Forget the ice bucket. Try a crap bucket!
Okay, it's not literally a bucket full of crap. That would be disgusting. But I am throwing down the gauntlet to see if anyone can buy a better beater for the money.
But first, a little background. A co-worker of mine has more cars than the local Carmax outlet. Lo and behold, a 93-year-old relative of his passes away and leaves my co-worker his car, a mid-1990s Lexus ES300. Problem is he already has too many cars cluttering up his driveway and needs to get shot of at least one of them. The one he wants to unload is his current daily driver, a 1998 Ford Escort SE sedan, automatic with 137,000 miles.
Out of idle curiosity, I ask him how much he wants for it. He pulls out his phone to check the book value and it says it's worth $865. Half-jokingly, I said "I'll give you $800 cash for it." Well, the next thing I knew, I was the owner of a 1998 Ford Escort SE sedan!
What the hell have I done?!?!?!?!? :mask:
So, without further adieu, here it is in all of its grey-ish glory!
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Golf-ball-sized divot on hood.
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Cosmetic damage from when my co-worker's mother-in-law skidded on some ice last winter and clipped a mailbox.
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Plug for a block heater I found under the front bumper, indicating this was once a Northern car.
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The oily bits. Eight valve SOHC 2.0 Ford CVH engine. 110 raging horsepowers!!!!
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So, what's it like? Well, it's terrible! Hey, what do you expect? Everything about this car looks and feels like it was subcontracted out to the lowest bidder. But that's okay with me. This is only going to be for commuting and keeping the miles (and the wear and tear) off my Passat. It is strictly a cheap, disposable, throw-away car. The minute something expensive goes POP, off to the scrappie it goes.
So, it seems if you're prepared to REALLY lower your standards, you can still pick up a serviceable beater for the price of a decent laptop.
Looks pretty nice for its age, scrape aside -- I hope it treats you well!
Looks good for 800 bucks......
It blends in so well with asphalt.
Not bad for a 21-22 year old car.
Quote from: FoMoJo on September 18, 2014, 05:32:29 AM
It blends in so well with asphalt.
Not bad for a 21-22 year old car.
It's only 16 years old though. :mask:
Quote from: thecarnut on September 18, 2014, 07:00:39 AM
It's only 16 years old though. :mask:
Ah yes. For some reason, I took the 93 year old relative as the year of the car. I have no excuse. :(
Thanks, guys.
The is something strangely liberating about driving a car you don't give two shits about. I no longer live in terror of supermarket parking door dings. Dump trucks spewing debris in their wake? Who cares! Go ahead world, bring it on!!!
Congrats, I guess
"This is only going to be for commuting and keeping the miles (and the wear and tear) off my Passat."
I don't understand this logic; it's a Passat wagon, not a Ferrari! It was designed for commuting etc. It's not even like the thing is brand new, why would you care about keeping the wear and tear/miles off the Passat?
Those Escorts are servicable little cars. Focus MK1 was a godsend, though.
Love it. Seriously.
It seems, not sure though, but it seems the tires are balding. Bad tires give me the heebie jeebies. Makes me very anxious. Replacing them would cost half the value of the car though.
Quote from: CALL_911 on September 18, 2014, 07:35:31 AM
Congrats, I guess
"This is only going to be for commuting and keeping the miles (and the wear and tear) off my Passat."
I don't understand this logic; it's a Passat wagon, not a Ferrari! It was designed for commuting etc. It's not even like the thing is brand new, why would you care about keeping the wear and tear/miles off the Passat?
With an older car, you're very well aware that each mile driven brings it closer to DEATH.
Would you have bought the car if it were a 1974 Dodge Monaco!? :praise: :lol:
Congrats on the "new" ride! :mrcool:
Neutral slam or it didn't happen.
Quote from: CALL_911 on September 18, 2014, 07:35:31 AM
Congrats, I guess
"This is only going to be for commuting and keeping the miles (and the wear and tear) off my Passat."
I don't understand this logic; it's a Passat wagon, not a Ferrari! It was designed for commuting etc. It's not even like the thing is brand new, why would you care about keeping the wear and tear/miles off the Passat?
+1. The 11 year old Passat should be the one getting miles piled on it to keep the miles off of something that is actually cool.
Quote from: ifcar on September 18, 2014, 10:11:33 AM
With an older car, you're very well aware that each mile driven brings it closer to DEATH.
That's true with all cars.
Don't know why the age makes any difference.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 18, 2014, 04:21:45 PM
That's true with all cars.
Don't know why the age makes any difference.
It's like how a 75-year-old is generally more aware of and concerned by his mortality than someone at 25. Sure, it's the same number of days before the end, all things considered, but each remaining day is more obviously closer to it.
And on another more automotive note, it makes a difference if you intend to sell your car at some point regardless -- as most people do, especially those buying new -- rather than drive it into the ground.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 18, 2014, 04:21:45 PM
That's true with all cars.
Don't know why the age makes any difference.
Cars don't die unless they're completely rusted out, crushed, or melted.
People just give up on them.
Huge :rolleyes: to anyone who's rationalizing this purchase as "keeping miles off" another vehicle that could very well be a beater.
Heh, a beater to preserve a beater. I like it. :lol:
Not the Escort, though. That is a shameful car. Enjoy the hollow plastic dash.
Quote from: ifcar on September 18, 2014, 04:41:35 PM
It's like how a 75-year-old is generally more aware of and concerned by his mortality than someone at 25. Sure, it's the same number of days before the end, all things considered, but each remaining day is more obviously closer to it.
And on another more automotive note, it makes a difference if you intend to sell your car at some point regardless -- as most people do, especially those buying new -- rather than drive it into the ground.
Hell, the dude buying new takes a bath every single day because of depreciation, whether he drives it or not.
You buy a beater to beat on it, or because you just happen to like it, or to keep the miles off of your newly restored vintage Porsche during the winter. Or, maybe: as I suspect is the case here: because the thought of getting a cheap that works is a novelty unto itself.
LOL these little pieces of shit. My crazy first gf in Ohio had one of these. Her parents put these shitty tires on it that would chirp betwen 1st and 2nd. I remember the heater got HOT. Like burn your hands hot. I totalled it when I pulled out in front of some lady doing 45 in a 30.
I like how the two rich kids are putting the guy down for wanting to keep miles off of his Passat.
My god, this is a bickering bunch. It's worse than a Real Housewives book club here.
Congrats, Madman. You do you, man. If you love your Passat and want to preserve it, go for it.
Quote from: HotRodPilot on September 20, 2014, 09:34:14 PM
I like how the two rich kids are putting the guy down for wanting to keep miles off of his Passat.
If you are referring to me as one of the rich kids, I'm probably poorer than everyone else here thanks to how much I owe the government. :huh:
I probably have one of the oldest DD's here as well. :huh:
Quote from: HotRodPilot on September 20, 2014, 09:34:14 PM
I like how the two rich kids are putting the guy down for wanting to keep miles off of his Passat.
Yeah, because it totally makes sense to preserve a 2003 Passat Wagon. Should I also buy a used auxiliary garbage can to protect my existing one?
Look, if the dude wanted an Escort, great. But if he's saying it's an intelligent, rational purchase, it certainly isn't
stop being cunts for teeny bitchy reasons jeez
Try to keep your valve seats in place, and take it rallycrossing.
Quote from: CALL_911 on September 21, 2014, 12:02:50 AM
Yeah, because it totally makes sense to preserve a 2003 Passat Wagon. Should I also buy a used auxiliary garbage can to protect my existing one?
Look, if the dude wanted an Escort, great. But if he's saying it's an intelligent, rational purchase, it certainly isn't
Who are you to judge what car someone else considers valuable to them and worth preserving? And it's not like we're talking about two $50,000 pickup trucks here.
Not a bad deal at all Madman. The best part is no matter what you do to that little sucker, you won't feel any remorse.
Make it into a rallycross car and take it off some sweet jumps. :devil:
There are three main ITT contextual issues with an FYA beater:
1.) Life's too short to drive crappy car if you don't have to (i.e., to sacrifice safety, performance, comfort, etc.).
2.) No car is worth preserving and it certainly isn't done by putting less miles on it.
3.) The first (and likely last) time it pukes it'll probably leave you stranded which will have a cost (opportunity and otherwise) and then you'll have to pay to have it towed to the junk yard.
Quote from: thecarnut on September 21, 2014, 06:44:16 AM
Make it into a rallycross car and take it off some sweet jumps. :devil:
This.
Really? No car is worth preserving?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 22, 2014, 12:04:16 AM
Really? No car is worth preserving?
It's illogical. Logical people drive Accords and that's all there is to it.
Oval radio FTW.
Congrats. Proper beater.
Wow, I never expected a thread about a shitty old beater I picked up on a whim would ever be so popular!
However, I think some of you are misinterpreting my comment about "preserving" the Passat. Yes, I'm fully aware this isn't some kind of collector car and I will probably be replacing it sometime within the next year, depending on how soon the right car comes along. And don't ask me what the "right" car is because I don't even know myself. All I know is I will know it when I see it.
So far, the Escort is performing the role of commuter car and errand runner, at least for the errands which don't require the Passat's huge wagonesque load bay. Impressions? Well the Escort is HILARIOUSLY awful! Look, I fully understand this car was built down to a price. But did it really have to be this bad? The thing that really blows my mind about cars like this is the fact that somebody back in 1998 walked into a Ford showroom and actually paid somewhere around $14,000 ($20,430 in today's money) for this heap-o-shite! The penny-pinching miser in me thinks of all the very nice used cars you can buy with that sort of cash.
All I can say is it's a good thing this car has airbags because the plastic used to make the dashboard is nearly as hard as the steel dash in my old 1952 Chevy! And the interior door handles are the flimsiest I've seen in ANY car. It's a miracle they aren't all broken yet. The Ford CVH engine is living up to it's loud and thrashy reputation by being louder and thrashier than a garage-based heavy metal rock band. It's a pity all that noise doesn't translate into forward motion. If it did, my daily commute would be a helluva lot faster! Remember the old saying about how much fun it is to drive a slow car fast? Well, I can confirm this is true!
Since their is so much interest in my humble little crapmobile, I'll make sure to post any new developments in this space.
In all fairness, I don't think anybody was paying MSRP for those.
Also this was a better car than the 1998 Chevy Crapalier or 1998 Dodge Peeon.
Quote from: veeman on September 23, 2014, 05:06:00 PM
Also this was a better car than the 1998 Chevy Crapalier or 1998 Dodge Peeon.
IMO Neon > Escort > Cavalier
At least the Cavalier had the 2.4L.
It's an $800 shitbox. Why do you guys care so much? I would beat the shit out of it and dump it when it goes boom.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on September 23, 2014, 05:08:13 PM
IMO Neon > Escort > Cavalier
I really miss my Neon sometimes.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 23, 2014, 02:33:41 PM
In all fairness, I don't think anybody was paying MSRP for those.
They always had at least 2-3 grand off from what I remember from the newspaper ads.
I'm not a dashstroaker by any means, but damn! DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! All that CHEAPNESS of the cabin.... DAMN!!! :lol:
Yeah, I realize this thing was built to a price and that someone buying this thing wouldn't care about the interior quality much. But still - DAMN! That's just NASTILY CHEAP! :lol:
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 22, 2014, 12:04:16 AM
Really? No car is worth preserving?
No, not really. The add'l cost of having a beater will more than offset the "preserved" value of primary car (or most any primary car).
Quote from: Madman on September 17, 2014, 10:02:57 PM
Cosmetic damage from when my co-worker's mother-in-law skidded on some ice last winter and clipped a mailbox.
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I always wondered where scrapes like that come from!!
Congrats! (Sorry!) :lol:
Like said, it's nice to not have to worry about breaking a car. I'd take it out in the woods, dirtroads, etc...
Also a HUGE bonus is just having the option when you walk out the door "Which car should I take???"
-I found this VERY satisfying when I still had Miata.
You can definitely find way worse ways to spend 800 bucks. That thing looks remarkable for the money. Not a bad buy at all. I still see these things on the road locally. They're reasonably tough.
Quote from: Madman on September 17, 2014, 10:02:57 PM
Forget the ice bucket. Try a crap bucket!
Cosmetic damage from when my co-worker's mother-in-law skidded on some ice last winter and clipped a mailbox.
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Fortunately for you they sell Bondo in gallon buckets.