Thinking of buying a Cayenne S

Started by Payman, October 11, 2019, 08:05:10 PM

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Soup DeVille

Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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12,000 RPM

Quote from: MrH on October 16, 2019, 08:16:04 AM
Honda is also one of the best engine manufacturers in the world.  It's not like they cracked the code and everyone can pull off what they do.
I'm just talking about design. Good engineering is seeking out the simplest, most elegant solution for a problem. That's usually Honda's approach, which is a big part of why they are the best.
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r0tor

Honda has had their share of exploding transmissions and oil guzzling engines... Let's just call it as it is
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MrH

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 16, 2019, 09:50:10 AM
I'm just talking about design. Good engineering is seeking out the simplest, most elegant solution for a problem. That's usually Honda's approach, which is a big part of why they are the best.

That's not how the German's view it at all.

They typically chase after what they consider the most "complete" solution.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: MrH on October 16, 2019, 02:05:38 PM
That's not how the German's view it at all.

They typically chase after what they consider the most "complete" solution.

It is, and I can point to many cases outside of the auto industry to back up that assertion, or even to autos from the past.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Laconian

I wonder what Galaxy and Wimmer think of that.
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Payman

Just having my coffee and leaving soon to go buy a Porsche SUV.  :muffin:

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FoMoJo

Quote from: Rockraven on October 19, 2019, 06:20:50 AM
Just having my coffee and leaving soon to go buy a Porsche SUV.  :muffin:
Same one?
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Payman

Just got home, yes same one. Absolutely gorgeous, in amazing condition. Sumptuous leather interior and killer sound system, power everything. Took it around some city streets and then up on hwy 407. Gobs of power but didn't feel particularly fast, and super smooth with no noticeable road noise. And the sound is awesome. Just a superb friggin vehicle.

I didn't pull the trigger. Yet. I'm agonizing over it, for the reasons you guys mentioned (and I already knew). Also, the extra warranty is 2 years and almost an extra $4000.

*sigh*

FoMoJo

That's a lot for a couple of years warranty.  Sounds like a nice car though.  Maybe'll they'll shave a couple or so grand off the price.
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Laconian

"Gobs of power but didn't feel particularly fast"

As in "it's not fast", or "it doesn't feel fast"? My impressions of German cars is that they're very much built to make high speeds tolerable.
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Laconian

How 'bout a Cayman or a Boxster? You'll get the power and feeling of speed you crave.
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MX793

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Payman

Quote from: Laconian on October 19, 2019, 12:36:55 PM
"Gobs of power but didn't feel particularly fast"

As in "it's not fast", or "it doesn't feel fast"? My impressions of German cars is that they're very much built to make high speeds tolerable.

30-50 and 50-70 acceleration didn't seem impressive, but it was linear and felt like it would haul past 150. Cruising at 80-90 mph it was like a bank vault and smooth, as expected.

Laconian

How about taking that specific car to an independent mechanic for an appraisal?
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giant_mtb

Quote from: Laconian on October 19, 2019, 12:36:55 PM
"Gobs of power but didn't feel particularly fast"

As in "it's not fast", or "it doesn't feel fast"? My impressions of German cars is that they're very much built to make high speeds tolerable.

That was my impression with the A4. It was quick, but didn't always feel quick. But it ate up 80mph miles like nobody's business.

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Laconian

Quote from: Rockraven on October 23, 2019, 05:22:03 PM
No. Looking at saner options.

Boo! Get something insane. Do it for us. We need drama.
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Payman

I dunno what I'm doing yet... vehicle plans are on the backburner for now as I take care of some investments and kitchen planning. 10 year ago me would have bought it 2 weeks ago, but I've turned into a financial coward.

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r0tor

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Used crew cab Silverado V8. Or F150. Or Ram. Avoid Titan- it's a POS. Lots of power, lots of room, lots of easy driving, lots of towing and not bad handling..for a truck. Plus, you can haul that new refrigerator home yourself and save the $29.95.
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Payman

Quote from: r0tor on October 24, 2019, 05:11:03 PM
This thread is a catastrophe

Yeah, *sigh* sorry. I'll have something cool to post soon. Looking at X5s now too.