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Title: U.S. To Create Purpose-Built Hydrogen Disaster Relief Vehicle
Post by: cawimmer430 on October 11, 2019, 06:48:27 AM
Interesting.  :ohyeah:


U.S. To Create Purpose-Built Hydrogen Disaster Relief Vehicle

The U.S. Department of Energy and U.S. Army will work together to develop a purpose-built disaster relief vehicle with a hydrogen fuel cell powertrain, CNET reports.

The U.S. Army has already collaborated with General Motors to develop the Chevrolet Colorado ZH2 fuel cell and sees a number of advantages with such a powertrain. For starters, a hydrogen vehicle can provide a source of power, heat, and potable water for up to 72 hours, things which could have helped greatly in emergency situations like the wildfires in California and Hurricane Dorian in the Bahamas.

(https://images.carscoops.com/2019/10/f2b3124f-hydrogen-2.jpg)

Limited details about the vehicle are known including when it could first be put to use. What we do know is that the vehicle has been dubbed 'H2Rescue' with the Army Corps of Engineers and various partners to begin issuing requests for proposals this fall before work kicks off.

Once the H2Rescue has been engineered and developed it will go through a feasibility study. Both the Department of Energy and Army are also planning a joint demonstration to showcase how a zero-emissions emergency vehicle is well suited to those in the field.

General Motors builds vehicles for the armed forces through its Defense division. In addition to the fuel cell Colorado ZH2 unveiled a couple of years ago, the company previewed its larger Silverado ZH2 late last year. That vehicle is powered by a next-generation fuel cell fed by three 700 bar hydrogen fuel tanks and is reportedly good for a range exceeding 400 miles (643 km).


Link: https://www.carscoops.com/2019/10/u-s-to-create-purpose-built-hydrogen-disaster-relief-vehicle/
Title: Re: U.S. To Create Purpose-Built Hydrogen Disaster Relief Vehicle
Post by: Laconian on October 11, 2019, 07:24:52 PM
How is hydrogen better suited for disaster zones? If the infrastructure is down, wouldn't pressurized hydrogen gas be harder to come by than just gasoline? Making water is cool but it seems like a fringe benefit.
Title: Re: U.S. To Create Purpose-Built Hydrogen Disaster Relief Vehicle
Post by: Soup DeVille on October 11, 2019, 08:09:31 PM
Quote from: Laconian on October 11, 2019, 07:24:52 PM
How is hydrogen better suited for disaster zones? If the infrastructure is down, wouldn't pressurized hydrogen gas be harder to come by than just gasoline? Making water is cool but it seems like a fringe benefit.


Seems confusing to me too. Other than claiming a government use might unlock government money.
Title: Re: U.S. To Create Purpose-Built Hydrogen Disaster Relief Vehicle
Post by: Laconian on October 11, 2019, 09:44:34 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 11, 2019, 08:09:31 PM
Seems confusing to me too. Other than claiming a government use might unlock government money.

"Build a ZEV vehicle for ______".
Title: Re: U.S. To Create Purpose-Built Hydrogen Disaster Relief Vehicle
Post by: cawimmer430 on October 13, 2019, 02:50:38 AM
Quote from: Laconian on October 11, 2019, 07:24:52 PM
How is hydrogen better suited for disaster zones? If the infrastructure is down, wouldn't pressurized hydrogen gas be harder to come by than just gasoline? Making water is cool but it seems like a fringe benefit.

To my knowledge there has been significant progress in the pressurization tanks where hydrogen is stored. However, these tanks will supposedly need to be replaced in under 10 years due to material fatigue.

Seems to me the fuel of the future should be synthetic gasoline/diesel (E-Fuels). You can transport them in canisters, they have a high energy density and when burned they don't emit CO2.
Title: Re: U.S. To Create Purpose-Built Hydrogen Disaster Relief Vehicle
Post by: Laconian on October 13, 2019, 12:42:53 PM
But what about just regular diesel? I mean, the US military is already one of the biggest single polluters on Earth with untold numbers of gas and diesel vehicles in its fleet, so what difference will a couple dozen ZEVs make? It's clearly a pork barrel project.
Title: Re: U.S. To Create Purpose-Built Hydrogen Disaster Relief Vehicle
Post by: cawimmer430 on October 14, 2019, 04:18:01 AM
Quote from: Laconian on October 13, 2019, 12:42:53 PM
But what about just regular diesel? I mean, the US military is already one of the biggest single polluters on Earth with untold numbers of gas and diesel vehicles in its fleet, so what difference will a couple dozen ZEVs make? It's clearly a pork barrel project.

Diesel would be ideal, especially old-school with none of the emissions control systems.  :tounge: