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Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: BMWDave on September 22, 2005, 05:10:51 PM
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2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
By: Ed Hellwig

Date Posted 09-22-2005

Now that the 2006 Pontiac Solstice is finally trickling into dealerships across the country, engineers at Pontiac are focusing their energy on the next member of the Solstice family, the 2007 Solstice GXP.

Seen here making laps on the N?rburgring test track, the 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP should improve upon some of the standard model's sluggishness when pushed hard. The most significant upgrade will be the addition of a turbocharger to the standard 2.0-liter Ecotec four-cylinder. Aided by an auxiliary intercooler, the turbo system is expected to make as much as 250 horsepower.

In addition to the extra horsepower, the Solstice GXP is expected to get a six-speed manual transmission. This could make a big difference in the car's feel as the wide spacing of the standard model's five-speed transmission is one reason it feels so slow coming out of corners. We wouldn't mind seeing some throws to go with the new tranny.

One thing that doesn't appear to be changing is the size of the wheel and tire combination. No surprise there as the standard Solstice already has way more tire than it needs. A lighter set of wheels might have quickened up its reflexes, but it looks as though the prototype was using the same five-spoke setup you get on the current Solstice. Notable styling differences include an extra tailpipe out back, a small spoiler on the rear deck and a revised front fascia up front that includes a thin air intake to feed the turbo intercooler.

Look for the 2007 Solstice GXP to make its auto show debut early next year with sales beginning in the fall of 2006.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Raza on September 22, 2005, 05:46:37 PM
Maybe this will be enough to take out the MX-5.  Unless there's a Mazdaspeed version coming.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: mazda6er on September 22, 2005, 05:47:35 PM
QuoteMaybe this will be enough to take out the MX-5.  Unless there's a Mazdaspeed version coming.
I'm sure there is.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Tom on September 22, 2005, 06:09:26 PM
Oh baby, this is gonna be sweet.  It even has a hood that opens the cool way.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Colonel Cadillac on September 22, 2005, 07:03:50 PM
I am not a huge fan of the spoiler, but to make the car better I fully agree with it.

Overall, I am very impressed and excited.  
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Tom on September 22, 2005, 07:05:52 PM
QuoteI am not a huge fan of the spoiler, but to make the car better I fully agree with it.

Overall, I am very impressed and excited.
Watch what you say or the spoiler police will be on you.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Raghavan on September 22, 2005, 07:08:36 PM
the car is still fugly.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: 280Z Turbo on September 22, 2005, 07:10:21 PM
Quotethe car is still fugly.
At least it looks good from the inside.

You can't see how ugly it is from inside! :lol:  
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Raghavan on September 22, 2005, 07:12:23 PM
Quote
Quotethe car is still fugly.
At least it looks good from the inside.

You can't see how ugly it is from inside! :lol:
True, i really like the interior of this car.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: SJ_GTI on September 22, 2005, 10:01:28 PM
QuoteIn addition to the extra horsepower, the Solstice GXP is expected to get a six-speed manual transmission.
I hope this is true. I really dig the Solstice, but honestly I don't think I would buy one given the whacky gearing on the basic 5-speed it comes with. At a minimum they need to revise the gear spacing on the five speed, even if it means lowering the top speed.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Raza on September 23, 2005, 07:36:59 AM
GM should have given it a 6 speed from the beginning.  What's next?  They dial back their state of the art 4 speeds to 3 speeds?
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: SJ_GTI on September 23, 2005, 08:06:07 AM
QuoteGM should have given it a 6 speed from the beginning.  What's next?  They dial back their state of the art 4 speeds to 3 speeds?
To be fair there are not alot of cars under 20k that come with 6-speeds, and there are alot of cars over that amount that still use 5-speeds (aren't you supposedly a fan of the WRX...which uses a 5-speed?).

I think if they made an optional 6-speed for like and extra 1500 bucks or something that would have been a good idea.

Standard 5-speed manual
Optional 5-speed automatic
Optional 6-speed manual
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Raza on September 23, 2005, 08:11:05 AM
I am a huge fan of the WRX, but that doesn't mean I don't curse Subaru for not using their 6 speed manual in that (especially now that it has the 2.5) and the Legacy.  
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: thewizard16 on September 23, 2005, 08:54:27 AM
Quote
Quote
Quotethe car is still fugly.
At least it looks good from the inside.

You can't see how ugly it is from inside! :lol:
True, i really like the interior of this car.
I guess I'm in the minority, but I really dislike the interior of the Solstice. I think the outside is too cute, and the inside is too cheap looking, regardless of how it might feel.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: VetteZ06 on September 23, 2005, 04:20:11 PM
Quotethe car is still fugly.
Not a chance.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Raza on September 23, 2005, 04:23:42 PM
Quote
Quotethe car is still fugly.
Not a chance.
:D

I'm with you.

:praise:  
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Catman on September 23, 2005, 05:39:51 PM
I just can't see buying this over a Miata.  I know everyone's excited about it but look at the top it looks like they designed it as an afterthought.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: mazda6er on September 23, 2005, 06:02:00 PM
QuoteI just can't see buying this over a Miata.  I know everyone's excited about it but look at the top it looks like they designed it as an afterthought.
If I had a Solstice, the top would only be up when it was parked anyway. Otherwise, why ruin the lines?
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: SJ_GTI on September 23, 2005, 06:20:08 PM
QuoteI just can't see buying this over a Miata.  I know everyone's excited about it but look at the top it looks like they designed it as an afterthought.
It was designed as an afterthought.

Of course, that's part of the reason it looks so amazing when the top is down. before the Solstice there was no other car that even could look like it.

Don't get me wrong, I understand there will always be people that don't like a car no matter how its styled, but you guys that keep mentioning that you don't think it looks like that great have to realize that to 95-98% of the population its probably the sexiest car currently in productin (other than certain exotic italian cars). Its not a mass hallucination that all these reviewers talk about getting looks and getting stopped whenever they are test driving it.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Catman on September 23, 2005, 06:32:54 PM
Quote
QuoteI just can't see buying this over a Miata.  I know everyone's excited about it but look at the top it looks like they designed it as an afterthought.
It was designed as an afterthought.

Of course, that's part of the reason it looks so amazing when the top is down. before the Solstice there was no other car that even could look like it.

Don't get me wrong, I understand there will always be people that don't like a car no matter how its styled, but you guys that keep mentioning that you don't think it looks like that great have to realize that to 95-98% of the population its probably the sexiest car currently in productin (other than certain exotic italian cars). Its not a mass hallucination that all these reviewers talk about getting looks and getting stopped whenever they are test driving it.
Don't get me wrong, it is a sexy car, very good looking.  However, if I'm laying out the cash I can't say it's a better package than the Miata.  The top is just an annoyance to me.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Raza on September 23, 2005, 06:55:38 PM
(http://automobilemag.com/photo_gallery/0510_pontiac_solstice_08_445.jpg)

Looks good to me.

The biggest issue is getting out of the car to put it up or down.  Lame.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Catman on September 23, 2005, 07:33:11 PM
Quote(http://automobilemag.com/photo_gallery/0510_pontiac_solstice_08_445.jpg)

Looks good to me.

The biggest issue is getting out of the car to put it up or down.  Lame.
That was one of the annoyances I noticed.  When I used a Miata in Maui I put the top up and down frequently because of rain.  It would have been aggravating having to get out to do it all the time.

My wife just told me to stop posting on that "stupid thing".  She says we're all gay. <_<  
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: mazda6er on September 23, 2005, 07:34:54 PM
QuoteMy wife just told me to stop posting on that "stupid thing".  She says we're all gay. <_<
Are you gonna take that? Pull rank on her!  rokon.gif  :lol:  
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Colonel Cadillac on September 23, 2005, 07:37:24 PM
How very un-PC of her.  
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Catman on September 23, 2005, 07:37:31 PM
Quote
QuoteMy wife just told me to stop posting on that "stupid thing".  She says we're all gay. <_<
Are you gonna take that? Pull rank on her!  rokon.gif  :lol:
I'm past caring what she thinks. ;)  
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Catman on September 23, 2005, 07:39:24 PM
QuoteHow very un-PC of her.
Yeah, I wonder if she talks like that while she conducts her "diversity" training? :o  :lol:  
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: mazda6er on September 23, 2005, 07:40:14 PM
Quote
Quote
QuoteMy wife just told me to stop posting on that "stupid thing".? She says we're all gay. <_<
Are you gonna take that? Pull rank on her!  rokon.gif  :lol:
I'm past caring what she thinks. ;)
Damn, better not let her see that. I've found it useful to have a healthy fear of girls/women. They can be dangerous.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Catman on September 23, 2005, 07:41:13 PM
Quote
Quote
Quote
QuoteMy wife just told me to stop posting on that "stupid thing".? She says we're all gay. <_<
Are you gonna take that? Pull rank on her!  rokon.gif  :lol:
I'm past caring what she thinks. ;)
Damn, better not let her see that. I've found it useful to have a healthy fear of girls/women. They can be dangerous.
Yes, my wife has a serious "evil" side. ;)  
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Run Away on September 23, 2005, 10:13:09 PM
I am a lesbian....so I suppose she is partially correct.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: mazda6er on September 23, 2005, 10:16:17 PM
QuoteI am a lesbian....so I suppose she is partially correct.
Dude, quit it with the lesbian schtick.  :rolleyes:  
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: 280Z Turbo on September 23, 2005, 10:18:03 PM
Quote
QuoteI am a lesbian....so I suppose she is partially correct.
Dude, quit it with the lesbian schtick.  :rolleyes:
6er is right.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Run Away on September 23, 2005, 10:21:18 PM
Quote
QuoteI am a lesbian....so I suppose she is partially correct.
Dude, quit it with the lesbian schtick.  :rolleyes:
?
I'm not trying to be funny.
It makes sense in my mind.

As for the Kappa cars, I think they're all pretty ugly.

The Sky looks like it has a demented grin and the Solstice looks like a slightly used bar of soap with a bit of frogeye Sprite influence in the headlights.
It's not attractive to me, just sporty looking. It's like a buff ugly chick. Butch.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: mazda6er on September 23, 2005, 10:23:45 PM
I think they both look pretty good. There's something different about them in comparison to most current roadsters and I like to see that, especially from GM.

As for the lesbian thing: You are a man. Men are not lesbians. Therapy session over.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Run Away on September 23, 2005, 10:24:28 PM
Looking at the pictures again, it also looks buck-toothed.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Run Away on September 23, 2005, 10:25:36 PM
QuoteI think they both look pretty good. They'res something different about them in comparison to most current roadsters and I like to see that, especially from GM.

As for the lesbian thing: You are a man. Men are not lesbians. Therapy session over.
I'll call myself what I want - like I said, I wasn't trying to be funny for other people's benefit.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: mazda6er on September 23, 2005, 10:26:09 PM
Quote
QuoteI think they both look pretty good. They'res something different about them in comparison to most current roadsters and I like to see that, especially from GM.

As for the lesbian thing: You are a man. Men are not lesbians. Therapy session over.
I'll call myself what I want - like I said, I wasn't trying to be funny for other people's benefit.
Umm alright then. Sorry.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Raza on September 24, 2005, 01:54:14 PM
Quote
QuoteMy wife just told me to stop posting on that "stupid thing".  She says we're all gay. <_<
Are you gonna take that? Pull rank on her!  rokon.gif  :lol:
Seriously, man.  You've got a gun.  I'm not saying use it, just, you know, put the fear of god in her.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: cozmik on September 24, 2005, 03:31:44 PM
This should be the same basic engine as in the Saab 9-3 2.0T. The 2.0T eaisly makes 250 hp with any number of aftermarket computer upgrades, one of which Saab officially supports and warrants (the one from Hirsch).  
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: SJ_GTI on September 25, 2005, 03:17:10 AM
QuoteThis should be the same basic engine as in the Saab 9-3 2.0T. The 2.0T eaisly makes 250 hp with any number of aftermarket computer upgrades, one of which Saab officially supports and warrants (the one from Hirsch).
The Astra GTC makes that much power right from the factory, so I agree its shouldn't be an issue getting 250 HP from the 2.0T ecotech.

That being said it would be pretty cool if GM made a few different levels of Solstice. Base as is, 177 HP. Solstice GT with the 205 HP S/C 2.0 from the Cobalt, and a top-level 250 HP Solstice GXP.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: Raza on September 26, 2005, 09:17:52 AM
Do they have any LS1s lying about still?  I'd love one of those bastards in there.  Solstice SS.
Title: 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP Gets Turbocharged
Post by: giant_mtb on September 26, 2005, 01:07:26 PM
The only thing I don't like is the "GXP" part...whenever I hear that I think of the Grand Am/Grand Prix/whatever...not my fondest memories.