I'm sure you've seen them on the road. The type of driver that habitually and regardless of speed, maintains a distance of about half a car length behind anybody that dares be in front of them and makes insane lane changes that depend on someone else braking to avoid a collision.
Who, if anyone, taught these people to drive? It seems to me there are more of these morons now than in the past. It's a good thing there isn't a .45 in my glovebox.
:rage:
Admit it. are you one of these guys? ;)
These people do not exist in Louisiana.
If someone is driving slowly in the fast lane and doesn't get out of the way, I'll creep up and make it obvious I want to pass him.
I'm not but noticing them more and more. I purposefully will let the "packs" pass me or I tunnel through them, that's where the accidents happen.
PS- I want a paintball gun. I've proposed different colors for different infractions, your car gets covered with too many you get a ticket...
Packs are the worst. I admit, I get a bit antsy if I get stuck in them and work at getting through them.
I brake-checked a dude tailgating me this morning. I was doing 32 in a 25 in the right lane and the left lane was wide open...fucker wouldn't go around me. He slowed down with me; then I moved to the left lane and he went speeding on past me. :confused:
I hate tailgating. My brother's pretty bad about it...drives me nuts.
Sometimes, if someone pulls out in front of me when clearly they shouldn't have (i.e., I have to apply moderate braking because of their dumb ass) I'll ride their butt for a few seconds to see if they get the picture, but if they don't speed up, I'll either back off again or just zip around them...depending on my mood, I suppose. :lol:
Not me. I hate tailgaters. I just gradually slow down if someone gets too close. Funny thing is, most of them seem to be women these days.
I never tailgate. Can't stand being too close to cars, especially if they're brake happy.
Quote from: FoMoJo on March 22, 2012, 05:20:25 PM
Not me. I hate tailgaters. I just gradually slow down if someone gets too close. Funny thing is, most of them seem to be women these days.
Agree 100%. On slowing down gradually, and the female tailgating trend.
50% of the time I will indeed tailgate those driving under the speed limit; not super aggressive but close enough to be definitely classified as tailgating. I also do the hug-the-fog-line move to telegraph my displeasure.
Quote from: GoCougs on March 22, 2012, 07:18:59 PM
50% of the time I will indeed tailgate those driving under the speed limit; not super aggressive but close enough to be definitely classified as tailgating. I also do the hug-the-fog-line move to telegraph my displeasure.
You especially need to tailgate when you're in a carpool lane and you're the only dude in the car.... :lol:
I only tailgate for a specific reason -- a car in the passing lane that should be over in the travel lane. I don't get really close to the car in front of me.
Quote from: dazzleman on March 22, 2012, 07:24:42 PM
I only tailgate for a specific reason -- a car in the passing lane that should be over in the travel lane. I don't get really close to the car in front of me.
Yep, but I have been known to get right up on their ass. I've also pulled out right, gunned it, and then cut them off in the left lane before speeding away. They usually stay in the left lane, even with a totally clear right lane. :rage:
Fortunately, people have reasonable good lane discipline around here, though they drive like fucking grammas through town.
Quote from: dazzleman on March 22, 2012, 07:24:42 PM
I only tailgate for a specific reason -- a car in the passing lane that should be over in the travel lane. I don't get really close to the car in front of me.
This is usually when I do it, too.
Quote from: TurboDan on March 22, 2012, 06:57:23 PM
Agree 100%. On slowing down gradually, and the female tailgating trend.
If I'm already in a line of cars and there's no way for me to speed up, yeah, I'll sometimes slow waaay down just to convey my displeasure, then speed back up. But otherwise I speed up or move over, whichever makes the most sense at the moment.
I don't tailgate, because it is dangerous and causes road rage; I pass on the shoulder.
Much betterer.
Quote from: S204STi on March 22, 2012, 11:33:40 PM
Much betterer.
I am far from caring, anymore. I will always prove that I can be the bigger asshole. :praise:
I'll only tailgate if they're in the left lane and won't move. Shows my displeasure, and also makes it easy to squeeze into the right lane to pass if I get a chance.
I don't think tailgating is a good way to communicate displeasure, as it just makes people angry (see MiataJohn's post about chucking washers at people tailgating him). I hope to scare people and/or make myself feel better. :lol:
Quote from: dazzleman on March 22, 2012, 07:24:42 PM
I only tailgate for a specific reason -- a car in the passing lane that should be over in the travel lane. I don't get really close to the car in front of me.
I've found they are more likely to move over if I don't tailgate and just quickly flash my lights instead. Tailgating just pisses them off and they mus think "screw you, now way am I moving out of this lane".
And in answer to the question, No, I don't tailgate.
Quote from: Rupert on March 23, 2012, 01:34:14 AM
I don't think tailgating is a good way to communicate displeasure, as it just makes people angry (see MiataJohn's post about chucking washers at people tailgating him). I hope to scare people and/or make myself feel better. :lol:
Understand though that is a pretty drastic measure that I've done about twice.
First step is to slow down a bit and hope they go around. If they then decide they need to ride my bumper (as in I can no longer see their headlights) they get a break check. That doesn't work? On comes the windscreen washers. If none of the above works and depending on the circumstances and if I'm in the Miata one can simply rest their right hand on the passenger seat and flick up a bit of junk without being seen to do it.
Quote from: TurboDan on March 22, 2012, 06:57:23 PM
Agree 100%. On slowing down gradually, and the female tailgating trend.
I usually wait until I am next to another vehicle to slow, or, until I get close enough to another vehicle that the woman behind me thinks she can squirt around only to find out once over there that she cannot fit through.
Then I stick right there keeping them from passing until another car comes up behind (presuming there was one right behind the original tailgater) me and then box her out so she has to fall behind that one.
Not exactly legal, but it can be fun. I never push it too far, however. I have no desire to defend against a road rage incident.
Quote from: hounddog on March 23, 2012, 09:34:37 AM
I have no desire to defend against a road rage incident.
That, or dealing with insurance companies if someone does something incredibly dumb that results in an accident.
It would be truly uplifting to see a cop actually ticket one of these jackasses. Following too close? Maybe reckless driving? Ya, that'd be good. :ohyeah:
Quote from: dazzleman on March 22, 2012, 07:24:42 PM
I only tailgate for a specific reason -- a car in the passing lane that should be over in the travel lane. I don't get really close to the car in front of me.
In that situation, I flash my highbeams and pound the horn. It, usually, startles them.
Quote from: shp4man on March 23, 2012, 10:01:34 AM
It would be truly uplifting to see a cop actually ticket one of these jackasses. Following too close? Maybe reckless driving? Ya, that'd be good. :ohyeah:
The trouble is catching them in the act when in a fully marked patrol car.
Even standard police cars without lightbars are still easy to spot, and most agencies just do not have the money to spend on non-patrol rated cars for this type of enforcement.
Yes, it needs to be enforced, but where does the money for it come from?
Quote from: FoMoJo on March 23, 2012, 10:05:41 AM
In that situation, I flash my highbeams and pound the horn. It, usually, startles them.
In Michigan it is legal to just move over into the 'slow lane' and pass them.
I find the biggest groups of them here are;
1) women
2) foreign women
3) Illinios idiots
4) all of the above when talking on the phone
For what it is worth, Randy told me his traffic cars have issued a couple dozen tickets this year for texting while driving and commercial drivers talking on the phone. :clap:
Quote from: hounddog on March 23, 2012, 10:08:58 AM
In Michigan it is legal to just move over into the 'slow lane' and pass them.
May so, but I, sometimes, like to teach-them-a-lesson :lol:.
On the subject of traffic law enforcement, I've always wondered why there weren't more unmarked, non-Crown Victoria police vehicles. If I was a cop, I could ticket people all day if my truck had lights behind the grill. :huh:
Quote from: shp4man on March 23, 2012, 10:13:57 AM
On the subject of traffic law enforcement, I've always wondered why there weren't more unmarked, non-Crown Victoria police vehicles. If I was a cop, I could ticket people all day if my truck had lights behind the grill. :huh:
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Quote from: shp4man on March 23, 2012, 10:13:57 AM
On the subject of traffic law enforcement, I've always wondered why there weren't more unmarked, non-Crown Victoria police vehicles. If I was a cop, I could ticket people all day if my truck had lights behind the grill. :huh:
They do that in Houston. I believe how it works is they have a cop in an unmarked car, not even a usual cop car brand, driving along and when he sees someone driving like an ass he radios a cop in a marked crusier up ahead who pulls the guy over.
Quote from: MiataJohn on March 23, 2012, 10:27:59 AM
They do that in Houston. I believe how it works is they have a cop in an unmarked car, not even a usual cop car brand, driving along and when he sees someone driving like an ass he radios a cop in a marked crusier up ahead who pulls the guy over.
That would be fine, specifically because of the bolded part. I'm not a fan of unmarked cars pulling people over.
Quote from: hotrodalex on March 23, 2012, 03:32:48 PM
That would be fine, specifically because of the bolded part. I'm not a fan of unmarked cars pulling people over.
How about semi-marked?
Our state police have cars/suvs with nothing on the driver door but their full on emblem on the passenger door.
We also have a trend here of municipalities putting a shoulder patch sized emblem on the doors not too far underneath the mirrors and calling it a semi-marked car. One of these tried to pull my wife over on US-131 not long ago at about 1am as she was coming home from the airport, she slowed to about 55 and called 911.
Once they found the car trying to stop her and verified it she pulled over. The officer was actually not mad and told her he did not blame her, and appreciated her dropping below the posted limit of 70 to a reasonable speed. He still gave her a ticket, however. :lol:
Quote from: hounddog on March 23, 2012, 10:08:58 AM
For what it is worth, Randy told me his traffic cars have issued a couple dozen tickets this year for texting while driving and commercial drivers talking on the phone. :clap:
Does the term commercial drivers apply to police officers? I have been noticing more and more police officers around here talking on the cell phone while they are driving. I had one go past me this morning with his cell phone up to his ear while driving. If it is necessary for work shouldn't he at least be using some sort of bluetooth setup?
Nope. I maintain a safe follow distance at all times. When I need to pass someone, I pass. If you're camping in the left and I can't pass on the right, you'll get my high beams though.
Quote from: RomanChariot on March 23, 2012, 04:58:55 PM
Does the term commercial drivers apply to police officers? I have been noticing more and more police officers around here talking on the cell phone while they are driving. I had one go past me this morning with his cell phone up to his ear while driving. If it is necessary for work shouldn't he at least be using some sort of bluetooth setup?
In New Jersey, they are specifically exempt while on duty.
Quote from: RomanChariot on March 23, 2012, 04:58:55 PM
Does the term commercial drivers apply to police officers? I have been noticing more and more police officers around here talking on the cell phone while they are driving. I had one go past me this morning with his cell phone up to his ear while driving. If it is necessary for work shouldn't he at least be using some sort of bluetooth setup?
No, the law which prohibits commercial drivers (read: semi-trucks) is a federal law and only deals with those operating under commercial licenses. Since police officers are not required to have CDLs they are not covered under the law.
And, yes, I see way way too many police officers with their damned phone glued to their ear. In fact, that would be something which I was forcefully address were I a police administrator. Same with officers wearing sunglasses during contacts with citizens.
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Nope. I maintain a safe follow distance at all times. When I need to pass someone, I pass. If you're camping in the left and I can't pass on the right, you'll get my high beams though.
This does not jive with your recent claims of a super-aggressive driving style.
Quote from: hounddog on March 23, 2012, 03:55:21 PM
How about semi-marked?
Our state police have cars/suvs with nothing on the driver door but their full on emblem on the passenger door.
We also have a trend here of municipalities putting a shoulder patch sized emblem on the doors not too far underneath the mirrors and calling it a semi-marked car. One of these tried to pull my wife over on US-131 not long ago at about 1am as she was coming home from the airport, she slowed to about 55 and called 911.
Once they found the car trying to stop her and verified it she pulled over. The officer was actually not mad and told her he did not blame her, and appreciated her dropping below the posted limit of 70 to a reasonable speed. He still gave her a ticket, however. :lol:
I just don't like them in situations like you mentioned. If a "normal" car tried to pull me over, I'd be very cautious about it and probably call 911 to ask them to verify it, just like your wife did. Not that I'd be the best target for an impostor, but a guy with a gun would still be able to overpower me. A marked car is just nice because you pretty much know for sure that it's legit.
Quote from: Rupert on March 23, 2012, 01:34:14 AM
I don't think tailgating is a good way to communicate displeasure, as it just makes people angry (see MiataJohn's post about chucking washers at people tailgating him). I hope to scare people and/or make myself feel better. :lol:
MiataJohn however has never chucked anything at anyone.
But I do agree it works maybe 30% of the time.
I find people pull into the right lane after you've come up on them, tailgating or not, maybe 70% of the time on open rural freeways, but almost never no matter what on urban freeways. Then again, in Seattle or Portland, I'm happy anytime I'm going faster than 30 mph.
Quote from: shp4man on March 23, 2012, 10:13:57 AM
On the subject of traffic law enforcement, I've always wondered why there weren't more unmarked, non-Crown Victoria police vehicles. If I was a cop, I could ticket people all day if my truck had lights behind the grill. :huh:
In NY, an unmarked car cannot pull you over for a routine traffic infraction. At least the State Police can't, not sure if the legislation to bar local departments from using unmarkeds for traffic enforcement has been passed.
Quote from: MX793 on March 24, 2012, 08:18:25 AM
In NY, an unmarked car cannot pull you over for a routine traffic infraction. At least the State Police can't, not sure if the legislation to bar local departments from using unmarkeds for traffic enforcement has been passed.
Yeah, NY seems to have had an inordinate amount of shenanigans WRT impersonators pulling people over. I've never heard a great deal of concern in NJ over it, though.
Quote from: Rupert on March 24, 2012, 02:47:26 AM
I find people pull into the right lane after you've come up on them, tailgating or not, maybe 70% of the time on open rural freeways, but almost never no matter what on urban freeways. Then again, in Seattle or Portland, I'm happy anytime I'm going faster than 30 mph.
I agree on both counts; but primarily because traffic is dense/chaotic - staying out of the left lane isn't practical a good portion of the time.
True, but even when there isn't much traffic on urban freeways, people are so used to not pulling right, they still don't.
I just pass on the right. Never really had a problem with it, though supposedly it's "dangerous".
Yeah, assuming you can find enough room.
Quote from: Rupert on March 24, 2012, 05:53:53 PM
Yeah, assuming you can find enough room.
Around here, traffic is heavy enough that there's rarely enough room. Either that, or it would require a dangerous amount of jockeying to pull it off. If you get a left lane camper here, you're pretty much screwed.
Haven't seen too many around here, saw one on the highway yesterday. He was gaining on me pretty fast, and I had to slow down because of traffic, he nearly rear ended me (I was going 60-65 mph). I saw him smash his brakes and swerve to miss me. Then he proceeded to ride other cars' bumpers before getting off the highway not too long after.
Quote from: Rupert on March 23, 2012, 09:00:33 PM
This does not jive with your recent claims of a super-aggressive driving style.
I do drive very aggressively, but safety is still very important. I consider tailgating to be aggressive without discipline, and therefore reckless. If the person ahead of me is not going to move over with a high beam flash, intimidation via tailgating isn't going to work either. I'd rather spot an opening and take the right hand pass if the other drivers on the road won't follow the rules of driving. I just want them out of my way, I don't need them to get out of my way when I can put them in my rearview myself. When you think about it, tailgating is kind of passive. Like I said, when I need to pass, I'll pass, but I'm not going to sit in the left lane behind a camper and wait for them to come to their senses. I'm on the attack; it would be like waiting for the goalkeeper to get out of the net before taking a shot instead of finding an opening and stuffing it in yourself.
I hate those guys in the Sprinter-Vans tailgaiting at 100 mph when there is clearly a long line of cars in front of me on the left lane. I usually pull over and let them pass as I have no desire to be crushed by a poorly-maintained van when I need to brake hard.
As for myself, I don't move too close, but in Germany it is allowed to flash the highbeams once to indicate that you want to pass, so I usually do this. If the car camping the left lane doesn't move then, I try again and then let some other more aggressive driver handle the job. It got way better now with the BMW's Xenon high-beam. They usually wake up sleeping left-lane campers in the night :lol:
Quote from: Autobahn on April 28, 2012, 01:36:39 AM
I hate those guys in the Sprinter-Vans tailgaiting at 100 mph when there is clearly a long line of cars in front of me on the left lane. I usually pull over and let them pass as I have no desire to be crushed by a poorly-maintained van when I need to brake hard.
As for myself, I don't move too close, but in Germany it is allowed to flash the highbeams once to indicate that you want to pass, so I usually do this. If the car camping the left lane doesn't move then, I try again and then let some other more aggressive driver handle the job. It got way better now with the BMW's Xenon high-beam. They usually wake up sleeping left-lane campers in the night :lol:
You should really watch out for those Ford vans, too :devil:
Flashing is allowed here, it's just that people either never check their mirrors, so never move overr; or get pissed off and take it personally that your are insulting their penis size, and don't move over.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 28, 2012, 10:07:20 AM
You should really watch out for those Ford vans, too :devil:
Flashing is allowed here, it's just that people either never check their mirrors, so never move overr; or get pissed off and take it personally that your are insulting their penis size, and don't move over.
I'M ENFORCING THE SPEED LIMIT GODDAMNIT
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on April 28, 2012, 10:10:30 AM
I'M ENFORCING THE SPEED LIMIT GODDAMNIT
sadly many of them feel this way.
Quote from: FoMoJo on March 22, 2012, 05:20:25 PM
Not me. I hate tailgaters. I just gradually slow down if someone gets too close. Funny thing is, most of them seem to be women these days.
Yeah I do the very same thing. In a rush? Oooohh.. so sorry. I seem to have misplaced my gas pedal.
Edit: To be clear, I don't do this in a passing lane.
Quote from: dazzleman on March 22, 2012, 07:24:42 PM
I only tailgate for a specific reason -- a car in the passing lane that should be over in the travel lane. I don't get really close to the car in front of me.
I'm too impatient for that. I love horns. It takes them a few seconds but most people will move. I guess most initially don't expect to be honked at. :praise:
I try to leave reasonable stopping distances in front of myself but in traffic they get filled up so I wouldn't say I 'tailgate', but I should leave a bigger gap.
I have no problem passing people on the right on multi-lane highways/freeways. If people are cruising in the left lane they're usually too oblivious to how annoying they are to realize they should get over.
I'm not sure if I'm a particularly aggressive driver or not. I find myself changing lanes pretty often and passing lots of people—I pass others more than others pass me—but there are some out there who are orders of magnitude more aggressive than I am.
I'm mildly guilty of tailgating. I always leave enough room to stop but I'm heavy on the brakes in general so my perception of what's too close probably doesn't jive with everyone else's. I'm sure it often looks like I'm too close to the driver in front of me.
I've discovered a new dangerous animal on the roads since I moved to NC: the short stopper. I swear some of these creatures leave 2-3 car lengths between them and the next car at stop lights/signs. Now that I know to watch out for them, it's not a huge deal, but they can really mess you up if they're driving slowly on brake and decide to park it before they should. It also screws over following traffic because it takes longer to get through the light and they can block turning lanes.
And they clog up the line at drive-throughs. :rage:
Quote from: MiataJohn on March 23, 2012, 09:15:37 AM
I've found they are more likely to move over if I don't tailgate and just quickly flash my lights instead. Tailgating just pisses them off and they mus think "screw you, now way am I moving out of this lane".
And in answer to the question, No, I don't tailgate.
I had some idiot come up behind me in the left lane while I was passing someone flashing his lights like a mad man and going about 90. I was going 81-82, and the person in the right lane was going 77-78, but I just slowed down and moved over to get out of his way because lord knows what he would have done if I hadn't.
Obviously that isn't what you were talking about, but I thought it was worth noting.
I pretty much never tailgate. I find that in the south you don't really need too because any most roads with heavy traffic (so that you can't just pass on the right, although obviously that isn't as desirable as left) have more than two lanes so you can figure something else out.
Quote from: hotrodalex on March 23, 2012, 03:32:48 PM
That would be fine, specifically because of the bolded part. I'm not a fan of unmarked cars pulling people over.
On this note, when I was returning home from school this May, there had been at least a couple of murders on rural interstates in Mississippi by a police impersonator (to the extent he was classified as a serial killer).
So, definitely do what hounddog's wife did, especially in rural areas.
Quote from: Autobahn on April 28, 2012, 01:36:39 AM
I hate those guys in the Sprinter-Vans tailgaiting at 100 mph when there is clearly a long line of cars in front of me on the left lane. I usually pull over and let them pass as I have no desire to be crushed by a poorly-maintained van when I need to brake hard.
As for myself, I don't move too close, but in Germany it is allowed to flash the highbeams once to indicate that you want to pass, so I usually do this. If the car camping the left lane doesn't move then, I try again and then let some other more aggressive driver handle the job. It got way better now with the BMW's Xenon high-beam. They usually wake up sleeping left-lane campers in the night :lol:
There aren't too many things that piss me off more than someone tailgating me when I'm stuck behind a left-lane camper too.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on March 22, 2012, 11:33:09 PM
I don't tailgate, because it is dangerous and causes road rage; I pass on the shoulder.
I've actually done this once. Fucker was sitting in the left lane for more than 5 minutes doing just above the speed limit. I tried flashing and getting up close. Not sure why the fuck he didn't move over, so I just gunned it and went around him on the shoulder. Never again though
I got tailgated pretty bad the other day by an Asian woman. She was making all kinds of "Now I'm upset because you're in my way, thanks for ruining my day".
Meanwhile the passing lane to my left was completely clear...
(http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/133953929146.jpg)
Quote from: Speed_Racer on June 19, 2012, 01:57:46 PM
I got tailgated pretty bad the other day by an Asian woman. She was making all kinds of "Now I'm upset because you're in my way, thanks for ruining my day".
Meanwhile the passing lane to my left was completely clear...
(http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/133953929146.jpg)
Asian women have to be the worst drivers out there.... :lol:
Quote from: Speed_Racer on June 19, 2012, 01:57:46 PM
I got tailgated pretty bad the other day by an Asian woman. She was making all kinds of "Now I'm upset because you're in my way, thanks for ruining my day".
Meanwhile the passing lane to my left was completely clear...
(http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/133953929146.jpg)
lol
Quote from: SVT_Power on June 18, 2012, 04:24:18 PM
I've actually done this once. Fucker was sitting in the left lane for more than 5 minutes doing just above the speed limit. I tried flashing and getting up close. Not sure why the fuck he didn't move over, so I just gunned it and went around him on the shoulder. Never again though
Done it on the bike. A little easier. :lol:
Quote from: SVT_Power on June 18, 2012, 04:24:18 PM
I've actually done this once. Fucker was sitting in the left lane for more than 5 minutes doing just above the speed limit. I tried flashing and getting up close. Not sure why the fuck he didn't move over, so I just gunned it and went around him on the shoulder. Never again though
What was in the right lane?
Quote from: HotRodPilot on June 19, 2012, 08:56:10 PM
What was in the right lane?
Traffic?
Also I hate passing in the right because I can't see what the hell is on the right if I were to pull out to the right
Quote from: SVT_Power on June 19, 2012, 09:06:38 PM
Traffic?
Also I hate passing in the right because I can't see what the hell is on the right if I were to pull out to the right
Was dude passing traffic? As long as the left lane dude is still passing traffic I give him a break.
I've been driving the MDX lately, and I guess I've either been in a bad mood or driving an SUV induces rage in me, but every time I've gotten cut off, I'll tail gate the shit out of whoever just cut me off.
In the Miata I'll just downshift, floor it and pass and not think twice, but I guess the SUV is more intimidating so I like taking my anger out on the asshole who just cut me off.
Quote from: thecarnut on June 21, 2012, 07:40:30 PM
I've been driving the MDX lately, and I guess I've either been in a bad mood or driving an SUV induces rage in me, but every time I've gotten cut off, I'll tail gate the shit out of whoever just cut me off.
In the Miata I'll just downshift, floor it and pass and not think twice, but I guess the SUV is more intimidating so I like taking my anger out on the asshole who just cut me off.
I don't think you're the only person who is somehow induced to drive this way when they get behind the wheel of an SUV.
Quote from: dazzleman on June 21, 2012, 08:15:36 PM
I don't think you're the only person who is somehow induced to drive this way when they get behind the wheel of an SUV.
I think that it happens to most people. Worse with pickups.
Quote from: Northlands on May 04, 2012, 09:38:23 PM
I'm too impatient for that. I love horns. It takes them a few seconds but most people will move. I guess most initially don't expect to be honked at. :praise:
There is no quicker way to get me to be a major pain in the ass than to come up behind me and honk.
Quote from: thecarnut on June 21, 2012, 07:40:30 PM
I've been driving the MDX lately, and I guess I've either been in a bad mood or driving an SUV induces rage in me, but every time I've gotten cut off, I'll tail gate the shit out of whoever just cut me off.
In the Miata I'll just downshift, floor it and pass and not think twice, but I guess the SUV is more intimidating so I like taking my anger out on the asshole who just cut me off.
That always amuses me. Some dude with little man syndrome in a big honking SUV that thinks he can intimidate me off the road. I used to get it from time to time when driving the Civic.
Guess what? I'm unimpressed. I've driven trucks with gross weights over a quarter million pounds. Do you think I drove that around like I had something to prove? No: because the last thing I wanted to do was to squash a family of five on their way to the beach. if you feel like a big man driving your shopping mall assault vehicle, all I can do is snicker.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 22, 2012, 04:44:41 PM
That always amuses me. Some dude with little man syndrome in a big honking SUV that thinks he can intimidate me off the road. I used to get it from time to time when driving the Civic.
Guess what? I'm unimpressed. I've driven trucks with gross weights over a quarter million pounds. Do you think I drove that around like I had something to prove? No: because the last thing I wanted to do was to squash a family of five on their way to the beach. if you feel like a big man driving your shopping mall assault vehicle, all I can do is snicker.
Where in that post did I say that's how I drive all the time?
No, when I'm in the MDX, usually on the highway I set the cruise to 65 mph and putter along in the right lane and relax. However, since it is an SUV, I'm particularly careful about leaving a lot of distance between me and the person in front of me (probably overcompensating the distance after being so used to the Miata and it's awesome brakes), so assholes view that as an invitation to squeeze into my safety space and cut me off. That's when I get mad and tailgate and/or cut them off. Probably not great behavior, but I never said that I drive like an asshole because I'm in an SUV. It's when someone pisses me off that I'm much more likely to retaliate. Otherwise I just drive slowly and much more relaxed than I would in the Miata.
Quote from: thecarnut on June 22, 2012, 05:25:39 PM
Where in that post did I say that's how I drive all the time?
Nowhere. Does it matter?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 22, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
Nowhere. Does it matter?
Yes. Thanks for the condescension.
Quote from: thecarnut on June 22, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
Yes. Thanks for the condescension.
You asked. How is answering your question condescending?
I just find it amusing when people think they can get away with driving more or less aggressively depending on the size of the vehicle they're driving.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 22, 2012, 05:53:28 PM
You asked. How is answering your question condescending?
I just find it amusing when people think they can get away with driving more or less aggressively depending on the size of the vehicle they're driving.
I think it's the high up seating position.
Quote from: thecarnut on June 22, 2012, 06:29:01 PM
I think it's the high up seating position.
Maybe. I also find it seems to happen more with women, and that the vehicle most likely to be driven by an asshole is a red dodge pickup.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 22, 2012, 07:23:54 PM
Maybe. I also find it seems to happen more with women, and that the vehicle most likely to be driven by an asshole is a red dodge pickup.
The high position, and the belief that you're somehow invulnerable because your vehicle is so big. I hate that mentality. Safety is for everybody on the road, not just yourself.
SUV drivers are particularly bad. My favorite is the way many of them think they can drive fast on snow because they have 4-wheel drive. Asshole, 4-wheel drive only helps you get going; it doesn't help you to stop.
Quote from: dazzleman on June 22, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
The high position, and the belief that you're somehow invulnerable because your vehicle is so big. I hate that mentality. Safety is for everybody on the road, not just yourself.
SUV drivers are particularly bad. My favorite is the way many of them think they can drive fast on snow because they have 4-wheel drive. Asshole, 4-wheel drive only helps you get going; it doesn't help you to stop.
It's a Jeep thing. You need to turn your brain off to understand.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on June 22, 2012, 09:16:14 PM
It's a Jeep thing. You need to turn your brain off to understand.
real Jeeps (read Wranglers and things named CJ-anything) are actually really scary in the snow. Short wheelbase, quick steering, and high center of gravity.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 22, 2012, 09:28:34 PM
real Jeeps (read Wranglers and things named CJ-anything) are actually really scary in the snow. Short wheelbase, quick steering, and high center of gravity.
My dad sold our Cherokee to a neighbor's daughter. She wasn't so fond of it after spinning through an intersection the first time she drove it in the snow.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 22, 2012, 09:28:34 PM
real Jeeps (read Wranglers and things named CJ-anything) are actually really scary in the snow. Short wheelbase, quick steering, and high center of gravity.
This man knows his stuff.
Though I'd counter that they're great in
off road snow conditions.
Quote from: GoCougs on June 23, 2012, 01:07:09 PM
This man knows his stuff.
Though I'd counter that they're great in off road snow conditions.
Oh yeah, they're great at low speeds, they're great for climbing out of a ditch or over a snow bank. They're great at a lot of things.
Somehow though, a vehicle that works well at 2 MPH tends to get twitchy at highway speeds.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 22, 2012, 09:28:34 PM
real Jeeps (read Wranglers and things named CJ-anything) are actually really scary in the snow. Short wheelbase, quick steering, and high center of gravity.
One of my buddies in college rolled his... twice :lol:
Another got his on two wheels on an exit ramp. That is nothing I ever want to be a part of ever again.
I caught myself tailgating the fuck out of left-lane campers this past weekend. Actually, I thought of this thread. I think it somewhat helps that the GTI has an aggressive front fascia and HIDs. :lol:
Thing is, it's effective at getting those fuckers to move over 6/10 times.
HIDs are in fact pretty annoying, so I bet that helped. Honestly, for the most part, I don't have to tailgate much on the way back from Cheyoming. Most people move over promptly.
Quote from: J86 on June 23, 2012, 05:41:57 PM
One of my buddies in college rolled his... twice :lol:
Another got his on two wheels on an exit ramp. That is nothing I ever want to be a part of ever again.
Consecutively?
You know what's more annoying that HIDs? Today I passed a cop on the side of the road with his spotlight on. A couple of other cars passed by and then he pulled out (assuming he had just finished a traffic stop). Those other cars ended up turning off at some point, so he was right behind me with his spotlight still on. Luckily it was still light outside so it wasn't really a big deal, but annoying nonetheless. Plus I had to stick to the speed limit. :lol:
Quote from: CALL_911 on June 23, 2012, 05:58:16 PM
I caught myself tailgating the fuck out of left-lane campers this past weekend. Actually, I thought of this thread. I think it somewhat helps that the GTI has an aggressive front fascia and HIDs. :lol:
Thing is, it's effective at getting those fuckers to move over 6/10 times.
I was super aggressive this week. Today in particular. They got two Mississippis before I made a move around them. I actually did have a Golf get out of my way when I was going to pass him on the right though.
It is amazing though, how many "aggressive" drivers are so poor at moving through traffic. They don't look forward. They drive up, slam on the brakes, drive slowly, and then move right or left to pass. Whereas if you're looking forward, you can move right or left to pass without ever having to slow down.
I thought I was going to get rearended today. I took off from a red light and a woman in a Rogue accelerated in lockstep with me very close to my rear bumper.
But there comes a time when I have to do the 1-2 shift, and during that break in acceleration I thought she was going to make contact. :facepalm:
Why can't people just chill out. The following light was red anyways.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on June 23, 2012, 09:47:30 PM
Consecutively?
Nah, rolled it once sophomore year, once junior or senior year. Well, one time it just fell on its side, but I'll count it :lol:. He had the thing lifted slightly on 33 or 35" mudders. Go blasting around fields trying to get stuck. When you do stupid stuff so frequently, the odds of something stupid happening increase dramatically :lol:
Quote from: Raza on June 23, 2012, 11:36:36 PM
It is amazing though, how many "aggressive" drivers are so poor at moving through traffic. They don't look forward. They drive up, slam on the brakes, drive slowly, and then move right or left to pass. Whereas if you're looking forward, you can move right or left to pass without ever having to slow down.
Exactly right.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=27048.msg1737660#msg1737660 date=1340362344
I think that it happens to most people. Worse with pickups.
Opposite with me. Pickup = no fun to drive (on road) = why bother trying to go as fast as possible? Small car/sports car is the opposite.
Quote from: Rupert on June 25, 2012, 12:47:27 AM
Opposite with me. Pickup = no fun to drive (on road) = why bother trying to go as fast as possible?
Unfortunately there are a lot of wannabe blue collar hero "manly men," presumably not-well-endowed, who disagree.
Quote from: TurboDan on June 25, 2012, 10:04:17 AM
Unfortunately there are a lot of wannabe blue collar hero "manly men," presumably not-well-endowed, who disagree.
I came across one, but it was a "manly woman." We were in stop-n-go traffic, and she would allow some space to develop between her truck and mine, and then pretend to ram me by flooring the truck and then slamming on the brakes just before hitting my bumper to intimidate me. My windows were open, so she was also yelling out her window to me "you pussy ass bitch" etc.
The upper-middle class dude in the Mercedes next to me thought it was hilarious as well. I thought it was a bit scary-hilarious.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on June 30, 2012, 08:31:51 PM
I came across one, but it was a "manly woman." We were in stop-n-go traffic, and she would allow some space to develop between her truck and mine, and then pretend to ram me by flooring the truck and then slamming on the brakes just before hitting my bumper to intimidate me. My windows were open, so she was also yelling out her window to me "you pussy ass bitch" etc.
The upper-middle class dude in the Mercedes next to me thought it was hilarious as well. I thought it was a bit scary-hilarious.
Did this happen in NOLA?
Yup. She was definitely an out-of-towner, though.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on June 30, 2012, 08:31:51 PM
I came across one, but it was a "manly woman." We were in stop-n-go traffic, and she would allow some space to develop between her truck and mine, and then pretend to ram me by flooring the truck and then slamming on the brakes just before hitting my bumper to intimidate me. My windows were open, so she was also yelling out her window to me "you pussy ass bitch" etc.
The upper-middle class dude in the Mercedes next to me thought it was hilarious as well. I thought it was a bit scary-hilarious.
Probably on testosterone supplements. Nothing is more aggressive (or comical) than a butch dyke in a rage.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 30, 2012, 09:49:51 PM
Probably on testosterone supplements. Nothing is more aggressive (or comical) than a butch dyke in a rage.
:lol:
An obnoxious cab driver blared his horn at me today, evidently because I took longer than .0000002 seconds to react to a green light. The strange part was he didn't even seem to be in a hurry. I left the line in 2nd and he just vanished in my rearview. Not an easy feat in the Aveo.
Quote from: Tave on July 01, 2012, 08:00:40 PM
An obnoxious cab driver blared his horn at me today, evidently because I took longer than .0000002 seconds to react to a green light. The strange part was he didn't even seem to be in a hurry. I left the line in 2nd and he just vanished in my rearview. Not an easy feat in the Aveo.
...and I doubt you're a slow or nonresponsive driver...
I give people at least 5 seconds before they get the honk.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on July 02, 2012, 11:29:08 PM
I give people at least 5 seconds before they get the honk.
5 seconds!?
For me it depends on the light. Average men's reaction to a traffic light is 1 second, for women it's 3 seconds. I bridge the gap and give them two seconds on most lights. There is, however, one light that you will sit at for five solid minutes if you don't get through, and it's a 15 second green or something ludicrous like that. Four cars can get through if they all jump at it and the fourth guy enters on a yellow. That's a half second. Once I get to "1 Missis.." it's on the horn. Throw your hands up at me like "I was playing with my cock/flicking my bean/smacking my clam/texting, what do you want from me?" and you get fucking followed home, murdered in front of your family, and eaten by a pack of wild dogs.
I have been passing really slow cars on the motorcycle on single lane roads with double yellow lines. I can usually blow around them pretty quick, sometimes not even crossing the lines. This is probably stupid and illegal. But satisfying. :huh:
More satisfying than yelling "Get the *uck out of the way, you ignorant SOB!" :mrcool:
Quote from: shp4man on July 06, 2012, 10:12:18 AM
I have been passing really slow cars on the motorcycle on single lane roads with double yellow lines. I can usually blow around them pretty quick, sometimes not even crossing the lines. This is probably stupid and illegal. But satisfying. :huh:
More satisfying than yelling "Get the *uck out of the way, you ignorant SOB!" :mrcool:
aged hippie.... :nono: