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#1
The Mainstream Room / Re: 3-Kid Family Hauler - Sugg...
Last post by AutobahnSHO - May 03, 2024, 07:11:18 AM
Very marginally related, I saw a 1992-1994 Chrysler minivan this morning. That was the gen2 which was mostly external facelift from the original minivan.

So quaint! So practical. :lol:
#2
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: Tesla
Last post by AutobahnSHO - May 03, 2024, 07:09:08 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 02, 2024, 07:48:35 PMNah, man. Company's fine. Just slimming down as production efficiency increased by 1,000%.

:thumbsup:
#3
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: Tesla
Last post by giant_mtb - May 02, 2024, 07:48:35 PM
Quote from: Laconian on May 02, 2024, 06:56:38 PMAll of Tesla just got fired. LOL

Nah, man. Company's fine. Just slimming down as production efficiency increased by 1,000%.
#4
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: Tesla
Last post by Laconian - May 02, 2024, 06:56:38 PM
All of Tesla just got fired. LOL
#5
The Mainstream Room / Re: 3-Kid Family Hauler - Sugg...
Last post by FoMoJo - May 02, 2024, 06:28:38 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 02, 2024, 05:50:18 PMI remember being able to look out the windows just fine as a kid...back when cars' beltlines were more like beltlines and not necklines like today. Didn't need 8" of carseat BS to elevate me and strap me down like a friggin' straightjacket.
To be practical, booster seats are 5 point harnesses that do reduce or prevent injury in an accident, which is the primary concern for parents.  Seat belts are pretty useless to protect kids as they are designed for adults. 
#6
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: Tesla
Last post by giant_mtb - May 02, 2024, 06:22:59 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on May 02, 2024, 06:05:46 PMI will say, the one boondoggle bigger than AD is humanoid robots (another fraud Tesla is into)!

I'm so tired of Elon. He's the epitome of starting with a paperclip and somehow trading it up to a Ferrari. Nothing his companies accomplish is his doing. He's a project manager at best, hence his consistent MO of over-promising and under-delivering.

I get why people support it, hype and futurism is fun, but I also don't get why some of those same people can't/don't take a critical look.
#7
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: Tesla
Last post by GoCougs - May 02, 2024, 06:05:46 PM
I will say, the one boondoggle bigger than AD is humanoid robots (another fraud Tesla is into)!
#8
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: Tesla
Last post by GoCougs - May 02, 2024, 06:03:25 PM
Quote from: 565 on May 02, 2024, 04:55:08 PMEverything is impossible until someone goes and does it.

People with a shit ton more experience with automotive engineering and autonomous driving than anyone on this forum certainly think it is possible and profitable or else they would not be wasting their careers working on it.

Tesla risking it all to do something innovative is exactly in character with the company and the cornerstone of how they went from nothing in 2008 to the most valuable car company today (some automakers still had models barely warmed over from pre2008 until recently). Tesla went from making a handful of electric lotus elises in 2008 to producing the best selling vehicle of 2023. Tesla launched a direct to consumer sales model when many said it couldn't be done. They single handedly created a charging network that works while the rest of the industry was a dumpster fire.  Their single large screen automotive interior design is rapidly being copied by the rest of the industry. However they got there by taking huge risks.  They abandoned their successful niche sports car market to make the Model S, and then they risked it all again to make the Model 3 which almost bankrupted the company.  Either way they kicked off the EV revolution, you'd have to be delusional to think that EVs would be where they are without Tesla.  Prior to Tesla, every modern EV was some super eco shitbox or oddity.

Objectively speaking the Tesla story is the most incredible automotive rise in our lifetimes.

They are risking it again now on autonomous driving.  Sure they might totally fail and go under, or they might actually pull it off and revolutionize the automotive industry again.  Either way they wouldn't be Tesla if they didn't at least try.

I have zero experience in either automotive or autonomous driving (aka, AD) but have many years in the exact technologies used in AD for "autonomous" operation of factory automation and robotics - vision, LIDAR, algos, safety, process design, etc. It's been 15 years, and AD hasn't worked, AD doesn't work, and there is no known path by which AD will ever work. These are facts that I welcome others to challenge. The AD "investment" continues because Tesla, Google, Cruise, Zoox and Apple have astronomical market capitalizations a goodly portion of which is due to WtP rewarding them for chasing The Next Big Thing.

Tesla gets away with its Funny Business because of its laughable market valuation (about equal to ALL notable established automakers combined - GM + Ford + Toyota + Honda + VWAG + etc.). If Tesla had a market valuation in line with other automakers, it literally would have ceased to exist many moons ago. But WtP need to be chasin'! As the EV market continues its decline and AD divestment continues, we'll see how long WtP will put up with the chase. My bet is there's a bit of steam left in it yet however.
#9
The Mainstream Room / Re: 3-Kid Family Hauler - Sugg...
Last post by giant_mtb - May 02, 2024, 05:50:18 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on May 02, 2024, 04:43:23 PMOther than the safety aspect, which may or may not be, it lets little kids look out the car windows.  Whenever I drive around with our 3 year old grandson, which is quite often, he's perched up in his seat with a constant monologue about what's happening out the windows..."I see a blue car, it's a red light, look at that noisy car, the light is green" etc.  He's a regular little back-seat driver.

I remember being able to look out the windows just fine as a kid...back when cars' beltlines were more like beltlines and not necklines like today. Didn't need 8" of carseat BS to elevate me and strap me down like a friggin' straightjacket.
#10
⚡ Electric Power ⚡ / Re: Tesla
Last post by 565 - May 02, 2024, 04:55:08 PM
Everything is impossible until someone goes and does it.

People with a shit ton more experience with automotive engineering and autonomous driving than anyone on this forum certainly think it is possible and profitable or else they would not be wasting their careers working on it.

Tesla risking it all to do something innovative is exactly in character with the company and the cornerstone of how they went from nothing in 2008 to the most valuable car company today (some automakers still had models barely warmed over from pre2008 until recently). Tesla went from making a handful of electric lotus elises in 2008 to producing the best selling vehicle of 2023. Tesla launched a direct to consumer sales model when many said it couldn't be done. They single handedly created a charging network that works while the rest of the industry was a dumpster fire.  Their single large screen automotive interior design is rapidly being copied by the rest of the industry. However they got there by taking huge risks.  They abandoned their successful niche sports car market to make the Model S, and then they risked it all again to make the Model 3 which almost bankrupted the company.  Either way they kicked off the EV revolution, you'd have to be delusional to think that EVs would be where they are without Tesla.  Prior to Tesla, every modern EV was some super eco shitbox or oddity.

Objectively speaking the Tesla story is the most incredible automotive rise in our lifetimes.

They are risking it again now on autonomous driving.  Sure they might totally fail and go under, or they might actually pull it off and revolutionize the automotive industry again.  Either way they wouldn't be Tesla if they didn't at least try.