sure, but you're still gonna be left with a film of road gunk (including salt).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on December 29, 2018, 07:42:05 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 29, 2018, 03:30:26 PM
What's a good way of getting rid of salt?

Wash your car like a normal person...with a couple of soapy buckets and a brush or wash mitt.  Touchless simply doesn't come close to an actual contact washing. 

You can hop in the shower and rinse off...but are you as clean as you would be if you also used soap and a loofa to scrub yourself?  Of course not. It's the same with your car. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on December 30, 2018, 08:14:08 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 29, 2018, 07:42:05 PM
Wash your car like a normal person...with a couple of soapy buckets and a brush or wash mitt.  Touchless simply doesn't come close to an actual contact washing. 

You can hop in the shower and rinse off...but are you as clean as you would be if you also used soap and a loofa to scrub yourself?  Of course not. It's the same with your car. 
How about car washes with their big rotating brushes, do they do the job or do they miss areas?  I'd be concerned about salt, etc. underneath the vehicle.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on December 30, 2018, 11:38:09 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 30, 2018, 08:14:08 AM
How about car washes with their big rotating brushes, do they do the job or do they miss areas?  I'd be concerned about salt, etc. underneath the vehicle.
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 30, 2018, 08:14:08 AM
How about car washes with their big rotating brushes, do they do the job or do they miss areas?  I'd be concerned about salt, etc. underneath the vehicle.

Brush car washes will do a far better job than touchless.  However, some people shy away from them because of the possibility that the brushes are dirty and might scratch the paint.  I would never have gone through a brushed car wash with my A4 and its perfect black paint, but with my Taco that has some swirls and scratches already...no problem.  Once or twice each winter I feel lazy and hit the local brushed car wash...it does a great job, IMO.  better than touchless because it actually removes the road film.

If you want an underbody flush, I'd recommend a DIY car wash and pressure washing it underneath yourself so that you can get all the nooks and crannies better than the robot sprayer will.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: shp4man on December 30, 2018, 08:28:07 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 29, 2018, 03:30:26 PM
What's a good way of getting rid of salt?

Move to Arizona.. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on February 27, 2019, 03:47:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/X3FjGfI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oylGTdB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8Bt82vU.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 07, 2019, 02:52:19 PM
Lots of truth here.  Some people think ceramics are the end-all be-all of coatings, but they simply don't last as long as they're hyped to, especially in harsh environments, such as wintry places where salt/chemicals and sand are a constant for a good chunk of the year.

For instance, I just detailed a truck today for a (great) customer of mine.  Back in the fall, he asked if I'd apply this ceramic coating (HydroSilex) that he'd picked up.  I said absolutely.  4-5 months later, just as with any wax or sealant I've used in my years detailing, the upper portions of the vehicle were still beading water nicely, but the lower portions that are most exposed to road spray are once again bare clear coat (ie, no water beading).  And this guy is very pro-active about keeping his truck clean.

My dad's truck, same thing.  He picked up a bottle of that TopCoat F11 stuff.  Same story.  Deteriorates just like any other coating.

Multiple coats probably help, but that goes for virtually any wax/sealant/coating.  I'm almost hesitant to start offering ceramic coatings because people have these grandiose expectations, and then I'll be the bad guy when I have to show them videos like this when they complain that their coating didn't last long enough.  Or, at the least, I'll have to explain these types of things to them beforehand so that they understand and can decide whether or not the cost of a ceramic is truly worth it to them.

For a second/third vehicle, I'd say they are better than wax as they'll more than likely last longer on a fair-weather vehicle.  For a DD, though, there isn't anything out there that can get through a midwest winter without deteriorating, especially without proper maintenance.  Like frequent and proper washing, with a recharge to boot.  It's not as simple as "well, the coating is on, so I'm good for a straight year."

https://youtu.be/aGXMeY-jsUw

Anyways, ceramic rant over.  Great products, just not always what people think/expect from the marketing.  But the marketing is certainly why they've exploded in popularity over the last ~5 years. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 07, 2019, 03:02:46 PM
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White paint + Winter = Rail Dust ...those little orange specks and, especially on white vehicles, that orange-y tinge of road film that builds up.
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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on March 08, 2019, 06:50:50 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 07, 2019, 02:52:19 PM
Lots of truth here.  Some people think ceramics are the end-all be-all of coatings, but they simply don't last as long as they're hyped to, especially in harsh environments, such as wintry places where salt/chemicals and sand are a constant for a good chunk of the year.

For instance, I just detailed a truck today for a (great) customer of mine.  Back in the fall, he asked if I'd apply this ceramic coating (HydroSilex) that he'd picked up.  I said absolutely.  4-5 months later, just as with any wax or sealant I've used in my years detailing, the upper portions of the vehicle were still beading water nicely, but the lower portions that are most exposed to road spray are once again bare clear coat (ie, no water beading).  And this guy is very pro-active about keeping his truck clean.

My dad's truck, same thing.  He picked up a bottle of that TopCoat F11 stuff.  Same story.  Deteriorates just like any other coating.

Multiple coats probably help, but that goes for virtually any wax/sealant/coating.  I'm almost hesitant to start offering ceramic coatings because people have these grandiose expectations, and then I'll be the bad guy when I have to show them videos like this when they complain that their coating didn't last long enough.  Or, at the least, I'll have to explain these types of things to them beforehand so that they understand and can decide whether or not the cost of a ceramic is truly worth it to them.

For a second/third vehicle, I'd say they are better than wax as they'll more than likely last longer on a fair-weather vehicle.  For a DD, though, there isn't anything out there that can get through a midwest winter without deteriorating, especially without proper maintenance.  Like frequent and proper washing, with a recharge to boot.  It's not as simple as "well, the coating is on, so I'm good for a straight year."

https://youtu.be/aGXMeY-jsUw

Anyways, ceramic rant over.  Great products, just not always what people think/expect from the marketing.  But the marketing is certainly why they've exploded in popularity over the last ~5 years. 

Just as business advice, the guys who are honest about the products they sell are the ones that get long term business. The Billy Mays type breathless oversellers get good sales for a time, but repeat business drops off quickly as they squander their trust.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on March 08, 2019, 07:54:49 AM
I got ceramic coatings on two cars, and yeah, I agree, it's a lot of hype.

Honestly, I think my BRZ that I detailed and waxed with just conventional products looked way better than anything 6 months after I had professionally done.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 08, 2019, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 08, 2019, 06:50:50 AM
Just as business advice, the guys who are honest about the products they sell are the ones that get long term business. The Billy Mays type breathless oversellers get good sales for a time, but repeat business drops off quickly as they squander their trust.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinkin. Accepting the hype and not telling people the brutal truth is a recipe for disaster. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 08, 2019, 04:42:14 PM
Quote from: MrH on March 08, 2019, 07:54:49 AM
I got ceramic coatings on two cars, and yeah, I agree, it's a lot of hype.

Honestly, I think my BRZ that I detailed and waxed with just conventional products looked way better than anything 6 months after I had professionally done.

I don't doubt it.  Ceramic isn't really worth it outside of show cars. And even then, a traditional wax is nearly preferable unless you're going strictly for durability.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 08, 2019, 05:00:11 PM
The best thing for paint maintenance is frequent/proper washing and the occasional coating. Vehicles already have clear coat...a wax or sealant isn't going to somehow be magically better.  A lot of people don't understand that.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: shp4man on March 08, 2019, 08:02:20 PM
My kids gave me one of those gift packs of car care stuff about 3 years ago. Part of it was a clear synthetic wax, Figured WTF, waxed the Focus with it last summer- a white car- it still beads water and tree sap and crap doesn't stick. I guess it was worth the trouble.

Edit: It's Turtle Wax Ice.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 25, 2019, 04:28:55 PM
Quote from: shp4man on March 08, 2019, 08:02:20 PM
My kids gave me one of those gift packs of car care stuff about 3 years ago. Part of it was a clear synthetic wax, Figured WTF, waxed the Focus with it last summer- a white car- it still beads water and tree sap and crap doesn't stick. I guess it was worth the trouble.

Edit: It's Turtle Wax Ice.

Hell yeah. Must be nice living somewhere where the roads don't eat your wax away in a matter of weeks. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 01, 2019, 03:24:06 PM
lawl April Foolz!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 01, 2019, 04:17:45 PM
Nice
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 01, 2019, 05:10:42 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 01, 2019, 03:24:06 PM
lawl April Foolz!

Noice.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 01, 2019, 05:42:44 PM
Thankfully nobody took it seriously (yet). :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 11, 2019, 04:50:44 PM
I don't use the pressure washer all that often, but I broke it out to get the mud off this guy today.

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on April 12, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
Those wheels are tragic.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 12, 2019, 01:09:19 PM
Detailed his wife's Tahoe today...same wheels. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: r0tor on April 12, 2019, 01:13:36 PM
I've been using the Megiuars hybrid ceramic crap on the alfa... Couple sprites after a car wash and it seems to work nicely.

Almost too easy
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 12, 2019, 02:07:28 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 12, 2019, 01:09:19 PM
Detailed his wife's Tahoe today...same wheels. :lol:

They must have been on sale :mask:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 12, 2019, 02:08:06 PM
Quote from: r0tor on April 12, 2019, 01:13:36 PM
I've been using the Megiuars hybrid ceramic crap on the alfa... Couple sprites after a car wash and it seems to work nicely.

Almost too easy

Why not 7-Up? Are you racist against red spots?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: r0tor on April 12, 2019, 03:46:24 PM
Damn my sprite spritzes
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 12, 2019, 04:28:11 PM
Here's dat Tahoe with da wheels.  Fit much better on it.

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 12, 2019, 04:29:15 PM
Quote from: r0tor on April 12, 2019, 01:13:36 PM
I've been using the Megiuars hybrid ceramic crap on the alfa... Couple sprites after a car wash and it seems to work nicely.

Almost too easy

Yes!  Any spray detailer/wax/whatever does make life easy.  And if you're washing fairly frequently (once or twice a month) and using the stuff every time, it's all the protection you need.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on April 13, 2019, 12:00:59 AM
It's the black part that makes them look dumb, IMO. They look OK covered in mud because the black part is covered up. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 15, 2019, 01:19:46 PM
r4pt0r. ~18k milez.

(https://i.imgur.com/Fkua3lK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6Eeby28.jpg)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on April 15, 2019, 01:40:59 PM
^Beauty :ohyeah:.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 15, 2019, 01:43:23 PM
The guy was very very happy.  He took it to a different detailing shop previously and was not happy at all (wouldn't be the first time I've heard horror stories of that place), so he was happy to pay about the same money for a much better result.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 15, 2019, 01:46:26 PM
I don't know that I've seen that color red on a Raptor. Nice
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 16, 2019, 01:44:57 PM
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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on April 16, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
^That looks...not bad.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 19, 2019, 08:32:30 AM
Got to do this lil guy yesterday. Fun car. Picked it up from the customer, so I got to drive it (albeit, just across town).  But hey, I'm excited any time I step into something with a stickshift.  She calls him Bart.

(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/57485344_10156975511157211_3287084071020134400_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=fc086c9e98e68a2adb0d28cf8c1a14c0&oe=5D3128F7)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on April 19, 2019, 09:01:34 AM
^Cute.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 19, 2019, 09:05:53 AM
It sounds cool. Drove it with the windows down on the way to the shop. Some parts seem really really cheap (gas cap cover, HVAC controls, air vents), but other than that it's a cool little rig.  It's got the slide-back roof, too, which is bosssss.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 29, 2019, 07:05:31 PM
Did that Thunderbird today.  Turned out nice.  Tires didn't want to hold dressing, but that's 'cause I'm pretty sure they're the originals and they're drying out.

(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58590364_10157001745862211_244630011351400448_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=5ce9689d0235a7ebf7d4145d3c80fc29&oe=5D68FB59)

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 29, 2019, 07:08:50 PM
Also did a Buick Envision.  Which I thought was the Trax equivalent, but apparently it's the Equinox equivalent.  Anyways.  It's mud season, and she apparently took her dog adventuring over the weekend...iron ore dirt is a bitch, but at least the seats are leather so it was as simple as degreasing them and then going back over with the usual interior product after for the final cleaning.

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 29, 2019, 07:11:25 PM
Envision?  Never heard of it. Another rental car crossover from GM. At least it's clean.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on April 29, 2019, 07:13:52 PM
How did the seats get so dirty?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 29, 2019, 07:15:51 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 29, 2019, 07:11:25 PM
Envision?  Never heard of it. Another rental car crossover from GM. At least it's clean.

Yeah.  I guess the Buick Encore is the Trax twin.  Apparently I detailed this Envision last year, but only the outside.  I do not recall, despite having a (usually) impeccable memory of every vehicle I detail.  I remember vehicles better than people's names...like a bartender who knows what to pour you as soon as you walk in the door, but might not remember your name (and yes, I've also been that bartender :lol:).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 29, 2019, 07:17:50 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 29, 2019, 07:13:52 PM
How did the seats get so dirty?

Quote from: giant_mtb on April 29, 2019, 07:08:50 PM
It's mud season, and she apparently took her dog adventuring over the weekend...iron ore dirt is a bitch, but at least the seats are leather so it was as simple as degreasing them and then going back over with the usual interior product after for the final cleaning.

;)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on April 29, 2019, 07:55:51 PM
Are there any particular products you use for convertible tops? I've been using Raggtopp cleaner and protectant on the S2000, but I'm out, so I figure it couldn't hurt to see if you have any other recommendations.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 29, 2019, 09:23:01 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on April 29, 2019, 07:55:51 PM
Are there any particular products you use for convertible tops? I've been using Raggtopp cleaner and protectant on the S2000, but I'm out, so I figure it couldn't hurt to see if you have any other recommendations.

303 makes good shit.  Basically what you want/need is UV protection so the top will last long.  Might be able to find the right 303 product at your local outdoors store that also deals with boat gear (Bass Pro, Gander, etc), as they have that stuff in stock for boat canopies.  I don't deal with many convertible tops, but I have a bottle of 303 on hand for such occasions.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 29, 2019, 11:19:38 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 29, 2019, 07:11:25 PM
Envision?  Never heard of it. Another rental car crossover from GM. At least it's clean.

Its the Chinese Buick.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 01, 2019, 02:49:16 PM
After 5+ years of very heavy use, my ShopVac motor died. It was starting to smell like hot motor the last couple days and it finally whirred to a halt yesterday. So, I bought another ShopVac.  It is quieter than the old one.  I'm using the old vac's can as I like the handle, casters, and tool storage is has on it better than the new one. So, I, uh, detailed my ShopVac so the metal can is all nice and shiny again.  Now I have a random, new vacuum can laying around for...who knows.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 01, 2019, 03:49:39 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 01, 2019, 02:49:16 PM
After 5+ years of very heavy use, my ShopVac motor died. It was starting to smell like hot motor the last couple days and it finally whirred to a halt yesterday. So, I bought another ShopVac.  It is quieter than the old one.  I'm using the old vac's can as I like the handle, casters, and tool storage is has on it better than the new one. So, I, uh, detailed my ShopVac so the metal can is all nice and shiny again.  Now I have a random, new vacuum can laying around for...who knows.

You can fix the old one, I bet. I have replaced the motor bearings and brushes in shop vacs. Not too hard.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 01, 2019, 03:51:07 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 01, 2019, 03:49:39 PM
You can fix the old one, I bet. I have replaced the motor bearings and brushes in shop vacs. Not too hard.

Most likely, but I needed a vacuum now.  Ain't got time for downtime!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 01, 2019, 03:57:22 PM
Oh, how rude of me to forget.

(https://i.imgur.com/FHTrNgc.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 01, 2019, 03:59:01 PM
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Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on May 01, 2019, 04:00:07 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 01, 2019, 03:57:22 PM
Oh, how rude of me to forget.

Shop vac isn't good enough for the FB page?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 01, 2019, 04:02:40 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on May 01, 2019, 04:00:07 PM
Shop vac isn't good enough for the FB page?

Hmmm perhaps I'll throw those pics on with today's post as a cute 'lil gag...those pics were taken late last night.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 01, 2019, 04:07:35 PM
Not trying to offer unsolicited life advice, but you might want to finish the detail job on the shop vac for the *after* photo. Dry and polish that chrome to a mirror finish, put some bacon grease ln the plastic trim, etc. When you're done with that, throw it in a muddy ditch and run over it with your truck, then take a real good *before* picture.
:lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on May 01, 2019, 04:09:38 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 01, 2019, 04:02:40 PM
Hmmm perhaps I'll throw those pics on with today's post as a cute 'lil gag...those pics were taken late last night.

lol I was mostly joking. I meant to put a :lol: but forgot.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on May 07, 2019, 11:36:01 AM
Time for me to restore the paint on the KIA

What rub on and spray on protectors/sealants do you recommend?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 07, 2019, 11:47:40 AM
DP Poli-coat Sealant
Klasse Sealant Glaze
Meguiar's Synthetic X-Press Spray Wax
Collinite Insulator Wax

Those are the four waxes/sealants I use most.  Collinite is used the most, as it's the wax I use for virtually all of my wash&wax jobs.  I use the spray wax on door jambs and such (and on Taco after it gets washed, and it's quite good for a spray wax).  Sealants get used if someone asks/pays extra (as the products are simply more expensive, though the application process is virtually the same).

DP Poli-coat is great for the price.  Klasse is costlier, but just as good, if not a bit harder to buff off though.  If you wanna pay $ for ceramics, go for it, I guess, but they're a lot of marketing wank IMO, especially if you stick to regular maintenance practices in the first place.

If you're looking to restore the paint, your first question should be about rubbing compounds/polishes, not waxes and sealants.  Though a thorough wash and a good wax job makes a marked improvement in any paint, as you can see in all of the pictures I post ITT... :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: thewizard16 on May 07, 2019, 12:31:15 PM
I need to bring my car to you just for detailing. It's nowhere near that dirty, I just want someone to make it all sparkly :wub: and pretty like you do to those cars.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 07, 2019, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: thewizard16 on May 07, 2019, 12:31:15 PM
I need to bring my car to you just for detailing. It's nowhere near that dirty, I just want someone to make it all sparkly :wub: and pretty like you do to those cars.

Next CarSPIN GTG...detailing party in the Yoop!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on May 07, 2019, 04:46:18 PM
I did a paint restore on the G w/stuff you recommended... still have it

Optima might be able to get away with a good cleaning and wax but I'd like to get it 100%. It can probably get away with the lightest orbital polish possible
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 07, 2019, 06:27:38 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 07, 2019, 04:46:18 PM
I did a paint restore on the G w/stuff you recommended... still have it

Optima might be able to get away with a good cleaning and wax but I'd like to get it 100%. It can probably get away with the lightest orbital polish possible

Probably, yes.  Unless you're super anal, a single-stage/light cut is all you need, especially if you're waxing after.

Post before/after pics!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 14, 2019, 04:56:25 PM
I need to restore paint on all three of my trux...
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 14, 2019, 06:30:34 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 14, 2019, 04:56:25 PM
I need to restore paint on all three of my trux...

Good luck...? :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on May 14, 2019, 08:58:51 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 14, 2019, 04:56:25 PM
I need to restore paint on all three of my trux...

I sanded paint chips and put a bunch of Rust-Oleum on the roof of the exploder today. Does that count?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on May 25, 2019, 01:54:53 PM
I'm confused on what protectant to use

Synthetic wax seems straightforward and long lasting but supposedly doesn't retain much shine

There are some consumer grade ceramic coatings but that just sounds sketch

Have you heard anything about stuff like CQuartz?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 26, 2019, 08:53:34 AM
You're thinking about it way too much. Just get some wax and wax it twice a year. Ceramics are barely worth the money...if they were as amazing as they say, they wouldn't have to sell "recharge" products right alongside of them.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 12,000 RPM on May 26, 2019, 12:55:23 PM
Fair enough, I am just looking to deal with this paint as little as possible. Might just have to bite the bullet and find a decent detailer down here
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Speed_Racer on May 26, 2019, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 25, 2019, 01:54:53 PM
I'm confused on what protectant to use

Synthetic wax seems straightforward and long lasting but supposedly doesn't retain much shine

There are some consumer grade ceramic coatings but that just sounds sketch

Have you heard anything about stuff like CQuartz?

I apply synthetic wax a couple times per year, but top it with carnauba whenever I want that deep shine back
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 26, 2019, 10:29:23 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 26, 2019, 12:55:23 PM
Fair enough, I am just looking to deal with this paint as little as possible. Might just have to bite the bullet and find a decent detailer down here

If you're looking to have the paint buffed out and stuff and don't wanna do it yourself, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have it professionally done. Then, you have a clean slate that you can maintain. With good maintenance and careful washing, you can get a couple years out of freshly buffed black paint. Wax "hides" a lot of the superficial scratches you get, and a hand polishing once a year on a clean slate should keep her fresh for quite some time.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 30, 2019, 07:25:13 AM
I've detailed 82 cars since March 25th.

:wtf: :rockon:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 30, 2019, 07:28:17 AM
I think I've done 82 oil changes. Ugh. :zzz:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 30, 2019, 07:31:32 AM
Nope, I lied.  78.  But probably 82+ if you include keeping my parents' vehicles clean, my truck, and a couple little jobs here and there for friends.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on June 01, 2019, 04:30:55 PM
S2000 was real nasty. Now it is not. :wub:

(https://i.imgur.com/qDQb9qj.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/I3CUvkE.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on June 01, 2019, 04:38:06 PM
Hey, good job. :ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 01, 2019, 05:12:06 PM
:rockon:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on June 01, 2019, 11:03:42 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 01, 2019, 04:38:06 PM
Hey, good job. :ohyeah:

Thanks!

Quote from: giant_mtb on June 01, 2019, 05:12:06 PM
:rockon:

Are there any tricks to removing wax other than elbow grease? That's the only part of the process I really hate. Wears me out.

I did two coats today - a Maguiar's cleaner wax first, then their "Gold Class" which I guess is a carnuba with additives.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 20, 2019, 04:27:21 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 01, 2019, 11:03:42 PM
Thanks!

Are there any tricks to removing wax other than elbow grease? That's the only part of the process I really hate. Wears me out.

I did two coats today - a Maguiar's cleaner wax first, then their "Gold Class" which I guess is a carnuba with additives.

I like that Gold Class.  Used it a lot back in the day.  No tricks, just elbow grease.  If you're finding it difficult to remove, try using less wax, as caking it on too thick is a recipe for painful removal (this is usually the error I find when asked this question, it doesn't need to be thickly applied).  That, or don't let it completely dry out before you wipe it off.  Just let it flash a bit and you're good to wipe off.  If you're waxing by hand, the time it takes you to wax the next panel is plenty of drying time for the previous panel. :ohyeah:

If you're waxing it outside, even a slight breeze will dry the wax out quickly, so getting to the wipe-off before it's totally dried is key for easy removal.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 20, 2019, 04:32:48 PM
Did a complete reconditioning of mom's Q5's paint.  Washed, clayed (with the trusty clay bar mitt), buffed, and waxed.  Haven't done it in a few years at least, so it was due.  Picture doesn't do it justice, but just look at those reflections!

Meg's Diamond Cut 2.0
Meg's Swirl Remover 2.0
Collinite Insulator Wax

(https://i.imgur.com/kHtMRQW.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 20, 2019, 06:45:34 PM
bett3r pix

(https://i.imgur.com/bXl7Nj1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NI8yLnc.jpg)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: r0tor on June 21, 2019, 10:39:58 AM
I often wondered if the clay mitt worked as well as a clay bar
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2019, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: r0tor on June 21, 2019, 10:39:58 AM
I often wondered if the clay mitt worked as well as a clay bar

Yes.  And it's so much easier and more convenient.  Clay barring with clay is a time consuming process.  Clay mitt is quick and just adds a step to the wash process.  Lasts a long time, too.  I usually go through just two every summer.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: HurricaneSteve on June 21, 2019, 12:15:14 PM
When you say clay bar mitt are you referring to the nanoskin or do they really have a mitt that you can attach clay to? Also, how many times can you use cutting/swirl remover compound before the clearcoat thins too much? I'm hesitant to try those products for that reason.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2019, 12:38:48 PM
Quote from: HurricaneSteve on June 21, 2019, 12:15:14 PM
When you say clay bar mitt are you referring to the nanoskin or do they really have a mitt that you can attach clay to? Also, how many times can you use cutting/swirl remover compound before the clearcoat thins too much? I'm hesitant to try those products for that reason.

Nanoskin.

How many times?  I don't know.  But an annual/bi-annual polishing is not going to do any harm.  These products wouldn't exist if they weren't safe.  If you're doing it by hand...never worry.  Best thing to do is to do one heavy cut and then maintain it so you don't need to cut heavy ever again.  If you get that pristine base-line with a heavy compound, you should be fine with an annual/bi-annual once-over with a lighter (polishing) compound to get it back to baseline for the life of the vehicle.

EDIT:  Er, not bi-annual.  Whatever the word for 2 years is.  Polishing every 1-2 years.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on June 21, 2019, 12:48:36 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 21, 2019, 12:38:48 PM
EDIT:  Er, not bi-annual.  Whatever the word for 2 years is.  Polishing every 1-2 years.

Biennial.

But those words are confusing. Bi-weekly can either mean twice per week or every other week.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2019, 12:51:42 PM
Also, with a random-orbital polisher, you increase the safety factor because they don't heat the paint as much as a traditional rotary polisher. 

https://itsbetterwaxed.com/blogs/detailing-tips/50694340-what-s-the-difference-with-dual-action-random-orbit-and-rotary-buffers

I have a "forced" dual-action polisher (the Flex 3401 VRG mentioned in that article) which combines the safety of a random-orbit and the power of a traditional rotary polisher.  So it has the power for serious paint correction, while utilizing the safety factor of a random-orbit (ie, doesn't produce as much heat to the paint).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: HurricaneSteve on June 21, 2019, 04:30:39 PM
Excellent, thanks for the info. I do like the Nanoskin to save time, although I'd imagine a clay bar would be more precise and effective? I bought a $30 B&D orbital buffer off of Amazon awhile back to learn with but I just haven't gotten around to finding time and doing it. The goal is to work my way up so I can correct some of the swirl marks on my Miata that I'm assuming the dealership inflicted before they sold me the car.

Quote from: giant_mtb on June 21, 2019, 12:38:48 PM
Nanoskin.

How many times?  I don't know.  But an annual/bi-annual polishing is not going to do any harm.  These products wouldn't exist if they weren't safe.  If you're doing it by hand...never worry.  Best thing to do is to do one heavy cut and then maintain it so you don't need to cut heavy ever again.  If you get that pristine base-line with a heavy compound, you should be fine with an annual/bi-annual once-over with a lighter (polishing) compound to get it back to baseline for the life of the vehicle.

EDIT:  Er, not bi-annual.  Whatever the word for 2 years is.  Polishing every 1-2 years.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2019, 04:36:39 PM
Clay bar and the mitt will produce the same results, just take your time and check your prigress. I've always hated clay barring (the process, not the results), so the mitts are a godsend, especially as a time saver.

Don't worry too much about buffing...I had the same fears the first couple times I did it as well.  You'll quickly learn that it's really quite easy once you get a handle on how the machine likes to work, and the results will be fantastic.  Start off by practicing with a round of finishing polish or even just a wax job at low speed to get a feel.  You literally can't make the paint worse, so just go for it!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on June 21, 2019, 07:47:29 PM
I've used orbital buffers a lot for waxing, but I've never polished my own cars. I should practice on Explorer.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2019, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 21, 2019, 07:47:29 PM
I've used orbital buffers a lot for waxing, but I've never polished my own cars. I should practice on Explorer.

Go for it. Like I said, you can't make it worse.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 21, 2019, 08:04:42 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 21, 2019, 07:50:18 PM
Go for it. Like I said, you can't make it worse.

You could burn through the paint ... :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2019, 08:11:18 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on June 21, 2019, 08:04:42 PM
You could burn through the paint ... :lol:

That's such a myth these days. Maybe if you stood on top of your buffer in one spot for 14 minutes.  But a random-orbit wouldn't even let you do that.

In the days of single-stage paint and rotary buffers, sure.  But not anymore.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 21, 2019, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 21, 2019, 08:11:18 PM
That's such a myth these days. Maybe if you stood on top of your buffer in one spot for 14 minutes.  But a random-orbit wouldn't even let you do that.

In the days of single-stage paint and rotary buffers, sure.  But not anymore.

Well, yeah,   but if you've had a shitty respray done at a fly by night body shop, don't get carried away buffing that nasty orange peel.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 21, 2019, 08:48:35 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on June 21, 2019, 08:46:01 PM
Well, yeah,   but if you've had a shitty respray done at a fly by night body shop, don't get carried away buffing that nasty orange peel.

Well, yeah.  You're not wrong.

Orange peel requires wet sanding.  Just look at the pics of my mom's Q5 earlier...factory orange peel.  No such thing as a factory paint job without orange peel.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 21, 2019, 09:31:44 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 21, 2019, 08:48:35 PM
Well, yeah.  You're not wrong.

Orange peel requires wet sanding.  Just look at the pics of my mom's Q5 earlier...factory orange peel.  No such thing as a factory paint job without orange peel.

Shitty body shops are worse. Orange peel, drips, fish eyes, off color,.. might as well sticker bomb it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 22, 2019, 09:03:15 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on June 21, 2019, 09:31:44 PM
Shitty body shops are worse. Orange peel, drips, fish eyes, off color,.. might as well sticker bomb it.

Luckily I don't think we have any shitty body shops around here. Don't think they'd last. The people that want cheap ass body work just do it themselves. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on June 22, 2019, 04:10:24 PM
If I were to do a light detail, how would I go about doing it?  My car has 50k miles, is black, and has the predictable swirl marks and a few deeper scratches.  I'm not comfortable with polishing (would that mean I'd use a random orbit sander to minimize the chances of cutting?), nor do I know much of anything about how to correct paint.  Is this something I can safely learn on a decent car or should I just bite the bullet and pay the $900+ to have a paint correction done?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 22, 2019, 04:39:18 PM
$900 for paint correction?  Jesus Christ, man, I'll do it for $275. :lol:

Yes, it is something you can safely learn. As I mentioned a few posts back, just go for it.  Get a random-orbit buffer and some good pads. Start with something light like a finishing polish or even just a wax job at low speed to get a feel for the machine and go from there.  It's very difficult to make it worse.  Do it in the garage, have a couple beers, and work on it.

Steps for a light detailing:

1. Thorough Wash
2. Clay bar (or clay bar mitt while washing, which I highly recommend)
3. Polishing/light-cutting buffer pad and a light-cut polish like Meg's Swirl Remover
4. Finishing pad and wax

The only big things to keep in mind while buffing:
1. Let the machine do the work, heavy pressure is not necessary
2. Always keep the buffer moving, even if you're going back and forth on a deeper scratch
3. Have fun
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on June 22, 2019, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 22, 2019, 04:39:18 PM
$900 for paint correction?  Jesus Christ, man, I'll do it for $275. :lol:

Yes, it is something you can safely learn. As I mentioned a few posts back, just go for it.  Get a random-orbit buffer and some good pads. Start with something light like a finishing polish or even just a wax job at low speed to get a feel for the machine and go from there.  It's very difficult to make it worse.  Do it in the garage, have a couple beers, and work on it.

Steps for a light detailing:

1. Thorough Wash
2. Clay bar (or clay bar mitt while washing, which I highly recommend)
3. Polishing/light-cutting buffer pad and a light-cut polish like Meg's Swirl Remover
4. Finishing pad and wax

The only big things to keep in mind while buffing:
1. Let the machine do the work, heavy pressure is not necessary
2. Always keep the buffer moving, even if you're going back and forth on a deeper scratch
3. Have fun

Thanks for the steps.  I wasn't sure if I was missing anything.

I'm okay if my polishing job doesn't do much to fix the paint.  I'd rather learn the steps slowly.

When I'm waxing, do I use the same machine to wax or should I apply by hand?  What buffer pad should I use? Should I use lube for the mitt?  What waxes are best?  There are too many products out there for my own good!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 22, 2019, 04:50:28 PM
Yeah, just take your time and get a feel for it!

You can wax by hand if you want, or use the machine at a low speed (a great way to get a feel for it before you move on to actual correction). I like to use the buffer because it spreads the wax really consistently and evenly. For wax, you can use a finishing/polishing pad, I can post some links later. Yes, you want to use lube for the mitt...soapy water is what I usually use as it's just part of the wash process.  My favorite wax right now is Collinite Insulator Wax. But really, any wax will do the trick.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 25, 2019, 07:32:27 PM
Here are the first pictures of a detailed vehicle I took with my new phone.  Haven't seen them on the big screen here yet...

(https://i.imgur.com/aNUCycN.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CYh4Ikx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0SLErO3.jpg)

Looks pretty good.  Better than the pics from my old phone (not that they were bad).  The HDR seems much more pronounced, and the pictures look great.  That first picture especially, with the green on the tree in the background, looks awesome!  Also, this blue paint is an awesome color, and I generally like the stability (for lack of a better word) of GM paints.  They're durable and clean nicely.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 25, 2019, 07:41:16 PM
Also, damn, sorry for all the weeds growing in the cracks between concrete patches.  I mowed the lawn the other day and went to go weed-whackin', but I ran out of wacker line, so I haven't gotten to it yet. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 25, 2019, 07:43:40 PM
Just pour gasoline on it and light it on fire.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on June 26, 2019, 07:14:44 AM
Wow.  You should have bought a new phone earlier.  That looks a lot better than your previous pictures.

Also, your building could use a new cleaning and coat of paint.  Starting to get that distressed look :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2019, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: MrH on June 26, 2019, 07:14:44 AM
Also, your building could use a new cleaning and coat of paint.  Starting to get that distressed look :lol:

Send me a check. :huh:

:lol:

I know...I'm thinking/hoping to paint it either later this summer or next.  But what colors...

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2019, 10:55:30 AM
Thinking about getting an ozone generator machine thing.  Supposed to be great for odor elimination.  I thought they were really expensive (and they can be), but apparently not.  Can get one for like $70-80 on Amazon.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on June 26, 2019, 10:58:03 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 26, 2019, 10:55:30 AM
Thinking about getting an ozone generator machine thing.  Supposed to be great for odor elimination.  I thought they were really expensive (and they can be), but apparently not.  Can get one for like $70-80 on Amazon.

:rockon:

Based on a few minutes of research I did about four years ago, it seems like that's basically the only way to really get rid of cigarette smell.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 26, 2019, 11:04:48 AM
Ozone works good on killing doge smell in house. It also regenerstes the ozone layer, right?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2019, 11:04:54 AM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 26, 2019, 10:58:03 AM
:rockon:

Based on a few minutes of research I did about four years ago, it seems like that's basically the only way to really get rid of cigarette smell.

Yeah.  I get the occasional customer who just bought a car and somehow didn't realize it was smoked in, or their pet had an accident, etc.  Shampooing and odor bombs don't always truly do the trick.  But if I can stick an ozone machine in a car for 30-60 minutes and be done with it...fuck yeah.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2019, 11:05:15 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on June 26, 2019, 11:04:48 AM
Ozone works good on killing doge smell in house. It also regenerstes the ozone layer, right?

Yes.  I hear it's very healthy to breathe in as well.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on June 26, 2019, 11:17:42 AM
I did one of those odor bombs in the S2000 when I got it.  It had just a musty, dirty smell to it.  Like an old attic.  The cabin air filter was still the original and packed full of leaves and debris.  Replaced that and did one of those odor bombs and it worked great.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2019, 11:33:44 AM
Quote from: MrH on June 26, 2019, 11:17:42 AM
I did one of those odor bombs in the S2000 when I got it.  It had just a musty, dirty smell to it.  Like an old attic.  The cabin air filter was still the original and packed full of leaves and debris.  Replaced that and did one of those odor bombs and it worked great.

Yeah, they do work, and I do use them.  But I'd like to try an ozone thing as well.  Especially for a smoker's vehicle...shampooing the headliner on a smoker's vehicle is a nasty, nasty project.  Spray shampoo up there and it just starts dripping back down with nasty orange tar shit.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on June 26, 2019, 11:35:42 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 26, 2019, 11:33:44 AM
Yeah, they do work, and I do use them.  But I'd like to try an ozone thing as well.  Especially for a smoker's vehicle...shampooing the headliner on a smoker's vehicle is a nasty, nasty project.  Spray shampoo up there and it just starts dripping back down with nasty orange tar shit.

2o6's video of steam cleaning a smoker's car was nasty AF. Seemed satisfying to get all the nasty shit out, though.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2019, 11:38:24 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 26, 2019, 11:35:42 AM
2o6's video of steam cleaning a smoker's car was nasty AF. Seemed satisfying to get all the nasty shit out, though.

For sure.  One of the main reasons I actually don't mind my work is because I get instant gratification over the whole process.  Start with something dirty...4-6 hours later, it's a complete, shiny hunk of metal.  Woo!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on June 26, 2019, 11:39:35 AM
Yeah. I enjoy cutting the grass for the same reason.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2019, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 26, 2019, 11:39:35 AM
Yeah. I enjoy cutting the grass for the same reason.

Hell yeah.  And snowblowing.  Last winter somebody asked me why I don't hire somebody to plow the shop's driveway in the winter...bro, I fuckin' love snowblowing. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: HurricaneSteve on June 26, 2019, 01:11:30 PM
Good stuff thanks for the advice. Another question, do you wait until there are multiple swirlmarks/hairline scratches before running the buffer? Or do you spot cut/polish too if there's say a small spot that could use some cleaning up?

Quote from: giant_mtb on June 22, 2019, 04:50:28 PM
Yeah, just take your time and get a feel for it!

You can wax by hand if you want, or use the machine at a low speed (a great way to get a feel for it before you move on to actual correction). I like to use the buffer because it spreads the wax really consistently and evenly. For wax, you can use a finishing/polishing pad, I can post some links later. Yes, you want to use lube for the mitt...soapy water is what I usually use as it's just part of the wash process.  My favorite wax right now is Collinite Insulator Wax. But really, any wax will do the trick.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2019, 01:20:47 PM
If something happens and you notice a spot that could use it, go for it.  Like if somebody brushes up against your car with their rough pants or you get a scratch from a branch or something...go for it and do that spot/area.  No harm.

But generally, yeah, you want to do the whole thing all at once so that the finish is consistent all across the car.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on June 26, 2019, 03:19:52 PM
Just talked with a local auto retailer recommended by a friend.  Without seeing the car, he estimates that it would cost $450-500 to polish/buff my midsize SUV.  Not sure if I should go with him or just do a less intensive job on my own. 

Given my goal of a light (beginners) paint correction, is there a particular type of buffer pad I should use?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 26, 2019, 03:31:24 PM
Quote from: Submariner on June 26, 2019, 03:19:52 PM
Just talked with a local auto retailer recommended by a friend.  Without seeing the car, he estimates that it would cost $450-500 to polish/buff my midsize SUV.  Not sure if I should go with him or just do a less intensive job on my own. 

Given my goal of a light (beginners) paint correction, is there a particular type of buffer pad I should use?

I'm a big fan of Lake Country CCS pads.

https://www.autogeek.net/lc-ccs-6inch-pads.html

Scroll down a bit to see the description/intended use of each different color pad.  I like the blue and black pads for waxing and final polishing.  White or orange are good for light cutting compounds.

(https://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/autogeek/2018-refresh-aggression-chart.jpg)

I would suggest the white pad for the compound and the black pad for any wax/sealant you want to apply.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 26, 2019, 03:49:25 PM
I would def go with the most aggressive brake pads.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on June 27, 2019, 07:47:49 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 26, 2019, 10:55:30 AM
Thinking about getting an ozone generator machine thing.  Supposed to be great for odor elimination.  I thought they were really expensive (and they can be), but apparently not.  Can get one for like $70-80 on Amazon.



I ran one in my parents musty smelling basement.  I ran it on its highest setting (I think it was rated for 3,000 sq. ft.) for 12 hours, and used two large 36" fans to circulate air.  The basement didn't smell like anything for at least a year after.

Some people say that O2 generators work well, others say that they have no effect.  In my experience it did a fantastic job of eliminating the odor, rather than just masking it.  However, O2 is a strong oxidant and will severely irritate your lungs.  It can also chemically break down organic materials, so try and use it sparingly if possible.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: 2o6 on June 27, 2019, 07:48:34 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 26, 2019, 11:35:42 AM
2o6's video of steam cleaning a smoker's car was nasty AF. Seemed satisfying to get all the nasty shit out, though.


That actually was a hot water extraction, not steam
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on June 27, 2019, 07:49:26 PM
Quote from: Submariner on June 27, 2019, 07:47:49 PM
I ran one in my parents musty smelling basement.  I ran it on its highest setting (I think it was rated for 3,000 sq. ft.) for 12 hours, and used two large 36" fans to circulate air.  The basement didn't smell like anything for at least a year after.

Some people say that O2 generators work well, others say that they have no effect.  In my experience it did a fantastic job of eliminating the odor, rather than just masking it.  However, O2 is a strong oxidant and will severely irritate your lungs.  It can also chemically break down organic materials, so try and use it sparingly if possible.

O3 ;)

Preeeeeety sure that O2 is perfectly healthy for humans. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on June 27, 2019, 08:46:20 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 27, 2019, 07:49:26 PM
O3 ;)

Preeeeeety sure that O2 is perfectly healthy for humans. :lol:

Damnit!!!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on June 27, 2019, 08:52:40 PM
I bought a clay mitt and practiced a bit before I do the polish.  Even after washing each panel three times, it's amazing how much residue the clay bar takes off.

Even still, I couldn't get rid of all of the residue on the front end of the car.  Perhaps I used too much lubrication (car soap), but even several passes with the clay bar didn't seem to remove all the dirt.  Some spots I soaked with a bit of degreaser, but I'm not sure how that is with clear coat so I didn't let it sit for long.  How do I get rid of more stubborn road tar and debris? 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Laconian on June 27, 2019, 11:40:35 PM
Quote from: Submariner on June 27, 2019, 07:47:49 PM
I ran one in my parents musty smelling basement.  I ran it on its highest setting (I think it was rated for 3,000 sq. ft.) for 12 hours, and used two large 36" fans to circulate air.  The basement didn't smell like anything for at least a year after.

Some people say that O2 generators work well, others say that they have no effect.  In my experience it did a fantastic job of eliminating the odor, rather than just masking it.  However, O2 is a strong oxidant and will severely irritate your lungs.  It can also chemically break down organic materials, so try and use it sparingly if possible.

And it's a carcinogen!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 28, 2019, 04:14:31 AM
Quote from: Submariner on June 27, 2019, 08:52:40 PM
I bought a clay mitt and practiced a bit before I do the polish.  Even after washing each panel three times, it's amazing how much residue the clay bar takes off.

Even still, I couldn't get rid of all of the residue on the front end of the car.  Perhaps I used too much lubrication (car soap), but even several passes with the clay bar didn't seem to remove all the dirt.  Some spots I soaked with a bit of degreaser, but I'm not sure how that is with clear coat so I didn't let it sit for long.  How do I get rid of more stubborn road tar and debris? 

Degreaser isn't going to affect your paint, and it is actually decent as a clay/mitt lubricant, so no worries there.  Remember that your clear coat is essentially a pigment-free paint designed to last the life of the vehicle...takes something strong and deliberate to actually fuck it up.

Don't be afraid to apply a little pressure to get more stubborn spots clean. And your fingernail is always a good weapon for spot cleaning of bug guts or tar spots.  Degreaser is good, also try rubbing alcohol (great for sap and windows, and you can put it in a spray bottle).
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on June 28, 2019, 05:31:56 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 28, 2019, 04:14:31 AM
Degreaser isn't going to affect your paint, and it is actually decent as a clay/mitt lubricant, so no worries there.  Remember that your clear coat is essentially a pigment-free paint designed to last the life of the vehicle...takes something strong and deliberate to actually fuck it up.

Don't be afraid to apply a little pressure to get more stubborn spots clean. And your fingernail is always a good weapon for spot cleaning of bug guts or tar spots.  Degreaser is good, also try rubbing alcohol (great for sap and windows, and you can put it in a spray bottle).

Ahh of course.  Rubbing alcohol.  That makes sense thanks.

I think this is my list of goods at this point:

Random Orbital Sander: https://www.amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-7424XP-6-Inch-Variable-Speed-Polisher/dp/B002654I46/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_263_t_0/130-2414413-4773405?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=8GKPBTB8NSMFS3V96NSR

Light cut pad: https://www.autogeek.net/coarse-green-pad.html

Wax / zero cut pad: https://www.autogeek.net/lc-ccs-gray-6.html

Meguiar's Swirl remover 2.0: https://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-Mirror-Glaze-Swirl-Remover/dp/B0002SQVX0/ref=asc_df_B0002SQVX0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312190122371&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8357372832650142062&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003217&hvtargid=pla-490290145893&psc=1

Collinite 845 Insulator Wax: https://www.amazon.com/Collinite-Liquid-Insulator-Wax-845/dp/B000JK2D06/ref=asc_df_B000JK2D06/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312202698398&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14502783811493702747&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003217&hvtargid=pla-422424326378&psc=1


Can I use the same processes on plastic-chrome trim? 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 28, 2019, 06:31:48 AM
Plastic, no. You don't want to get polish/wax on it. In fact, it's usually best to tape off black plastic trim.  Some plastics will soak up polish or wax and turn white, and it's annoying to remove (another good time to use rubbing alcohol). 

Chrome...doesn't really need to be buffed or anything, but slap some wax on it to shine it up, for sure.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: r0tor on July 07, 2019, 03:40:01 PM
Any good suggestions on maintaining a leather dash? Afraid to use anything oily and it soaks through and messes us the adhesive holding the leather on
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 07, 2019, 06:09:18 PM
What interior cleaners do you use in general? I see most dealerships slather on the bacon grease so what looks nice without being greasy?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on July 07, 2019, 06:50:23 PM
Quote from: r0tor on July 07, 2019, 03:40:01 PM
Any good suggestions on maintaining a leather dash? Afraid to use anything oily and it soaks through and messes us the adhesive holding the leather on

Is it real leather, polyurethane, or some sort of olefin?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: r0tor on July 07, 2019, 08:02:46 PM
Pretty sure it's real leather
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on July 07, 2019, 10:17:53 PM
I'd probably use just what I use on my Saddleback bags.  https://www.amazon.com/Leather-Milk-Conditioner-All-Natural-Applicator/dp/B007ZDDUCK?ref_=bl_dp_s_web_8124200011

That's what I like best and should be fine on your car.  If it's polyurethane based, I'd just wipe it down with a wet microfiber towel.

As for the adhesive holding it on, nothing is going to soak through and cause that to deactivate really.  If you had issues with it coming off, the glue never fully activated during manufacturing then (which isn't an unheard of thing in leather wrapping).

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 08, 2019, 06:28:02 AM
I would imagine heat cycling would be a bigger threat to the adhesive.

But yeah, any good leather stuff will do. Preferably something with UV protection.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 08, 2019, 06:30:09 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 07, 2019, 06:09:18 PM
What interior cleaners do you use in general? I see most dealerships slather on the bacon grease so what looks nice without being greasy?

Using an APC/light degreaser will get you clean without the grease. There are also some interior products designed to provide a matte finish, though I don't have any experience (that I can remember) with store-available stuff besides Meg's Quik Interior Detailer. Which I still order by the gallon to this day.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on July 08, 2019, 11:42:41 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 08, 2019, 06:30:09 AM
Using an APC/light degreaser will get you clean without the grease. There are also some interior products designed to provide a matte finish, though I don't have any experience (that I can remember) with store-available stuff besides Meg's Quik Interior Detailer. Which I still order by the gallon to this day.

Meg's works great...just have to make sure to wipe down every panel with a clean towel after cleaning or there will be excess shine.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Speed_Racer on July 08, 2019, 03:34:54 PM
I love 303 aerospace protectant on my interior plastics - no ridiculous shine or weird smells.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 10, 2019, 01:33:39 PM
Quote from: Submariner on July 08, 2019, 11:42:41 AM
Meg's works great...just have to make sure to wipe down every panel with a clean towel after cleaning or there will be excess shine.

Or just use less. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on July 10, 2019, 02:32:27 PM
Most interiors just need to be wiped down with a damp cloth.  You don't need to spray any garbage on a injection molded piece of plastic.  Lots of them actually do harm.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 10, 2019, 02:43:28 PM
Quote from: MrH on July 10, 2019, 02:32:27 PM
Most interiors just need to be wiped down with a damp cloth.  You don't need to spray any garbage on a injection molded piece of plastic.  Lots of them actually do harm.

But the people want their dash "armor-all'd."  Some people really love glare from their dash on the windshield for some buttfuckall reason.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on July 10, 2019, 02:44:20 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 10, 2019, 02:43:28 PM
But the people want their dash "armor-all'd."  Some people really love glare from their dash on the windshield for some buttfuckall reason.

:confused:  I don't understand that at all.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 10, 2019, 02:49:14 PM
Quote from: MrH on July 10, 2019, 02:44:20 PM
:confused:  I don't understand that at all.



Me either. My interior cleaner spray bottle is a combo of APC and a very small amount of Hyper Dressing (Meg's water based rubber/plastic/vinyl/etc dressing) for a good clean and just a touch of "depth" that a little dressing provides without being shiny or greasy.  Oh, and of course most of the concoction is just clean water.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on July 11, 2019, 06:29:35 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 10, 2019, 01:33:39 PM
Or just use less. 

I give the towel one spray per fold.  Still can't complain much...works well across leather and plastic.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: r0tor on July 11, 2019, 04:45:26 PM
Looks like there is some leather milk for automotive applications... Might try it

https://leathermilk.com/auto-refreshener-no-4-car-leather-conditioner/
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on July 18, 2019, 11:34:04 AM
I have water spots all over the windows...it almost looks like soap scum on a shower door.  NOTHING will take it off.  I've tried degreaser, magic erasers, washing with car soap and even a power washer...nothing works.  How do I take them off?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 18, 2019, 11:34:37 AM
Have you tried mineral spirits?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 18, 2019, 11:38:18 AM
Try rubbing alcohol. Or clay bar. Or if you have a buffer, glass-specific buffing pads exist.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on July 18, 2019, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 18, 2019, 11:34:37 AM
Have you tried mineral spirits?

No I haven't.  Is that safe for clear coat (in case it spills?)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on July 18, 2019, 11:43:07 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 18, 2019, 11:38:18 AM
Try rubbing alcohol. Or clay bar. Or if you have a buffer, glass-specific buffing pads exist.

I ordered a buffer...still waiting for it!

I'll give alcohol a shot.  I tried my synthetic clay bar but it did little to remove the stains.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 18, 2019, 11:56:09 AM
Quote from: Submariner on July 18, 2019, 11:42:13 AM
No I haven't.  Is that safe for clear coat (in case it spills?)

Yes. Mineral spirits and rubbing (isopropyl) alcohol are safe. It's stuff like paint (lacquer) thinner that's dangerous.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 18, 2019, 02:20:24 PM
Or, if you have the balls, razor blade.

https://youtu.be/_NTPTjEkpvw

Quite safe, really.  Just don't go side to side...just like shaving. :ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 08, 2019, 02:54:37 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xBrulg0.jpg)

These fucking marks will not come off.  I've tried:

Soap and water
A Mr. Clean magic eraser
Rubbing alcohol
Mineral spirits
Windex
A pressure washer

What the fucking fuck
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 08, 2019, 03:07:03 PM
Raise 'er blade.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 08, 2019, 03:43:46 PM
Not rubbing compound? Xylene? Sharpie?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 08, 2019, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on August 08, 2019, 03:07:03 PM
Raise 'er blade.

It covers every inch of the car, not just the windows.  I have my orbital sander (polisher) but I'm not sure if polishing is safe when the car isn't 100% clean.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 08, 2019, 03:54:00 PM
Quote from: Submariner on August 08, 2019, 03:49:19 PM
It covers every inch of the car, not just the windows.  I have my orbital sander (polisher) but I'm not sure if polishing is safe when the car isn't 100% clean.

Certainly not, do not do! :lol:

Have you tried using the buffer and compound on the windows?  Worth a shot for sure, I've had good luck with that.  Just gotta be careful about getting compound on any porous plastic/rubber surfaces around the windows.

They also make glass-specific buffing pads that have a lot more bite to them, as glass is hard as frig.  Work wonders on stubborn water stains like most sunroofs have.

https://www.amazon.com/Griots-Garage-10614-Glass-Polishing/dp/B004UQIUKW
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 08, 2019, 05:16:28 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on August 08, 2019, 03:54:00 PM
Certainly not, do not do! :lol:

Have you tried using the buffer and compound on the windows?  Worth a shot for sure, I've had good luck with that.  Just gotta be careful about getting compound on any porous plastic/rubber surfaces around the windows.

They also make glass-specific buffing pads that have a lot more bite to them, as glass is hard as frig.  Work wonders on stubborn water stains like most sunroofs have.

https://www.amazon.com/Griots-Garage-10614-Glass-Polishing/dp/B004UQIUKW

I might give a glass-specific pad a try.  I just got my wax pad in but I'm still waiting for the polish one (which is a light cut pad btw)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 08, 2019, 05:58:52 PM
Give the polish pad a try with some compound, then if you need to, get a glass pad and some heavy cut compound.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 09, 2019, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on August 08, 2019, 05:58:52 PM
Give the polish pad a try with some compound, then if you need to, get a glass pad and some heavy cut compound.

Yup.  That's what I'm thinking.  Given that these spots are all over the paint, too, is it safe to polish the clear coat?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 09, 2019, 02:35:25 PM
Would the polish be okay for dull brushed aluminum roof rails?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 09, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Quote from: Submariner on August 09, 2019, 02:32:32 PM
Yup.  That's what I'm thinking.  Given that these spots are all over the paint, too, is it safe to polish the clear coat?

Yes.  The buffing process will likely be what removes them from the paint. :ohyeah:

Quote from: Submariner on August 09, 2019, 02:35:25 PM
Would the polish be okay for dull brushed aluminum roof rails?

Yes.  Unless it's real, actual, bare aluminum.  If it's just the "fake" stuff like most roof rails are, you're fine.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 09, 2019, 04:25:31 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on August 09, 2019, 02:55:01 PM
Yes.  The buffing process will likely be what removes them from the paint. :ohyeah:

Yes.  Unless it's real, actual, bare aluminum.  If it's just the "fake" stuff like most roof rails are, you're fine.

When I tap it, it sounds and feels like metal.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 09, 2019, 06:03:39 PM
Quote from: Submariner on August 09, 2019, 04:25:31 PM
When I tap it, it sounds and feels like metal.

Yes, as it should be. But it likely isn't raw, bare aluminum. It's just some other metal with some sort of covering or coating to give the brushed aluminum look. You're fine. They do it all the time with roof rails.


Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 09, 2019, 06:10:54 PM
Basically any trim piece has an artificial coating. Stuff that looks like brushed aluminum is not actual brushed aluminum. It would corrode within weeks.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 09, 2019, 10:54:30 PM
Aunt rolled up today in her car with this

(https://i.imgur.com/3J850Gt.jpg)

She isn't sure if she scraped a car or a building  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on August 10, 2019, 04:35:11 AM
From a few messages back:
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 21, 2019, 12:48:36 PM
Biennial.

But those words are confusing. Bi-weekly can either mean twice per week or every other week.
Semi-weekly = twice/week. Technically wrong to use bi-weekly for both.
But people still use it for both.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on August 10, 2019, 04:42:00 AM
Quote from: Submariner on August 08, 2019, 02:54:37 PM
These fucking marks will not come off.  I've tried:

Soap and water
A Mr. Clean magic eraser
Rubbing alcohol
Mineral spirits
Windex
A pressure washer

What the fucking fuck
I've had good luck with super-fine (0000) steel wool pads soaked in glass cleaner, & yes rub vertically not horizontally.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 10, 2019, 05:44:11 AM
Yes, steel wool!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 11, 2019, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: Submariner on August 09, 2019, 10:54:30 PM
Aunt rolled up today in her car with this

(https://i.imgur.com/3J850Gt.jpg)

She isn't sure if she scraped a car or a building  :facepalm:

Woof. That's a good one. Buffing would improve it, but it looks like a lot of it is too deep for a buffer to get rid of. It's amazing what a good buff job will do for scratches like that, but you gotta have realistic expectations (ie, you fucked up...there's a point where it actually requires pain/body work). :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 11, 2019, 09:51:14 AM
Yeah.  That's what I'm thinking.  Apparently word has spread amongst family members that I have in my possession a "rotating polisher" (good enough) which makes me a professional auto retailer.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 11, 2019, 10:36:06 AM
Welcome to my life, brother! :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: shp4man on August 11, 2019, 02:42:27 PM
The white Focus has literally thousands of tiny dots of tree sap (I guess) on it. I spent two hours just on the truck and quarter panels yesterday. I got some stuff at Pep Boys that's supposed to remove it, but it hardly moves it. Seems like a "color back" car wax works better and a fingernail. Tedious as hell. Fucking trees... :muffin:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 11, 2019, 03:31:38 PM
Quote from: shp4man on August 11, 2019, 02:42:27 PM
The white Focus has literally thousands of tiny dots of tree sap (I guess) on it. I spent two hours just on the truck and quarter panels yesterday. I got some stuff at Pep Boys that's supposed to remove it, but it hardly moves it. Seems like a "color back" car wax works better and a fingernail. Tedious as hell. Fucking trees... :muffin:

I seen that. I scrape each dot off with my fingernails. Totally works
:muffin:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: shp4man on August 11, 2019, 06:26:28 PM
Would clay take it off?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 11, 2019, 06:47:22 PM
Quote from: shp4man on August 11, 2019, 06:26:28 PM
Would clay take it off?

Clay is messy. I'd try a nice, clean schist or basalt.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 11, 2019, 08:29:52 PM
Jesus Christ, no. Isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and a plastic razor blade. The alcohol will soften it up nicely.  Just not in the sun, 'cause it'll just evaporate.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: shp4man on August 11, 2019, 08:44:48 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on August 11, 2019, 08:29:52 PM
Jesus Christ, no. Isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and a plastic razor blade. The alcohol will soften it up nicely.  Just not in the sun, 'cause it'll just evaporate.

Thanks, I'll give that a try.  :ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 11, 2019, 08:51:49 PM
Quote from: shp4man on August 11, 2019, 06:26:28 PM
Would clay take it off?

Clay is busy until at least next Saturday.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 12, 2019, 07:15:42 PM
Good news is, I didn't ruin the clear coat.  Bad news is, I didn't even remove the small scratches:

(https://i.imgur.com/yX2tLZx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Zu1IPs1.jpg)

Not sure why went wrong.  I used Megs 2.0 mirror glaze and a light cut pad.  I used smooth, slow passes over the paint.  I didn't push too hard, but I did use some pressure.  Hmmph.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 12, 2019, 07:42:41 PM
You need to push harder, until it starts smoking. Maybe throw a handful of gravel in there, to cut in real deep.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 12, 2019, 08:37:59 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on August 12, 2019, 07:42:41 PM
You need to push harder, until it starts smoking. Maybe throw a handful of gravel in there, to cut in real deep.

I have an angle grinder.  Will that work?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 12, 2019, 08:39:05 PM
Quote from: Submariner on August 12, 2019, 08:37:59 PM
I have an angle grinder.  Will that work?

Yes, that will really clean the paint off.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 12, 2019, 08:53:27 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on August 12, 2019, 08:39:05 PM
Yes, that will really clean the paint off.

Nice
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 12, 2019, 10:02:25 PM
That is a massive improvement.  I bet it looks great in natural sunlight, and those small spider webs will be unnoticable to the casual/consumer eye.

However.

Think of buffing like you do sanding wood.  To get the best finish, you start with 80 or 100 grit and end with 800 or 1,000...you can't expect to get the same results if you only start at the higher end.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 13, 2019, 11:32:08 PM
I never got around to finishing the polish.  My wife left the garage door open for several hours today.  I inspected the surface with my LED spotlight and it doesn't appear much dust made its way onto the surface.  Can I dust it with a cloth to remove any contaminates or do I have to wash the car again?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 14, 2019, 03:09:29 AM
Quote from: Submariner on August 13, 2019, 11:32:08 PM
I never got around to finishing the polish.  My wife left the garage door open for several hours today.  I inspected the surface with my LED spotlight and it doesn't appear much dust made its way onto the surface.  Can I dust it with a cloth to remove any contaminates or do I have to wash the car again?

Yes, that should be just fine. Slightly dampen the cloth or use some spray detailer to aid in dust pickup. :ohyeah:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: BimmerM3 on August 15, 2019, 08:39:00 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on August 10, 2019, 04:35:11 AM
From a few messages back:Semi-weekly = twice/week. Technically wrong to use bi-weekly for both.
But people still use it for both.

I agree that it should be incorrect to use "biweekly" to mean "twice per week," but every dictionary I've looked at lists both definitions, though Wiktionary tries to make a stronger distinction than the others I've seen in their usage notes. 

According to Merriam-Webster, that ambiguity has existed for nearly 150 years (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/biweekly), and they elaborate on the distinction further here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/on-biweekly-and-bimonthly
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 16, 2019, 09:57:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nucmYrs.jpg)

Pretty pleased with how this came out.  The fine scratches were much less noticeable in the sun than they were under my LED spotlights.  The scratch that prompted this paint correction is much less noticeable, though next time I think I would go with Meg's light cut (as they put it, a "5/10" on their cut scale) rather than the "3/10" swirl remover.

I tried the light cut polish to remove hard water marks but to no avail.  I'm going to have to try a more abrasive pad and compound.  Those goddamn stains just won't die.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 16, 2019, 10:04:28 PM
I don't see any water marks. :cheers:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 16, 2019, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on August 16, 2019, 10:04:28 PM
I don't see any water marks. :cheers:

lol.  On the last page (or a page before that) I posted a picture of them.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 22, 2019, 09:12:32 AM
:rockon:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 22, 2019, 09:21:03 AM
Next project:

(https://i.imgur.com/RIUp3jg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JZI46xa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UG5BWFK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/E4vbnVE.jpg)

This paint is in much more dire shape than the paint on the last car.  I have some Meg's professional fine cut polish; by their parlance a 5/10 on the 'cut scale'.  I only have a light cut pad at the moment and I'm going to stick to it for now.  I also have a bottle of Meg's medium (7/10 cut) polish.  Is that too aggressive or would I be safe using it with the light cut pad?

One more question about the sander.  This is the one I have: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-3-Amp-5-in-Corded-Variable-Speed-Random-Orbital-Sander-with-Dust-Bag-BO5041/205671780?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CD25T%7C25-9_PORTABLE+POWER%7CNA%7CLIA

Whenever I apply even moderate pressure, the pad seems to stop rotating, though it still vibrates a good deal.  Is this normal? 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 22, 2019, 09:25:52 AM
Oh, and I used some of that fine cut polish and the pad to try and remove the water stains.  They wouldn't come off.  WTF?  I'm thinking 10mm Auto next.  That ought to work right?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 22, 2019, 09:32:41 AM
Quote from: Submariner on August 22, 2019, 09:21:03 AM
This paint is in much more dire shape than the paint on the last car.  I have some Meg's professional fine cut polish; by their parlance a 5/10 on the 'cut scale'.  I only have a light cut pad at the moment and I'm going to stick to it for now.  I also have a bottle of Meg's medium (7/10 cut) polish.  Is that too aggressive or would I be safe using it with the light cut pad?

One more question about the sander.  This is the one I have: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-3-Amp-5-in-Corded-Variable-Speed-Random-Orbital-Sander-with-Dust-Bag-BO5041/205671780?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CD25T%7C25-9_PORTABLE+POWER%7CNA%7CLIA

Whenever I apply even moderate pressure, the pad seems to stop rotating, though it still vibrates a good deal.  Is this normal? 

Nah, you'd be fine using a medium cut with a light cut pad...won't get quite the same results as a heavier cut pad, but yeah.  Totally safe.  Diamond Cut (their 10/10 on the scale) is really quite good.  And also safe.  Makes quick work of stuff like that with a wool or heavy-cut foam pad.

And yes, that's the case with any random orbit polisher/sander, and that's part of what makes them so safe to use (the other part being that the random-orbit helps to not build up heat).  That's why I like my forced-action random orbit...I can apply pressure when I want/need to and it will not stop rotating or orbiting.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 22, 2019, 09:45:44 AM
When it comes to applying pressure, you generally just want to let the tool do the work.  If you feel the need to always apply more than light pressure to get the results you desire, you're better off upping to a harder cut pad/compound to let them do the work.  Typically the weight of the tool is all I use, besides of course when you're doing side/vertical panels and you need to hold the tool to the paint.

Also hot damn, that thing does bare minimum 4k opm?  Make sure to keep it moving on the paint.  That thing is obviously...a sander.  And not a polisher, so it has really short, fast throws and not a whole lot of spin, whereas a random-orbit polisher will have longer throws and much more spin.  With sanding, you want to sand in straight lines, with the grain.  For paint, the spin is what does most of the work, the oscillations just help keep the work surface cooler.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 22, 2019, 09:59:43 AM
Serves me right for listening to the idiot at HD.  Though to be fair there is a section in the manual that dosucces car polishing.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 22, 2019, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Submariner on August 22, 2019, 09:59:43 AM
Serves me right for listening to the idiot at HD.  Though to be fair there is a section in the manual that dosucces car polishing.

Yeah, I mean, you can certainly use it for polishing and clearly it works.  Just not the "ideal" tool for the job, that's all.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 22, 2019, 07:15:05 PM
Two questions:

a.) can I use the same compound and pad to buff shiny black plastic trim?

b.) how should I ventilate when polishing?  The bottle warns of "chemicals linked to cancer" (the less aggressive compounds don't!).  Would a simple fan be enough?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 23, 2019, 07:25:43 AM
Quote from: Submariner on August 22, 2019, 07:15:05 PM
a.) can I use the same compound and pad to buff shiny black plastic trim?

Perhaps?  Depends on the material.  Is it clear-coated?  Buffing compound is not meant for plastic trim.

Quote
b.) how should I ventilate when polishing?  The bottle warns of "chemicals linked to cancer" (the less aggressive compounds don't!).  Would a simple fan be enough?

Nothing to worry about.  A fan is fine, just don't point it at the work surface because it'll cause it to dry out quicker.  I never worry about ventilation.  Haven't died yet. :huh:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 25, 2019, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on August 23, 2019, 07:25:43 AM
Perhaps?  Depends on the material.  Is it clear-coated?  Buffing compound is not meant for plastic trim.

I think so.  It looks like the plastic equivalent of piano black trim.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 25, 2019, 08:53:47 PM
I'm going to try using Simple Green on my brake dust. It probably won't work, but I don't want to use one of those strong wheel cleaners on my crappy spray paint job.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 26, 2019, 05:04:32 PM
Fucked up the job big time.  The polish I used was slightly more aggressive and didn't wipe off nearly as easily as the lighter cut.  Then, when I waxed, I must have used too much on the pad, as there are wax splatters everywhere that aren't coming off.  So I have polish residue under the wax, and since I only discovered it after I drove...ugh.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on August 26, 2019, 05:10:14 PM
Good news is the polish + pad still weren't too aggressive.  The parts I did properly look good.  But fuck me.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 26, 2019, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: Submariner on August 26, 2019, 05:04:32 PM
Fucked up the job big time.  The polish I used was slightly more aggressive and didn't wipe off nearly as easily as the lighter cut.  Then, when I waxed, I must have used too much on the pad, as there are wax splatters everywhere that aren't coming off.  So I have polish residue under the wax, and since I only discovered it after I drove...ugh.

Ahhhh don't sweat it.  Throw some 70% isopropyl alcohol in a spray bottle and grab a couple microfibers.  It'll come off. 

Whenever I do buffing/polishing, I go around with alcohol in between steps, or at least after all the buffing is done and the final layer (wax/sealant) is to be applied.  That way you know that the paint is just about as clean as it can be.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on August 26, 2019, 05:13:56 PM
Some spray detailer may also be enough to get it off, but alcohol is really good at breaking that shit down.  Mostly, it just needs to get wet again so it can un-solidify to be wiped off.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 26, 2019, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on August 26, 2019, 05:13:56 PM
Some spray detailer may also be enough to get it off, but alcohol is really good at breaking that shit down.  Mostly, it just needs to get wet again so it can un-solidify to be wiped off.

Alcohol? What if the car is just sober-curious?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on August 27, 2019, 10:49:27 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on August 26, 2019, 05:43:21 PM
Alcohol? What if the car is just sober-curious?

:golfclap:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on September 14, 2019, 09:26:02 AM
This was a good before/after.

(https://i.imgur.com/8ziRVS3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/a39OkIG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/K4zxnqg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NlAqNex.jpg)

The lady was so happy, she gave me a hug. lol
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 02, 2019, 11:50:00 AM
Had a Goldwing in ze shoppe today.  Mid-40s this morning, so a bit chilly for the guy to ride it over, but he lives just across town.  And the thing has heated grips and seats, soooo.  And reverse...wtf. :lol:

(https://i.imgur.com/9Wf1ArL.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 02, 2019, 12:08:41 PM
Without reverse trying to backup one of those things with short legs is impossible. You have to park facing uphill.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 02, 2019, 12:10:17 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 02, 2019, 12:08:41 PM
Without reverse trying to backup one of those things with short legs is impossible. You have to park facing uphill.

I can imagine.  I rolled it fore/aft a few times to get all the way around the wheels...friggin' tank!  And yeah, I could see shorter legs being a real issue.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 02, 2019, 12:12:01 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 02, 2019, 12:10:17 PM
I can imagine.  I rolled it fore/aft a few times to get all the way around the wheels...friggin' tank!  And yeah, I could see shorter legs being a real issue.

I have a 29 inch inseam, so I had to one-leg backup my VStrom. It wasn't that heavy, though.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Speed_Racer on October 02, 2019, 12:23:52 PM
It has like an 800+ lb wet weight, at least the weight is located down low if it even matters. Beast
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 02, 2019, 12:26:17 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 02, 2019, 12:12:01 PM
I have a 29 inch inseam, so I had to one-leg backup my VStrom. It wasn't that heavy, though.

You would love 230L.  32" seat height, even lower once you have your weight on it and the squishy suspension sags.

But yeah, this guy was a bit shorter than me, certainly has shorter legs.  Garage floor was still wet when he was backing it out...his feets slipped trying to get traction pushing back on his tippy toes...he threw it in reverse. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 03, 2019, 07:04:27 PM
Went on an Expedition today.  Detailin' the same guy's RAM POWER WAGGIN tomorrow.  Where do people get this money? :lol:

(https://i.imgur.com/tg6nsiE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/S8AVC23.jpg)



Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 04, 2019, 05:31:03 PM
POWER WAGGIN.  10k miles, easy job, just big.  Locking front/rear diffs, factory Warn winch, electronical disconnect for sway barz.  Quite the rig if you like 'em big.

Even had a "WAZZU - GO COUGS" license plate frame.

(https://i.imgur.com/KQYumtC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rKIDuMp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Sh0WAJY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/551Ga13.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on October 07, 2019, 03:28:17 PM
Should have a "GOT CIALIS" decal in equally as large, gaudy print.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 08, 2019, 04:27:31 PM
Very good shape for a 2012.  Only noticeable rust happening so far is the bottom lip of the tailgate.  Tailgates/rear ends of vehicles get the worst of the worst in the winter and are usually first to start to rust, besides maybe fender lips depending on the vehicle.

(https://i.imgur.com/r1CSzCX.jpg)

odd angle, wtf
(https://i.imgur.com/gpiD8Wx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/eADqY8a.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KNavlEF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/a7j9Nqp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/t9JTTnL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JEDCmgJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3X1q89V.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on October 09, 2019, 01:21:31 PM
Looks great.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 09, 2019, 01:49:41 PM
Thank you!

One issue I have with WeatherTech mats is that they seem to be slightly porous.  Some stains, especially right along the ridges or where the driver's foot rests, don't like to come out. But I don't like to put any sort of dressing on them to "cover" it because slippery floormats are dangerous, IMO, especially for the driver.

:hmm:

I douse them in degreaser and scrub them with a wheel brush and Dawn water.  Maybe I need to try something stronger, like foamy engine degreaser.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 10, 2019, 09:14:44 AM
I got grey weather techs for the Bolt and it was a bad idea. Dirt shows up immediately.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 10, 2019, 09:34:14 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 10, 2019, 09:14:44 AM
I got grey weather techs for the Bolt and it was a bad idea. Dirt shows up immediately.

So... Black?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 10, 2019, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 10, 2019, 09:34:14 AM
So... Black?

Also stains over time.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 16, 2019, 08:42:15 AM
Meguiar's Wheel Brightener is the shiiiiiiit.

(https://i.imgur.com/64P9YhC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vdTMzcX.jpg)

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 16, 2019, 10:25:53 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 16, 2019, 08:42:15 AM
Meguiar's Wheel Brightener is the shiiiiiiit.

(https://i.imgur.com/64P9YhC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vdTMzcX.jpg)

I need to use that stuff on my whole truck. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 16, 2019, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 16, 2019, 10:25:53 AM
I need to use that stuff on my whole truck. :lol:

I'd be a liar if I told you I never used some mixed in with my soapy wash water.  I think they should just change the name to Clear Coat Brightener.

I use it a lot on lower portions of vehicles' paint to help lift road film. I mean, it is 100% safe for clear coat and hasn't negatively affected any material IME.  Except if you spill some on concrete and leave it there to dry...it'll leave a little stain. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 16, 2019, 10:45:04 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 16, 2019, 10:43:27 AM
I'd be a liar if I told you I never used some mixed in with my soapy wash water.  I think they should just change the name to Clear Coat Brightener.

I use it a lot on lower portions of vehicles' paint to help lift road film. I mean, it is 100% safe for clear coat and hasn't negatively affected any material IME.  Except if you spill some on concrete and leave it there to dry...it'll leave a little stain. :lol:

My truck doesn't even have clearcoat. It is unsanded, white Rustoleum.  :muffin:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 16, 2019, 10:49:43 AM
Oh.  Well.  It would probably still be safe.  Manufacturers of car cleaning products have to say many things to convince people that their car won't start on fire if they accidentally get X Product on Y Surface.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 21, 2019, 02:44:49 PM
Ahhh I love me some black paint.  Wetsanded and buffed the headlights as well.

(https://i.imgur.com/jgk9qAs.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0yKdScc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MxTxEzX.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/u2ghtit.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iQvGqn6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qkanQa0.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 25, 2019, 02:10:30 PM
Another good one. '99 Wrangler. Paint was pretty faded, gave it a little buffin' and it shined right back up. Another happy customer.  License plate: LUV24WL

(https://i.imgur.com/CDOZWoG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RVcXqzo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/apYuuf9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Tw4PTQU.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on October 25, 2019, 02:28:51 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 25, 2019, 02:10:30 PM
Another good one. '99 Wrangler. Paint was pretty faded, gave it a little buffin' and it shined right back up. Another happy customer.  License plate: LUV24WL


(https://i.imgur.com/Tw4PTQU.jpg)

Great job.  Too bad the rear bumper spoils the looks.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 25, 2019, 02:51:56 PM
That and the really faded plastics.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 29, 2019, 08:41:25 AM
On today's episode of "You Should've Just Had An Abortion."

(https://i.imgur.com/lHcIJK2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 29, 2019, 09:24:54 AM
Good luck! Def wanna see the after pics
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 29, 2019, 09:36:09 AM
It's uhhh...comin along.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on October 29, 2019, 09:41:53 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 29, 2019, 08:41:25 AM
On today's episode of "You Should've Just Had An Abortion."

(https://i.imgur.com/lHcIJK2.jpg)

Do they have a pet pig?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 29, 2019, 09:52:08 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 29, 2019, 09:41:53 AM
Do they have a pet pig?

"Pig" is probably the accurate word for their kids. And it's not like the front seats are any better.

Filthy people produce filthy kids.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on October 29, 2019, 10:50:55 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 29, 2019, 08:41:25 AM
On today's episode of "You Should've Just Had An Abortion."

(https://i.imgur.com/lHcIJK2.jpg)


Jesus.  How the fuck can someone be (or let their child be) that disgusting?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 29, 2019, 11:12:40 AM
It didn't really come clean.

If you wear the same pants every day and never wash them, they become perma-stained. Upholstery is no different.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on October 29, 2019, 11:42:38 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 29, 2019, 09:52:08 AM
"Pig" is probably the accurate word for their kids. And it's not like the front seats are any better.

Filthy people produce filthy kids.
Do you charge extra for a vehicle that messy?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: RomanChariot on October 29, 2019, 11:46:35 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 29, 2019, 08:41:25 AM
On today's episode of "You Should've Just Had An Abortion."

(https://i.imgur.com/lHcIJK2.jpg)

You would obviously know the situation better than me but that looks more like they have a dog(s). Children small enough to walk on the seats should be in toddler seats which would prevent them from walking on the regular seats with muddy shoes. Of course, people that let their car get like that often aren't responsible parents.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 29, 2019, 11:51:43 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 29, 2019, 11:42:38 AM
Do you charge extra for a vehicle that messy?

Absolutely. It's more of my time and takes extra effort.

It's rare that I get a vehicle this dirty, but it does happen.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 29, 2019, 11:52:10 AM
Quote from: RomanChariot on October 29, 2019, 11:46:35 AM
You would obviously know the situation better than me but that looks more like they have a dog(s). Children small enough to walk on the seats should be in toddler seats which would prevent them from walking on the regular seats with muddy shoes. Of course, people that let their car get like that often aren't responsible parents.

Both.  There was also a decent amount of dog hair.  Lots of evidence of kids...crayons, toy pieces, candy/wrappers, sucker sticks.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 29, 2019, 12:44:14 PM
But. She is a really nice lady.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on October 29, 2019, 03:04:10 PM
How do you get weather tech floormats clean? Like 95% of everything just wipes off, but on the tan ones I have, they leave like water marks.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 29, 2019, 03:14:39 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 29, 2019, 03:04:10 PM
How do you get weather tech floormats clean? Like 95% of everything just wipes off, but on the tan ones I have, they leave like water marks.

My cleaning process for any rubber/plastic mat is to rinse it, spray it down with degreaser, scrub with soapy water and a wheel brush, then final rinse. I dry them by just leaning them up against the wall or garage door so the water can drip off while I continue with the rest of the interior cleaning.

If there's anything left over, some interior cleaner and a rag should take care of it. Just be careful as some interior cleaners may leave them slippery...not ideal for floor mats IMO. Or just use some more degreaser and a rag for a final wipedown.

They stain over time and will never come 100% clean at a certain point, so if that's what you mean...not much you can do. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 29, 2019, 05:01:16 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 29, 2019, 03:04:10 PM
How do you get weather tech floormats clean? Like 95% of everything just wipes off, but on the tan ones I have, they leave like water marks.

Tan spray paint
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Laconian on October 29, 2019, 07:57:23 PM
You support America by buying new mats. :neverforget:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: r0tor on November 03, 2019, 10:52:01 AM
Oh f*&$ a can of white spray paint fell over or froze in the garage and emptied itself on the garage floor and RX8... Ugh
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 03, 2019, 10:54:41 AM
Quote from: r0tor on November 03, 2019, 10:52:01 AM
Oh f*&$ a can of white spray paint fell over or froze in the garage and emptied itself on the garage floor and RX8... Ugh

Oh nooo. How badly did it get on the car? Pix?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on November 03, 2019, 11:22:49 AM
Quote from: r0tor on November 03, 2019, 10:52:01 AM
Oh f*&$ a can of white spray paint fell over or froze in the garage and emptied itself on the garage floor and RX8... Ugh
Shit :facepalm:.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 03, 2019, 01:22:29 PM
Time to repaint the whole thing.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 03, 2019, 01:48:07 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 03, 2019, 01:22:29 PM
Time to repaint the whole thing.

Might as well stick with white spray paint since it's already started. :huh:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: r0tor on November 03, 2019, 01:54:49 PM
Well I used up a ton of alcohol and meguiars scratch x... Seemed to work pretty well on the RX8. The front corner is now super super duper clean.

Garage floor is hosed though
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 03, 2019, 01:59:40 PM
Nice. Might as well do the whole car, then. ScratchX has good cleaning properties.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: r0tor on November 03, 2019, 02:26:48 PM
I do love scratch x for removing sap and bird shit stains
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 06, 2019, 03:42:17 PM
Yeep.

(https://i.imgur.com/XQ4cnwK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pRNzi3Z.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TqvAuwU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DPXBtXV.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on November 07, 2019, 10:25:59 AM
lol the metallic makes it look horribly orange-peeled at first
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 07, 2019, 11:02:51 AM
I dislike metallic black. Go big or go home when it comes to black.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 13, 2019, 07:29:28 PM
Equal knocks.

(https://i.imgur.com/x2MU9zo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vq4TIWL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cEhd794.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 13, 2019, 07:30:59 PM
Also, if anyone is looking for a great tire dressing available in stores...Meguiar's Endurance Gloss.  Good, sticky shit. Not good if you live on a dusty dirt road, but otherwise great.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 14, 2019, 07:27:00 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 13, 2019, 07:30:59 PM
Also, if anyone is looking for a great tire dressing available in stores...Meguiar's Endurance Gloss.  Good, sticky shit. Not good if you live on a dusty dirt road, but otherwise great.

Bacon grease works good, too. I think that's what the detail guys use here.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on November 14, 2019, 07:46:30 AM
Am I the only person who hates tire dressing?  Looks silly.  It's rubber, it's not supposed to look slimey.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 14, 2019, 08:29:47 AM
Quote from: MrH on November 14, 2019, 07:46:30 AM
Am I the only person who hates tire dressing?  Looks silly.  It's rubber, it's not supposed to look slimey.

There's certainly a boundary. I don't like the slimey look, either. A deep black with a hint of shine is ideal IMO. That's why I use Meg's Hyper Dressing. Water-based and dillutable for varying shine levels spraying out of a spray bottle. Also, if your tire dressing seems to slimey, apply it, and then go back and wipe it off after to give it a matte, deep black finish without the slime.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 14, 2019, 05:50:50 PM
This truck belongs to the owner of the local car wash. She's a cool lady.

(https://i.imgur.com/UPj0YuB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/glf0cuO.jpg)

I love outdoor shots with snow on the ground.

(https://i.imgur.com/o3m7r12.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on November 14, 2019, 05:56:37 PM
Are you still getting a lot of business?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 14, 2019, 06:00:44 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 14, 2019, 05:56:37 PM
Are you still getting a lot of business?

Ehhh not really. Slow season is upon me. November is filled, but it's pretty much blank after Thanksgiving. I am doing snowblowing again this year for a few people and will take whatever detailing I can get.  Gift certificates are a good revenue stream for me in the holiday season.  But yeah...winter is pretty dead for detailing around here. The second you drive away, it's dirty again.  That's why spring and summer are so so busy.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on November 15, 2019, 07:53:25 AM
Those wheels are so bad.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 15, 2019, 07:58:07 AM
Quote from: MrH on November 15, 2019, 07:53:25 AM
Those wheels are so bad.

Black Widow package is indeed pretty gaudy. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on November 15, 2019, 07:58:45 AM
Wait, that's a package offered by Chevy?!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 15, 2019, 08:05:51 AM
Quote from: MrH on November 15, 2019, 07:58:45 AM
Wait, that's a package offered by Chevy?!

I don't think it's from GM itself, but it is a dealer-installed package series, AFAIK.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 15, 2019, 08:06:34 AM
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/02/sca-performance-introduces-chevrolet-silverado-1500-black-widow/
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on November 15, 2019, 08:18:34 AM
 :cry:

I weep for this country.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 15, 2019, 09:04:36 AM
Mods, plz move this to the Politics subforum.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: r0tor on November 15, 2019, 01:36:16 PM
She must have a very small penis
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 15, 2019, 03:47:30 PM
Highly recommend.

https://drillbrush.com/
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 15, 2019, 04:12:28 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 15, 2019, 03:47:30 PM
Highly recommend.

https://drillbrush.com/

Do they have one for shoving into people's mouths when they have bad breath?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on November 15, 2019, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 15, 2019, 04:12:28 PM
Do they have one for shoving into people's mouths when they have bad breath?

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSW1tp1ZHzmfA5TxOsxeWXOSYtlRbxf0r2a_JultLx9SdFTbf9Y)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 15, 2019, 04:17:31 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 15, 2019, 04:16:44 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSW1tp1ZHzmfA5TxOsxeWXOSYtlRbxf0r2a_JultLx9SdFTbf9Y)

That looks more like my toilet brush, but same/same. Does it come with mouth soap?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 21, 2019, 12:57:52 PM
I need a spray on, hose off degreaser/cleaner for engines, under carriages, and durty wheels.
I was going to buy some P21S, but it's damn $67 for 5 liters. So I ordered a gallon of 3D Yellow Degreaser for $25. Will try it out. If nothing else, maybe I can use it to clean the bathroom.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on November 21, 2019, 01:44:23 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 21, 2019, 12:57:52 PM
I need a spray on, hose off degreaser/cleaner for engines, under carriages, and durty wheels.
I was going to buy some P21S, but it's damn $67 for 5 liters. So I ordered a gallon of 3D Yellow Degreaser for $25. Will try it out. If nothing else, maybe I can use it to clean the bathroom.

I've heard 3D Yellow is also a great colon cleanse.  You should try it out!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 21, 2019, 02:54:45 PM
Quote from: Submariner on November 21, 2019, 01:44:23 PM
I've heard 3D Yellow is also a great colon cleanse.  You should try it out!

But can I use Super Colon Blow to degrease my engine?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: RomanChariot on November 21, 2019, 03:28:43 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 21, 2019, 02:54:45 PM
But can I use Super Colon Blow to degrease my engine?
It depends on whether your applicator can reach the proper pressure.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 21, 2019, 03:56:15 PM
Quote from: RomanChariot on November 21, 2019, 03:28:43 PM
It depends on whether your applicator can reach the proper pressure.

It is usually served in a bowl with milk.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: RomanChariot on November 21, 2019, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 21, 2019, 03:56:15 PM
It is usually served in a bowl with milk.

That doesn't seem like an effective application method. It should probably be run through a processor that can properly break the mixture down to a pulp and then shot out through an appropriately sized orifice by a medium to high pressure peristaltic pump.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 21, 2019, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: RomanChariot on November 21, 2019, 04:20:25 PM
That doesn't seem like an effective application method. It should probably be run through a processor that can properly break the mixture down to a pulp and then shot out through an appropriately sized orifice by a medium to high pressure peristaltic pump.

Peristaltic? That sounds painful.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: RomanChariot on November 21, 2019, 04:24:39 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 21, 2019, 04:21:40 PM
Peristaltic? That sounds painful.

Yes, but it provides positive displacement for greater volume delivery.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 21, 2019, 05:35:23 PM
Quote from: RomanChariot on November 21, 2019, 04:24:39 PM
Yes, but it provides positive displacement for greater volume delivery.

Positive? Greater volume? Those sound like good things. I'll take two!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on November 22, 2019, 07:56:19 AM
Quote from: RomanChariot on November 21, 2019, 04:20:25 PM
That doesn't seem like an effective application method. It should probably be run through a processor that can properly break the mixture down to a pulp and then shot out through an appropriately sized orifice by a medium to high pressure peristaltic pump.

You had me at "orifice."
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on December 06, 2019, 10:37:45 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/OFpYBrY.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 06, 2019, 10:52:05 AM
Followup on 3D Yellow degreaser.
I mixed it 1:1 with water in a liter spray bottle and soaked my truck down. I while keeping it wet, it scrubbed it down with a stiff brush. Then I rinsed. And rinsed. And rinsed. And rinsed. Yeah, so I didn't read the instructions and 1:1 was way too strong. Other than that, it worked great, especially on my tires and wheels.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on December 06, 2019, 11:52:24 AM
Those foam cannons any good?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on December 06, 2019, 12:18:48 PM
Quote from: Submariner on December 06, 2019, 11:52:24 AM
Those foam cannons any good?

They are virtually pointless.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on December 06, 2019, 12:21:03 PM
Elaboration on why they are pointless:

1) You still have to wash the car, so you're just wasting your time by adding an extra, unnecessary step.
2) See above.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on December 06, 2019, 12:25:03 PM
And yes. I bought one years ago and used it multiple times. There is no benefit besides maybe as a pre-soak on an extra dirty vehicle. At which point, you should take the damn foam cannon off of your pressure washer and just use your pressure washer to get the junk off as it will actually remove it before you wash.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 06, 2019, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: Submariner on December 06, 2019, 11:52:24 AM
Those foam cannons any good?

They are good if you hire a bikini girl.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: afty on December 07, 2019, 11:02:35 AM
My daughter opened the car door into a concrete pillar  :rage:

(https://i.imgur.com/9dCiAlO.jpg)

There's a small chip in the paint there.  How do I fix it? 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 07, 2019, 01:32:47 PM
Quote from: afty on December 07, 2019, 11:02:35 AM
My daughter opened the car door into a concrete pillar  :rage:

(https://i.imgur.com/9dCiAlO.jpg)

There's a small chip in the paint there.  How do I fix it?

Looks like black paint.  A Sharpie is close enough :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on December 11, 2019, 05:31:02 AM
tiny, tiny, dollops of paint on the end of a toothpick. Build them up allowing to cure between each, until they're just above the paint level - as they cure they'll shrink back down.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on December 11, 2019, 07:56:25 AM
I use a water color brush to touch up spots on the El Camino.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 04, 2020, 04:40:45 PM
2000 grit wetsand. Cutting pad and Meg's Diamond Cut. Polishing pad and Wizard's Finish Cut. Hand wax.

Badda bing badda boom.

(https://i.imgur.com/pUZ7TkK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jJhkc5C.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on March 04, 2020, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 04, 2020, 04:40:45 PM
2000 grit wetsand. Cutting pad and Meg's Diamond Cut. Polishing pad and Wizard's Finish Cut. Hand wax.

Badda bing badda boom.

(https://i.imgur.com/pUZ7TkK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jJhkc5C.jpg)

I was looking at the paint, thinking you did a turrrrible job.
Oh, the headlight. :lol:

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 04, 2020, 04:49:48 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on March 04, 2020, 04:47:00 PM
I was looking at the paint, thinking you did a turrrrible job.
Oh, the headlight. :lol:



Yeah, this was just an interior detail plus headlight restoration. No washin or anything on da paint.

Headlights are an easy $25. Start to finish...maybe 20 minutes taking my sweet time.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on March 04, 2020, 05:21:37 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 04, 2020, 04:49:48 PM
Yeah, this was just an interior detail plus headlight restoration. No washin or anything on da paint.

Headlights are an easy $25. Start to finish...maybe 20 minutes taking my sweet time.
Hmmm, 75 bucks an hour.  Not bad. :ohyeah:

It does make an amazing difference to the appearance, as well as the function I would guess.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 04, 2020, 05:25:48 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on March 04, 2020, 05:21:37 PM
Hmmm, 75 bucks an hour.  Not bad. :ohyeah:

It does make an amazing difference to the appearance, as well as the function I would guess.

I think the function is most people's concern, indeed. Foggy/faded headlights is like wearing really dirty glasses...doesn't work well.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on March 04, 2020, 06:02:35 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 04, 2020, 05:25:48 PM
I think the function is most people's concern, indeed. Foggy/faded headlights is like wearing really dirty glasses...doesn't work well.
Do you promote it on your facebook?  Seems that it would be a popular service if some words about safety, etc. were used.  A shop/winter special?  Maybe some pictures.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 04, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on March 04, 2020, 06:02:35 PM
Do you promote it on your facebook?  Seems that it would be a popular service if some words about safety, etc. were used.  A shop/winter special?  Maybe some pictures.

It's on my website. It's not something that is terribly necessary or often sought after, but yeah. It's still a thing. The safety angle is a good idea, though...might have to promote it. Like I said, easy $25.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 23, 2020, 08:51:24 AM
Spray-on ceramic coatings are really starting to annoy me. There are wayyyyy too many companies making the shit and now it's just a scramble for people on YouTube to keep doing side-by-side hood durability tests.

And guess what...almost none of them can actually make it through a few washes or some chemical cleaner.

Ceramic has never been and never will be the end all be all that everybody thinks it is. So tired of it.

Rant over. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on March 23, 2020, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 23, 2020, 08:51:24 AM
Spray-on ceramic coatings are really starting to annoy me. There are wayyyyy too many companies making the shit and now it's just a scramble for people on YouTube to keep doing side-by-side hood durability tests.

And guess what...almost none of them can actually make it through a few washes or some chemical cleaner.

Ceramic has never been and never will be the end all be all that everybody thinks it is. So tired of it.

Rant over. :lol:

I like silicone. Nu Finish, or what have you. Turtle Wax Ice spray, whatever that is. Cheap and easy.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on March 29, 2020, 05:53:18 AM
About two months ago I drove off to work with a travel mug full of coffee still on the roof of the car.  I made it  2/10 mile (impressive balancing act) before it fell off - rolling back &  splashing some coffee on the roof, rear window & trunk lid.  Finally yesterday, after all the crappy weather & having been sick, I got around to cleaning it.

Lessoned learned: spilled coffee & half & half should be cleaned off ASAP, because it was a real struggle to get it off; the fat & protein in the half & half attach like superglue.

Meguiars Wax Cleaner did it, but it was touch & go whether to go for something stronger.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on March 31, 2020, 01:49:16 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 04, 2020, 04:49:48 PM
Yeah, this was just an interior detail plus headlight restoration. No washin or anything on da paint.

Headlights are an easy $25. Start to finish...maybe 20 minutes taking my sweet time.

Do you use any kind of breathing/eye protection while on the job?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 31, 2020, 04:23:41 PM
Quote from: Submariner on March 31, 2020, 01:49:16 PM
Do you use any kind of breathing/eye protection while on the job?

I do not, even though I probably should. I wear prescription glasses so safety glasses are super annoying...never had an issue, though.

Probably should wear a mask or something when using some of the harsher chemicals like wheel cleaner and carpet cleaner, but I just stay conscious of the fumes/vapors and not breathe them in as best I can.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 03, 2020, 11:10:12 AM
Yesterday, I detailed this Durango. Might be the last vehicle I do for a while. My Monday job canceled. Another person I had scheduled for later this month canceled because they winter in Flordia and will have to isolate when they return, which was when I was gonna do their car.

Plus, I'm not a life/death business, and I would hate for some bitchass to tattle on me. Sigh. Gotta follow the rules, gotta flatten da curve.

White paint...tons of rail dust. Spent 2.5 hours on the wash alone getting it off. That was the customer's biggest concern. She happily paid full price despite my offered Covid discount.

(https://i.imgur.com/B0AeeSy.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: shp4man on April 03, 2020, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 03, 2020, 11:10:12 AM
Yesterday, I detailed this Durango. Might be the last vehicle I do for a while. My Monday job canceled. Another person I had scheduled for later this month canceled because they winter in Flordia and will have to isolate when they return, which was when I was gonna do their car.

Plus, I'm not a life/death business, and I would hate for some bitchass to tattle on me. Sigh. Gotta follow the rules, gotta flatten da curve.

White paint...tons of rail dust. Spent 2.5 hours on the wash alone getting it off. That was the customer's biggest concern. She happily paid full price despite my offered Covid discount.

(https://i.imgur.com/B0AeeSy.jpg)

Ya, no more white cars for me.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 03, 2020, 12:03:00 PM
I still love white on the right cars. Sometimes I wish I did a satin/flat white on my El Camino instead of the satin black.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2020, 06:40:52 PM
Oof. Check out the orange peel on this brand new (3,000 miles) Ram.  Owner was driving in the woods, went to grab a beer from his cooler in the back, and slid a couple branches down the passenger side, so I'm doing a wash n wax and taking care of the scratches. But holy frickin' orange peel.

(https://i.imgur.com/pcYnzzJ.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 28, 2020, 11:34:26 PM
Also, I cannot recommend the Flex 3401 VRG buffer unit enough. It's a fixed-drive random-orbit. Best of both worlds. The power of a rotary when you need it, and the gentle RO for finishing for the finishing/waxing. It has been my daily for at least 6-7 years and it still rips.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 29, 2020, 01:02:27 AM
Collinite Insulator Wax #845 is the best wax I have ever used. Granted, this paint only has 3k miles on it, but. Fuck.

(https://i.imgur.com/EqIFk1u.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on February 10, 2021, 02:34:25 PM
I don't have a hose spigot at my town house, so I think I'll get one of these:

https://www.worx.com/20v-hydroshot-portable-power-cleaner-wg620.html

It's not nearly as much pressure as a real pressure washer, but I don't need high pressure to wash the cars. Low pressure is preferable, really.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on May 22, 2022, 03:47:53 PM
Bird pooped on my car on like Friday, cleaned it off today but it left residue. Not sure how to get it off. Might have to buff the paint? All of my detail spray, wax, clay bar didn't work
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on May 22, 2022, 05:36:53 PM
Well I can't find the spot this evening now that it's cloudy instead of direct sunlight...
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 22, 2022, 05:54:41 PM
Try soaking and wiping with rubbing alcohol.  Since it's relatively fresh it might be the ticket.  Otherwise, yeah, a buffjob should take care of it no problem.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Laconian on May 22, 2022, 10:36:41 PM
Do you do fiberglass repair? What are your favorite tools for that?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 22, 2022, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: Laconian on May 22, 2022, 10:36:41 PM
Do you do fiberglass repair? What are your favorite tools for that?

Never done fiberglass before.  I've detailed a handful of boats in my day, but never been asked to repair anything, and I'd say "no" anyways because I don't do repairs/body work and have no experience in it. :lol:

From what I've seen, though, you want some squeegees like you'd use for Bondo to spread the resin and some rollers (like roller paintbrushes, but the roller's just plastic or metal) to pack down and form it.  Beyond that...no idea.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 01, 2022, 07:36:59 PM
Autotragic LS1 Boomer mobile.

(https://i.postimg.cc/j5LZXJbh/PXL-20220601-191332934.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 01, 2022, 07:41:12 PM
I would rock that as a winter beater. Don't want my Jeep to get rusty.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 09, 2022, 08:54:35 AM
Seeing pics on Reddit of hand sanitizer damage to steering wheels & interior surfaces. Stay away from that stuff.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 09, 2022, 10:48:58 AM
Hand sanitizer, sunscreen, bug spray, some lotions...all potentially bad for interior surfaces.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 09, 2022, 12:57:51 PM
Fast fact: I use WD-40 to clean shit, including my hands. Safe for most surfaces? I dunno. I like the smell.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on July 09, 2022, 03:14:28 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 09, 2022, 10:48:58 AM
Hand sanitizer, sunscreen, bug spray, some lotions...all potentially bad for interior surfaces.
Patina. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 09, 2022, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 09, 2022, 03:14:28 PM
Patina.

I get into way too many interiors with "patina". I mean, I'm not a neat freak, but some peoples' cars are just disgusting.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 09, 2022, 03:45:37 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on July 09, 2022, 03:23:30 PM
I get into way too many interiors with "patina". I mean, I'm not a neat freak, but some peoples' cars are just disgusting.

Can confirm.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on July 10, 2022, 06:19:52 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 09, 2022, 10:48:58 AM
Hand sanitizer, sunscreen, bug spray, some lotions...all potentially bad for interior surfaces.


The hi-DEET bug juice I use camping literally melted the color off the interior pieces on the Land Cruiser.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 10, 2022, 10:11:57 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 10, 2022, 06:19:52 AM

The hi-DEET bug juice I use camping literally melted the color off the interior pieces on the Land Cruiser.

Yeeeep. DEET loves to destroy plastics. That's why people use bug spray as a "hack" to clean up clouded plastic headlights. Just eats it away.

I wish DEET worked better. Backwoods mosquitoes give zero fucks about it. Even the crazy 98% DEET stuff. No worky.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 10, 2022, 10:27:44 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 09, 2022, 03:14:28 PM
Patina.

I can tell when people (usually women) wear lots of lotion or makeup. Gets caked all over the spots that are frequently touched.  Gearshift, arm rest, blinker/wiper stalks, the volume knob on the radio, their favorite resting position on the steering wheel, etc.  Usually doesn't leave any damage, but man is that stuff a PITA to clean off completely after months/years of buildup.

You can learn a lot about people from detailing their cars. lol
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 10, 2022, 11:00:47 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 10, 2022, 10:27:44 AM
I can tell when people (usually women) wear lots of lotion or makeup. Gets caked all over the spots that are frequently touched.  Gearshift, arm rest, blinker/wiper stalks, the volume knob on the radio, their favorite resting position on the steering wheel, etc.  Usually doesn't leave any damage, but man is that stuff a PITA to clean off completely after months/years of buildup.

You can learn a lot about people from detailing their cars. lol

Yeah, people are gross :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 12, 2022, 05:37:33 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 10, 2022, 10:11:57 AM
Yeeeep. DEET loves to destroy plastics. That's why people use bug spray as a "hack" to clean up clouded plastic headlights. Just eats it away.

I wish DEET worked better. Backwoods mosquitoes give zero fucks about it. Even the crazy 98% DEET stuff. No worky.
I've not tried it, but someone on the trails maintenance team here gave me a bottle of this: https://www.sawyer.com/products/picaridin-insect-repellent

More: https://www.outdoors.org/resources/amc-outdoors/health-and-safety/picaridin-vs-deet-which-is-the-best-insect-repellent


Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on July 12, 2022, 07:54:05 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 12, 2022, 05:37:33 AM
I've not tried it, but someone on the trails maintenance team here gave me a bottle of this: https://www.sawyer.com/products/picaridin-insect-repellent

More: https://www.outdoors.org/resources/amc-outdoors/health-and-safety/picaridin-vs-deet-which-is-the-best-insect-repellent




insect repellants that work elsewhere don't seem to faze the kinds of bugs they get in the UP.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 12, 2022, 10:10:56 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 12, 2022, 07:54:05 AM
insect repellants that work elsewhere don't seem to faze the kinds of bugs they get in the UP.

They work well enough around town where the skeeters are smaller and far fewer in numbers. But way out in the woods...pants and long sleeves are better protection than bug spray, though still not perfect when you're constantly swarmed by like 50 of the little monsters buzzing around all over you taking stabs to find any spot of clothing that's tight against your skin.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 12, 2022, 03:43:51 PM
I react really badly to chigger bites. They come out in June here (GA,) work their way up your legs to the crotch & inner thigh and burrow in. It's awful. The best defense is to stay out of the brush during their season.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 12, 2022, 08:52:35 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 12, 2022, 10:10:56 AM
They work well enough around town where the skeeters are smaller and far fewer in numbers. But way out in the woods...pants and long sleeves are better protection than bug spray, though still not perfect when you're constantly swarmed by like 50 of the little monsters buzzing around all over you taking stabs to find any spot of clothing that's tight against your skin.

When I went canoeing in the boundary waters, the mosquitoes could bite through any thick clothing except my heavy rain gear that was literally 1/8" plastic. Thick wool socks, pants, etc were no match for those crazy long mouth beaks.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on July 13, 2022, 07:37:20 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 12, 2022, 08:52:35 PM
When I went canoeing in the boundary waters, the mosquitoes could bite through any thick clothing except my heavy rain gear that was literally 1/8" plastic. Thick wool socks, pants, etc were no match for those crazy long mouth beaks.

Yep.  I had the best luck with an Army gore tex jacket.  That was about the only thing I found that could keep them off during long portages. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 13, 2022, 07:48:42 AM
I wonder if a beekeeper suit would be effective. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on July 13, 2022, 08:32:52 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 13, 2022, 07:48:42 AM
I wonder if a beekeeper suit would be effective. :lol:
Or a hazmat suit.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 15, 2022, 11:28:40 AM
I claybarred the Mazda the other day. Its reputation for thin & easily-chipped paint is well earned. Fantastic color, but c'mon guys.
Also there's a barely visible mark left on the hood from bird shit - whatever's in their digestive system is bad news for paint finishes.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 15, 2022, 06:04:28 PM
Bug guts and bird poop are acidic, so it etches into paint/clearcoat. Can try some rubbing compound on it if it isn't too bad. But if it's barely visible...meh.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 15, 2022, 06:29:23 PM
This stuff is awesome.  Works great on those road line paint oopsies, too (my main use for it).  I imagine it's some sort of mineral spirits or acetone-like stuff, but in a convenient aerosol that's safe for the average user.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS-wDiqG6OGzyuyAo5oD2M42wuAWkKWiJ8Pmx3Xj12v7FyACdlsZ2UCURQpXNw67xRNM-XOe1w&usqp=CAc)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 15, 2022, 07:02:10 PM
Does it strip the wax? I assume yes.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 15, 2022, 07:06:46 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 15, 2022, 07:02:10 PM
Does it strip the wax? I assume yes.

Oh absolutely it does. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 15, 2022, 07:10:32 PM
Also, they finally started making my favorite off-the-shelf tire shine in aerosol form.  Meguiar's Endurance.  Previously only available in gel form, which is fine for everyday road tires, but a total PITA for knobbier SUV/truck tires (as any gel is).  This shit rocks.  The instructions say to let it dry 15-20 minutes, but you're better off with an hour or two so it can soak and dry off to a finish like this.


(https://i.postimg.cc/Sjg93p1t/Snapchat-651187296.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sjg93p1t)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mhpcVyhv/PXL-20220715-211315449.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mhpcVyhv)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 15, 2022, 07:18:03 PM
Only downside to aerosol dressings is overspray, but it cleans off easy enough. I'm probably gonna make some cardboard cutouts of 17, 18, and 19 inch circles to hold on a wheel while applying spray tire dressings to save me the hassle.

Also, Meguiar's D16101 Silicone-free Dressing........avoid. It does not last at all on tires.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 16, 2022, 06:32:38 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 15, 2022, 07:18:03 PM
Only downside to aerosol dressings is overspray, but it cleans off easy enough. I'm probably gonna make some cardboard cutouts of 17, 18, and 19 inch circles to hold on a wheel while applying spray tire dressings to save me the hassle.

Also, Meguiar's D16101 Silicone-free Dressing........avoid. It does not last at all on tires.
Wheel Shields™
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 20, 2022, 03:39:04 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 16, 2022, 06:32:38 AM
Wheel Shields™

Not paying $30 apiece for a plastic circle with a handle on it. :lol:

If I want to get fancy, I could buy a couple sheets of lexan or something, cut circles, and mount cheap cabinet/drawer handles to them.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 20, 2022, 04:01:05 PM
Buff and wax on dis guy today.

(https://i.postimg.cc/g0ryYVGm/PXL-20220720-215636324.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/VLRXnG6z/PXL-20220720-215657531.jpg)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 20, 2022, 06:50:33 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 20, 2022, 03:39:04 PM
Not paying $30 apiece for a plastic circle with a handle on it. :lol:

If I want to get fancy, I could buy a couple sheets of lexan or something, cut circles, and mount cheap cabinet/drawer handles to them.
Could be a money maker: WheelShields™ brought to you by CarSPIN. Get a TV pitchman.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 23, 2022, 04:45:30 PM
Was looking at the contents of some tire shine I bought the other day (some Chemical Guys aerosol stuff, I like trying anything and everything), and it appears the main shine content comes from plain old mineral oil.

Hmmmmm.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 26, 2022, 12:34:41 AM
Anyone ever used mineral spirits for stuff like sap removal? I've always used isopropyl alcohol, but perhaps mineral spirits works better...and depending on who you ask on the internet it works better and is also (modern) clear coat safe. I don't have any sap on my truck to try it on, which is where I usually try out new products/techniques first.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 26, 2022, 06:01:10 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 23, 2022, 04:45:30 PM
Was looking at the contents of some tire shine I bought the other day (some Chemical Guys aerosol stuff, I like trying anything and everything), and it appears the main shine content comes from plain old mineral oil.

Hmmmmm.
Assuming it's okay on synthetic rubber, sing plain old mineral oil would cut your input costs nicely. Baby oil is probably the same stuff but scented.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 26, 2022, 06:27:51 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 26, 2022, 06:01:10 AM
Assuming it's okay on synthetic rubber, sing plain old mineral oil would cut your input costs nicely. Baby oil is probably the same stuff but scented.

Might buy a bottle and try it on my tires soon. The longevity and how much slings off (after proper drying time) is the real factor, so who knows what might be part of the formula that helps it stick.  "Silicone-free" dressings are generally best for rubber/plastic as silicone eats away at them to some degree (mineral oil contains silocone), but I don't think the rubbers and plastics we use for such things these days care much about that. And most silicone-free dressings are water-based. Which means they don't last long at all, especially the minute you drive in anything more than a drizzle.

I use silicone-free stuff on interiors because it leaves a nice, natural, non-greasy finish that I know won't be washed off right away and is 100% safe for plastics/vinyl. But for tires...fuck it, they can handle it.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on July 26, 2022, 08:24:38 AM
I've noticed parts of the dash in my 12-year-old G37 are tacky - almost sticky.
It's garaged & I have a fitted sunshade I use most times it's parked.
Age takes its toll.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 26, 2022, 01:22:41 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 26, 2022, 12:34:41 AM
Anyone ever used mineral spirits for stuff like sap removal? I've always used isopropyl alcohol, but perhaps mineral spirits works better...and depending on who you ask on the internet it works better and is also (modern) clear coat safe. I don't have any sap on my truck to try it on, which is where I usually try out new products/techniques first.

Ever try xylene? I don't know if it works on sap, but it works on a lot of stuff. Also, I like the smell.
I might eat some types of paint, but I have no idea.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on July 27, 2022, 07:39:37 AM
Dear Mr. YOUPEE,

You ever try AMMO NYC products?  They're the expensive stuff Larry Kosilla makes.  Seems like good products, just pricey?  Still much cheaper to buy everything and coat it myself than pay someone.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 27, 2022, 08:26:21 AM
Quote from: MrH on July 27, 2022, 07:39:37 AM
Dear Mr. YOUPEE,

You ever try AMMO NYC products?  They're the expensive stuff Larry Kosilla makes.  Seems like good products, just pricey?  Still much cheaper to buy everything and coat it myself than pay someone.

I have not tried any of their stuff.  Pricey indeed, but I'm sure they're decent. I'm not a $120 can of wax kinda guy. :lol:

I work on daily drivers, not Ferraris.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 27, 2022, 08:28:14 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on July 26, 2022, 01:22:41 PM
Ever try xylene? I don't know if it works on sap, but it works on a lot of stuff. Also, I like the smell.
I might eat some types of paint, but I have no idea.

Haven't used xylene for anything ever. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on July 27, 2022, 11:18:46 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 27, 2022, 08:28:14 AM
Haven't used xylene for anything ever. :lol:

i used it for urethane guns.

it basically acts like isopropyl alcohol, but it doesn't evaporate so fast.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on July 27, 2022, 06:23:07 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 27, 2022, 11:18:46 AM
i used it for urethane guns.

it basically acts like isopropyl alcohol, but it doesn't evaporate so fast.

Is it safe for paint? The downside to iso alcohol is that it evaporates so quickly. Which makes it great for window cleaning and general sticky-stuff removal, but it offers lower dwell time to work its magic.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 27, 2022, 07:19:44 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 27, 2022, 06:23:07 PM
Is it safe for paint? The downside to iso alcohol is that it evaporates so quickly. Which makes it great for window cleaning and general sticky-stuff removal, but it offers lower dwell time to work its magic.

I imagine it should be safe for paint, as long as you don't let it sit and soak. But I would test a small area, first.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 27, 2022, 07:30:41 PM
Come to think of it, I wonder if xylene will remove the grease stains embedded in Jeep's white paint. Specifically, around the driver door handle.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Soup DeVille on July 29, 2022, 11:51:28 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 27, 2022, 06:23:07 PM
Is it safe for paint? The downside to iso alcohol is that it evaporates so quickly. Which makes it great for window cleaning and general sticky-stuff removal, but it offers lower dwell time to work its magic.

I don't know.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on September 20, 2022, 05:29:13 AM
I gave my Infiniti its autumn detail the other day. It's very therapeutic. It did not need claybarring - just a cleaner/wax.
A few very minor dings & nicks commensurate with 12 years, but still in good shape.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on February 20, 2023, 10:43:25 AM
Any recommendations for squirt-on wheel cleaner? I bought some cheapolux stuff a while back it hasn't been good.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on February 20, 2023, 10:50:54 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 20, 2023, 10:43:25 AM
Any recommendations for squirt-on wheel cleaner? I bought some cheapolux stuff a while back it hasn't been good.

Been using this stuff for years and years.  $25/gallon, dilutes 4:1, so a gallon goes a long way.

https://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-d140-combo.html
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on February 21, 2023, 06:03:50 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 20, 2023, 10:50:54 AM
Been using this stuff for years and years.  $25/gallon, dilutes 4:1, so a gallon goes a long way.

https://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-d140-combo.html
Thanks! (Meguiar's products often feature towards top of people's lists.)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 04, 2023, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 21, 2023, 06:03:50 AM
Thanks! (Meguiar's products often feature towards top of people's lists.)

Their "consumer-grade" stuff that you get off the shelf at Walmart is better than most of the other consumer-grade stuff (brands like Eagle One come to mind...truly useless stuff IME).  And then their professional-grade stuff is really good and usually priced very, very well.  A lot of the stuff I use is from Meguiar's.  Wheel cleaner, window cleaner, polishing compounds, wash soap, and a few other odds and ends. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on March 06, 2023, 07:42:45 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 04, 2023, 02:51:37 PM
Their "consumer-grade" stuff that you get off the shelf at Walmart is better than most of the other consumer-grade stuff (brands like Eagle One come to mind...truly useless stuff IME).  And then their professional-grade stuff is really good and usually priced very, very well.  A lot of the stuff I use is from Meguiar's.  Wheel cleaner, window cleaner, polishing compounds, wash soap, and a few other odds and ends. 

Where do you buy the professional grade stuff?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 06, 2023, 08:18:35 AM
Quote from: MrH on March 06, 2023, 07:42:45 AM
Where do you buy the professional grade stuff?

autogeek.net

That's where I buy all the stuff I can't get locally.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 06, 2023, 08:41:52 AM
How often do you order stuff? I wonder if you could get set up with an account with Meguiar's to buy direct at wholesale cost. (Their minimum order quantity might be higher than what you need though, like I said it depends on how much you use)
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 06, 2023, 09:13:15 AM
Yeahhhh the amount and frequency probably wouldn't be anywhere near what they require to give me wholesale pricing. And typically when I order stuff from autogeek, I also get a couple things from other brands as well (buffer pads, etc) so it's a good one-stop shop for me.

Plus a quick Googling usually finds me a 10-20% discount code for autogeek anyways. :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on March 06, 2023, 10:08:34 AM
Hey detailer guise. What kind of undercoat should I do on TUNDRA? For about $250 I can get this black oil goop that needs reapplication every other year. For a lot more, I can get a lifetime coating.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 06, 2023, 10:56:32 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on March 06, 2023, 10:08:34 AM
Hey detailer guise. What kind of undercoat should I do on TUNDRA? For about $250 I can get this black oil goop that needs reapplication every other year. For a lot more, I can get a lifetime coating.

A 6-pack of FluidFilm spray cans is like $60. Once a year. Or use a spray gun and buy it by the gallon.

I sprayed Taco very, very thoroughly and 6 cans was plenty.

Or are you not looking to DIY. If so idk.

Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on March 06, 2023, 11:01:05 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 06, 2023, 10:56:32 AM
A 6-pack of FluidFilm spray cans is like $60. Once a year. Or use a spray gun and buy it by the gallon.

I sprayed Taco very, very thoroughly and 6 cans was plenty.

Or are you not looking to DIY. If so idk.

It's just so messy. I'd have to buy PPE and spray gun.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 06, 2023, 11:37:38 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on March 06, 2023, 11:01:05 AM
It's just so messy. I'd have to buy PPE and spray gun.

Messy indeed. Stinky, too. Took about a week before the smell went away in my shop (did it in late October...too cold to leave the garage door open).

I think the annual/every other year coatings are perfectly adequate. Relatively inexpensive and far, far better than nothing.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 06, 2023, 11:56:49 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 06, 2023, 11:37:38 AM
Messy indeed. Stinky, too. Took about a week before the smell went away in my shop (did it in late October...too cold to leave the garage door open).

I think the annual/every other year coatings are perfectly adequate. Relatively inexpensive and far, far better than nothing.

How's it compare to gear oil smell? :lol:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on March 06, 2023, 01:28:14 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 06, 2023, 11:56:49 AM
How's it compare to gear oil smell? :lol:

Worse odor, similar linger.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on March 06, 2023, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 06, 2023, 01:28:14 PM
Worse odor, similar linger.

Does it repels rodents? I hope so. The mice around here love chewing on wires and having babies in blower motors.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: r0tor on April 09, 2023, 11:04:55 AM
Any good wheel cleaner recommendations?

My SSR wheels are starting to bronze on the Mazda, probably from the metallic hawk brake pads.  Have ceramic pads on order, would like my gun metal wheels back.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on April 09, 2023, 11:45:41 AM
Quote from: r0tor on April 09, 2023, 11:04:55 AM
Any good wheel cleaner recommendations?

My SSR wheels are starting to bronze on the Mazda, probably from the metallic hawk brake pads.  Have ceramic pads on order, would like my gun metal wheels back.

Quote from: giant_mtb on February 20, 2023, 10:50:54 AM
Been using this stuff for years and years.  $25/gallon, dilutes 4:1, so a gallon goes a long way.

https://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-d140-combo.html
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on May 11, 2023, 02:15:10 PM
What's the best way to remove encrusted salt from auto carpets?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on May 11, 2023, 03:28:08 PM
Rent a sheep or goat to lick it
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on May 11, 2023, 03:56:37 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 11, 2023, 03:28:08 PMRent a sheep or goat to lick it
They might eat the carpet.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 11, 2023, 04:36:34 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on May 11, 2023, 02:15:10 PMWhat's the best way to remove encrusted salt from auto carpets?

Soak with carpet cleaner, scrub with a stiff-brissled carpet brush, vac, repeat until desired results are achieved.

Some say vinegar does a quicker job of dissolving it, but I'd never want to taint a car's carpet with the smell of vinegar. I'll gladly scrub away and leave a pleasant smell instead.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on May 11, 2023, 05:07:25 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 11, 2023, 04:36:34 PMSoak with carpet cleaner, scrub with a stiff-brissled carpet brush, vac, repeat until desired results are achieved.

Some say vinegar does a quicker job of dissolving it, but I'd never want to taint a car's carpet with the smell of vinegar. I'll gladly scrub away and leave a pleasant smell instead.
No easy way then.  I was wondering if they made some special spray that easily dissolves the salt.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 11, 2023, 05:42:31 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on May 11, 2023, 05:07:25 PMNo easy way then.  I was wondering if they made some special spray that easily dissolves the salt.

I'm sure it exists, but I've never bothered. I'm fine with using a little elbow grease and my go-to carpet cleaner instead paying for an expensive salt-specific product that I'd need to use very very frequently.

And if it isn't all that bad, carpet cleaner and a brush will really work just fine.  Scrubbing is going to be involved either way, like anything that's dirty and caked on.

To a similar point...most things inside your car can be cleaned exactly the same way you'd clean a similar surface in your house. It's not exactly rocket science, it's just in your car instead of in your home. :rockon:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on May 11, 2023, 07:09:52 PM
I thought that you might know of a product that would easily dissolve the salt scum without a lot of scrubbing.  I tried using carpet cleaner and a lot of scrubbing and, though it removed some of the salt, there still is quite a bit left imbedded in the carpet.  I usually don't mind doing a bit of scrubbing, but being of an age where joints tend to complain a lot in slightly awkward positions, I was hoping for and easier way of removing the salt.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 11, 2023, 09:11:00 PM
Is it like...to the point where it's basically like a piece of concrete embedded in the carpet? All stiff and shit? Pretty much nothing you can do at that point.

Have to never let it get to that point.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: FoMoJo on May 12, 2023, 05:55:29 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 11, 2023, 09:11:00 PMIs it like...to the point where it's basically like a piece of concrete embedded in the carpet? All stiff and shit? Pretty much nothing you can do at that point.

Have to never let it get to that point.
It was slowly coming off with the auto carpet cleaner and scrubbing, but I guess I can work at it a bit at a time.  It's just on the driver's side mainly near the gas pedal.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 12, 2023, 06:16:20 AM
That's the spot. :lol:

I see it every day. Well, almost...there's a reason most people around here have WeatherTechs or similar. People that don't end up wanting to shoot themselves in both feet.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 12, 2023, 07:28:38 AM
It's amazing how many cars I work on that have no floor mats, or terrible floormats all slid under the pedals. I mean, fuck.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: CaminoRacer on May 12, 2023, 08:36:36 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 12, 2023, 07:28:38 AMIt's amazing how many cars I work on that have no floor mats, or terrible floormats all slid under the pedals. I mean, fuck.

Whoever invented the floor mat clips 20+ years ago should be praised. And it's always worth a bit of extra money to get mats that clip into the floor correctly instead of buying generic mats
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on May 12, 2023, 09:19:16 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 12, 2023, 08:36:36 AMWhoever invented the floor mat clips 20+ years ago should be praised. And it's always worth a bit of extra money to get mats that clip into the floor correctly instead of buying generic mats

I haaaaaaate generic Walmart floor mats. I had a lady the other day with a Corolla who was like "I bought the 'truck' floor mats for it because they're probably more durable." ...no, ma'am they do nothing more than the other generic mats. It's about coverage, not how thick the material is.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Rich on May 12, 2023, 03:03:47 PM
pressure washer?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 12, 2023, 03:15:21 PM
chamois?
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: MrH on June 05, 2023, 09:00:16 AM
Not sure if this is really detailing, but anyone have experiencing pulling a ding out?  I got this nasty one on the front end of the Bolt :cry:  I-75 is a warzone to commute on.

(https://i.imgur.com/1nsmZEt.png)

It looks about as bad as possible in this picture, because I tried to get the overhead light to hit it perfectly.  It's not too deep, but there's a decent sized chip in the middle.  Debating whether I try it using a cheap Amazon ding puller kit or not.  Do I touch up paint before or after trying to pull the ding?

Unfortunately, there's no access to the backside of it to help push.  I have a PDR guy, but it's a pain to schedule it, drop the car off, pickup, etc.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 05, 2023, 09:26:11 AM
Never done it.

But I would apply touchup paint after pulling it out.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on June 07, 2023, 05:43:10 PM
Mom's Q5. 139,000 miles. Gave it its annual full detail today. Single-stage buff and a coat of wax. She's itching for a new vehicle, unsure of what she wants next. But dammit if this isn't the best-looking (paint condition wise) 139,000-mile black Q5 in existence. Helps when your son is a detailer and you buy him dinner once a week.  :ohyeah:

PXL_20230607_214431443.jpg 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Submariner on June 24, 2023, 12:02:34 AM
Looking great
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 11, 2023, 08:33:02 AM
So a guy hit the town FB page said their detailing business is struggling for traffic and want to do more work. Does this sound reasonable for our Minivan? We bought it in 2019 and meant to get it cleaned but never have=




Sound's good, So the price will be $199 for complete Interior

What is included in the package....

• Sanitize, Disinfect & Deodorize
• Vacuum Carpets
• Trunk/Hatchback
• Clean & Dust
• Detail Dashboard Console
• Cupholders
• Ash Trays
• Door Pockets
• Deep Clean & Conditioning
• Leather or Fabric Seats
• Clean Headliner
• UV Protectant
• Wipe-down of all
• Leather or Vinyl
• Conditioner Restoring
• Shampoo Floor Mats
• Clean Vents
• Clean All Interior
• Compartments
• Air Freshener
Jaeona
Jaeona Adams
10$ to 30$ extra for pet hair deep saints depends on condition
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on October 19, 2023, 05:51:07 AM
I'd say it's reasonable for, what would for me be, the best part of a day's work. I would say no to the UV protectant unless it's a product that's worthwhile. No high gloss ArmorAll crap.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 19, 2023, 06:18:11 AM
That's a lot of words to say "everything will be cleaned."  Oh thank god you'll clean out the ash trays and cupholders, I thought that would cost extra!
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 22, 2023, 06:50:33 AM
Well we're not very impressed. Seems like they just vacuumed/ steamed.

Everything is slick (leather seats, rubber floor mats) but not shiny, so I don't think they added any coating.

The stains in the backs of the seats are still there. But it's cleaner than it's been in a long time, so whatevs.

They didn't ask for any tip and the payment portal didn't have mechanism for one. 
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 22, 2023, 07:20:42 AM
Sounds like there's a reason that they're struggling for business.

Also as a side note, making things like floor mats "shiny" requires products that also make them slippery (plastic/vinyl/interior dressing is basically the same as tire shine, just packaged differently).  That's dangerous. I never dress rubber floor mats and happily explain to people why if they ask. Which they never do, because having things *clean* is what people actually care about...having things shiny for a week is nothing.

Also, I woulda done your van for $50 less and probably done a better job. :lol: Did they even do the door jambs? Critical to the overall presentation of a clean interior.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 22, 2023, 12:30:02 PM
No door jambs, no tip. :devil:
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 26, 2023, 12:13:37 PM
I didn't look.

And yeah it seems scummy to me now- they were on FB like they were just a husband/wife struggling but then I got texts from them and "their technician" who did the work.

2/10 will not pay again.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 26, 2023, 03:55:18 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on October 26, 2023, 12:13:37 PMI didn't look.

And yeah it seems scummy to me now- they were on FB like they were just a husband/wife struggling but then I got texts from them and "their technician" who did the work.

2/10 will not pay again.

Yeah, never pay professional-level prices for some random "struggling" husband/wife team trying to make ends meet if you have no record (pictures) of their previous work.

I assume the van is still far cleaner than it was, but it just sounds like you weren't happy for the price. If they had priced themselves accordingly to the quality of the work, it would be no big deal.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: Morris Minor on October 27, 2023, 07:19:12 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 26, 2023, 03:55:18 PMYeah, never pay professional-level prices for some random "struggling" husband/wife team trying to make ends meet if you have no record (pictures) of their previous work.

I assume the van is still far cleaner than it was, but it just sounds like you weren't happy for the price. If they had priced themselves accordingly to the quality of the work, it would be no big deal.
I second this. I helped out a young & struggling guy here at the recommendation of a neighbor. WHen I got the car back it was clean enough... but the wax had been stripped & nothing else applied, like he'd washed it with dishwasher detergent or something.
Title: Re: The Detailing Thread
Post by: giant_mtb on October 27, 2023, 08:19:19 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on October 27, 2023, 07:19:12 AMI second this. I helped out a young & struggling guy here at the recommendation of a neighbor. WHen I got the car back it was clean enough... but the wax had been stripped & nothing else applied, like he'd washed it with dishwasher detergent or something.

Was he supposed to have waxed it? 

A decent wax that's still relatively fresh (no more than a couple months old) will stand up to a wash or two from Dawn dish soap no problem. If you're doing a really thorough wash (ie, degreasing bugs off the front/windshield, iron decon, clay bar/mitt) then no, it won't stand up to that and will need a refresh.