A little late, but :huh:
A nice gesture...Hamilton dedicates record lap to Boseman after taking Belgian GP pole (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/more-sports/hamilton-dedicates-record-lap-to-boseman-after-taking-belgian-gp-pole/ar-BB18uNVK?ocid=msedgdhp)
It's Spa-Francorchamps, well worth watching.
Exciting Tuscan Gran Prix...https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2020/09/13/f1-tuscan-grand-prix-2020-live-mugello-ferrari-results/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2020/09/13/f1-tuscan-grand-prix-2020-live-mugello-ferrari-results/)
Looks like an amazing track, but crash after crash right from the start.
Hamilton wins his 7th F1 Championship title...https://www.cbc.ca/sports/lewis-hamilton-f1-grand-prix-world-title-1.5802733 (https://www.cbc.ca/sports/lewis-hamilton-f1-grand-prix-world-title-1.5802733)
A few years ago, I didn't think it would be possible to tie Schumacher's record.
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 15, 2020, 11:39:36 AM
Hamilton wins his 7th F1 Championship title...https://www.cbc.ca/sports/lewis-hamilton-f1-grand-prix-world-title-1.5802733 (https://www.cbc.ca/sports/lewis-hamilton-f1-grand-prix-world-title-1.5802733)
A few years ago, I didn't think it would be possible to tie Schumacher's record.
Or surpass 91 wins.
Was a really great race as well.
Lewis is on an episode of "My Next Guest with David Letterman" on Netflix. Good episode.
What happens when a great driver is hooked up with a great car
Congrats to Hamilton, but also I think it's hard to compare to previous eras. The 1.6L engines seem to be nightmare for everyone but Mercedes. I'd really like to see them improve the rules to improve competition. Whether that's deregulation and allowing other engine types, or making them less complicated.
Yes but the Mercedes does not drive itself. There are currently more then 100 points between Hamilton and Bottas, and Hamilton also beat Schumacher in a Mercedes. The only Mercedes driver who bested Hamilton was Rosberg, and he retired immediately after winning the drivers championship, throwing away a 23 million per year contract. He later said that it was simply to mentally exhausting to continuously drive at Hamilton's level.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 15, 2020, 04:06:10 PM
Congrats to Hamilton, but also I think it's hard to compare to previous eras. The 1.6L engines seem to be nightmare for everyone but Mercedes. I'd really like to see them improve the rules to improve competition. Whether that's deregulation and allowing other engine types, or making them less complicated.
Each F1 era has it's unique characteristics, an F1 era being defined usually by major technological rules changes. When I first noticed F1, all the talk was about Drivers like Fangio and Moss. When I took a more serious interest, it was Jimmy Clark. There were many great drivers over the years, but some stood above even those, Senna, Schumacher, now Hamilton. I believe what they had in common was an extraordinary sense for feeling the road, that extra touch that let them know what the limit was and the ability to drive on the limit. This is demonstrated by their ability to drive in the wet.
It was said of Clark that during one wet race, I can't remember which, he finished a full 2, or 4 or 7 minutes ahead of the pack. I'll have to look it up again. As well, he often used the same tires for more than one race, he had such a sensitive touch. Schumacher was the "rain master" as was Senna. Hamilton has that same skill. Clark will always be "the best" imo, but Hamilton comes the closest to him.
I want to see minimum cylinder count rules. At least 9 cylinders per engine and a minimum of one carburetor per cylinder.
I can not fathom how R.G. didn't die today... That was a full on Michael Bay hollywood explosion
https://youtu.be/ynf_ykb2eRU
I'm surprised there was that much flame. At least he was able to get out, not like Bandini at Monaco.
hell of a fire suit
That was a Helmuth Koenigg at Watkins Glen 1974 crash. When he stood up in the flames I couldn't believe it.
There's no argument with the halo in this one. It saved his life.
No videos of the crash anymore, all taken down
New link...
https://youtu.be/HnfHMC02Mj4
Amazing to see...
"Grosjean describes halo as 'greatest thing' from hospital bed, saying he 'wouldn't be here without it' | Formula 1®" https://amp.formula1.com/en/latest/article.grosjean-describes-halo-as-greatest-thing-from-hospital-bed-saying-he.5MK7YgW3eTYADMLzifORes.html
Yes, that's his shoe.
So now with Louis Hamilton out of Commission with COVID-19, it has created the interesting scenario that George Russel is being transplanted from the worst car of the grid to the best car of the grid. I do expect Bottas to prevail, he better for his sake.
Could be his big break, Russell that is.
Quote from: Galaxy on December 03, 2020, 06:28:48 PM
I do expect Bottas to prevail, he better for his sake.
Well on paper Russell finished behind Bottas, however Mercedes putting Bottas's tires on Russell's car, and a tire puncture led to this. Russell absolutely destroyed Bottas. Ironically it was Russell's Williams that caused the safety car that led to the Mercedes tire debacle.
What a crazy circus that race was
Arise Sir Lewis: Hamilton given knighthood in new year honours list (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/dec/30/arise-sir-lewis-hamilton-given-knighthood-in-new-year-honours-list)
"We're Not as Quick as Red Bull," Says Mercedes in Obvious Lie (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/more-sports/we-re-not-as-quick-as-red-bull-says-mercedes-in-obvious-lie/ar-BB1eJfdf?ocid=msedgdhp)
Should be an interesting year...The first qualifying session of the 2021 season was a doozy. (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/more-sports/formula-1-qualifying-results-starting-grid-for-2021-bahrain-grand-prix/ar-BB1f25oK?ocid=msedgdhp)
It would seem the Mercedes still has the most speed potential, however it is quite the Diva to drive.
Great race... Should be an entertaining year.
Lewis drive like a champion
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a35966560/sandwich-wrapper-fernando-alonso-f1/
The first Formula 1 race of 2021 happened on Sunday, and with it came two-time world champion Fernando Alonso's return to the sport since his retirement in 2019. Alonso, hoping to score points in his first outing with Alpine, was forced to retire mid-race thanks to overheating brakes. And it was for the dumbest reason.
After going over the car in a post-race analysis, Alpine discovered the cause of the problem. It wasn't a faulty part, Alonso's driving style, or anything else like that. No, it was a discarded sandwich wrapper that had gotten lodged in one of the rear brake ducts. Talk about bad luck.
:facepalm:
I don't really follow Formula 1, but that Netflix show Drive to Survive is really well done. I enjoy the shit out of that.
There are so many good race tracks, and the USA has so many good race tacks, but stating from 2022 there will be a Miami GP in the parking lot of the Miami Dolphins. That will be another artificial contraption. :banghead:
Quote from: Galaxy on April 19, 2021, 12:17:57 AM
There are so many good race tracks, and the USA has so many good race tacks, but stating from 2022 there will be a Miami GP in the parking lot of the Miami Dolphins. That will be another artificial contraption. :banghead:
What...a parking lot? Are they having an "Autocross" format?
Go Lando!!!
Yea, seriously a parking lot race ala the crap show that indycar puts on where it is absolutely impossible to pass on a circuit that's too small is a massive failure.... This is like monaco without the prestige
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 19, 2021, 05:59:24 AM
What...a parking lot? Are they having an "Autocross" format?
Oh, they will decorate it but...(https://cdn.the-race.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/18104627/Miami_Map_Corners-1024x634.jpg)
Kinda like the Las Vegas GP used to be like in the 1980s.
No elevation changes or banked turns?
Looks like it.
Of all the great tracks in the USA... They turn to that :facepalm:
I'm wondering where the spectators are going to park.
F1's new engine must 'entertain' or we may as well do FE (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/enthusiasts/red-bull-f1-s-new-engine-must-entertain-or-we-may-as-well-do-fe/ar-AALPuBm?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)
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Red Bull boss Christian Horner says that Formula 1's new 2025 engine needs to be loud and "entertaining" for fans, otherwise teams may as well go and do Formula E.
I think they should get rid of all the electronic nanny gizmos as well, get back to when it was the driver that won the race, not the car.
Red Bull is making a helluva lot of noise about the "racing incident" at Silverstone...Verstappen crash at British GP to be reviewed (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/other/verstappen-crash-at-british-gp-to-be-reviewed/ar-AAMCkDQ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)
Seems like they should be the last ones to complain about driver issues.
Should have been more than a 10 second penalty IMO
Verstappen doesn't seem to take it as well as he dishes out.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 27, 2021, 06:53:38 PM
Should have been more than a 10 second penalty IMO
How so?
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 27, 2021, 07:32:55 PM
How so?
Dive bombing the race leader and taking him out of the race deserves a larger penalty IMO. Especially considering he still came back and won. It's not a good look for the sport when the current dynasty can wipe out the biggest challenger like that. It didn't look like it was on purpose, but Hamilton should know better.
If it wasn't open wheel, I think the move was OK. But you can't do that in an open wheel car.
A 3D depiction...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ikWhv-1w5E&t=25s
A fairly lengthy analysis...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp0GG4y3is8
Looks like the 2nd video was taken down by F1.
The first video shows how wide Hamilton was after the apex. If Max's wheel hadn't of fallen off when it did, he still would have been forced off the track due to Hamilton's ridiculously wide line. At no point was Hamilton's line appropriate for passing on the inside.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 30, 2021, 08:27:42 AM
Looks like the 2nd video was taken down by F1.
The first video shows how wide Hamilton was after the apex. If Max's wheel hadn't of fallen off when it did, he still would have been forced off the track due to Hamilton's ridiculously wide line. At no point was Hamilton's line appropriate for passing on the inside.
If you click on Watch on YouTube, it's there.
As for the collision, both were approaching the corner too fast with heavy fuel loads and cold tires. Lewis was inches off the line and almost broadside to Max. Max made a couple of brief turn ins and Lewis backed off, but clipped Max's rear wheel. This is just aggressive racing on both of them which Max continuously does with the other person usually backing off; they know his reputation. There wouldn't have been a penalty if Max hadn't crashed so hard.
However, this sets the stage for the best F1 competition in years with Red Bull still having a slight advantage in speed. Looking forward to Hungary. Hopefully, Max has stopped feeling sorry for himself by then and can give Lewis a good clean race.
Hamilton should have given more room... Like max did in Austria
https://youtu.be/ABKY6nbKIL4
Or most of these clips...
https://youtu.be/lkAoSghdD6Y
Those deserve penalties too.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 30, 2021, 01:46:01 PM
Those deserve penalties too.
None of them were ever given penalties... Even the ridiculous ones. Funny enough, Max pointed out yesterday that it's unfair that people call him "aggressive" because he never had any penalty points - so he's really the cleanest in F1
Steiner fed up with "too frequent and too heavy" Haas F1 crashes (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/racing/steiner-fed-up-with-too-frequent-and-too-heavy-haas-f1-crashes/ar-AAMNak4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)
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Gunther Steiner says that Haas's crashes are becoming "too frequent and too heavy" after another incident involving Mick Schumacher in final Formula 1 practice for the Hungarian Grand Prix.
Schumacher crashed heavily at Turn 11 during FP3 at the Hungaroring, leaving his Haas VF-21 car with significant damage that meant he ultimately took no part in qualifying.
It marked the second time Schumacher has missed qualifying this year after a crash in FP3, following an accident in Monaco at the end of May. Schumacher also crashed in the opening part of qualifying for the French Grand Prix, meaning he could take no part in Q2 after securing the team's best Saturday result of the year.
.....
I guess Mick didn't get all of Michael's driver genes.
Another exciting race.
A good read...https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2021/aug/01/f1-hungarian-gp-hamilton-and-verstappen-resume-title-duel-live (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2021/aug/01/f1-hungarian-gp-hamilton-and-verstappen-resume-title-duel-live)
Best read from the bottom up.
Does Bottas have to have insurance cover the damage caused by him rear ending someone? :lol:
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 31, 2021, 03:53:22 PM
Steiner fed up with "too frequent and too heavy" Haas F1 crashes (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/racing/steiner-fed-up-with-too-frequent-and-too-heavy-haas-f1-crashes/ar-AAMNak4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)
I guess Mick didn't get all of Michael's driver genes.
Hopefully he didn't inherit Michael's skiing abilities either.
Lando getting punted was a shame
Regarding Hamilton, and Max at Silverstone, personally I would view it more as a racing incident, although I can certainly see who some would say Hamilton was clearly at fault. IMO Max did not have a sufficient lead to claim that he owned that corner. I can see the suspicion though since for Lewis it was almost a match ball. However I do not think there was intent since it could have easily gone the other way.
I do think the 5 place grid penalty for Bottas and Lance today is harsh in light of what they usually hand out for collisions.
I was actually concerned for Hamilton on the Podium today, almost thought that he would collapse.
Seb getting DQ'd is unbelievable. A fuel transfer pump fails which traps a bunch of fuel in an aux tank and because the FIA couldn't pull a sample from the primary tank - he gets DQ'd for fuel tampering???
WTF
Quote from: r0tor on August 02, 2021, 09:54:57 AM
Seb getting DQ'd is unbelievable. A fuel transfer pump fails which traps a bunch of fuel in an aux tank and because the FIA couldn't pull a sample from the primary tank - he gets DQ'd for fuel tampering???
WTF
Disappointing for Vettel, but this is a 40+ year rule that Aston Martin stumbled on.
Plus initially it was the FIA that could not extract the fuel. but later on Aston Martin, under FIA supervision, was given the opportunity to extract more fuel from the car, and they failed.
I think when they asked Vettel to pull over after the race, they knew they were fuel critical.
Quite the wreck today. Glad the halo was implemented along with the other roll hoop structure.
Nice to see McLaren get a win
The FIA needs to slap Max around and tell him to stop driving like a man child.
Loved seeing McLaren back on top!
That sausage curb is dangerous. Wonder if they'll get rid of it?
Don't know... At the end of the day anything is dangerous if you refuse to back out and continue trying to pass while off the track
Stuff that launches the car into the air is bad though
Hamilton moved into verstappens racing line. Verstappen then hits the curb because of this and Hamilton gets hit as a result.
Quote from: Rich on September 12, 2021, 06:30:32 PM
Hamilton moved into verstappens racing line. Verstappen then hits the curb because of this and Hamilton gets hit as a result.
Forced off or not, when you run out of track you have to get out of it and not go for more. Hamilton did that turn 4 on the first lap and a number of other times this year. Max has a long history of out of boundary shenanigans
Quote from: Rich on September 12, 2021, 06:30:32 PM
Hamilton moved into verstappens racing line. Verstappen then hits the curb because of this and Hamilton gets hit as a result.
You can view it both ways, Hamilton moved into Max's line, Max dived into a space that was always going to disappear. Personally I view this and Silverstone as racing incidents, with Silverstone being more Lewis's fault, and this more Max's. I find the grid place penalty a bit harsh though.
Quote from: Galaxy on September 13, 2021, 08:47:12 AM
You can view it both ways, Hamilton moved into Max's line, Max dived into a space that was always going to disappear. Personally I view this and Silverstone as racing incidents, with Silverstone being more Lewis's fault, and this more Max's. I find the grid place penalty a bit harsh though.
Speed is a factor. Any driver will take a corner at optimal speed using the optimal racing line. Any variance will likely cause a mishap. I suspect that Lewis was at top speed through that corner where Max was always going to have to jump the curb. Too bad he couldn't control it.
Here's Your Chance To Own Kimi Raikkonen's 2002 McLaren Formula 1 Car Just Before He Retires
Is this a coincidence or perfect timing? Whatever the case may be, Kimi Raikkonen's 2002 McLaren MP4-17D is set to cross the auction block shortly after the Finn announced his retirement from Formula 1 at the end of this season.
Designed by some of F1's greats such as Adrian Newey, Mike Coughlan, Neil Oatley, and Peter Prodromou, the MP4-17D was powered by a 3.0-liter Mercedes-Benz V10 that churned out 845 hp at an ear-splitting 18,500 RPM. It was also the sixth of McLaren's race cars to feature the distinctive, and now classic, West McLaren Mercedes livery.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VN0xxdv7/2002-Mc-Laren-MP4-17-D-1.jpg)
This car, chassis number MP4-17A-06, raced seven times in the 2002 season and another five times in 2003. It debuted at the European Grand Prix that ran during June 21-23 at the Nurburgring in Germany. Raikkonen qualified sixth for the race and finished in third just behind the Ferrari duo of Rubens Barrichello and Michael Schumacher.
Its most successful outing of the year came at its third race in France at the Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours. There, Raikkonen managed to finish second with teammate David Coulthard close behind in third.
Unfortunately, McLaren proved to be thoroughly outdone by Ferrari for the 2002 season as the Italian team won 15 of the season's 17 races. McLaren finished third in the constructor's championship behind Ferrari and Williams-BMW.
The car was upgraded for the 2003 season, though, where it performed much better. Competing in five races, it took victory at the Australian Grand Prix at the hands of David Coulthard.
This car's tie to Raikkonen and its proximity to the era of Michael Schumacher also make it a hot item. Estimates suggest that it will go for between 2 and 2.5 million Swiss Francs ($2,179,836-$2,724,795 USD).
The car will go under the hammer at the RM Sotheby's St. Moritz auction on September 17.
Link: https://www.carscoops.com/2021/09/heres-your-chance-to-own-kimi-raikkonens-2002-mclaren-formula-1-car-just-before-he-retires/
Just feel gutted for Lando :cry:
Should be an interesting first few seconds at today's US Grand Prix (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/enthusiasts/hamilton-i-hope-verstappen-and-i-make-it-cleanly-through-turn-1/ar-AAPTEwp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)
Hamilton: I hope Verstappen and I make it cleanly through Turn 1
Hoping for a first turn crash and a Lando victory
One of the legends of F1 - Frank Williams, founder of Formula One team, dies at 79 (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/other/frank-williams-founder-of-formula-one-team-dies-at-79/ar-AAReab8?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)
Down to the wire...Hamilton wins wild Saudi GP (https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-grand-prix-race-results-saudi/6854041/)
Abu Dhabi should be a blast.
I fear that the championship will come down either to an action or in-action of the stewarts
Just hope that it doesn't come down to a crash giving Verstappen the championship on more wins. He's tried it a couple of times.
This race was a direct disaster caused by the FIA turning a blind eye to Max in Brazil. It basically gave him a blank check to do whatever he wants on the track - and he cashed that in today.
Essentially the FIA is stating that Max brake tested Lewis if you look at their wording "erratic" "sudden" "2.4G deceleration". That Max only got a 10s penalty is extremely lenient, and likely a result of the Championship being equal on points, and the FIA not wanting it decided in the Stewards room.
As for the Saudi track. I love the layout, basically a combination of Monaco, and Monza, however the run off areas - or lack thereof - needs some reconsideration. I am actually surprised that this track passed a safety check. This is ignoring the fact that Saudi Arabia should never have gotten a GP.
Sad to see the championship determined by a call from the stewards
I'll admit I turned off my TV as the cars crossed the line, which is something I have never done before. That being said at various stages of the race both Red Bull, and Mercedes were fuming at race control, so all in all they likely were fair and balanced then. Regarding Mercedes's legal challenge, in the last lap Toto Wolff was ranting "not this way Masi, not this way!" To the same tune, not this way Toto, not this way.
Btw. this proves why Bottas has to go. Were he P2 then he could have likely played the wing man role, and held up Max for a crucial few corners.
If Masi wanted a orchestrate a shootout - well first that is Nascar level Hollywood crap instead of racing, and second just throw the red flag and put everyone on the same terms and give the race a couple laps to go at it.
If your going to leave cars unlap themselves that's fine, but doing so after you said no, and then only a select few with a couple corners left because the rest didn't have time - yikes... Please don't even try to pretend that F1 is the highest form of motorsports if that charade is going to happen
The MMA version of F1.
Super lame. F1 sucks.
Sir Lewis...Hamilton receives knighthood days after losing F1 title
(https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/other/hamilton-receives-knighthood-days-after-losing-f1-title/ar-AARQpzg?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)
Quote from: cawimmer430 on September 13, 2021, 09:49:31 AM
Here's Your Chance To Own Kimi Raikkonen's 2002 McLaren Formula 1 Car Just Before He Retires
Is this a coincidence or perfect timing? Whatever the case may be, Kimi Raikkonen's 2002 McLaren MP4-17D is set to cross the auction block shortly after the Finn announced his retirement from Formula 1 at the end of this season.
Designed by some of F1's greats such as Adrian Newey, Mike Coughlan, Neil Oatley, and Peter Prodromou, the MP4-17D was powered by a 3.0-liter Mercedes-Benz V10 that churned out 845 hp at an ear-splitting 18,500 RPM. It was also the sixth of McLaren's race cars to feature the distinctive, and now classic, West McLaren Mercedes livery.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VN0xxdv7/2002-Mc-Laren-MP4-17-D-1.jpg)
This car, chassis number MP4-17A-06, raced seven times in the 2002 season and another five times in 2003. It debuted at the European Grand Prix that ran during June 21-23 at the Nurburgring in Germany. Raikkonen qualified sixth for the race and finished in third just behind the Ferrari duo of Rubens Barrichello and Michael Schumacher.
Its most successful outing of the year came at its third race in France at the Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours. There, Raikkonen managed to finish second with teammate David Coulthard close behind in third.
Unfortunately, McLaren proved to be thoroughly outdone by Ferrari for the 2002 season as the Italian team won 15 of the season's 17 races. McLaren finished third in the constructor's championship behind Ferrari and Williams-BMW.
The car was upgraded for the 2003 season, though, where it performed much better. Competing in five races, it took victory at the Australian Grand Prix at the hands of David Coulthard.
This car's tie to Raikkonen and its proximity to the era of Michael Schumacher also make it a hot item. Estimates suggest that it will go for between 2 and 2.5 million Swiss Francs ($2,179,836-$2,724,795 USD).
The car will go under the hammer at the RM Sotheby's St. Moritz auction on September 17.
Link: https://www.carscoops.com/2021/09/heres-your-chance-to-own-kimi-raikkonens-2002-mclaren-formula-1-car-just-before-he-retires/
I'd love to own an F1 car and prep it for street use.
Quote from: Submariner on December 15, 2021, 01:30:32 PM
I'd love to own an F1 car and prep it for street use.
:lol: How do you do that? The whole car is designed for not street use.
Quote from: MrH on December 15, 2021, 02:38:06 PM
:lol: How do you do that? The whole car is designed for not street use.
If I have the money to buy an F1 car I have the money to make that another persons problem. :lol:
Looks like hubcaps are back in style
Interesting start to 2022. Great driving by LeClerc to hold off Max with 10 laps to go
Bahrain was excellent. Loved to see Red Bull reaping some of that karma. Which is a shame, because Red Bull has been my team for a very long time, I just hate Verstappen so much.
Nice to see Ferrari doing well again, but I think that Mercedes will soon iron out whatever problems they're having. It'll eventually be a Louis-Max show again, likely, with Ferrari nipping at their heels. Verstappen belongs in NASCAR.
Regarding the missile strike a few km from the Jeddah track:
"BBC Sport has learned that a significant number of drivers had concerns about the safety of the event following the attack. But eventually they were convinced to go ahead and race after being given further information by bosses. Part of this information involved the possible consequences of not racing, such as how easily teams and drivers would be able to leave the country if the race did not happen."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/60880598
Yikes.
Quote from: Galaxy on March 26, 2022, 05:23:46 AM
Regarding the missile strike a few km from the Jeddah track:
"BBC Sport has learned that a significant number of drivers had concerns about the safety of the event following the attack. But eventually they were convinced to go ahead and race after being given further information by bosses. Part of this information involved the possible consequences of not racing, such as how easily teams and drivers would be able to leave the country if the race did not happen."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/60880598
Yikes.
Fuck.
And they stopped racing in Detroit because there were some bumps on the track...
Super messed up if Saudi forced them to stay in the country.
Cool to see Checo get the pole
Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 26, 2022, 03:37:04 PM
Cool to see Checo get the pole
What is happening with Hamilton's car, though?
Quote from: Raza on March 27, 2022, 06:13:56 AM
What is happening with Hamilton's car, though?
"Porpoising?
Mercedes will likely fix it soon enough but, although Hamilton is my favourite driver, it's always fun to see him have to struggle a bit. He is 15th on the grid for today's race and he always drives his best when he has to catch up.
Quote from: FoMoJo on March 27, 2022, 06:51:19 AM
"Porpoising?
Mercedes will likely fix it soon enough but, although Hamilton is my favourite driver, it's always fun to see him have to struggle a bit. He is 15th on the grid for today's race and he always drives his best when he has to catch up.
Not with the car bouncing around like that. Plus, the 8 slowest cars on the grid in terms of top speed are all Mercedes powered cars. So the Mercedes engine went from best engine on the grid to the worst one.
The one silver lining one the horizon seems to be that they do believe that the cars has fundamentally a lot of raw speed, which they can unlock if they get the porpoising under control. But it seems a new large update will still be a few races away.
Quote from: Galaxy on March 27, 2022, 10:16:20 AM
Not with the car bouncing around like that. Plus, the 8 slowest cars on the grid in terms of top speed are all Mercedes powered cars. So the Mercedes engine went from best engine on the grid to the worst one.
The one silver lining one the horizon seems to be that they do believe that the cars has fundamentally a lot of raw speed, which they can unlock if they get the porpoising under control. But it seems a new large update will still be a few races away.
Still it should be fun to see how well Lewis can compensate for having a mediocre car.
One thing we can say, the new regulations are working. The cars were able to follow each other in even fast corners.
Certainly a fun race to watch this weekend, even if Verstappen won. I was so hoping for another DNF from him.
Good race but tracks with walls right on the side of the track are so dumb. I don't think they should go back
Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 28, 2022, 11:09:24 AM
Good race but tracks with walls right on the side of the track are so dumb. I don't think they should go back
There are definitely a lot of reasons not to do business with Saudi Arabia, this included.
Season is OK so far. I was hoping for more than 2 teams though to have a chance.
It's hard to believe (outside of oil money) that they race at Jeddah. All those blind turns plus no runoff area is just looking for a fatal accident.
Quote from: r0tor on March 29, 2022, 04:58:06 PM
Season is OK so far. I was hoping for more than 2 teams though to have a chance.
It's hard to believe (outside of oil money) that they race at Jeddah. All those blind turns plus no runoff area is just looking for a fatal accident.
Yeah, it looks like an excessively dangerous track. I think I heard about 80% of it is WOT, too, so it's a balls to the wall kind of track. Schumacher's crash in qualifying was no joke.
So much positivity.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq4AU1ou85w
I think McLaren's PR department will have a chat with him.
I like this Saturday 11pm (MST) start time
Not a bad race. Some good stuff towards mid field. Interesting to see if McLaren and Mercedes can get back into contention.
The Miami GP is adding "water" to their "yacht harbour"
(https://cdn.givemesport.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/pjimage-2022-05-01T142624.415-960x620-c-default.jpg)
But why? Is not like literally 50% of the Miami waterfront like a yacht harbour :huh:
Quote from: Galaxy on May 02, 2022, 11:46:49 PM
The Miami GP is adding "water" to their "yacht harbour"
But why? Is not like literally 50% of the Miami waterfront like a yacht harbour :huh:
To get the yachts near the track.
The promoters originally wanted the track to run nearer the waterfront, but NIMBYs rejected it, so now the billionaires have to suffer from fake water syndrome.
Why do F1 races in the USA always need to resort to some level of elementary school tackiness
Quote from: r0tor on May 03, 2022, 05:59:49 AM
Why do F1 races in the USA always need to resort to some level of elementary school tackiness
Miami and Vegas are cities for fakes so this fits right in
I can only imagine what ridiculousness is planned for vegas
I like George
https://streamja.com/bwzlv
He's looking pretty solid. Mercedes seems to have largely fixed their porpoising problems and can now concentrate on making the car faster. It will be an interesting season with 3 highly competitive teams.
RUS was way slower throughout the race then Ham though... If it wasn't for the first lap tango I think Ham might have won. Would be great to see 3 teams with a chance to win
KIMI will race the glen this year in the Nascar cuppy cars
Quote from: r0tor on May 23, 2022, 05:33:21 AM
RUS was way slower throughout the race then Ham though... If it wasn't for the first lap tango I think Ham might have won. Would be great to see 3 teams with a chance to win
Hamilton is exceptional, but he seems to being having a lot of bad luck, or simply his head hasn't been in it yet, this year. Hopefully, with a competitive car he can give Verstappen (and Leclerc) a run for their money.
Quote from: FoMoJo on May 26, 2022, 05:45:16 PM
Hamilton is exceptional, but he seems to being having a lot of bad luck, or simply his head hasn't been in it yet, this year. Hopefully, with a competitive car he can give Verstappen (and Leclerc) a run for their money.
I think part of it is that the car's driving style is different than he's used to. And also just not a good car until last race's upgrades.
I have to wonder if the porpoising was holding Lewis back physically as well. Drivers are getting beat up in the cars from all the bouncing - a couple drivers including Russell have publicly complained they could be permanently damaging their bodies.
At Lewis's age, with all the championships, and up until last race an uncompetitive car - I could understand him trying to save his body. Same goes for Seb for that matter.
Quote from: r0tor on May 27, 2022, 10:24:43 AM
I have to wonder if the porpoising was holding Lewis back physically as well. Drivers are getting beat up in the cars from all the bouncing - a couple drivers including Russell have publicly complained they could be permanently damaging their bodies.
At Lewis's age, with all the championships, and up until last race an uncompetitive car - I could understand him trying to save his body. Same goes for Seb for that matter.
Wait, what? Driving a race car is hard on the body?? No way.
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 28, 2022, 12:06:48 AM
Wait, what? Driving a race car is hard on the body?? No way.
The porpoising is really messing the drivers up though way beyond how physical the cars use to be. Several are complaining of bad back issues and actually worried about brain damage from violently bouncing down the straights.
Canadian Grand Prix, things may be looking up for team Mercedes.
Good race. Stroll in the points! Leclerc caught up but probably not as much as he probably hoped.
Sucks for Mick (and KMag)
Mercedes doing better but still 3rd best team and off the pace of Ferrari, and no one can catch Red Bull unless they blow up
Too bad about young Schumacher. He's had a series of crashes and failures and, it seems, his job may be on the line unless things improve quickly.
Red Bull certainly seems to have the best package at the moment. Most other teams are still fighting with porpoising to one degree or another while Red Bull is mostly unaffected. However, with Adrian Newey as their Chief Technical Officer, it's not surprising. He's always been an aero wizard.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 19, 2022, 04:18:06 PM
Good race. Stroll in the points! Leclerc caught up but probably not as much as he probably hoped.
Sucks for Mick (and KMag)
Mercedes doing better but still 3rd best team and off the pace of Ferrari, and no one can catch Red Bull unless they blow up
If Lec passed Ocon earlier, he'd have had a go at Russell, I think.
I was really hoping Alonso would end up on the podium, too, but I think they went all-in on a wet setup for quali
Quote from: Galaxy on December 03, 2020, 06:28:48 PM
So now with Louis Hamilton out of Commission with COVID-19, it has created the interesting scenario that George Russel is being transplanted from the worst car of the grid to the best car of the grid. I do expect Bottas to prevail, he better for his sake.
Quote from: Galaxy on December 06, 2020, 12:18:07 PM
Well on paper Russell finished behind Bottas, however Mercedes putting Bottas's tires on Russell's car, and a tire puncture led to this. Russell absolutely destroyed Bottas. Ironically it was Russell's Williams that caused the safety car that led to the Mercedes tire debacle.
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 03, 2020, 07:14:30 PM
Could be his big break, Russell that is.
Quote from: r0tor on December 06, 2020, 12:28:57 PM
What a crazy circus that race was
https://youtu.be/x7ddnyNMl5s
Fun to look back at that race now. Checo with another win at Monaco this year (and last year at Azerbaijan). Russell actually with Mercedes now and performing similarly well as he did in that race.
edit: video won't embed but you can click the link to watch the highlights
Great race at Silverstone, as usual. Lewis is finally waking up.
F1 needs more tracks like this and less street circuits
The Austrian track may be interesting. At least there is some elevation changes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ga7QSz97Ss
Quote from: r0tor on July 03, 2022, 08:31:55 PM
F1 needs more tracks like this and less street circuits
Yup. Having a couple street circuits is fun, but these cars are meant to be on real tracks
I bet this guy needed a changing...
https://youtu.be/fhMPIHUHZRE
I saw that the FIA will be investigating the design of the tire wall and fencing. Fence did a good job of catching the car, but the gap that the car fell into is problematic. Zhou would have been in trouble if the car caught fire while in there. Way too difficult to extract the driver quickly.
Halo to the rescue... Can't believe it, but Zhou's roll hoop actually was ripped out of the chassis!
https://youtu.be/BpNO1wgUfmY
Luckily he's not tall. Some of the taller driver's heads poke above the halo.
what an awesome tech analysis, thanks for p0sting
What a mess of a weekend.
Shitty fan behavior, slow to help Sainz when he's on fire, stewards calling track limits penalities every 10 seconds, wrongly calling a penalty on Zhou, calling all 3 podiums finishers in for parc ferme rule that must have been their fault if all 3 drivers didn't follow the rule, etc etc.
I like the track but clearly if all 20 drivers are "exceeding track limits" but not crashing, it's not a problem.
The racing itself was excellent, though. Lots of great battles, 3-5 cars battling for position at times. And Mick with points again!
Someone really needs to take a serious look at what they installed this year as the head of the FIA. It's becoming the epitome of a 2nd world authoritarian organization
Some good highlights...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_8mOQeSa2U
https://theathletic.com/3423105/2022/07/14/f1-formula-one-watch-party/
I wish there was a place like this locally
That sucks for leclerc
Quote from: Rich on July 24, 2022, 07:43:50 AM
That sucks for leclerc
Ferrari engines, fast but fragile.
LEC is just a headcase unable to keep himself in check on the track. Team orders protecting him from SAI is costing Ferrari and SAI a shot at the championship
Apparently, Michael watches the races with Jean Todt. Must be quite a disappointment for both of them seeing Ferrari in such a state.
Leclerc is normally faster though and this crash might have been due to the throttle sticking. (And his tires were at their end)
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 24, 2022, 11:50:10 AM
Leclerc is normally faster though and this crash might have been due to the throttle sticking. (And his tires were at their end)
Leclerc has a history of crashing. He even crashed Niki Lauda's classic Ferrari in Monaco this year.
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 24, 2022, 12:07:57 PM
Leclerc has a history of crashing. He even crashed Niki Lauda's classic Ferrari in Monaco this year.
True, but that one wasn't his fault either. Brake pad fell apart
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 24, 2022, 01:20:26 PM
True, but that one wasn't his fault either. Brake pad fell apart
Yes, that is true. However, with his latest crash he admitted it was driver error.
It may be a bit unfair to Leclerc in that he does have a fast car, perhaps the fastest, and he may be pushing himself a bit over his limit. It's also interesting that Verstappen seems to have matured a bit this season. He is not only a fast driver now, but a smart driver. Still, I'd like to see Mercedes give Lewis a competitive car so that he can give Verstappen a run for his money. Seems like the gap between Mercedes and Red Bull is slowly closing.
I guess the sticking throttle was potentially keeping him from reversing, not the cause of the crash. Being stuck in the tire wall probably kept him from reversing too :lol:
It's been an oddly intriguing season so far, Ferrari the fastest team, but somewhat fragile, both car and drivers, Red Bull consistently strong with Verstappen looking more like a champion, Mercedes slowly closing the gap in speed and consistency.
Sebastian "OMG we're all gonna burn to death and I want 120 km/h speed limits on the Autobahn and I vote Green Party but I live in Switzerland for tax reasons!" Vettel is retiring from Formula 1.
Good. What an annoying pussy this guy has become. He's in the German media 24/7 and whines about climate change and how we need a pathetic, sleep-inducing 120 km/h speed limit on the Autobahn bla bla bla.
I liked post Ferrari Seb
I like Seb
He's got lots of talent but not exactly a cool head.
I remember when Sebastian Vettel was a guest on Top Gear many years ago and he was interviewed by Jeremy Clarkson. At the time I thought, "Gee, this guy is pretty down-to-earth and cool." He didn't come across as arrogant despite being an upcoming new talent with a lot of potential.
How the mighty have fallen. Now it's clear to me that he's just some virtue signaling woke celebrity. You know he also said something along the lines that "we need more LGBTQ+ diversity in Formula 1" - and I find such statements just plain stupid and annoying.
Why?
Well first of all because this topic is in our news 24/7/365. Currently there's the European Women's Football Championship in the UK (England vs Germany in the final on July 31st by the way, the German team has such sexy ladies (Giulia Gwinn and Merle Frohms)! :wub:) and the pre-match topics tend to revolve around "this team does not have enough PoC players and that's a problem bla bla bla". I'm just shaking my head at this.
And secondly, this topic is annoying because you can't force diversity. Diversity should happen on its own and it will over time.
I guess Vettel is following German politics too closely. In the German political system diversity is being forced through stupid and ridiculous quotas. We need 50% women here, we need 20% POC's here, we need 35% LGBTQ+ here etc. etc. etc. Oh no, too much "toxic white masculinity here" oh no! The result? We have some of the most incompetent and racist/sexist "politicians" being put in charge of important functions for which they are not qualified and lack the knowledge. If a quota system is introduced in F1, that means potentially talentless drivers and even more dull races. Let the future F1 drivers qualify for this elite Motorsport through talent and sheer hard work. Period. And I could care less which racial background they have or what their sexual orientation is.
This is why Vettel to me has become such a joke. He's pandering to the woke crowd. Next thing you know he'll also claim that he's gender fluid trans binary or something and menstruates once a month! :lol:
I still think this guy is pretty down-to-earth and cool
(https://www.racedepartment.com/attachments/sv4-png.580557/)
Kind of funny as well... For a German
https://youtu.be/cBYS17viQpM
Quote from: r0tor on July 29, 2022, 10:37:54 AM
Kind of funny as well... For a German
https://youtu.be/cBYS17viQpM
Can't watch the video here... "Video Unavailable"
You might be able to click "Watch on Youtube" at the bottom. That's what I see
Nice to see young George scoop the pole in Hungary, seems to have confused the heck out of Alonso.
Too early to speculate, but Russel appears more and more to be the real thing, that is, the makings of a true champion. Over the decades, f1 has had its greats, those who seem to have that extra ability to win, even when their cars are not quite the best. Going back, we have the Fangio era, the Clark era, the Senna era, the Schumacher era, now the Hamilton era. The next era could well be the Russel era...rather than the Verstappen era. Fast and smart.
Class act really
https://youtu.be/r3BgDLfRTjk
What is even happening
So Alonso signed a contract with Aston Martin for 2023, the first clue Alpine had was the AM press release, Alpine then announce that their current reserve driver Oscar Piastri will be driving for them in 2023. Piastri then posts on Twitter that he will not be driving for Alpine in 2023.
Danni Ricciardo can now put 2 and 2 together and deduce that he will not be driving for McLaren next season.
Audi in 2026
Quote from: Galaxy on August 02, 2022, 04:34:34 PM
Danni Ricciardo can now put 2 and 2 together and deduce that he will not be driving for McLaren next season.
Confirmed now.
Mercedes needs to scrap the W13 as a failed experiment, then steal Adrian Newey from Red Bull to build them a competitive car.
I am starting to despise Zak Brown. Replacing Ricciardo for next season is probably the right decision, but rather then that admit that McLaren HR made a mistake by not putting a performance clause into Ricciardo's contract, he is now whining to the media about how unfair it is that they have to pay Ricciardo his full salary for 2023, bitching about how Danny was not the driver they thought he would be, they brought him on as a multi GP winner to be a team leader, and much he sucks compared to the rocky. I mean jesus, Danny has to drive for them for the rest of the season.
Apparently McLaren did not realize that Ricciardo has a water tight contract until after they signed Piastri. After Ricciardo stated that he has a contract for Macca for 2023 their legal team pulled out the contract and i guess they had an Oh shit moment. Apparently besides his base pay, they have to pay him all potential price money, $24 Million in total. So by being fired he is actually making more money, since he was winning nothing. LOL.
Hamilton out on the first lap. At least he won't have to have his back reassembled from porpoising for a couple of hours.
Quote from: Galaxy on August 27, 2022, 11:17:44 PM
I am starting to despise Zak Brown. Replacing Ricciardo for next season is probably the right decision, but rather then that admit that McLaren HR made a mistake by not putting a performance clause into Ricciardo's contract, he is now whining to the media about how unfair it is that they have to pay Ricciardo his full salary for 2023, bitching about how Danny was not the driver they thought he would be, they brought him on as a multi GP winner to be a team leader, and much he sucks compared to the rocky. I mean jesus, Danny has to drive for them for the rest of the season.
Apparently McLaren did not realize that Ricciardo has a water tight contract until after they signed Piastri. After Ricciardo stated that he has a contract for Macca for 2023 their legal team pulled out the contract and i guess they had an Oh shit moment. Apparently besides his base pay, they have to pay him all potential price money, $24 Million in total. So by being fired he is actually making more money, since he was winning nothing. LOL.
And McLaren's car performance is just as bad as Ricciardo's. Don't see how Piastri is going to do much better considering Norris hasn't had a great season in the car either.
Ferrari and Leclerc screwing up again at the end. Made a risk to pit and get the fastest lap, ended up down a position (due to speeding in pit lane), and no fastest lap point.
Might be closer race this weekend. The top 4 qualifiers are less than a third of a second apart...F1 2022 Dutch Grand Prix - Qualifying results (https://racingnews365.com/f1-2022-dutch-grand-prix-qualifying-results)
Merc with their best look of the year so far. Didn't expect that
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 04, 2022, 11:33:38 AM
Merc with their best look of the year so far. Didn't expect that
Each track is a new adventure for them.
I am baffled by all of the people who think that the FIA should have red flagged the race just to add some excitement. Yes, a race hat ends under the safety car is disappointing, but the day they use red flags to artificially add excitement is the day I stop watching. There was absolutely ZERO reason to red flag the race.
Latifi should just resign after Nyck de Vries schooled him. Latifi has been driving for Williams since 2020, de Vries had HALF a training season in a car he had never driven before, one hour prior to qualifying and absolutely destroyed Latifi. In the race he then proceeds to get more points then Latifi has all season. Yes, I am aware that de Vries profited from all the penalties but that goes for Latifi as well.
I am aware that Williams is keeping him since he brings in money, however for him it has to be humiliating, knowing that everyone in the team from the mechanics to the leadership probably thinks you are incompetent.
It would be interesting to see how Nyck de Vries would do against Albon. I guess Mercedes is keeping de Vries on payroll since they do not know if/when Hamilton will retire. For de Vries himself the clock is ticking. He is now 27.
Quote from: Galaxy on September 12, 2022, 01:44:57 AM
I am baffled by all of the people who think that the FIA should have red flagged the race just to add some excitement. Yes, a race hat ends under the safety car is disappointing, but the day they use red flags to artificially add excitement is the day I stop watching. There was absolutely ZERO reason to red flag the race.
Latifi should just resign after Nyck de Vries schooled him. Latifi has been driving for Williams since 2020, de Vries had HALF a training season in a car he had never driven before, one hour prior to qualifying and absolutely destroyed Latifi. In the race he then proceeds to get more points then Latifi has all season. Yes, I am aware that de Vries profited from all the penalties but that goes for Latifi as well.
I am aware that Williams is keeping him since he brings in money, however for him it has to be humiliating, knowing that everyone in the team from the mechanics to the leadership probably thinks you are incompetent.
It would be interesting to see how Nyck de Vries would do against Albon. I guess Mercedes is keeping de Vries on payroll since they do not know if/when Hamilton will retire. For de Vries himself the clock is ticking. He is now 27.
I think the better solution is for safety car laps to not be counted at any point in the race.
That could be a solution except maybe for fuel.
Quote from: FoMoJo on September 12, 2022, 09:29:32 AM
That could be a solution except maybe for fuel.
Yeah that was my initial solution until someone pointed out the fuel loads. I'm curious how much fuel is used for safety car laps vs. regular laps
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 12, 2022, 02:01:27 PM
Yeah that was my initial solution until someone pointed out the fuel loads. I'm curious how much fuel is used for safety car laps vs. regular laps
Maybe they could have a separate tank for safety car laps if they're not counted as race laps, though that would involve a bunch more regulations, etc.
From what I can tell off the TV feed, it took 4 laps for Max to actually get behind the safety car. That is an inexcusable clusterfuck that occurs almost everytime there is a safety car in F1 and causes this drama. 10% of the race was lost from a simple clearing of a car.
The longer it takes you group the field the longer it takes to get equipment on the track to clear the issue. They need to figure out how nascar can scamper out a safety car and be almost immediately be picking up the field.
Isn't there a time limit for the race? Do the cars not have enough fuel to get them to the time limit?
I'd guess probably not since the time limit would be for red flags when cars aren't burning gas.
Red Bull breached the budget cap for 2021. :popcorn:
Not clear how, or by how much. Rumor says that they budgeted ALL of the catering, including what employees eat, as marketing costs, which are not under a budget cap.
It is pretty shitty in 2021 Mercedes stopped development to meet the cap and then lost the drivers championship to a team that blew the budget.
The budget cap is super lame and doesn't belong in F1
The problem with era before the cost cap was that the budget was only affordable if you win WDC/WDC. Toyota spent $ 1 Billion per year with nothing to show for it. Same reason, BMW, Honda and others are no longer in F1.
What is curious is that for the last three years they have unique version of the F1 theme song for the Mexico GP(Mariachi ) to my knowledge they do not do this for any other race, so not sure why Mexico gets treated differently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76WymUKBa54
I like it.
Apparently a guy next to me at work is a huge F1 fan. He was looking up tickets for Vegas F1 race- $500 for the "cheap seats" but it includes all food and non-alcohol drinks. Not too terrible.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 02, 2022, 07:12:12 PM
Apparently a guy next to me at work is a huge F1 fan. He was looking up tickets for Vegas F1 race- $500 for the "cheap seats" but it includes all food and non-alcohol drinks. Not too terrible.
$500 is not for seats, it is for standing. Grandstands start at $2000. And basic hotel rooms in Vegas for the GP weekend seem to be $2000 per night for the GP weekend. WTF.
Adrian Newey explains ground effect aerodynamics...Adrian Newey 'surprised' Red Bull's rivals were caught out by porpoising cars (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/news/adrian-newey-surprised-red-bull-s-rivals-were-caught-out-by-porpoising-cars/ar-AA13UEWd?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=60dae7a10cd84fcb8fd6c2ee0427d561)
Apparently Cadillac might make an F1 entry with Andretti
Ford has been rumored as well.
The future could be very interesting.
Quote from: Galaxy on November 04, 2022, 04:24:01 AM
$500 is not for seats, it is for standing. Grandstands start at $2000. And basic hotel rooms in Vegas for the GP weekend seem to be $2000 per night for the GP weekend. WTF.
$1000/night at MGM Grand with seats near the starting line and pits. Ends up around $9000 with 3 nights and $2500 tickets and stuff. (2 people max)
Not worth it, at all.
So many ridiculous excuses from the teams on why Andretti shouldn't be allowed in.
They want American money with Liberty Media's new focus, but apparently that's it.
I saw that the only team not sour on the Andretti entry is Alpine, because Renault will supposedly be providing the engines for the Andretti team.
LOL what a sham from GM/Cadillac if true
https://the-race.com/formula-1/andretti-cadillac-plan-still-faces-substantial-f1-opposition/
The grid isn't full and I don't think new teams should be blocked unless there are multiple bids for the open spots.
Quote from: Rich on January 09, 2023, 11:38:36 AM
I saw that the only team not sour on the Andretti entry is Alpine, because Renault will supposedly be providing the engines for the Andretti team.
LOL what a sham from GM/Cadillac if true
https://the-race.com/formula-1/andretti-cadillac-plan-still-faces-substantial-f1-opposition/
I believe engines are locked down now for a.bunch of years - so probably a new manufacturer is not even possible
Quote from: Rich on January 09, 2023, 11:38:36 AM
I saw that the only team not sour on the Andretti entry is Alpine, because Renault will supposedly be providing the engines for the Andretti team.
LOL what a sham from GM/Cadillac if true
https://the-race.com/formula-1/andretti-cadillac-plan-still-faces-substantial-f1-opposition/
Who would supply the car?
Though the interest and involvement of General Motors has been well received behind the scenes, most existing teams are wary of it just being a badging exercise passed off as a full General Motors works team. Essentially, there is a question mark over just how involved General Motors would be.
Love the hypocrisy with a series that current fields an "Alfa Romeo" team, an "Aston Martin" team, Red Bull for a few years was powered by Aston Martin, Infiniti and also Tag Heur at one point (lol)
Quote from: r0tor on January 09, 2023, 12:01:04 PM
I believe engines are locked down now for a.bunch of years - so probably a new manufacturer is not even possible
ah. It's more rational then.
Quote from: r0tor on January 09, 2023, 03:16:17 PM
Love the hypocrisy with a series that current fields an "Alfa Romeo" team, an "Aston Martin" team, Red Bull for a few years was powered by Aston Martin, Infiniti and also Tag Heur at one point (lol)
The "manufacturers" really have little to do with it other than providing the money. it's all very specialized. There will be no "GM" engineers involved. If they "GM" do become involved in building the car, will have to steal staff from other F1 teams.
Red Bull joining forces with.........
FORD!!!!????!!!
Quote from: r0tor on February 03, 2023, 11:22:08 AM
Red Bull joining forces with.........
FORD!!!!????!!!
Red Bull was formerly the Jaguar team when Jaguar was owned by Ford so a good fit. As well, Ford has a long history in F1 as participants in developing the Cosworth DFV engine which ruled F1 for a number of years; first installed in a Lotus 49 driven by Jim Clark.
Quote from: r0tor on February 03, 2023, 11:22:08 AM
Red Bull joining forces with.........
FORD!!!!????!!!
The same folks complaining about a Cadillac badge job
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 03, 2023, 12:09:41 PM
The same folks complaining about a Cadillac badge job
In all likelihood, it probably means that Ford will pay the cost of engine development as per the '26 rules change...
Why Ford can offer Red Bull what Porsche could not in F1 (https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/why-ford-can-offer-red-bull-what-porsche-could-not-in-f1/10427645/)...much as they did for the DFV Cosworth engine in the '60s.
Not sure what GM is offering, though it seems they are planning on a new team.
Some 2026 F1 engine news...FIA reveals six F1 engine suppliers signed up for 2026 (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/news/fia-reveals-six-f1-engine-suppliers-signed-up-for-2026/ar-AA174Qzi?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=dbb611511c2a42f1a8204d807e882cc4)
F1 is set to debut its next generation of power units in 2026, placing a heavy emphasis on the use of sustainable fuels and greater electric power in a bid for improved sustainability whilst not impacting the on-track spectacle.
Talks with both existing and potential new manufacturers have been ongoing for some time regarding the regulations, but the FIA revealed on Friday that six parties have completed their registration.
This includes Audi, who announced back in September that it would be entering F1 for the first time in 2026 as an engine supplier to Sauber, and Red Bull Ford, whose partnership was also revealed on Friday.
Read Also:Why Ford can offer Red Bull what Porsche could not in F1
Although Honda's existing relationship with Red Bull will come to an end in 2026, the Japanese manufacturer has also signed up for the cycle that runs from 2026 to 2030 – despite not having an affiliation with a team in place.
It means that with the existing power unit suppliers, the registered companies are:
.....
Who is Honda going to provide engines for?
The question of the year. Will Mercedes still porpoise when they test at Bahrain this week?
Checking out the competition...
(https://i.postimg.cc/qMHQm4Zn/AA17Pp5g.jpg)
Probably another snoozer of a year
Times seem remarkably close in free practice 2...
F1 results: Fernando Alonso fastest in Bahrain GP practice (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/other/f1-results-fernando-alonso-fastest-in-bahrain-gp-practice/ar-AA18bHca?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=4c84e657caa14fb782c8b67e7efa361d&ei=45)
I'm not going to believe that piece until tomorrow after qualifying
Other than Aston Martin maybe getting a lot better (we'll see), it seems like the winter break was not very successful for the other teams. McLaren isn't ready for the season, Mercedes improvements yet to be seen, etc. We'll see if some teams surprise us, but I'm not holding my breath.
https://youtu.be/KjrNcuc89Pc
All the cards are not out yet, but it could be interesting...F1 Bahrain GP: Alonso beats both Red Bulls again to top final practice (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/other/f1-bahrain-gp-alonso-beats-both-red-bulls-again-to-top-final-practice/ar-AA18dex9?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=eec1100c498945dda60b4a6b65339243&ei=46)
1 Fernando Alonso Aston Martin Mercedes 13 1'32.340
2 Max Verstappen Red Bull Red Bull 13 1'32.345 0.005
3 Sergio Perez Red Bull Red Bull 12 1'32.446 0.106
4 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes Mercedes 17 1'32.555 0.215
5 Charles Leclerc Ferrari Ferrari 21 1'32.624 0.284
6 George Russell Mercedes Mercedes 17 1'32.731 0.391
7 Lance Stroll Aston Martin Mercedes 16 1'32.919 0.579
8 Carlos Sainz Ferrari Ferrari 21 1'32.945 0.605
No real surprises in qualifying. Nice to see Alonso somewhat competitive. As for Red Bull, Adrian Newey is obviously still at the top of his game.
Pretty much looks like the same old same old. I'm not even convinced that Red Bull even emptied all of their sand bags yet.
Looks like Mercedes have finally given up on their "zero pod" concept...Wolff: Mercedes must change car concept to return to top in F1 (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/wolff-mercedes-must-change-car-concept-to-return-to-top-in-f1/ar-AA18dOgk?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7b75f6aaf95b4a8fb744c833d2ed9c31&ei=67)
All max.needs to do is keep it on the road and finish races to win probably every race...
Mercedes better start looking closely at what Aston Martin have done with their car. It has pretty much the same running gear as Mercedes, engine, transmission, suspension, but it goes a lot smoother on the track, and faster. Good to see Alonso doing well.
Williams in the points!
Sargeant with the best result of the noobies too
Lots of action in Melbourne...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FExS3lFEwqc
That was such a mess. I might as well watch NASCAR
The most overrated, or unluckiest driver, has to be Leclerc.
I think there is a rather high percentage of first lap calamity for LEC when he gets out qualified by a teammate
That last red flag though... Yeesh, rewind a couple years and there is probably a different world champion. Set a precedent and live with it.
This kinda sucks...Motor racing-Emilia Romagna F1 Grand Prix called off due to weather (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/other/motor-racing-emilia-romagna-f1-grand-prix-called-off-due-to-weather/ar-AA1bjkNS?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=700af2d7d2c74f5a8eac9adf715590de&ei=59)
Things just might get interesting for the race, finally...Hungary (https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.hamilton-beats-verstappen-and-norris-to-hungarian-gp-pole-in-qualifying.7lm5joHPTDuciNjtgsza5f.html)
At least 4 competitive cars, maybe 5.
Anyone here still following f1?
I still do. Last week was great mostly due to the lack of Red Bull at the front
It's good to see a bit of competitiveness at the front, though Singapore is a bit of an oddball track. Seems Max was pretty pissed off though.
I've been watching all season except Monza
Louis and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/motorsports/hamilton-fined-and-reprimanded-for-crossing-live-f1-qatar-gp-track/ar-AA1hTjEc?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c884f558fbd44bf1ae1c7ea2eb5976f1&ei=55)...
Hamilton tangled with Russell into Turn 1 at the start of the Losail race, being spat out into the gravel by the contact that broke his right-rear wheel and ended his race.
While the race was under the safety car Hamilton then crossed the live circuit from the outside of Turn 1 to the pitlane on the inside, just seconds before Russell emerged from the pits.
The FIA stewards heard from an apologetic Hamilton after the race and handed him his first reprimand of 2023 as well as a €50,000 fine, half of which is suspended for the rest of the season.
Crazy race for sure... All the pit stops reminded me of the circus that is an Indy car race. McLaren is getting close!
F1 got lucky nobody got seriously hurt in that race. Sargent had a heat stroke. Stroll admitted to passing out while driving a few times. Occon puked in his helmet. Also read Albon might have been taken in after the race as well
This sucks...Hamilton and Leclerc disqualified from United States Grand Prix for technical breach (https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-hamilton-and-leclerc-disqualified-from-united-states-grand-prix-for.10nvuyvEPfMgoeWxWOhw0a.html)
Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc have both been disqualified from the United States Grand Prix. Following the race in Austin, their cars were inspected and irregularities were spotted by the FIA Technical team after a plank wear inspection was carried out.
But at least the Mercedes was showing good pace.
For a bit of a treat search out "The Racer Channel" in YouTube. McLaren brought some of their historic F1 cars out to Sonoma and let current drivers rip around.
Quote from: r0tor on November 13, 2023, 05:06:59 PMFor a bit of a treat search out "The Racer Channel" in YouTube. McLaren brought some of their historic F1 cars out to Sonoma and let current drivers rip around.
Very cool videos. Noted in one of them (Pato O'Ward Drives Hamilton's 2008 McLaren MP4/23) he says they could spend a few days with setups and shatter the track record with it. With a car from 2008? What does that say about modern F1 cars? Or was he referencing that specific car's record?
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 15, 2023, 05:28:41 PMVery cool videos. Noted in one of them (Pato O'Ward Drives Hamilton's 2008 McLaren MP4/23) he says they could spend a few days with setups and shatter the track record with it. With a car from 2008? What does that say about modern F1 cars? Or was he referencing that specific car's record?
He definitely meant the Sonoma track record... Which is a term that is a bit complicated as the track has so many different layouts.
Looking at wiki the track record could either mean something set by a privated owned 2004 F1 car or one of the old lemans prototype Audi R8 racecars
Re: Las Vegas. I am surprised how quickly they were able to solve the issues with the water valve covers coming lose. It was not an issue with poor welds that has happened 3,4 times previously, the F1 cars were pulling up the entire concrete casings. I thought this might endanger the whole weekend. The city of Las Vegas allowed the FIA to unbureaucratically remove the covers and casings and just plug the hole with a mix of concrete, asphalt and epoxy.
I hate to be the Las Vegas maintenance crew that has to chisel this all out on Monday. I also hope no one needs their water shut off in an emergency.....
Vegas was actually pretty great. I think the calendar needs some adjustment so the track is a bit warmer and maybe not so late at night, but otherwise the layout seemed pretty good and the casino lights did impress. The cool down Rolls Royce was the best cool down room too
I agree it was a good race, the low level of traction made it almost like a wet race. Perhaps there is something to Bernie's sprinkler idea after all. :lol:
From a TV coverage perspective, it could use some tweaking. My problem was you only get the Las Vegas atmosphere in the wide angle shots. In the close up, focused on the cars shots, you mostly saw cars driving between metal fences. It had almost a Prison atmosphere. Saudi Arabia has the same issue. For some reason this works better in Monaco and Baku.
I am surprised Max was not booed during the podium ceremony after he shit all over the city, with his "Monaco is Champions league , Vegas is national league comment." And then of course there was this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLALrHjALHk
I agree with some points, but he did not have to be so condescending.
This was curious The other teams had no reason to cover Toto Wolff/Mercedes GP.
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Aston Martin also posted the same, but I could not link.
Quote from: Galaxy on December 10, 2023, 02:02:46 AMThis was curious The other teams had no reason to cover Toto Wolff/Mercedes GP.
The media covering F1 is just becoming too gossipy.
It's the worst.
Of course baseball had a moment this week too, closely tracking a private flight from LA to Toronto because they thought it was Ohtani but it was actually one of the guys from Shark Tank :lol:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/full-statement-f1s-decision-to-reject-andrettis-entry-bid-for-2025/10571076/
So F1 rejects Andretti as not being seen as a competitive team. 3/4 of the field is not competitive!! Also turning a blind eye to the debacle that is the toro roso or visa crash app or whatever they are called being basically used by the parent team to help funding is a slap in the face.
I went ahead and cancelled my F1TV subscription today.
Andretti/GM could/should have bought into an existing team as engine supplier/whatever as Ford did with Red Bull.
Lewis to Ferrari in 2025, wtf
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 01, 2024, 09:22:19 AMLewis to Ferrari in 2025, wtf
There are a fantastic amount of Lewis hating diehard Ferrari fans out there... This will be entertaining
Quote from: r0tor on February 01, 2024, 09:37:48 AMThere are a fantastic amount of Lewis hating diehard Ferrari fans out there... This will be entertaining
All he needs to do is win and he will be their hero.
How long until SportsQueenSportsBook betting takes over F1? 🤮
The most competitive part of each race will be between Lewis and Leclerc. Might make the series worth watching.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 02, 2024, 03:10:21 AMHow long until SportsQueenSportsBook betting takes over F1? 🤮
Well we have Visa CashApp RB team now
So.... it was Red Bull Racing Director Helmut Marko who leaked the WhatsApp screenshots that incriminated Red Bull Racing CEO Christian Horner, to the other F1 Team Principles and the Media? :mask: There are reports that he is on the verge of being fired.
I thought the reports that Max Verstappen threatened to leave Red Bull was all BS, why would he leave the team that built arguably the best F1 car ever made, but based on this interview if Marko gets fired he will leave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abpV3rFxxzk
He talks about Marko being one of the key people that made Red Bull Racing, no mention of CEO Christian Horner.
Not a healthy atmosphere at Red Bull. Seems that Jos wants to get rid of Horner as well. Some dirty politics happening there. Seems that one of them will have to go. Wouldn't mind seeing Max at Mercedes next year fighting with Louis at Ferrari.
Quote from: Galaxy on March 08, 2024, 09:36:56 PMSo.... it was Red Bull Racing Director Helmut Marko who leaked the WhatsApp screenshots that incriminated Red Bull Racing CEO Christian Horner, to the other F1 Team Principles and the Media? :mask: There are reports that he is on the verge of being fired.
I thought the reports that Max Verstappen threatened to leave Red Bull was all BS, why would he leave the team that built arguably the best F1 car ever made, but based on this interview if Marko gets fired he will leave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abpV3rFxxzk
He talks about Marko being one of the key people that made Red Bull Racing, no mention of CEO Christian Horner.
i have gotten the strong feeling over the last year or so that max is tired of the "yea, but anyone could win in that car" comments that are tagged on to his wins/championships
So, will Newey go to Ferrari, Aston Martin, or Mercedes? :popcorn:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 25, 2024, 10:12:32 AMSo, will Newey go to Ferrari, Aston Martin, or Mercedes? :popcorn:
I think he should retire and give the rest of the field an even chance. However, if he does go anywhere, I hope it's Ferrari.