The new Supra

[12,000 RPM]

Barret Jackson charity cars are a politically correct dick measuring contest.  Nobody bidding more then 150k thought of it as an investment.  They outbid each other to show one another up and then get 50% of the money back.

That jealousy again

[2o6]

The Barrett Jackson cars usually have the proceeds go to charity. The money went to the American Heart Association.





WTF is wrong with you all

[FoMoJo]

The charities did really well at Barrett-Jackson, well over $5 million, much going to benefit veterans as well as United Appeal.

[BimmerM3]

Barret Jackson charity cars are a politically correct dick measuring contest.  Nobody bidding more then 150k thought of it as an investment.  They outbid each other to show one another up and then get 50% of the money back.

Which is not "looking for a tax write off."

[GoCougs]

Every year this happens when someone pays 50-100x sticker price for a charity car

Sure, but nobody in their right mind spends money to save money.

[Soup DeVille]

At best, they can figure they're not spending quite as much as they would on a non-charity purpose; its like getting a discount on a luxury item.

Sure, you got that watch on sale- that doesn't mean you made money.

[FoMoJo]

At best, they can figure they're not spending quite as much as they would on a non-charity purpose; its like getting a discount on a luxury item.

Sure, you got that watch on sale- that doesn't mean you made money.

People spend absurd amounts of money on collectibles, whether paintings, artifacts, etc.  There is only one serial number 1.  They guy who bought it has a museum in Florida.  It will never likely see any road time and remain on display unless someone else wants to pay more for it. 

[Klackamas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_7aTQzpIOI

[cawimmer430]

Saw the new Supra up close. Whoops, I meant Z4. 

I am 6'4" and found the space in the passenger seat to be a little tight (seat was positioned as far back as possible). Interior materials are good, build quality feels and looks great. It's gonna be a winner.

[cawimmer430]

Toyota Supra Engineer Says Model Needs To Evolve, Hints At Entry-Level And Performance Variant

Toyota unveiled the 2020 GR Supra at the North American International Auto Show earlier this year and it appears the company has big plans for the future.

In an interview with Top Gear, Supra chief engineer Tetsuya Tada said the "Supra needs to continue to evolve each year." This likely means we can expect to see a handful of new variants in the future.

While Tada was coy on specifics, he suggested there will eventually be an entry-level model that uses a BMW-sourced four-cylinder engine. The BMW Z4 sDrive30i features a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder that produces 255 hp (190 kW / 258 PS) and 295 lb-ft (400 Nm) of torque, and it's possible this engine could find its way into the Supra. If it does, we can expect the coupe to accelerate from 0-60 mph (0-96 km/h) in approximately 5.2 seconds.

While the engine is significantly less powerful than the turbocharged 3.0-liter inline six, which produces 335 hp (250 kW / 340 PS) and 365 lb-ft (494 Nm) of torque, Tada suggested the four-cylinder model could be around 220 lbs (110 kg) lighter.

Speaking of lighter models, Tada hinted at a performance variant with more power and a sportier suspension. He suggested the car could follow in the footsteps of the 86 GRMN which was introduced in 2015 with a carbon fiber hood, plexiglass windows and a large rear wing. The model was also had a retuned suspension, a 99 lbs (45 kg) weight reduction and an upgraded four-cylinder engine with 213 hp (159 kW / 216 PS) and 160 lb-ft (217 Nm) of torque.

In other news, Tada suggested a manual transmission remains a possibility and said a targa variant would be more likely than a convertible. Speaking of the latter, Tata said "I've looked at it" but noted some customers aren't fans of targas because of roof storage issues.

Tata also hinted the interior could be updated in the future. While he didn't go into details, the Supra borrows heavily from the BMW parts bin so Toyota might want to change that later down the road.



Link: https://www.carscoops.com/2019/03/toyota-supra-engineer-says-model-needs-to-evolve-hints-at-entry-level-and-performance-variant/

[Xer0]

Wake me up when Toyota stuffs their 5.0 V8 in this thing, now that will be something worth paying attention to. 

[CaminoRacer]

At least 2 of them are already getting 2JZ swaps. Toyota should make a trim level that comes with one from the factory

[cawimmer430]

Wake me up when Toyota stuffs their 5.0 V8 in this thing, now that will be something worth paying attention to. 

Wake you up out of a coma after you crash an understeering pig of a front-heavy Supra 5.0 V8?

[12,000 RPM]

At least 2 of them are already getting 2JZ swaps. Toyota should make a trim level that comes with one from the factory

Toyota should buy all the remaining 2JZs so I don't have to hear about people swapping them anymore

Tuning community needs some new ideas

[giant_mtb]

Toyota should buy all the remaining 2JZs so I don't have to hear about people swapping them anymore

Tuning community needs some new ideas

Like rims and coilovers?

[CaminoRacer]

Like rims and coilovers?

I feel attacked.

[Soup DeVille]

No, what we need are new from Toyota Crate 2JZs.

[CaminoRacer]

Yeah if GM can still be cranking out Gen I SBCs, Toyota can crank out some nice 2JZs.

[Xer0]

Would they even be able to actually make anymore 2JZs if they wanted to?  I imagine all of the tooling is long gone for those things and they'd have to start over.  Its not like GM which has been making the small block for pretty much 50 years straight un-interrupted.

[Soup DeVille]

Would they even be able to actually make anymore 2JZs if they wanted to?  I imagine all of the tooling is long gone for those things and they'd have to start over.  Its not like GM which has been making the small block for pretty much 50 years straight un-interrupted.

Maybe. A lot of the times, old tooling is leased to a third party to supply replacement parts after production has ended. Toyota tracks everything relentlessly.

[BimmerM3]

Damn, if I had gone back to my Toyota Manufacturing internship for more semesters, I might have an actual answer to this question. The plant I was at didn't decommission any production lines when I was there though.

[Soup DeVille]

They made 2JZs in one form or another until 2007. That means they supported parts for it until 2017. Its not unfathomable that most of the tooling is still intact somewhere. 

[GoCougs]

Review embargo lifted and and specs are out. 0-60 in 4.1 sec and starts at $50k. People are liking it. Also, example #23 why it's really no surprise manual transmissions are on the way out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcHmDnI5-Nw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2pLOc1K8mg

[MX793]

Matt Farah's review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lulZDyqW_7w

[565]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a27456854/2020-toyota-supra-testing-acceleration-zero-to-60/

Seems like decent stats.  3.8 0 to 60 and 12.3 quarter mile.  1.07gs on the skidpad. 

Only thing that is lacking is trap speed at 113mph.

I previously thought this car would be a joke but it doesnt seem to be.

[Eye of the Tiger]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a27456854/2020-toyota-supra-testing-acceleration-zero-to-60/

Seems like decent stats.  3.8 0 to 60 and 12.3 quarter mile.  1.07gs on the skidpad. 

Only thing that is lacking is trap speed at 113mph.

I previously thought this car would be a joke but it doesnt seem to be.

But it's not a 10 second car.

[12,000 RPM]

12 second quarter mile.... so it's faster than an 800HP MK4

[MX793]

12 second quarter mile.... so it's faster than an 800HP MK4

Everybody knows that there's no difference in 1/4 mile times on mkIVs once you cross the 400hp mark.

[MrH]

12.3 in the quarter mile is quick.  Way faster than I thought it would be.

[Payman]

Since the car does it for you, it should be quick.