WR250X

Started by Cookie Monster, August 14, 2016, 08:12:40 PM

Cookie Monster

So I decided the FJ was too comfortable, too heavy and had 600 too many cc's for me.





Yes, I still have the FJ. Yes, I still need to sell it. Yes, I still can't ride. No, I don't know what I'm doing.


:lol:
RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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MX793

That'll be fun on the highway.
Needs more Jiggawatts

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Cookie Monster

It's not that bad on the highway. :huh:
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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CaminoRacer

Dope. What year is it? Appears to be in great condition.
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

Cookie Monster

Quote from: CaminoRacer on August 14, 2016, 08:32:27 PM
Dope. What year is it? Appears to be in great condition.

'09, 1300 miles, supposedly never dropped, but it has new plastics (Acerbis) with Acerbis headlight.

It has an FMF programmer but a no-name exhaust so I might get a full FMF system if I can find out how to tune the programmer. Apparently it's kind of lean right now since it backfires a bit on decel.

Also, the previous owner was short so he slid the forks up in the triples and lowered the rear somehow so I have to figure out how to undo that and get it sprung for my weight (he is 140 lb).

And it needs new tires soon (original OEM tires on there from '08 :mask: ) and I want to get a seat and a dirt wheelset for it to go dirt biking at some point.
RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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SVT_Power

I think you should ask your money back, that's a weird looking RC51  :huh:

:lol:
"On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And you then go for this limit and you touch this limit, and you think, 'Okay, this is the limit'. And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high." - Ayrton Senna

68_427

It should backfire on decel.  If you want less popping you'll have to buy a more efficient muffler.  No ACV on this correct?
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giant_mtb


SVT_Power

Quote from: 68_427 on August 14, 2016, 10:57:55 PM
It should backfire on decel.  If you want less popping you'll have to buy a more efficient muffler.  No ACV on this correct?

Backfire on decel is almost always a sign the bike is running lean AFAIK
"On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And you then go for this limit and you touch this limit, and you think, 'Okay, this is the limit'. And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high." - Ayrton Senna

CaminoRacer

Is it backfiring or just popping? Popping can just be due to unburnt fuel hitting the hot exhaust pipe. Backfiring is definitely caused by a lean mixture or retarded ignition timing.
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SVT_Power

Quote from: CaminoRacer on August 15, 2016, 09:56:11 AM
Is it backfiring or just popping? Popping can just be due to unburnt fuel hitting the hot exhaust pipe. Backfiring is definitely caused by a lean mixture or retarded ignition timing.

The unburnt fuel hitting the exhaust pipe is usually caused by lean mixture as well, thus either way it's a lean mixture issue  :lol:

Although I'm not sure how you'd have a AF mixture issue with a piggyback controller. Unless you have a terrible map on it.
"On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And you then go for this limit and you touch this limit, and you think, 'Okay, this is the limit'. And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high." - Ayrton Senna

giant_mtb

Time to do wheelies and ride sidewalks and jump curbs and run away from the cops on trail.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: SVT_Power on August 15, 2016, 09:58:29 AM
The unburnt fuel hitting the exhaust pipe is usually caused by lean mixture as well, thus either way it's a lean mixture issue  :lol:

Although I'm not sure how you'd have a AF mixture issue with a piggyback controller. Unless you have a terrible map on it.

If it's lean, why is there unburnt fuel in the exhaust? I'm asking because I'm curious.

I think it may just be popping from the air injection system, which injects air from the air box into the head where the exhaust runners are, before the header. That, combined with a free flow exhaust, causes a lot of popping.

Also, to your second point, I agree. FMF is a fuel adder, so I don't know how it'd be running that lean if it's got any sort of map on it, unless the exhaust is so free that the added fuel is still not enough and it's still running lean.
RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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SVT_Power

Quote from: Cookie Monster on August 15, 2016, 11:46:23 AM
If it's lean, why is there unburnt fuel in the exhaust? I'm asking because I'm curious.

I think it may just be popping from the air injection system, which injects air from the air box into the head where the exhaust runners are, before the header. That, combined with a free flow exhaust, causes a lot of popping.

Also, to your second point, I agree. FMF is a fuel adder, so I don't know how it'd be running that lean if it's got any sort of map on it, unless the exhaust is so free that the added fuel is still not enough and it's still running lean.

I'm almost sure you and I had this discussion about why lean = fuel in exhaust on FB a while back  :lol:

From what I recall, essentially it's way too lean in the cylinder for the fuel to fully combust so it actually gets sucked out into the exhaust where it combusts.

But yeah with a fuel controller you shouldn't really be getting much popping. Sounds like it's not injecting enough fuel.
"On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And you then go for this limit and you touch this limit, and you think, 'Okay, this is the limit'. And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high." - Ayrton Senna

Cookie Monster

Hmm, I'll have to do more reading into it.

I'll pull the AIS out first and see what happens. The exhaust on there is actually a Delta Barrel 4 exhaust that  costs close to $500 so I think I'll leave that on there.


BTW, there are kart tracks here that let you ride supermotos on them. $60/day at the Sonoma kart tracks. :rockon:
RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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2 4 R

Cookie Monster

So... GPR makes a steering stabilizer for the WR250R/X. Might get one of those.
RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
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2 4 R

SVT_Power

Quote from: Cookie Monster on August 15, 2016, 08:35:40 PM
So... GPR makes a steering stabilizer for the WR250R/X. Might get one of those.

Is that the same thing as a steering damper? Isn't that for preventing tank slappers?
"On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And you then go for this limit and you touch this limit, and you think, 'Okay, this is the limit'. And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high." - Ayrton Senna

Cookie Monster

Quote from: SVT_Power on August 15, 2016, 08:37:18 PM
Is that the same thing as a steering damper? Isn't that for preventing tank slappers?

Yeah, but the bike is so light I'm thinking it might be good to have one anyways. Plus apparently it's useful offroad.

I want to learn how to pop wheelies on this bike so it might also help to have it if I put the front down weird. :lol:
RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
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2 4 R

68_427

Quote from: SVT_Power on August 15, 2016, 09:58:29 AM
The unburnt fuel hitting the exhaust pipe is usually caused by lean mixture as well, thus either way it's a lean mixture issue  :lol:

Although I'm not sure how you'd have a AF mixture issue with a piggyback controller. Unless you have a terrible map on it.

Quote from: SVT_Power on August 15, 2016, 11:55:20 AM
I'm almost sure you and I had this discussion about why lean = fuel in exhaust on FB a while back  :lol:

From what I recall, essentially it's way too lean in the cylinder for the fuel to fully combust so it actually gets sucked out into the exhaust where it combusts.

But yeah with a fuel controller you shouldn't really be getting much popping. Sounds like it's not injecting enough fuel.

That's what I said on FB last night too :lol:
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giant_mtb

Quote from: Cookie Monster on August 15, 2016, 08:41:08 PM
Yeah, but the bike is so light I'm thinking it might be good to have one anyways. Plus apparently it's useful offroad.

I want to learn how to pop wheelies on this bike so it might also help to have it if I put the front down weird. :lol:

Super useful off road. I'd like to have one some day.  Great for when you hit a log or rock funny so the bars don't instantly twist out of your hands and down you go. 

Though slick tires are probably your real limiting factor off road. A stabilizer isn't going to keep your front end from washing out.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: giant_mtb on August 16, 2016, 01:19:56 PM
Super useful off road. I'd like to have one some day.  Great for when you hit a log or rock funny so the bars don't instantly twist out of your hands and down you go. 

Though slick tires are probably your real limiting factor off road. A stabilizer isn't going to keep your front end from washing out.

Nah, I'm planning on getting a set of dirt wheels and tires off of a WR250R. The stabilizer will work both on road and off road anyways.

I just emailed a CL ad about a set of dirt wheels so we'll see how that plays out. Not too hopeful of getting it but w/e.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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2 4 R

Cookie Monster

Damn, no go on the wheels... Oh well.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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giant_mtb

Would be nice to have two sets of wheels.

Cookie Monster

Yeah, I'm going to keep looking. No way am I putting 17" dirt tires on my SM wheels. :nono:
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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giant_mtb

That would look a little funky. 

CaminoRacer

Welcome to the wire wheel club btw :ohyeah:
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Cookie Monster

Quote from: CaminoRacer on August 18, 2016, 01:45:15 PM
Welcome to the wire wheel club btw :ohyeah:

Thanks. :lol:

Wire wheels on an SM look so nice IMO. They don't look quite right with the cast wheels.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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CaminoRacer

I've decided I need an SM as well. Eventually.
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Cookie Monster

RWD > FWD
President of the "I survived the Volvo S80 Thread" Club
2007 Mazda MX-5 | 1999 Honda Nighthawk 750 | 1989 Volvo 240 | 1991 Toyota 4Runner | 2006 Honda CBR600F4i | 2015 Yamaha FJ-09 | 1999 Honda CBR600F4 | 2009 Yamaha WR250X | 1985 Mazda RX-7 | 2000 Yamaha YZ426F | 2006 Yamaha FZ1 | 2002 Honda CBR954RR | 1996 Subaru Outback | 2018 Subaru Crosstrek | 1986 Toyota MR2
Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

giant_mtb

If I were to get a street bike, it would probably be a SM style too.  Or "adventure" if I decided I really wanted to do long hauls.  I can't see myself on a crotch rocket.  I like the flick ability and off road ability of dirtbikes.  Granted, I've never ridden an actual street bike, but, I'm allowed to have preferences, right? :mask: