Quote from: Morris Minor on April 26, 2024, 07:17:59 AMI sat through all of this last night. It's a bit like Home Shopping Network infomercials of old but, for surface streets at least FSD now looks good. The move at 6m23 got my attention (https://youtu.be/43Lrrhn0CMk?si=7KwbNIGbKQkGKhJU&t=383), when it moved over at the red light to give the turning car more elbow room. That was impressive.

Whole thing.

Everyone got a full FSD trial this month.  It works great except in situations with stop signs.  It's because the government mandated that Teslas FSD comes to a full stop at stop signs rather than rolling through just like everyone else.  The good thing is you can nudge it along with the accelerator while it's at a stop sign so the people behind you don't go ballistic.

I would say it drives like a good tourist driver in a new city.  It follows rules and does well for being cautious but doesn't have the experience of someone who knows the area. 

FSD before version 12 was definitely not worth the subscription cost.  Now with this AI version I think I'll pay the 99 bucks a month when the trial runs out.

I was being at least mostly facetious, as I'd probably be driving relatively slow in dense environs like that as well.  Shit, I get road rage triggered by people that drive more than like 5mph in a grocery store parking lot. People that zoom through parking lots can't be trusted.

Quote from: giant_mtb on April 26, 2024, 08:03:42 AMThing barely ever even hit the speed limit. Now I know why Teslas are always going so slow, despite their aMaZiNg ability to do 0-60 in .02 seconds.

I questioned all-knowing Grok God...
Q: In full FSD, what determines the driving speeds and any offsets from posted limits?

A: "In full FSD (Full Self-Driving), the driving speeds and any offsets from posted limits are determined by a combination of the vehicle's understanding of its environment and the user's preferences. The FSD software, as of version 12, includes a new feature called "Automatic Set Speed Offset," which allows the Autopilot system to autonomously determine the most appropriate driving speed based on real-time conditions. This feature considers factors such as the type of road, current traffic flow, environmental conditions, and the driver's selected FSD profile, which can range from "Chill" to "Assertive."

Additionally, the user has some control over the driving speed through the "Speed Limit Offset" feature. This allows the user to set a fixed speed or percentage offset from the speed limit, offering a more customized and comfortable driving experience. However, the user is advised to be aware of speed limits and the potential consequences of driving above them, as the system may warn the driver when exceeding the speed limit.

The overall goal of these features is to ensure that the vehicle operates at safe and appropriate speeds while providing a smooth and comfortable ride for the driver and passengers."

They're silent so it's not as obvious.

Watching a Model S Plaid and Model 3 Performance at autocross events is pretty crazy. The Plaid fights for top time of the day pretty frequently. Absolutely insane acceleration, and enough tire to grip around the corners although you can tell it's heavier than the Porsches and Corvettes that run similar times.

Quote from: giant_mtb on April 26, 2024, 08:03:42 AMThing barely ever even hit the speed limit. Now I know why Teslas are always going so slow, despite their aMaZiNg ability to do 0-60 in .02 seconds.

That actually had me thinking the other day... I see so many Teslas on the road but I don't think I ever have seen one do any kind of impressive acceleration run

Thing barely ever even hit the speed limit. Now I know why Teslas are always going so slow, despite their aMaZiNg ability to do 0-60 in .02 seconds.

Quote from: Rich on April 25, 2024, 06:11:34 PMI tried FSD in the Model Y test drive.  On the highway I merged into the right lane of 3 lanes, but then, it moved to the center of 3 lanes.  The message on the screen said something like "staying out of rightmost lane".

I would take a machete to the throat of the engineers that designed that into the system.

I sat through all of this last night. It's a bit like Home Shopping Network infomercials of old but, for surface streets at least FSD now looks good. The move at 6m23 got my attention (https://youtu.be/43Lrrhn0CMk?si=7KwbNIGbKQkGKhJU&t=383), when it moved over at the red light to give the turning car more elbow room. That was impressive.

Whole thing.

Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 25, 2024, 09:41:21 AMI looked at a motorcycle at a dealership one time and they wasted like 40 minutes of my time just to tell me they'd only give me a couple hundred bucks for my GS550 if I traded it in. Never stepped foot in there again. If you can't respect your customers' time, why should they give you thousands of dollars?

I think the theory is that customer will follow the sunk cost fallacy. If a customer has already spent a lot of their time at a particular dealer during the buying process they are less likely to just walk away from the deal over "small" issues.

Quote from: Rich on April 25, 2024, 06:11:34 PMI tried FSD in the Model Y test drive.  On the highway I merged into the right lane of 3 lanes, but then, it moved to the center of 3 lanes.  The message on the screen said something like "staying out of rightmost lane".

I would take a machete to the throat of the engineers that designed that into the system.

They drive like 90% of the country.

I tried FSD in the Model Y test drive.  On the highway I merged into the right lane of 3 lanes, but then, it moved to the center of 3 lanes.  The message on the screen said something like "staying out of rightmost lane".

I would take a machete to the throat of the engineers that designed that into the system.