Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on May 18, 2024, 07:30:04 AMYes, a lot of people in Middle Tennessee drive Nissans. Like all things, Nissan fell into a situation where they had to focus on being profitable versus being interesting. I fail to see what they offer much to the enthusiasts even though they have made vehicles over time that I felt were engaging and interesting.

If I was going to buy a Nissan now it would be an Pro 4x Xterra. A true utility vehicle that is half the price of a FJ or 4Runner. It's a shame they do not make them anymore.

There is a 1st gen Xterra at my gym - really good condition, probably a 2" lift, chunky Terra Grapplers, a light bar, some other nicks and nacks and it's a five speed.  Very cool 4x4.  It's from the era where Japanese trucks hit the sweet spot between weird and quirky and western mainstream. Great time for Nissan, Toyota and even Mitsubishi.

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on May 24, 2024, 07:47:15 PMhahahahahahaha

WANT. I'd get it if we weren't paying house down

https://augusta.craigslist.org/cto/d/grovetown-2011-nissan-murano-cross/7749536881.html

"Power top is inoperable"

Deal breaker right there.  My Spidey-Senses tell me there's untold amounts of pain and misery lurking within and to run far, FAR away!!!  That, combined with styling by Stevie Wonder and an overall whiff of bottom-feeding Nissanness should be enough to dissuade all but the most ardent masochists from subjecting themselves to this blight on the automotive landscape.  It's not even bad enough to own and drive ironically, like an AMC Pacer.

To be honest, I think I'd rather have one of those!

Quote from: GoCougs on May 25, 2024, 03:29:57 PMHmmm. That 60' time doesn't equate. My lowly cretin-esque SQ5 posts 60' times of 1.76-1.79s (and it's a 12.4s @ 110 performer) and that is with a rather weak (low-ish boost) launch (otherwise I spin and then bog).

That was a run in the rain.  Dry run is likely going to be even better ET and 60'

Looks like a pretty typical 60 ft time for a Model 3 Performance. Here's a thread full of Dragy results and time slips: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/dedicated-m3-1-4-mile-slips-post-your-slips-videos-verified-dragy-gps-etc.288163/

Hmmm. That 60' time doesn't equate. My lowly cretin-esque SQ5 posts 60' times of 1.76-1.79s (and it's a 12.4s @ 110 performer) and that is with a rather weak (low-ish boost) launch (otherwise I spin and then bog).

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So someone dragyed the new Model 3 Performance, 11.09 in the 1/4 mile and 122.99mph  so pretty much on identical with the new Ioniq 5 N, which costs about 13K more, and 20 grand more with incentives.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a60607212/2025-hyundai-ioniq-5-n-test/

Also just a tick behind a M3 Comp Xdrive for both ET and trap speed which stickers for about 2x more well equip.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a43389602/2023-bmw-m3-competition-xdrive-edition-50-jahre-by-the-numbers/

I see they couldn't be bothered to take 4 minutes to vacuum the floor a bit for pictures.

hahahahahahaha

WANT. I'd get it if we weren't paying house down

https://augusta.craigslist.org/cto/d/grovetown-2011-nissan-murano-cross/7749536881.html

I would think that the use of the revenue received from tariffs would be a determining factor as to whether it could be considered good or bad.  If the tariffs received from cars made in China, for example, were used towards building better roads rather than given to corporations or tax reductions for the wealthy, then it may be considered in a positive light.

I don't think tariffs, quotas, and minimum prices can be summarily considered bad or good. It's very industry and country specific. The global average tariff on agricultural products, for example, is 62%.

Google the U.S. tariffs, allowable foreign import quotas, and govt set minimum prices on tobacco, meats, dairy, and sugar.

Just as an example on sugar:

 https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/sugar-and-sweeteners/policy/#:~:text=The%20out%2Dof%2Dquota%20tariff,quantity%20of%20the%20imported%20sugar.