Quote from: Madman on May 13, 2024, 08:27:51 AMLooking over Nissan's current product portfolio, it becomes readily apparent the Rogue is their only competitive product.  Everything else is either roundly trounced by the competition, or is as old as the hills.  It's obvious Nissan won't (or can't) spend money on product development and frequently resorts to the "mutton dressed as lamb" approach by clothing very old underpinnings in new bodywork.

Look at the Nissan Z.  The 2023 model is effectively a reskin of the 2009 370Z, which itself was based on a slightly modified version of the 2003 350Z platform.  Likewise, the Z's VR engine is an evolution of the VQ engine which is now 30 years old.  So what we have here is a new body masking a very old car underneath.

I got stuck with a Nissan Kicks rental car last year and I can't even begin to fathom why anyone would spend their own money for one.  Wait, I can think on ONE reason.....

Living in Middle Tennessee, I am in Nissan Central.  Their US headquarters is in Franklin and there's a massive production facility in Smyrna, plus the engine plant in Decherd.  Just about everyone here is either related to someone or knows someone who can swing them a killer Friends & Family discount on a new Nissan.  This explains why, like cockroaches in a Waffle House, these damned Nissans are EVERYWHERE in my neck of the woods!

Even with this incentive, I still have no burning desire to buy one.

Yes, a lot of people in Middle Tennessee drive Nissans. Like all things, Nissan fell into a situation where they had to focus on being profitable versus being interesting. I fail to see what they offer much to the enthusiasts even though they have made vehicles over time that I felt were engaging and interesting.

If I was going to buy a Nissan now it would be an Pro 4x Xterra. A true utility vehicle that is half the price of a FJ or 4Runner. It's a shame they do not make them anymore.

Rented a chrysler voyager (bascially a fleet only base pacifica) on vacation. And it's currently already broken.  Electric parking brake won't release.  Looking online it seems like some electrical gremlin that either letting the car sit for a while or disconnecting the battery may fix.  I'm too tired to deal with it today. Gonna see what it does in the morning.

Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 14, 2024, 07:13:48 PMI should get an Elise. Perpetually $30-40k.

Why an Elise when you can get an Elan for about the same price...







They're magic.

Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 14, 2024, 07:13:48 PMI should get an Elise. Perpetually $30-40k.

Yeah that one's up to $35k now with 6hours left.

Quote from: Morris Minor on May 17, 2024, 05:58:38 AMIs Stellantis going to put the new Hurricane straight-six into the Grand Cherokee? Allegedly it was designed to fit anywhere the Pentastar V6 is used (or the 5.7 Hemi for that matter.) It's in the Grand Wagoneer & RAM 1500, but I think it would be really compelling in the GC - especially the 2-row.

It seems like there is a strong possibility it at least makes it to the L as the Hemi is dead.

The rumor mill has announcements soon, but all I read has been dropping the Pentastar for a 2.0T as the base engine with the PHEV being the optional engine.  No mention yet of the hurricane.


I may me reluctantly pulling the trigger on a PHEV GC very soon.  It is mediocre at a PHEV, but cheaper way to get a few options than a similar equipped Pentastar version after all the rebates.  Competition is surprisingly small - everything is either substantially larger/smaller/pricier

Is Stellantis going to put the new Hurricane straight-six into the Grand Cherokee? Allegedly it was designed to fit anywhere the Pentastar V6 is used (or the 5.7 Hemi for that matter.) It's in the Grand Wagoneer & RAM 1500, but I think it would be really compelling in the GC - especially the 2-row.

Same thing happened on my GLS.  Took it to Town Fair Tire and they said it shouldn't be an issue.

I should get an Elise. Perpetually $30-40k.

Elise in Indiana!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/315358071473?itmmeta=01HXWH74KDJJC4R5SPHC8XEY4Y&hash=item496cce4ab1:g:1eYAAOSwq15mPubm&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA0IlDXCIOPv%2BE9oCagtqwUEqTx2CweKsIEpWxboTYGbDY5ogpKU2Tje%2FOA4zYeLXlb96IJyw%2BcpIdWi13Bgl53GHblfULaB0EC5Wi3mngyrOZiLhGYG2C2tZEcsW0D3OHo0z2gPrlTxH5%2Fayo%2Ft%2FAcuBTO1COgid89McA4zyTS7v2zVGEg7qC90rBNUqzCBplOKE1Vu7iu1yFctaVQnMlKj7O5%2BgAkuJcidNzo9jP4vdDYxaKHFgTWOzRtHyl8U8qrDCQHXhXbJCIGT0BcGSfkfQ%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-TJnJHvYw

Plenty of Nissans driven by a certain demographic around here.

I'd still buy one of these if they were cheap

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