The Official C8 Corvette Thread...

[Payman]

It made me think of other cars in the recent past that changed the game...

1964.5 Ford Mustang
1974 VW Rabbit
1984 Pontiac Fiero (initially, but GM bungled a great idea)
1987 Chevy CK Pickup
1990 Mazda Miata
1990 Acura NSX
1990 Nissan 300ZX TT
McLaren F1
1997 Porsche Boxster

[Payman]

I thought it was cooler at 3300lbs. But that’s dry weight. It’ll be 3600ish?

When you consider that more advanced and lighter materials (and their manufacture) could have been used to drive curb weight down another 300 lbs or so, but add unacceptable expense to the car, I think 3600 curb weight is perfectly fine. It's just a number that one shouldn't be hung up on, given the promised performance and driving experience the C8 offers.

[12,000 RPM]

I tell you hwut

If all V8s sounded like the C7R, I'd choose one over any 6 popper any day. Spent most of yesterday on my sim going through all the GT3 cars... that C7R engine note is head and shoulders above the rest and will put some hair on your chest

I think I would still prefer 3 pedals on the street though

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

When you consider that more advanced and lighter materials (and their manufacture) could have been used to drive curb weight down another 300 lbs or so, but add unacceptable expense to the car, I think 3600 curb weight is perfectly fine. It's just a number that one shouldn't be hung up on, given the promised performance and driving experience the C8 offers.

[ChrisV]

Here's the actual wheels I'd use, HRE P101s.



The rear isn't looking as bad as originally thought. Certainly no worse than a Hurrican.

[Payman]

I like those wheels. Similar to what the '04-'06 Ford GT had.

[CaminoRacer]

I miss the quad center exhaust. But the rear looks good with the bigger wang.

[CaminoRacer]

I like those wheels. Similar to what the '04-'06 Ford GT had.

HRE is definitely a good brand for this car.

[Payman]

I miss the quad center exhaust. But the rear looks good with the bigger wang.

Wasn't center diffuser for downforce friendly. I like the quad stack on the C7 too.

[12,000 RPM]

They should have made a top firing exhaust. Maybe/hopefully that will come with later versions

[Payman]

They should have made a top firing exhaust. Maybe/hopefully that will come with later versions

I think that's a gimmick that would have been too much of a packaging PITA.

[GoCougs]

I'm not a fan of the square-ish exhaust tips.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I miss the quad center exhaust. But the rear looks good with the bigger wang.

Ditto! The wheel selection is the only thing I'm unhappy about!

[12,000 RPM]

I think that's a gimmick that would have been too much of a packaging PITA.

More downforce is never a gimmick

I would bet it's coming for the performance versions... bye bye golf trunk

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

More downforce is never a gimmick

I would bet it's coming for the performance versions... bye bye golf trunk

I don't think it'll lose the rear trunk but I'm pretty sure that front will be gone on the Z06/ZR1.....

[Raza]

I've been having an argument (started by this car) on another forum about DCTs being automatics.  The argument boils down to

Them: It has a clutch, therefore it's a manual.  It's an automated manual.
Me: When you automate something, doesn't it become automatic?
Them: Yes.
Me: ...
Them: It's a manual.
Me: It shifts automatically, it's an automatic.
Them: It's a manual.
Me: Having a clutch doesn't make it a manual.
Them: You've just never driven one.
Me: I have a car with a DCT.
Them: It's a manual. 
Me: I'm probably going to start insulting you soon. 

It's now turned into memes. 



I like this next one a lot.  It speaks to the ridiculousness of arguing that a dual clutch automatic with manual mode is different to the average end user from a torque converter automatic with a manual mode.  No one uses manual mode.  I only did before I got a real manual car.  I flick it on sometimes in the S4 when I like am merging into highway traffic and I don't want it to shift up, but then I often put it back in drive.

[Soup DeVille]

Something something fully semi-automatic.

Yes, it has a clutch, which is also automatic.

Chances are there's also a clutch on the alternator, and the starter motor. They also work automatically.

[Submariner]

I've been having an argument (started by this car) on another forum about DCTs being automatics.  The argument boils down to

Them: It has a clutch, therefore it's a manual.  It's an automated manual.
Me: When you automate something, doesn't it become automatic?
Them: Yes.
Me: ...
Them: It's a manual.
Me: It shifts automatically, it's an automatic.
Them: It's a manual.
Me: Having a clutch doesn't make it a manual.
Them: You've just never driven one.
Me: I have a car with a DCT.
Them: It's a manual. 
Me: I'm probably going to start insulting you soon. 

It's now turned into memes. 



I like this next one a lot.  It speaks to the ridiculousness of arguing that a dual clutch automatic with manual mode is different to the average end user from a torque converter automatic with a manual mode.  No one uses manual mode.  I only did before I got a real manual car.  I flick it on sometimes in the S4 when I like am merging into highway traffic and I don't want it to shift up, but then I often put it back in drive.

There is something pathological and immensely draining with people like that.

[12,000 RPM]

Raza loves it.

[Xer0]

I've been having an argument (started by this car) on another forum about DCTs being automatics.  The argument boils down to

Them: It has a clutch, therefore it's a manual.  It's an automated manual.
Me: When you automate something, doesn't it become automatic?
Them: Yes.
Me: ...
Them: It's a manual.
Me: It shifts automatically, it's an automatic.
Them: It's a manual.
Me: Having a clutch doesn't make it a manual.
Them: You've just never driven one.
Me: I have a car with a DCT.
Them: It's a manual. 
Me: I'm probably going to start insulting you soon. 

It's now turned into memes. 



I like this next one a lot.  It speaks to the ridiculousness of arguing that a dual clutch automatic with manual mode is different to the average end user from a torque converter automatic with a manual mode.  No one uses manual mode.  I only did before I got a real manual car.  I flick it on sometimes in the S4 when I like am merging into highway traffic and I don't want it to shift up, but then I often put it back in drive.

Can't believe you're cheating on us with another forum.

[Raza]

Raza loves it.

Not as much anymore.  It's tiring to go in circles.  I'm older now, I may have softened in my approach, but I do have less patience for just talking in circles anymore.  Endless argument no longer appeals.

[Raza]

There is something pathological and immensely draining with people like that.

It really gets to be.  They won't even concede (it's 3 people) that when you automate something it becomes automatic. 

[12,000 RPM]

Why do you need them to concede

It takes at least two to have a stupid argument

[Raza]

Can't believe you're cheating on us with another forum.

It's a watch forum, it just has a car thread.  Just like this is a car forum (I think) that has a watch thread. 

It's fun over there, because I get to be all snobby and not feel bad about it.  It's all about luxury items.  Here, it's like "I was thinking about eating ramen for lunch" and the response is "If you put that ramen money into a mutual fund in 10 years you can buy three packs of ramen and retire 1/8th of a minute earlier".

[Raza]

Why do you need them to concede

It takes at least two to have a stupid argument

That's true.  I am right, but it's beginning to feel like this:



It's just a mountain of evidence against them.  I quoted Car and Driver, Road & Track, and Motor Trend, who all call it an automatic.  They said "Oh, like the media has never gotten anything wrong before".  I noted that Audi and VW, the companies that first brought DCTs to market, both call the DSG an automatic and that neither Porsche (the company that essentially invented it) nor Chevrolet call it a manual, but that fell on deaf ears.  I pointed out the logical misstep in saying that once you automate something it remains manual.  Nothing. 

If you go to Target and the automated doors open up, you don't describe the doors as "manual doors that have an automatic mode, but are still manual doors because they can be operated manually if the user so chooses", you call them "automatic doors".  But it's "it has a clutch, therefore it's a manual". 

I'm enjoying making the memes, though. 



Shame I'll never be able to use these again. 

[SJ_GTI]

[CaminoRacer]

They're automatics and that's final

[Galaxy]

Manumatics?

[FoMoJo]

Semi-automatic?

[12,000 RPM]

You can use them in manual mode