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Title: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 02, 2019, 08:43:00 AM
https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?9326279-My-non-rotary-rotary-car-2007-RX-8-with-GM-LFX-(3-6l-V6)

I don't want to hear shit about it not having a rotary... a 2900lb, 330HP NA 4 door RWD manual car for ~$20K (I doubt one can find a $1K RX-8 easily) is something to be celebrated

This is turnkey with all parts...............
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: mzziaz on July 02, 2019, 09:04:44 AM
Same engine family as the one in my Alfa.

Nice setup!
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: shp4man on July 02, 2019, 11:32:00 AM
This is a slightly more sophisticated version of what they do on Roadkill. Burnout contest?  ;)
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: r0tor on July 02, 2019, 11:49:57 AM
Fuck that
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: HurricaneSteve on July 02, 2019, 11:56:11 AM
I've always liked the RX-8 but at that price I would much rather have a used low mileage Corvette.
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: MrH on July 02, 2019, 11:56:59 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 02, 2019, 08:43:00 AM
https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?9326279-My-non-rotary-rotary-car-2007-RX-8-with-GM-LFX-(3-6l-V6)

I don't want to hear shit about it not having a rotary... a 2900lb, 330HP NA 4 door RWD manual car for ~$20K (I doubt one can find a $1K RX-8 easily) is something to be celebrated

This is turnkey with all parts...............

Almost $20k for a beat to hell RX-8...?

If I'm spending $20k on a project car, I'd rather do an exocet.  Make something wild.
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: r0tor on July 02, 2019, 11:59:59 AM
Much better
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzleYhq4aqPvIxSQov7DIKDCJ8SGJsyKc
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 02, 2019, 12:30:04 PM
Quote from: MrH on July 02, 2019, 11:56:59 AM
Almost $20k for a beat to hell RX-8...?

If I'm spending $20k on a project car, I'd rather do an exocet.  Make something wild.

Exocet is hideous :(

$20K for this is very reasonable. S2Ks go for that much with 100 less HP and 2 less seats (but no less weight :mask: )
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on July 02, 2019, 02:24:15 PM
Quote from: HurricaneSteve on July 02, 2019, 11:56:11 AM
I've always liked the RX-8 but at that price I would much rather have a used low mileage Corvette.
Yup.......  :cheers:
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: GoCougs on July 02, 2019, 02:25:09 PM
But there's no rotary. Plus, $20k is about $15k too much.

GM's ubiquitous 3.6L is N/A tops, esp. in the Camaro, but yeah, this is something you don't do. You gonna take this much time and effort you're gonna Do It Right:

(https://www.ls1rx8.com/uploads/1/7/5/5/17556281/5965602_orig.jpeg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPdAiaRQWgM

Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: MrH on July 02, 2019, 02:25:34 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 02, 2019, 12:30:04 PM
Exocet is hideous :(

$20K for this is very reasonable. S2Ks go for that much with 100 less HP and 2 less seats (but no less weight :mask: )
Both of these statements are true.

I have a hard time comparing it to an S2000 though.  And S2000 is a functioning, OEM car.  This will undoubtedly have issues (the guy in the thread had his AC die on the way home and it sounds like it's still running a really janky piggyback ECU kind of setup).  If everything is totally solid though, yeah, it's a lot of car for the money.

And yes, the Exocet is ugly.  I'm trying to pick a color combo that would at least not look horrible.  Need to play around in photoshop a bit.
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 02, 2019, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: HurricaneSteve on July 02, 2019, 11:56:11 AM
I've always liked the RX-8 but at that price I would much rather have a used low mileage Corvette.

If you want "four seats", then RX-8 isn't bad. But yeah, Corvette.
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: r0tor on July 02, 2019, 05:51:31 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on July 02, 2019, 02:25:09 PM
But there's no rotary. Plus, $20k is about $15k too much.

GM's ubiquitous 3.6L is N/A tops, esp. in the Camaro, but yeah, this is something you don't do. You gonna take this much time and effort you're gonna Do It Right:

(https://www.ls1rx8.com/uploads/1/7/5/5/17556281/5965602_orig.jpeg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPdAiaRQWgM



That's not doing it right

https://youtu.be/D2mdNebpuVI
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: GoCougs on July 02, 2019, 07:09:06 PM
Quote from: r0tor on July 02, 2019, 05:51:31 PM
That's not doing it right

https://youtu.be/D2mdNebpuVI

WAY more than $20k though.
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 02, 2019, 08:01:32 PM
LFX is a bolt in affair.... LSx requires banging out some frame rails. No thanks

I have always prefered 6 cylinders to 8 as well. Less power, so what. 330HP in 2800lb is ample.
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: r0tor on July 03, 2019, 05:19:26 AM
You can plop a turbo on an rx8 and get 300whp for less than $5k... Why spend 4x more for generic V6
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 03, 2019, 05:36:34 AM
Stock RENESIS barely run and you want to put a turbo on one? :wtf:

Again what is generic about a manual RWD 4 door 4 seater with 330+ N/A HP that weighs 2900 or so lbs? If that's generic show me the other ones
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: r0tor on July 03, 2019, 05:39:45 AM
There are plenty of low boost turbo and supercharged renesis engines out there... But please tell me all about how terrible the engine is  :rolleyes:

You can get a ~300 hp V6 from Ford, GM, Toyota, chrysler, Honda, Kia, ect... That's about as generic as it gets
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: MrH on July 03, 2019, 07:49:17 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 03, 2019, 05:36:34 AM
Stock RENESIS barely run and you want to put a turbo on one? :wtf:

Again what is generic about a manual RWD 4 door 4 seater with 330+ N/A HP that weighs 2900 or so lbs? If that's generic show me the other ones

You sound sold.  DO IT!  We need some entertaining car decisions on this forum.
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 03, 2019, 08:09:02 AM
Quote from: r0tor on July 03, 2019, 05:39:45 AM
There are plenty of low boost turbo and supercharged renesis engines out there... But please tell me all about how terrible the engine is  :rolleyes:
There are also a disproportionate number of blown bone stock RENESIS motors out there. It's not a good engine

Quote from: r0tor on July 03, 2019, 05:39:45 AM
You can get a ~300 hp V6 from Ford, GM, Toyota, chrysler, Honda, Kia, ect... That's about as generic as it gets
With RWD, 4 doors, 4 seats, a manual transmission and a 2900lb curb weight for $20K? Post some links

Quote from: MrH on July 03, 2019, 07:49:17 AM
You sound sold.  DO IT!  We need some entertaining car decisions on this forum.
I have burned through my bad car decision lifeline until the day care bills end. We'll see what's out there around 2025-2026 :(
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: HurricaneSteve on July 03, 2019, 04:11:48 PM
Well there is always a Camaro, Mustang or Challenger/Charger if one wants 4 seats, but a relatively lightweight RWD car with a V8? Seems like a lot of work (and potential headache) when someone could just get a Vette. Nonetheless, much respect to those who take on these kind of projects.

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on July 02, 2019, 04:30:13 PM
If you want "four seats", then RX-8 isn't bad. But yeah, Corvette.
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 03, 2019, 06:39:14 PM
If this thing is reliable, it could be a 1 car solution, which is not the case with a Corvette. I'd almost trust this more than an equally old German performance car too
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 03, 2019, 07:31:02 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 03, 2019, 06:39:14 PM
If this thing is reliable, it could be a 1 car solution, which is not the case with a Corvette. I'd almost trust this more than an equally old German performance car too

Caprice wagon with a T56 swap = Corvette wagon ... kind of.
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: r0tor on July 03, 2019, 07:31:15 PM
Sans engine, I'd say an RX8 is among the most reliable cars made... It's fairly simple and mostly bulletproof
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 03, 2019, 08:14:45 PM
Quote from: r0tor on July 03, 2019, 07:31:15 PM
Sans engine, I'd say an RX8 is among the most reliable cars made... It's fairly simple and mostly bulletproof

Uhhhh.....  :hmm:

So we are in agreement then
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: giant_mtb on July 04, 2019, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: r0tor on July 03, 2019, 07:31:15 PM
Sans engine, I'd say an RX8 is among the most reliable cars made... It's fairly simple and mostly bulletproof

Any car without an engine is gonna be "reliable" because it doesn't fuckin' move. lol
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: 68_427 on July 06, 2019, 03:23:03 PM
Quote from: mzziaz on July 02, 2019, 09:04:44 AM
Same engine family as the one in my Alfa.

Nice setup!

wat?
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: mzziaz on July 07, 2019, 02:06:40 AM
Quote from: 68_427 on July 06, 2019, 03:23:03 PM
wat?


Ya. The 159 had GM derived gasoline engines. It was also built on a new joint premium platform for Fiat/GM.
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: 68_427 on July 07, 2019, 07:49:34 AM
Quote from: mzziaz on July 07, 2019, 02:06:40 AM
Ya. The 159 had GM derived gasoline engines. It was also built on a new joint premium platform for Fiat/GM.

Sounds like you should buy one and bolt 'er in 😁
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: FoMoJo on July 07, 2019, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: mzziaz on July 07, 2019, 02:06:40 AM
Ya. The 159 had GM derived gasoline engines. It was also built on a new joint premium platform for Fiat/GM.
Thank goodness they switched to Ferrari based engines for their Giulia and Quadrifoglio. :lol:
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: mzziaz on July 07, 2019, 12:26:44 PM
Meh. There is a lot of snobbery in the in the automotive business, and especially among Alfistis. But the high feauture GM derived 3.2 in the 159 is, except for looks, a superior engine to the Busso 3.2 that it replaced.

Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: FoMoJo on July 07, 2019, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: mzziaz on July 07, 2019, 12:26:44 PM
Meh. There is a lot of snobbery in the in the automotive business, and especially among Alfistis. But the high feauture GM derived 3.2 in the 159 is, except for looks, a superior engine to the Busso 3.2 that it replaced.
Basically a Holden engine then.
Title: Re: Start stockpiling RX-8s now
Post by: mzziaz on July 11, 2019, 04:33:11 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 07, 2019, 12:39:05 PM
Basically a Holden engine then.

Yes. But with Alfa heads. Stout engine. Only weak point is that the chain can stretch. Supposedly, it is a bitch to change it.