I picked up the sonic.
Only 46k, LTZ turbo manual hatch.
I am having an issue checked out with a 2nd gear that grinds when downshifting.
However the general manager sold it to me, and he was able to replicate the issue - also I caught it and returned it in the hour and a half so far that I've owned it. A
It has 15 months of powertrain left, so I'm confident it'll be fine.
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Congrats! :cheers:
Nice hood! :lol:
That's pretty badass. I'd like to drive one to see what it's like
Me gusta
I think the previous owner put the dealer installed Borla exhaust on it.
Dealer Says the shift linkage may need adjustment. They're putting me in a car for the time being.
:cheers:
Nice shoes. Very African
Hope you enjoy this one. You've been looking at these for a minute
Quote from: 2o6 on March 29, 2016, 12:09:05 PM
Dealer Says the shift linkage may need adjustment. They're putting me in a car for the time being.
:cheers:
Shift linkage adjustment, top off the trans fluid, or a slight clutch adjustment could all be the culprit and easy to fix.
Congrats!!!
(shoes don't match the car color :lol: )
Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 29, 2016, 01:00:27 PM
Shift linkage adjustment, top off the trans fluid, or a slight clutch adjustment could all be the culprit and easy to fix.
Yeah it only does it coming down, and only on 2nd.
Worst to worst, a new Trans. And since I've only owned the car three hours, I shouldn't be liable for a dime. Or at worst, they're undoing the deal.
Needs new Trans.
Transmission is ordered.
Also might need a fuel pump since I'm having some starting issues
Both are under warranty, but either way who cares I've owned a car literally four hours.
Not concerned.
Dang.
Very nice, BK.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on March 29, 2016, 01:58:09 PM
Dang.
Eh, I'm not super concerned. I'm glad they're putting in a new transmission.
They're going to take care of it.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 29, 2016, 02:04:46 PM
Eh, I'm not super concerned. I'm glad they're putting in a new transmission.
They're going to take care of it.
Are the transmissions known to be fragile? If a manual transmission has to be replaced at 46k, I wonder how hard it was beat on by the PO and what else might be wrong with it...
Hopefully it'll be good to go for a long time after the new transmission.
Do a new clutch and bearing at the same time. This car was abused, but you caught it, luckily.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on March 29, 2016, 02:22:27 PM
Are the transmissions known to be fragile? If a manual transmission has to be replaced at 46k, I wonder how hard it was beat on by the PO and what else might be wrong with it...
Hopefully it'll be good to go for a long time after the new transmission.
It's kind of an issue on the 2012 cars I'm told.
It wasn't a hard grind, and not always present, and only grinds occasionally when shifting down.
My Yaris sedan had a shit 3rd and 2nd synchro, and the hatch had issues too.
Congrats,
But what in the hell is it with GM and shift linkages?
That's all I seem to hear over at the corvette forum, shift linkage this, shift linkage that.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 29, 2016, 11:25:34 AM
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CONGRATS! What's the small slot above the Hazard button for?
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on March 29, 2016, 03:08:44 PM
CONGRATS! What's the small slot above the Hazard button for?
Parking tickets/garage cards/toll tickets
Congratulations, man. I know you've wanted one of these for a while.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 29, 2016, 02:50:25 PM
It's kind of an issue on the 2012 cars I'm told.
It wasn't a hard grind, and not always present, and only grinds occasionally when shifting down.
My Yaris sedan had a shit 3rd and 2nd synchro, and the hatch had issues too.
Is the 2nd gear synchro the problem here as well?
I'd think replacing the syncro would be cheaper, but maybe not with labor costs.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 29, 2016, 03:34:45 PM
Is the 2nd gear synchro the problem here as well?
I'd think replacing the syncro would be cheaper, but maybe not with labor costs.
Most are "non serviceable"
Which usually translates to "we don't know how here"
Quote from: 2o6 on March 29, 2016, 03:41:23 PM
Most are "non serviceable"
Which usually translates to "we don't know how here"
Better deal for you. I'd rather have them replace the entire transmission than tear it apart.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on March 29, 2016, 03:56:08 PM
Better deal for you. I'd rather have them replace the entire transmission than tear it apart.
Same.
Nice.
Sweet car dude, congratulations. That thing is sharp
Congrats! That's a ton of car for the money. Like a more practical fiesta st at a bargain price on the used market. Needing a new transmission and fuel pump at 46k miles is a little worrisome, but at least it's getting taken care of :lol:
Any chance you can swap out the head unit for one of the new Chevy touch screens with CarPlay and android auto? Future bro-in-law had a new Silverado as a rental. Chevy's infotainment is one of the best out there I think.
I just checked the Sonic forum, there's a 70 page thread dedicated to the 2nd gear grind. Most guys had it taken care of in 2012-2013 and they were generally first model year cars. My car has lower miles than average.
I'm not super upset - the general manager is the guy who sold me the car and got me financing so it's on him and in taking care of me.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 29, 2016, 05:46:41 PM
I just checked the Sonic forum, there's a 70 page thread dedicated to the 2nd gear grind. Most guys had it taken care of in 2012-2013 and they were generally first model year cars. My car has lower miles than average.
I'm not super upset - the general manager is the guy who sold me the car and got me financing so it's on him and in taking care of me.
Replace the clutch while the tranny is pulled.
Quote from: MrH on March 29, 2016, 05:36:18 PM
Any chance you can swap out the head unit for one of the new Chevy touch screens with CarPlay and android auto? Future bro-in-law had a new Silverado as a rental. Chevy's infotainment is one of the best out there I think.
Definitely up there with u-connect as far as how easy it is to use. Hell my dad even figured out how to connect his iPhone via bluetooth to a new Silverado. He didn't know what to do with it, but he connected it! :lol: That's way more than most cars where he can't figure out how to change radio stations.
I'm finally in front of my computer so I can now properly respond to everyone. Responding via my phone is a PITA and I don't like it.
Quote from: MrH on March 29, 2016, 05:36:18 PM
Congrats! That's a ton of car for the money. Like a more practical fiesta st at a bargain price on the used market. Needing a new transmission and fuel pump at 46k miles is a little worrisome, but at least it's getting taken care of :lol:
Any chance you can swap out the head unit for one of the new Chevy touch screens with CarPlay and android auto? Future bro-in-law had a new Silverado as a rental. Chevy's infotainment is one of the best out there I think.
Nope, not even possible. GM is rude and changes the CANBUS and other shit so that they're not interchagable without getting a wiring harness from a 2013+ car, and even still it's a hell of a lot of work for something you can install and get easier from the aftermarket. I'm pretty sure you won't even be able to do the Apple CarPlay stuff from 2016+ in the 2015 car even though I'm pretty sure they're virtually the same head unit.
Also, this is an LTZ, not an RS. The LTZ has the same suspension as the LT/LS models, but the wheels are bigger and it has all the goodies.
Also, there's a 60HP power differential and my car is around 350 lbs heavier.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on March 29, 2016, 02:52:18 PM
Congrats,
But what in the hell is it with GM and shift linkages?
That's all I seem to hear over at the corvette forum, shift linkage this, shift linkage that.
True. Turns out a synchro is bad.
Also, my Anti GM friend said it was spewing black smoke when I did a hard accelration,
But I also only have 87 octane in it, and the car was cold, and it's cold outside.
I feel like he's trying to make me paranoid.
Have em do a compression check
It was also night time when he allegedly saw this. He's openly stated he thinks this car is a dumb decision.
Lol black smoke at night.
:hammerhead:
Quote from: 2o6 on March 30, 2016, 08:51:30 AM
It was also night time when he allegedly saw this. He's openly stated he thinks this car is a dumb decision.
I'm anti-GM, but your friend sounds like a dick.
What kind of car does this friend drive
Pics from today at work
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I'm really digging the mudflaps
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Quote from: 2o6 on March 30, 2016, 02:34:58 PM
Scion xB.
Opinion automatically invalidated, then.
Quote from: 93JC on March 30, 2016, 04:14:13 PM
Opinion automatically invalidated, then.
To be fair, it's an xB 1 and it's got 260k on it so maybe idk
Or maybe he's just being a royal dick.
I think if it did give any "black smoke" it's a combo of cold car, low octane gas, me accelerating from the wrong gear, etc. if it had a "big cloud" I'm pretty sure a tech would catch it.
I mentioned it to the sales guy, who is also the GM of the entire dealership, so he said his guys would check out and take care of all the issues.
The transmission just arrived, and they're doing the fuel pump too. To be honest, I'm excited cause I'm basically getting half a new car for my troubles.
Totally awesome!
Wait, where are the center AC vents?!
Quote from: MrH on March 30, 2016, 06:44:19 PM
Wait, where are the center AC vents?!
Uh, yeah... ?
(http://static.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/images/Auto/izmo/i5612/2016_chevrolet_sonic_airvents.jpg)
Are you guys joking?
They're above the radio screen. The two big rectangular things above the display....
Those two big holes on either side of the radio are cubbies for stuff.
Oh, that's strange. There's even cut outs on the bottom of them that looks like it's made for a vent wheel.
Lol that threw me off too. Those are vent locations on other GM cars.
Kev you didn't answer... are they replacing the clutch too? Now is the time to do it.
Quote from: MrH on March 30, 2016, 07:19:39 PM
Oh, that's strange. There's even cut outs on the bottom of them that looks like it's made for a vent wheel.
Phones fit very well in that groove without sliding around. I use the USB connection for my iPhone
Quote from: Rockraven on March 30, 2016, 07:24:59 PM
Lol that threw me off too. Those are vent locations on other GM cars.
Kev you didn't answer... are they replacing the clutch too? Now is the time to do it.
Tbh, likely not. I'll ask about it when I drop the car off but I don't think it's that big of a deal.
On flat ground, this thing will average 37MPG
At 82 MPH.
The Yaris only did 25ish at that speed.
Damn, that's not far off my bike's MPG. :mask:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on March 30, 2016, 09:01:58 PM
Damn, that's not far off my bike's MPG. :mask:
This car has three overdrive gears; it's geared slightly taller than the Cruze Eco, which has a different gearbox from the regular manual Cruze.
At 70MPH the car is barely turning 2k rpm, where as the Yaris was over 3k.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 30, 2016, 08:54:06 PM
Tbh, likely not. I'll ask about it when I drop the car off but I don't think it's that big of a deal.
Your call, but I would. There's practically zero extra labour.
Also, I don't know of you've noticed, but the rear spoiler is from the RS model.
(https://www.facebook.com/Domleeshawn/posts/10154151010109940)
Versus
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Congrats, dude.
You have the ideal Sonic spec: hatch, big wheels, front fogs, leatherette, turbo, manual and mudflaps.
All cars should have mudflaps!
Pity about the ricer hood, but that's an easy fix.
Quote from: Madman on March 30, 2016, 09:19:55 PM
Congrats, dude.
You have the ideal Sonic spec: hatch, big wheels, front fogs, leatherette, turbo, manual and mudflaps.
All cars should have mudflaps!
Pity about the ricer hood, but that's an easy fix.
I wish it had a sunroof!
An identical sonic with a sunroof (and 20k more miles) popped up on Autotrader on the way to pick up the one I have now.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 30, 2016, 09:19:38 PM
Also, I don't know of you've noticed, but the rear spoiler is from the RS model.
(https://www.facebook.com/Domleeshawn/posts/10154151010109940)
Versus
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First picture isn't working.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 30, 2016, 09:22:46 PM
I wish it had a sunroof!
An identical sonic with a sunroof (and 20k more miles) popped up on Autotrader on the way to pick up the one I have now.
Sunroofs are overrated. Sure, they're great to have on the three perfectly nice days a year when you can really enjoy opening one. But the other 362 days a year are either too hot, too cold or too rainy/snowy to make having one worthwhile.
I used my sunroof 300+ days a year when I had one, and I had the shade open 365.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on March 30, 2016, 09:26:40 PM
First picture isn't working.
Eh, just compare it to mine.
Quote from: Rockraven on March 30, 2016, 09:11:59 PM
Your call, but I would. There's practically zero extra labour.
+1
Should be pretty cheap insurance.
Sunroof has lost its appeal to me. Most of the time I'm in the car I'm driving well beyond open fenestration speeds, and when I'm not it's too fcking hot! Also I don't feel the need to let everyone hear my music (which is usually NPR nowadays). Only reason I got a sunroof in my car is because Honda bundled sunroofs with rear discs, ABS and EBD in my car.
They gave me a 1.8 auto Sonic LT sedan for my loaner
- man, it's notably slower
- there's like a 8 MPG difference between mine and this
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 31, 2016, 05:58:44 AM
Sunroof has lost its appeal to me. [...] Also I don't feel the need to let everyone hear my music (which is usually NPR nowadays).
Fuck that man, I was at the university today for a meeting and on my way back to the office I had the windows rolled down listening to the CBC. :praise:
I love sunroofs. I won't buy a hardtop without one..........
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on March 31, 2016, 07:28:35 PM
I love sunroofs. I won't buy a hardtop without one..........
I figured you more of a T-Top man. :ohyeah: :partyon:
Quote from: Rockraven on March 31, 2016, 08:07:47 PM
I figured you more of a T-Top man. :ohyeah: :partyon:
HEY! I like those too! Had em on my '94 Z28! :dance:
Quote from: 2o6 on March 31, 2016, 03:04:36 PM
They gave me a 1.8 auto Sonic LT sedan for my loaner
- man, it's notably slower
- there's like a 8 MPG difference between mine and this
How much do you drive? Or is that the computer mpgeez?
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 01, 2016, 05:39:41 AM
How much do you drive? Or is that the computer mpgeez?
For what it's worth, nearly every car I've been in lately has a trip computer that's nearly spot on with the manual calculation. I can't recall a variation of more than 1.5 mpg, and most are within .5 mpg. The days of them being laughably unrealistic are hopefully behind us.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 31, 2016, 03:04:36 PM
They gave me a 1.8 auto Sonic LT sedan for my loaner
- man, it's notably slower
- there's like a 8 MPG difference between mine and this
Yeah, the turbo really should have been standard. The 1.8-liter is just unacceptable in today's market. You can get a crossovers with better mileage than the 1.8-liter Sonic.
Quote from: ifcar on April 01, 2016, 05:57:21 AM
For what it's worth, nearly every car I've been in lately has a trip computer that's nearly spot on with the manual calculation. I can't recall a variation of more than 1.5 mpg, and most are within .5 mpg. The days of them being laughably unrealistic are hopefully behind us.
Interesting.
I just finally got rid of my last car that didn't come with a keyfob in Dec2015. I'm behind the times, usually. :mrcool:
I got my car back, it's so much better with the new transmission!
They reflashed the ECU and did an update, the car has only done it once more since I got it back as far as starting rough. (It starts fine immediately aftwerwards). I checked, there's a service bulletin about this. The remedy is to use better fuel, first. Low quality fuel will cause it do to this.
My first tank was 87 octane, but now I'm going to run 91 or better in this car now. It also runs a hell of a lot better with 91-93 octane than it did with 87, even though GM says it *can* run on 87.
I think I need to learn how to drive it, I feel like me shutting off immediately after stopping isn't good for the Turbo.
I think the "cool the turbo down" thing has been solved with model metallurgy. I wouldn't worry about it.
I thought the turbo timing issue was with coking the oil, not with the turbo itself. It's not a problem with synthetic oil.
http://www.sonicownersforum.com/forum/1-4l-turbo-sonic-engine-discussion/9859-factory-problems-2.html (http://www.sonicownersforum.com/forum/1-4l-turbo-sonic-engine-discussion/9859-factory-problems-2.html)
This may be my issue basically low octane gas gumming stuff up
I also think that the fact it's a GM product, my car friends keep finding "things wrong" and the fact it's turbo is making me more nervous than I'm used to being.
warranty though :lol:
I would just say the last couple minutes of driving take it easy and the turbo will be fine cooling down. (Army trucks "required 5min of idle before shutdown" but we NEVER did that.....)
I thought the whole thing was solved when they started using water cooled turbos in the 80's.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 02, 2016, 01:24:58 PM
warranty though :lol:
I would just say the last couple minutes of driving take it easy and the turbo will be fine cooling down. (Army trucks "required 5min of idle before shutdown" but we NEVER did that.....)
Army trucks are known for always being in good condition, too.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on April 02, 2016, 01:39:51 PM
I thought the whole thing was solved when they started using water cooled turbos in the 80's.
It pretty much was.
The whole cool down the turbo thing is paranoia designed to sell gewgaws like turbo timers (on stock cars at least).
Quote from: Rupert on April 02, 2016, 02:18:54 PM
Army trucks are known for always being in good condition, too.
They run.
Quote from: 2o6 on April 02, 2016, 01:18:06 PM
I also think that the fact it's a GM product, my car friends keep finding "things wrong" and the fact it's turbo is making me more nervous than I'm used to being.
You're likely not going to keep it very long, so it should hold out for a few weeks/months anyways.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 02, 2016, 02:34:47 PM
It pretty much was.
The whole cool down the turbo thing is paranoia designed to sell gewgaws like turbo timers (on stock cars at least).
My neighbors' '98ish Saab had some cooling fan running after you shut off the car. Or is that just a Saab thing?
Quote from: ifcar on April 02, 2016, 02:52:14 PM
My neighbors' '98ish Saab had some cooling fan running after you shut off the car. Or is that just a Saab thing?
Possibly. Saabs are all quite weird. At least real Saabs were.
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 02, 2016, 02:43:26 PM
You're likely not going to keep it very long, so it should hold out for a few weeks/months anyways.
???
Quote from: Laconian on April 02, 2016, 12:09:07 PM
I thought the turbo timing issue was with coking the oil, not with the turbo itself. It's not a problem with synthetic oil.
30-60 seconds after a long drive is hardly a price to pay to be sure. I did it with my turbos.
Quote from: 2o6 on April 02, 2016, 03:11:45 PM
???
I thought that you flip your cars quite frequently.
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 03, 2016, 08:08:22 AM
I thought that you flip your cars quite frequently.
I have a flip car and a real car.
The Yaris I had for two years.
Quote from: 2o6 on April 03, 2016, 08:11:15 AM
I have a flip car and a real car.
The Yaris I had for two years.
Oh, okay. Good luck with the Sonic then. I wouldn't worry about the turbo. If it's water cooled, it should be good for about 150k miles.
If you keep the stock tune the turbo should be fine. All the cars that come in with blown turbos have trifecta tunes.
Quote from: 68_427 on April 03, 2016, 10:21:38 AM
If you keep the stock tune the turbo should be fine. All the cars that come in with blown turbos have trifecta tunes.
yeah, cuz the manufacturers certainly would have tuned them for less hp just because....
Still having starting issues. I have the dealer holding onto it.
Soo, I got a CEL P0299. "Under boost" also with a slow car. This is fairly common, TBR's fiancee's actually set the same code this week on his 1.4T Cruze.
The wastegate actuator pin likes to get hung up, and usually it's open when it should be closed. I've got lumpy, little, or no boost.
Disappointed, more at the dealer than the car. The GM dealer that I bought this car off of is atrocious. They gave me the shittiest example of a loaner. And the loaner overheated in traffic!
Thank goodness for a warranty, at least.
Car's good as new.
Full engine replacement?
Quote from: MrH on April 28, 2016, 01:41:00 PM
Full engine replacement?
No, just the turbo. The waste gate sticks OPEN not closed so no damage gets done. You just don't have boost.
It's so much better now. Boost comes on much linearly - and many people probably wouldn't be able to tell if it was a turbo car or not.
Quote from: 2o6 on April 28, 2016, 02:01:52 PM
No, just the turbo. The waste gate sticks OPEN not closed so no damage gets done. You just don't have boost.
It's so much better now. Boost comes on much linearly - and many people probably wouldn't be able to tell if it was a turbo car or not.
So, how much under the hood hasn't been replaced now?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 28, 2016, 02:22:45 PM
So, how much under the hood hasn't been replaced now?
Lol, the engine itself.
The Trans was replaced, and a few other things because I complained.
Sounds almost like you're buying a brand new car one piece at a time.
That's good hustle.
:notbadobamaface:
Tru...
Basically I've been "that guy" at the dealership.
Are you getting it all fixed at the dealership you bought it from or a different one?
Same dealer, which is 2.5 hrs away. But from now on, hell nah.
Quote from: Rich on March 29, 2016, 11:56:32 AM
That's pretty badass. I'd like to drive one to see what it's like
Terrible in every way.
Really tho, why are you here?
So what's this thing dynoing at with the new turbo? Gotta be at least 500 rwhp, right?
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 30, 2016, 03:56:58 PM
So what's this thing dynoing at with the new turbo? Gotta be at least 500 rwhp, right?
No joke, there are guys on the sonic forum that have the trifecta tune turned all the way up and getting 180HP at the wheels
Then the turbo usually breaks, but still
Quote from: 2o6 on April 30, 2016, 03:41:22 PM
Really tho, why are you here?
The same reason you are, to talk about cars.
Quote from: Char on April 30, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
The same reason you are, to talk about cars.
So "terrible in every way" is a thing you say to people about their cars? Especially since most of us here aren't even sure if you've driven 1/6th of the cars that fill you with so much rage....
I mean, dyno runs and online spreadsheets are one thing, but driving a car in real life is another.
Quote from: 2o6 on April 30, 2016, 04:03:35 PM
No joke, there are guys on the sonic forum that have the trifecta tune turned all the way up and getting 180HP at the wheels
Then the turbo usually breaks, but still
Need to fit a huge intercooler and have it hang under the bumper
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 30, 2016, 04:23:47 PM
Need to fit a huge intercooler and have it hang under the bumper
There's a guy who did that, and is pushing 240+ WHP. It's kinda dope.
Dat torque steer
Quote from: 2o6 on April 30, 2016, 04:21:21 PM
So "terrible in every way" is a thing you say to people about their cars? Especially since most of us here aren't even sure if you've driven 1/6th of the cars that fill you with so much rage....
I mean, dyno runs and online spreadsheets are one thing, but driving a car in real life is another.
Hey, we all can't be speed racers and run through neighborhoods at triple digit speeds.
Pretty sure I drove the Sonic/Cruz (and I posted about it in MY car thread which you decided to read) The steering is too light, the engine is gutless and I hate hatchbacks.
The Sonic and Cruze aren't the same car, and it's "Cruze".
You've never driven one.
So....shut the fuck up.
Quote from: 2o6 on April 30, 2016, 04:27:36 PM
The Sonic and Cruze aren't the same car, and it's "Cruze".
You've never driven one.
So....shut the fuck up.
I had one as a rental, I'll see if I can dig the picture up. I wasn't impressed...but if you like it, more power to you.
Quote from: Char on April 30, 2016, 04:34:01 PM
I had one as a rental, I'll see if I can dig the picture up. I wasn't impressed...but if you like it, more power to you.
You had a Cruze. They're not the same car.
Anyways since this thing keeps getting bumped to the top with Char's fuckery
I average about 32MPG in stop and go with uber driving.
If I put in 87 octane, it drops notably down to like 28-29.
Quote from: 2o6 on April 30, 2016, 04:35:16 PM
You had a Cruze. They're not the same car.
HOLY SHIT, I can have more than one rental and another point in time.
Quote from: 2o6 on April 30, 2016, 04:36:57 PM
Anyways since this thing keeps getting bumped to the top with Char's fuckery
I average about 32MPG in stop and go with uber driving.
If I put in 87 octane, it drops notably down to like 28-29.
Because it's pulling back timing and performance suffers as a result.
Quote from: Char on April 30, 2016, 04:40:25 PM
Because it's pulling back timing and performance suffers as a result.
No shit, Sherlock.
Quote from: 2o6 on April 30, 2016, 04:41:07 PM
No shit, Sherlock.
They why did you do it, genius?
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on May 01, 2016, 10:02:27 AM
Hey man, keep it civil please.
Char hasn't added anything to the discussion and due to his attitude prior to this point, his "that's terrible" comment is inflammatory.
You guys. It's the internet. Don't take it so seriously :lol: I kind of wish Char would take some swings at me, but I think he only goes after VW and Big 3.
Quote from: MrH on May 01, 2016, 11:46:02 AM
You guys. It's the internet. Don't take it so seriously :lol: I kind of wish Char would take some swings at me, but I think he only goes after VW and Big 3.
+1 chill yo
I'll be driving a VW to work for the next few weeks until the El Camino is resurrected. MulletRacer is down, but RaceBug is still kickin! That is, until it runs over my dog, abducts my family, and turns the neighborhood into a toxic waste dump.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on May 01, 2016, 11:44:10 AM
Char hasn't added anything to the discussion and due to his attitude prior to this point, his "that's terrible" comment is inflammatory.
Char has "done time" aka banned for a week already. His attitude is better than before. I've reviewed his recent posts. Can't hold him to a different standard because of his initial previous behaviour. Also, it shouldn't be a free pass for anyone to pile on.
Having said that, this is my thinking:
- The Spin is *mostly* a free for all and I'd like to keep it that way
- People can be really offended when things go over the line. Some do get offended, others don't but both are ok.
- If anyone gets really offended, report and we´ll take a look.
- If you get offended and escalate then you're part of that problem too.
Can't make everyone happy but I hope to help retain/attract members if we keep it a bit more civil.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on May 01, 2016, 12:24:36 PM
Char has "done time" aka banned for a week already. His attitude is better than before. I've reviewed his recent posts. Can't hold him to a different standard because of his initial previous behaviour. Also, it shouldn't be a free pass for anyone to pile on.
Having said that, this is my thinking:
- The Spin is *mostly* a free for all and I'd like to keep it that way
- People can be really offended when things go over the line. Some do get offended, others don't but both are ok.
- If anyone gets really offended, report and we´ll take a look.
- If you get offended and escalate then you're part of that problem too.
Can't make everyone happy but I hope to help retain/attract members if we keep it a bit more civil.
I've been a member of several forums, but I keep coming back here because of this post.
Quote from: Rockraven on May 01, 2016, 01:11:19 PM
I've been a member of several forums, but I keep coming back here because of this post.
FUCK OFF SHITLORD
Also, goals.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e371/AndrewGS/Sonic%20II/IMG_3031_zpsijgsj0l4.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/AndrewGS/media/Sonic%20II/IMG_3031_zpsijgsj0l4.jpg.html)
Are those C4 Corvette wheels?
Quote from: 2o6 on May 01, 2016, 01:24:05 PM
Also, goals.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e371/AndrewGS/Sonic%20II/IMG_3031_zpsijgsj0l4.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/AndrewGS/media/Sonic%20II/IMG_3031_zpsijgsj0l4.jpg.html)
Like!
I hate the buzz saws. Woooof. Don't do it
They look pretty good in that picture. Would have to see it in person to know for sure.
You can probably get a set for dirt cheap though. :lol:
Lots of stance kids lovvvvve those wheels. Quite a bit of demand, not a whole lot of supply though
Huh, never would've guessed
Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 01, 2016, 06:57:35 PM
Huh, never would've guessed
Me either! I've never seen those wheels on anything but a Vette or Camaro.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1580/25606810530_3ce485a566_c.jpg)
The bolt pattern on these cars is the limiting factor, either requiring custom drilled wheels, or basically the handful of Sparco wheels for the car, but these cars seem to do OK with a spacer.
These Opel/Vauxhall Astra VXR wheels look dope on the hatch
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160319/03bd408696778e960c6e5c9a47d093a3.jpg)
They make these in a few colors, and they're like $75 a wheel, but I don't think they look very good.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160402/643cda9d33cd13f8c71a147cf6d3a88d.jpg)
I am sort of considering these, but maybe in Bronze. IDK
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3171544/Sonic/Sparco%20Wheels/Sparco%20Wheels%2002.jpg)
Quote from: 2o6 on May 02, 2016, 09:46:07 AM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160319/03bd408696778e960c6e5c9a47d093a3.jpg)
I dig these.
Quote from: SJ_GTI on May 02, 2016, 10:00:51 AM
I dig these.
It's really expensive to get them here tho. I have to buy them basically new from an Opel or Vauxhall dealer, then find a way to get them shipped to the US.
I would look for a set of wheels in that style. There should be tons available. What is the bolt pattern on these?
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 02, 2016, 10:13:44 AM
I would look for a set of wheels in that style. There should be tons available. What is the bolt pattern on these?
5x105.
It's shared with basically only the new GM small cars, not including the Spark (which is 4x100)
Those wheels are available on the Astra in Europe, so shipping and buying those will be a royal pain. Literally, Royal. They have to come from the UK.
Quote from: 2o6 on May 02, 2016, 10:07:02 AM
It's really expensive to get them here tho. I have to buy them basically new from an Opel or Vauxhall dealer, then find a way to get them shipped to the US.
I'm surprised no one makes replicas, but yeah if its that much trouble I can see why a lot of people don't bother. They do look good though! I think they fit the car's style as well.
Quote from: SJ_GTI on May 02, 2016, 10:23:22 AM
I'm surprised no one makes replicas, but yeah if its that much trouble I can see why a lot of people don't bother. They do look good though! I think they fit the car's style as well.
And to top it off, the Buick Cascada (Astra Cabrio....sort of) is 5x115, so that won't fit either.
Fuck! so is the Buick Verano.
I like the red wheels and the white wheels you posted.
VXR wheels look the best. Yeah, that's a goofy bolt pattern though. But if C4 vette wheels, fit, then surely there are aftermarket wheels for C4s that also fit.
Quote from: MrH on May 02, 2016, 10:51:09 AM
VXR wheels look the best. Yeah, that's a goofy bolt pattern though. But if C4 vette wheels, fit, then surely there are aftermarket wheels for C4s that also fit.
That guy is running custom spacers that change the bolt pattern.
Quote from: 2o6 on May 02, 2016, 10:26:08 AM
And to top it off, the Buick Cascada (Astra Cabrio....sort of) is 5x115, so that won't fit either.
Fuck! so is the Buick Verano.
Will the wheels from a Buick Regal GS not work...?
Quote from: CJ on May 03, 2016, 10:48:03 AM
Will the wheels from a Buick Regal GS not work...?
That's 5x115.
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--cHMpfNp3--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/jyrsfp7o6hlfhuxteibg.jpg)
The wheels on the new Chevy Bolt look pretty nice.
I wonder if they'll "bolt" onto your car? :lol:
Sorry, I couldn't resist! :mask:
So, I've been fighting with GM customer care
The Sonic generally is fine, but it'll occassionally crank and not start on the first try. It did this when I first bought it, and the Chevy store I bought it from is a 2.5 hour drive, and they after 5-6 visits threw pretty much everything at it but the kitchen sink, replacing most parts that touch fuel and spark. I have no invoices from this. Despite them saying they'd send it to me, they haven't.
Here's video I took
https://youtu.be/Bt1TKY4NZ8c
After replacing parts, they quoted a "TSB" that I still have no number for despite me requesting it - saying that this is normal operation.
Bullshit.
So I contacted GM customer care, and the GM customer care paid for diagnosis at another dealer close to me. That dealer said it may be the ECM or the Fuel Pump, after consulting with GM Technical Services. This problem has only happened on handful of other cars, it's rare.
Thing is, GM customer care told me today that they can't MAKE any dealer cover or repair anything. They say I should take that paperwork back to the dealer where I bought it from and then consult with them.
The ECM may be covered under warranty, but the fuel pump def isn't. I asked the old dealer several times "Are you sure it's not the ECM or fuel pump?" and they assured me that it wasn't.
WTF should I do? I feel like I shouldn't have to eat costs on a car I've owned eight weeks. A car where the dealer assured me from the start that they'd fix that issue, and spent six tries trying to remedy it.
To be fair, it does it less often then when I first got it. And it's more annoying and embarassing rather than bad for the car or unreliable.
get a lawyer /Cougs
I personally would be scared that it could be something else entirely. I had this happen on an old Taurus, replaced battery, turned out battery cable was corroded inside. Or it might be a sensor somewhere? (crank sensor on my SHO started giving me fits)
What good is a warranty if they won't fix whatever is wrong??
You might try contacting a news station and asking them if they've had complaints about x dealer.... ??
Perhaps dealer you bought from can pay dealer near you to do the fix?? Start with whatever is under warranty??
A lot of me is out of energy and just wants to put up with it.
I'd be most concerned that it's going to get worse. The fact that it's endurable now doesn't mean that it always will be, and now is your chance to get it fixed on GM's dime -- which is part of what led you to a car with a warranty in the first place.
Even if it doesn't get worse, keep in mind that when you eventually sell the car, you don't want your buyer to try and take a test drive and have it fail to start on the first try. (I had that terrible sinking feeling when I was selling my previous Focus, though it turned out the guy apparently wasn't pushing in the clutch far enough, so it was easily solved.)
You're right.
I just skimmed the warranty list; if it is the PCM/ECU, it'll likely be covered.
Quote from: 2o6 on May 16, 2016, 02:12:03 PM
You're right.
I just skimmed the warranty list; if it is the PCM/ECU, it'll likely be covered.
Unless that's been tampered with by the PO.
I gotta say, none of this is helping change my opinion of GM's small cars.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 16, 2016, 02:35:51 PM
Unless that's been tampered with by the PO.
I gotta say, none of this is helping change my opinion of GM's small cars.
Eh, I really like the car. But I would be lying if I said I didn't miss the Yaris a lil because of this reason.
I feel like this is more of an incompetent dealer rather than a car issue.
Sounds like something an Italian tune can fix.
Quote from: 2o6 on May 16, 2016, 02:55:26 PM
I feel like this is more of an incompetent dealer rather than a car issue.
I hear ya, which is why we sucked it up and just replaced a motor. :(
Some of this is also why you end up getting decent deals on your flips- people just get tired of fixing stuff and get rid of them.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on May 16, 2016, 02:59:53 PM
Sounds like something an Italian tune can fix.
Something is electrical, not an oil or fuel issue.
An Italian tune is always worth a shot :lol:
Quote from: 2o6 on May 16, 2016, 04:57:38 PM
Something is electrical, not an oil or fuel issue.
Sounds exactly like what happens with a faulty fuel regulator sometimes though; especially if there's no trouble code.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 16, 2016, 05:57:56 PM
Sounds exactly like what happens with a faulty fuel regulator sometimes though; especially if there's no trouble code.
They replaced that.
Quote from: 2o6 on May 16, 2016, 06:35:43 PM
They replaced that.
Well, there goes my usefulness.
I hope you get it fixed, but from this point on I shall be dismissing all negative comments about Fiat and 1.4T MultiAir unreliability.
Interesting Edmunds forum long thread on this issue posted a few years ago:
http://www.sonicownersforum.com/forum/1-8l-sonic-engine-discussion/1234-intermittent-starting-no-crank.html (http://www.sonicownersforum.com/forum/1-8l-sonic-engine-discussion/1234-intermittent-starting-no-crank.html)
Quote from: Rockraven on May 16, 2016, 07:20:42 PM
I hope you get it fixed, but from this point on I shall be dismissing all negative comments about Fiat and 1.4T MultiAir unreliability.
The engine is fine.
It's the rest of the car, plus what may have been a shitty tune.
Besides, a stuck open waste gate is a lot different of a failure than...burnt rings or hemmoraging oil.
The Fiats are less than mediocre in regards to build quality and reliability - my friends 1.4NA Gucci Fiat has the same miles, and also doesn't start every time. And it has a tendency to belch and bellow smoke occasionally.
Quote from: veeman on May 16, 2016, 07:49:34 PM
Interesting Edmunds forum long thread on this issue posted a few years ago:
http://www.sonicownersforum.com/forum/1-8l-sonic-engine-discussion/1234-intermittent-starting-no-crank.html (http://www.sonicownersforum.com/forum/1-8l-sonic-engine-discussion/1234-intermittent-starting-no-crank.html)
Mine is a Turbo. They're not really similar at all, either.
Quote from: 2o6 on May 16, 2016, 08:25:41 PM
Mine is a Turbo. They're not really similar at all, either.
That thread didn't seem to be about an engine issue, though.
Quote from: 2o6 on May 16, 2016, 08:25:41 PM
The engine is fine.
It's the rest of the car, plus what may have been a shitty tune.
Besides, a stuck open waste gate is a lot different of a failure than...burnt rings or hemmoraging oil.
The Fiats are less than mediocre in regards to build quality and reliability - my friends 1.4NA Gucci Fiat has the same miles, and also doesn't start every time. And it has a tendency to belch and bellow smoke occasionally.
Mine is a Turbo. They're not really similar at all, either.
Dismissed.
Quote from: ifcar on May 16, 2016, 08:35:50 PM
That thread didn't seem to be about an engine issue, though.
That's not what my car is doing. It's cranking and until the auto start times out, but something isn't getting fuel. That car didn't crank or acknowledge the key.
My car turns right over on the 2nd try with no hesitation - if it was a fuel or spark issue it would likely have some hesitation upon starting. If it was an air issue, it would likely stall immediately, or run like trash until warmed up, if it would run at all.
For some reason, the ECU isn't sending the engine fuel. I don't think it's a fuel pump because I have zero drivability issues. I think it's the ECU itself.
The biggest problem I have is with the dealer I bought it from. I still only have maybe 1 invoice for all of the times I've been there. I can't say that all of these things are replaced, but have zero paperwork.
And to top it off, they told me this was NORMAL OPERATION after citing some service bulletin that they won't tell me or can seem to find the number to.
Quote from: 2o6 on May 16, 2016, 08:46:51 PM
That's not what my car is doing. It's cranking and until the auto start times out, but something isn't getting fuel. That car didn't crank or acknowledge the key.
My car turns right over on the 2nd try with no hesitation - if it was a fuel or spark issue it would likely have some hesitation upon starting. If it was an air issue, it would likely stall immediately, or run like trash until warmed up, if it would run at all.
For some reason, the ECU isn't sending the engine fuel. I don't think it's a fuel pump because I have zero drivability issues. I think it's the ECU itself.
If you turn the key to run, let it wait for five to ten seconds, and then crank does it still do it?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 17, 2016, 05:50:13 AM
If you turn the key to run, let it wait for five to ten seconds, and then crank does it still do it?
Yes.
Believe me, I thought of most everything. I initially suspected fuel pump - and I'd cycle the key to see if it was priming as it should.
The car is priming - most of the sonic forum guys think it's the ECU, because it starts up right away as normal.
With that said, I called the Dealer where I bought the car and they seem more amicable to working with me and the other dealer.
I was nice...but I know that I can get GM customer care to step on them if need be.
Quote from: 2o6 on May 17, 2016, 07:22:41 AM
With that said, I called the Dealer where I bought the car and they seem more amicable to working with me and the other dealer.
Hope it's resolved relatively painless. These problems can get stressful, even without the financial stress.
And people say carbs are complicated. :lol:
They replaced ECM under warranty.
They said it wasn't getting enough ground, and thus wouldn't always kick on the injectors.
They're keeping it another day to make sure it doesn't do it again, but right now everything is ok.
Something similar happened to me in my last E90. If I coasted with the clutch in, the car would sometimes stall, so even at 50mph, the RPM would drop to 1000, bounce, and then zero out. Scary stuff.
Quote from: Char on May 18, 2016, 03:42:09 PM
Something similar happened to me in my last E90. If I coasted with the clutch in, the car would sometimes stall, so even at 50mph, the RPM would drop to 1000, bounce, and then zero out. Scary stuff.
Yeah that's happened to me many times. The first 2-3 times were because the ignition coil died, then last time was because the engine destroyed itself. :lol: Either way I've become very good at pulling over the side of the road.
Sweet!
Quote from: Char on May 18, 2016, 03:42:09 PM
Something similar happened to me in my last E90. If I coasted with the clutch in, the car would sometimes stall, so even at 50mph, the RPM would drop to 1000, bounce, and then zero out. Scary stuff.
Unreliable junk.
The saga continues - I woke up this rainy Saturday morning, started the car, only to be greeted with a flashing CEL, and illuminated Traction Control light.
I'm pretty sure it's electrical.
:(
Quote from: 2o6 on May 21, 2016, 09:56:01 AM
The saga continues - I woke up this rainy Saturday morning, started the car, only to be greeted with a flashing CEL, and illuminated Traction Control light.
I'm pretty sure it's electrical.
Sounds like a bad sensor on one the hubs to me.
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on May 21, 2016, 12:58:49 PM
Sounds like a bad sensor on one the hubs to me.
Hm, nah. The car was defnintely misfiring - so I don't then it was a hub or wheel speed sensor.
Time to sell and buy another Yaris. You've had more problems with this car than I've had with 5 German cars in 15 years of car ownership.
Is it too late to return it and void the deal?
Quote from: 2o6 on May 21, 2016, 01:16:45 PM
Hm, nah. The car was defnintely misfiring - so I don't then it was a hub or wheel speed sensor.
Your patience is laudable, and you're a real trooper with the crap you've put up with, but you should've walked when the issues popped up on day one. In any case what's done is done and I hope this thing gets properly fixed. Maybe the dealer will let you trade for something else on the lot?
Quote from: Raza on May 21, 2016, 10:31:22 PM
Time to sell and buy another Yaris. You've had more problems with this car than I've had with 5 German cars in 15 years of car ownership.
Its the same problem. Also, I haven't paid a cent. This is a dealer issue, not a car issue, mostly. The initial dealer threw parts at it before they made up a reason to basically get me to not come back (thus prompting a call to GM). The car has never left me stranded, stopped running, or anything etc. I also still like the car.
Quote from: Rockraven on May 22, 2016, 11:09:11 AM
Your patience is laudable, and you're a real trooper with the crap you've put up with, but you should've walked when the issues popped up on day one. In any case what's done is done and I hope this thing gets properly fixed. Maybe the dealer will let you trade for something else on the lot?
It's a dealer issue. Maybe I should have, but the dealer assured me they'd handle all of the issues before I took delivery, and the car had low miles etc. Maybe I should have gone for the other Sonic that popped up the same day I went to pick up the one I have.
It's clearly an electrical issue - there's no real point to "trading it in" when it's all been related to one issue and a dealer.
On most GM cars, the Stabilitrak is the first to illuminate when the ECM isn't getting enough power/ground. Remember, the car had an issue with the injectors not coming on (I could have sworn I said this in this thread but maybe not), intermittently. They replaced the ECM, but they could have just as easily half-assed this as well. The car isn't misfiring because of a spark issue, it was misfiring because all of the injectors didn't kick on - which seems odd and related to a power/ground issue rather than a new issue - this is the same issue. These aren't new issues that keep popping up because of the car, this is a dealer(s) who don't know how to diagnose things. And to be fair, new cars are complicated and sometimes shit happens.
This has destroyed my faith in any GM dealer far more than the car.
Seems like the dealer(s) have so far made every attempt to make things right.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 22, 2016, 05:41:51 PM
Seems like the dealer(s) have so far made every attempt to make things right.
Like
- Not Giving me invoices
- Quoting a made-up service bulletin telling me this is normal operation, prompting me to call GM to get a 2nd opinion?
The second dealer has actually taken steps to diagnose and solve my problem - I'm not upset with them.
The First dealer is the one who told me that not starting was normal operation, didn't give me any invoices after several requests (only gave me some after I called GM), and I still don't have a TSB number for this mysterous "normal operation" for the car not always starting on the first try. They threw parts at it, but didn't really attempt to diagnose anything, tbh. Maybe they did. I don't know. The fact they just told me BS to get me out of the service department is BS.
Ok, but the second dealer has acted OK then; that should t destroy your faith in all dealers- just remind you there are shitty ones out there.
Got rid of the CF hood. Guy paid me $100 + his black hood
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/Vannette_12/2C5BA62F-7D88-4C86-860B-EF25771B6E51.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/Vannette_12/media/2C5BA62F-7D88-4C86-860B-EF25771B6E51.jpg.html)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/Vannette_12/20216D43-4DA6-4E9F-84C8-883C4ABC940D.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/Vannette_12/media/20216D43-4DA6-4E9F-84C8-883C4ABC940D.jpg.html)
Lol nice
Quote from: 2o6 on May 26, 2016, 08:29:13 PM
Got rid of the CF hood. Guy paid me $100 + his black hood
Good move. That carbon shit looked like ass.
A downgrade that's an upgrade. Nice work, Kevin.
Quote from: 2o6 on May 26, 2016, 08:29:13 PM
Got rid of the CF hood. Guy paid me $100 + his black hood
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/Vannette_12/2C5BA62F-7D88-4C86-860B-EF25771B6E51.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/Vannette_12/media/2C5BA62F-7D88-4C86-860B-EF25771B6E51.jpg.html)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/Vannette_12/20216D43-4DA6-4E9F-84C8-883C4ABC940D.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/Vannette_12/media/20216D43-4DA6-4E9F-84C8-883C4ABC940D.jpg.html)
Like a boss. $100 plus you raised the value another $500. :lol:
Where is the CF hood?
...he got rid of it :confused:
To be fair, it was kind of hard to tell
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/Vannette_12/2C5BA62F-7D88-4C86-860B-EF25771B6E51.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/Vannette_12/media/2C5BA62F-7D88-4C86-860B-EF25771B6E51.jpg.html)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/Vannette_12/DFD7471A-291F-41C3-8A22-DC6229BFF45C.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/Vannette_12/media/DFD7471A-291F-41C3-8A22-DC6229BFF45C.jpg.html)
On retrospect I actually like the CF hood better. :lol:
I would have redone the rest of the car to match the CF hood.
Quote from: SJ_GTI on May 31, 2016, 09:51:46 AM
On retrospect I actually like the CF hood better. :lol:
God no. it barely stood out from the black paint.
How did the transaction happen? Did a random dude with a black Sonic just ask you for a trade out on the street or did you propose a trade on a Sonic forum with some dude who owned a Black sonic who happened to live near you? Or something else?
Quote from: 2o6 on May 31, 2016, 09:15:33 AM
To be fair, it was kind of hard to tell
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/Vannette_12/2C5BA62F-7D88-4C86-860B-EF25771B6E51.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/Vannette_12/media/2C5BA62F-7D88-4C86-860B-EF25771B6E51.jpg.html)
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Hard to tell? The colour mis-match plus the huge gap between the hood and fender made it look like poorly repaired accident damage.
It looks about eighty bazillion times better now!
Quote from: veeman on May 31, 2016, 12:56:29 PM
How did the transaction happen? Did a random dude with a black Sonic just ask you for a trade out on the street or did you propose a trade on a Sonic forum with some dude who owned a Black sonic who happened to live near you? Or something else?
:popcorn:
I put a "sale or trade" ad on the Chevy Sonic forum, then I met the guy halfway from his house.
It was actually a guy with an all carbon fiber Sonic, but a black steel hood.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 01, 2016, 09:56:47 AM
It was actually a guy with an all carbon fiber Sonic, but a black steel hood.
:nyd:
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 01, 2016, 09:56:47 AM
It was actually a guy with an all carbon fiber Sonic, but a black steel hood.
:clap:
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 01, 2016, 09:56:47 AM
It was actually a guy with an all carbon fiber Sonic, but a black steel hood.
:golfclap:
10K mile check in
I drive out of Lyft and Uber (primarily lyft) plus the fact that flipping cars takes me over the state, and I like driving this thing and I've driven it all over the midwest, and even Canada.
- Still does the random crank, no start. Super intermittently, so I'm more annoyed than angry
- I just replaced the front brakes. AC Delco rotors and some mid-grade ceramic pads to get rid of the vibration from shitty rotors and pads that were done.
- I replaced the tires with some Kumho Ecsta 4X - only $265 after rebate (before shipping). This is a really nice budget tire, I reccomend it. It's pretty grippy, fairly quiet, and does well in the rain.
- My Uber and Lyft passengers can't figure out that the car is NOT two door.
- My Lyft passengers remark that the car is really nice inside and 'suprisingly spacious'. They love the leather
- at least two people have remarked on how nice the exaust sounds
- a good 75% don't realize its a manual until they look down and exclaim ' that's a stick? WOW, you're really good at it! Most manual drivers ive ridden with make me nauscous with all the bucking and jerking'
- I really like driving this car, a lot.
- My average MPG is around 30MPG. Hitting that 40MPG requires slowing down to 65MPH. However, if I keep it at 70MPH, it'll do a still respectable 38MPG
I like Sonics. If I ever get a "courtesy car" for detailing, a CPO Sonic would definitely be on my list.
Quote from: 2o6 on July 25, 2016, 08:38:39 AM
10K mile check in
I've never liked Chevys but your review makes me consider this car.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160725/fb92d1ec46dd621f6755bdb497ffd969.jpg)
Matt Farah posted this on Facebook. Apparently his Uber driver got tired of people being confused on how to open her Honda HRV :lol:. You could do the same to your car.
Quote from: MrH on July 25, 2016, 12:24:45 PM
Matt Farah posted this on Facebook. Apparently his Uber driver got tired of people being confused on how to open her Honda HRV :lol:. You could do the same to your car.
LOL totally should.
That also benefits from being silver instead of black, so you can see the door outline
Quote from: 2o6 on July 25, 2016, 08:38:39 AM
- a good 75% don't realize its a manual until they look down and exclaim ' that's a stick? WOW, you're really good at it! Most manual drivers ive ridden with make me nauscous with all the bucking and jerking'
Sometimes I wonder if manual transmission cars are somewhat more common among rideshare drivers than normal. I had a guy show up in a stickshift CTS and another guy show up in a stickshift Mazda 5, so those have got to count for something
End of summer check in
I've put on about 15K miles, partially Lyft has elevated my driving, but because this car is so much more drastically comfortable than the Yaris, I drive more and I'm usually the first to volunteer and show off my car on longer road trips.
I'm averaging a solid 31MPG (trip MPG hasn't changed from 31.4MPG for like three weeks now). I don't have the lightest foot, and the boost is addicting. The transmission is geared to you can say out of boost if you need to (I have three overdrive gears), but there is a penalty if you drive with your foot in it. 30MPG is about what the Yaris was getting, but I drove the Yaris slower. However, I also put 93+ octane in the Sonic, because I feel more comfortable with that, and the car is also more responsive with 93 octane. The car can run on 87 perfectly fine, but there is a notable drop in power and responsiveness.
- The car still randomly does the crank no start, but it's once in a blue moon so I've just learned to live with it.
- Man, the traction control is really invasive. If you even THINK about driving off with wheelspin at any point in time, Stabilitrak will crush all hopes and dreams
- This car is probably the most solid driving car in it's class. My friends like it.
- (Partially about my contempt for the iPhone 7), but my car has an old-style interface for the radio, and it doesn't work well with iPhones. If you try and do too many things with the iPhone or the steering wheel controls, the radio actually freezes and you have to disconnect the phone. Also the glovebox USB port doesn't really charge all that well. Some modern phones will still discharge while plugged in, instead of charge.
- The call bluetooth is great
- The streaming audio bluetooth is hot garbage, but that might be an iPhone thing?
- I don't have a spare tire. I don't know if the previous seller had it, or whether or not it was omitted on this trim
Either way, I'm still very happy with my purchase. I might tint the windows.
I had a 2014 Cruze rental a couple years ago and the Bluetooth off my android phone was great, or maybe it's slightly different from car to car?
Quote from: 68_427 on September 08, 2016, 03:45:50 PM
I had a 2014 Cruze rental a couple years ago and the Bluetooth off my android phone was great, or maybe it's slightly different from car to car?
I havent tried other phones, but I think it's an iPhone thing.
Glad the car is working out well. If you're putting 93 octane in, you're paying the equivalent of a car getting 26 mpg using 87 octane gas.
Quote from: 2o6 on September 08, 2016, 03:13:37 PM
- I don't have a spare tire. I don't know if the previous seller had it, or whether or not it was omitted on this trim
Maybe you can order it from Lithuania.
Quote from: ifcar on September 08, 2016, 07:53:54 PM
Maybe you can order it from Lithuania.
LOL.
A junkyard probably has one
Tires rotated, 2nd oil change.
I have 63K miles on the car currently, which means I've driven about 17K miles - I usually only drive around 300 miles a week, but lyft driving adds maybe another 100-150 a week (I don't do it as much)
I've also driven this car a lot of places - like Canada. It's an easy car to road trip. I like driving it a lot.
t00t t00t needs a straight pipe blow off valve
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 23, 2016, 11:33:13 AM
t00t t00t needs a straight pipe blow off valve
Shocks/Springs and wheels first
Quote from: 2o6 on November 23, 2016, 12:19:26 PM
Shocks/Springs and wheels first
Is the suspension worn out or.do you want STANCE?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 23, 2016, 12:28:52 PM
Is the suspension worn out or.do you want STANCE?
Idk man, maybe a little bit more firmness and less roll. Might buy the RS sprigs and shocks
Quote from: 2o6 on November 23, 2016, 01:32:01 PM
Idk man, maybe a little bit more firmness and less roll. Might buy the RS sprigs and shocks
Roll sux. Understeer sux. Get a big rear sway bar.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 24, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
Roll sux. Understeer sux. Get a big rear sway bar.
That's what I'm thinking. The car is already pretty competent and comfortable, unlike the Yaris I had.
Quote from: 2o6 on November 25, 2016, 08:55:16 AM
That's what I'm thinking. The car is already pretty competent and comfortable, unlike the Yaris I had.
Versa S is near the Yaris level of roly poly understeery. It needs full suspension work to live up to the S in its name. Coilovers will not be super comfy on the street, but I don't carry passengers except dog. You do Uber pr whatever, so I agree that you probably want to start with the RS suspension ... and then see about an aftermarket rear sway bar. Maybe test drive an RS to see the difference.
BC Racing will custom make coilovers for you car, and with whatever spring rates you want. You can go with something reasonably soft for the the street, but still have all that adjustability. I am probably going with BC for Versa S, as soon as I dig $995 out of my ass.
Rags and I have BC. Totally fine for us, but kevin does to ride sharing so softer sprangs be good.
Got mine for under $900. Just look for whatever race shop is having whatever holiday sale.
Quote from: 68_427 on November 26, 2016, 06:16:40 PM
Rags and I have BC. Totally fine for us, but kevin does to ride sharing so softer sprangs be good.
Got mine for under $900. Just look for whatever race shop is having whatever holiday sale.
You have to pay full price for for custom spring rates, though.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 26, 2016, 06:18:10 PM
You have to pay full price for for custom spring rates, though.
I didn't. Ordered mine from some shop ion Tampa. They also threw in muteki lug nuts and rear damping adjustment extensions.
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
:lol: or say, "check out these lateral Gs!"
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 27, 2016, 08:02:46 AM
:lol: or say, "check out these lateral Gs!"
That's basically what I do. Jerk the wheel left-right and their eyes get real wide and then they don't ask again lol
Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:41:13 AM
I didn't. Ordered mine from some shop ion Tampa. They also threw in muteki lug nuts and rear damping adjustment extensions.
What are extensions .. just some knobs?
Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
Literally LOLing
Fortune Autos will be going on my next car, whatever it is.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 27, 2016, 08:27:01 AM
What are extensions .. just some knobs?
Knobs on like 12" cable
Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
:lol: :clap:
Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 10:18:22 AM
Knobs on like 12" cable
I need cables that go to driver seat tho.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 27, 2016, 09:26:15 AM
Literally LOLing
Fortune Autos will be going on my next car, whatever it is.
Never heard of them, but they are good? I see that have a set for Verasa S.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 27, 2016, 11:09:44 AM
Never heard of them, but they are good? I see that have a set for Verasa S.
They're another 3-500 over BC and for your application I'd get the BC and spend the cash on wheels and tires
Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 11:41:49 AM
They're another 3-500 over BC and for your application I'd get the BC and spend the cash on wheels and tires
Money is not object. Need best suspension for reliable street and fast autocross.
Well what color do you like more
Fortune Auto claims ISO certification. Win. Don't know about BC.
I'm out of the loop about this Fortune Auto reference.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 27, 2016, 02:15:10 PM
Fortune Auto claims ISO certification. Win. Don't know about BC.
BC is black tho
Quote from: Laconian on November 27, 2016, 02:37:00 PM
I'm out of the loop about this Fortune Auto reference.
It's what sporty sees when he finishes
Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Raza on November 27, 2016, 04:05:38 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That was really good. The kind of stuff I log in for :lol:
:huh:???
Quote from: Laconian on November 27, 2016, 08:57:36 PM
:huh:???
Apparently, Fortune Auto gives you shock dyno prints with your order of coilovers. ... ?
Yes
Shock dynos are pretty legit. But the coilovers are still painfully stiff
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 28, 2016, 04:55:02 PM
Yes
Shock dynos are pretty legit. But the coilovers are still painfully stiff
But you can choose spring rates, and the rebound is fully adjustable.
It's been about a year since I bought the Sonic.
- I've put on 22,000 miles. Part of that is Lyft driving, but a lot of that is me driving this car everwhere because it's comfortable. I've done about 3-4 roadtrips over 1000 miles, and I'm probably gonna do a few more.
- Fuel economy is a solid 31MPG mixed. If I keep it under 70, I can do 40 ish, but 70 is too slow and the car is geared very tall so 65MPH in 6th; any sort of incline and the car will need to downshift
- I had a CEL come on for a gas cap. You'd think I'd be smart enough to realize it's a gas cap. :facepalm: I ran out and panicked and bought a new gas cap, without checking if I had even put the current one on tight.
- Couple bruises and bumps from being parked on the street when I visited DC.
Other than that, It's been generally trouble free. I think I'm going to tint the windows and maybe put in an amp. The stock system seems kind of weak on power.
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I gotta say, they look great in higher specced trims like yours. Glad it's treating you well.
Awesome!
Whoops
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To make a long story short, I accidentally rear ended someone who stopped at a right-turn green arrow. It was a stupid accident, and I was at fault. (No police report, CPD told us to file online, so I wasn't cited or anything).
Oh well, that's what insurance is for.
:(
This was an expensive ass hit. Repair estimate is now $4200.
(They're also replacing the intercooler)
Cars today are so damn expensive to repair. Someone told me the headlight modules on their new GMC pickup go for $2,600 a set. What the fuck.
yeah, most of this is cosmetic. A lot of parts were undamaged - the bumper support has to be true'd up a lil, and it looks like the hit bent the intercooler a little. They're replacing both parts.
Whatever, I plan on keeping this car a long time.
Two things,
I got it back. All is good.
Also, I bought this Canon 50mm f1.8 lens (it's really cheap; like $125)
It's a lil underexposed but my baby look sexy
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Nice pics. I kind of like the car, too
95K check in
My Kumho Ecsta's wore out kind of quickly. That's a common complaint on this tire. They performed great, especially I only paid like $65 a tire. I I also got a flat (damn curb) so I replaced the bald ones up front with a decent set of Hankook tires (I can't remember the model name). The rear ones are still at 6/32's so I plan on driving them until summer time.
The driver's seat heater stopped working.
The stabilizer links broke (I drive like an ass) so I replaced those. ($12 for parts). Also the car was losing coolant; turns out the thermostat housing has a penchant for cracking for zero reason. The car would piss out coolant from the upper coolant hose. $20 part. $75 labor for both.
Other than that, it's still about the same as when I bought it. Some asshole dented the front pass side fender, but otherwise It's fine.
Looking good.
Looking good. :ohyeah:
Quote from: 2o6 on March 05, 2018, 03:13:33 PM
My Kumho Ecsta's wore out kind of quickly. That's a common complaint on this tire. They performed great, especially I only paid like $65 a tire. I I also got a flat (damn curb) so I replaced the bald ones up front with a decent set of Hankook tires (I can't remember the model name). The rear ones are still at 6/32's so I plan on driving them until summer time.
FWIW my rule of thumb was to put newer tires on the back (if I wasn't replacing them all). Its generally less disastrous if you lose grip in the front vs the back.
Quote from: SJ_GTI on March 06, 2018, 06:17:14 AM
Looking good. :ohyeah:
FWIW my rule of thumb was to put newer tires on the back (if I wasn't replacing them all). Its generally less disastrous if you lose grip in the front vs the back.
I agree with this. I had crap tires on the back of my old Saturn and it did a nice 360 in the snow one time. Not fun.
I've been driving it like this for most of winter. A little squirrley, but in the dry and wet it's fine.
When I first put them back there they were more like 8/32nds so....
I'm at 102K miles now.
- Outer tie rods got replaced.
- Thermostat housing cracked (common on this car) and pissed coolant out everywhere.
About $200 for parts and Labor.
Otherwise, everything is as it should be, knock on wood.
Should have knocked on wood. CEL Came on - P2261 ;
Turbo/Super Charger Bypass Valve
The Part is only $23 for the cheap AC Delco part, which is plastic.
BUT. BNR sells an atmospheric one for $150 that's metal, and sounds DOPE.
https://youtu.be/B2SEJgKMzJg
1.4fast1.4furious
100k mile check in
I had a fairly serious issue last week with a short in the wiring to the knock sensor; and thus the car would retard the hell out of timing and the car would run like dogshit. Luckily, GM sells a splice kit to fix it. It was pretty awful tho; the car wouldn't maintain 70MPH in 6th.
Things I've replaced since the last check in
- six tires (two of them were due to OH potholes)
- coolant tank reservoir (common on this model to spring a leak)
- boost pressure sensor
- MAP sensor
- alternator
- belt tensioner and accessory belt
- tie rods (outer)
- suspension endlinks
- battery (mine was the original one to the car)
- PCV valve; the way this car is done, it's integrated into both the intake manifold and valve cover. The one in the intake manifold blew out, but I also decided to replace the valve cover too just to be safe.
- various alignments, oil changes, etc.
All of these parts are both cheap and accessible, including the intake manifold.
Never left me stranded. Still reliably gets 31MPG mixed.
Continental tires don't last long, though.
This post reads like one of Wimmer's
"Just replaced 6 ignition coils in the last 5k miles. Runs great. Great car, super reliable" :lol:
If it doesn't ride on a tow truck, it is super reliable.
The tires, the suspension work and the battery is acceptable; assuming normal midwest pothole damage which no car comes through unscathed.
The other stuff is annoying; not quite in the "piece of shit" category yet, but definitely not signs of creamy goodness.
But didn't you replace the transmission like the day you got this?
I'm like 95% sure that Kevin meant "100k miles since the last check-in," which really means 200k+ miles on the car. I don't know normal expected life for all those things, but that doesn't sound too bad to get from 100k to 200k.
Quote from: MrH on May 13, 2019, 02:35:32 PM
This post reads like one of Wimmer's
"Just replaced 6 ignition coils in the last 5k miles. Runs great. Great car, super reliable" :lol:
Yeah, but Wimmer has 77k miles on his car. And you hold onto cars for what...six weeks?
I have 147k miles on my car, and I drive like 900+ miles a week.
I just realized that the initial post makes it sound like I have a 100k check in.
No, I've put 100k miles on the car since I bought it.
Secondly, all of these sensors are really accessible. The coolant reservoir cost $25 and is held on with two bolts. The Map and boost sensors are held on with one Torx T15 screw. The accessory belt is literally factory. The alternator actually still worked, just made noise, and once again the time it took for me to remove the alternator, intake, and replace both and the belt tensioner (it was also making noise) took literally 90 minutes.
I also did spark plugs...since well, I don't think I've ever changed them since I've owned the car.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 13, 2019, 03:14:24 PM
But didn't you replace the transmission like the day you got this?
Dealer did, for a shitty synchro after I complained.
100k miles later, it's fine. No scratches or grinds. Same clutch, even. Holds and engages all gears just fine.
If it makes you feel any better, my first Yaris had a slow synchro on 2nd; and my friends xB didn't have 5th until he decided to actually replace the trans at 228k.
Is it as reliable as say, an equivalent Honda or Toyota? Probably not. But everything so far has been easily serviceable, parts are really cheap, and once again...I've put 100k on the car since I've bought it. I'm still pleased with it. It drives well and looks good.
Not to say that Honda's and Toyota's don't have issues though - i'd Imagine most any car with close to 150k miles would start showing wear and other weird issues, too. All the important parts work; shifts good, holds all fluids. Doesn't use any oil or coolant. No weird sounds or suspension noises.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on May 13, 2019, 03:33:40 PM
I'm like 95% sure that Kevin meant "100k miles since the last check-in," which really means 200k+ miles on the car. I don't know normal expected life for all those things, but that doesn't sound too bad to get from 100k to 200k.
No, 100k since I bought it.
(147k miles)
Quote from: BimmerM3 on May 13, 2019, 03:33:40 PM
I'm like 95% sure that Kevin meant "100k miles since the last check-in," which really means 200k+ miles on the car. I don't know normal expected life for all those things, but that doesn't sound too bad to get from 100k to 200k.
Maybe, and that would change things.
But he bought the car 3 years ago with 46,000 miles on it.
Quote from: 2o6 on May 13, 2019, 03:39:09 PM
No, 100k since I bought it.
(147k miles)
Ahh. Well, its kind of a bit better then.
Also...the problem with a lot of european cars, is that the equivalent parts would be more expensive, and far more of a pain in the ass to fix.
Quote from: 2o6 on May 13, 2019, 03:39:09 PM
No, 100k since I bought it.
(147k miles)
Ah, ok. I'll count it as half-right for me. :lol:
Quote from: BimmerM3 on May 13, 2019, 03:43:59 PM
Ah, ok. I'll count it as half-right for me. :lol:
I'll count you as 53% wrong.
Now, if I were replacing all this shit at say...75k miles, yeah you'd have a point.
But 150k and all this shit, and a great deal of it was preventative maintenance? Sounds pretty good tbh. The integrated PCV/Intake is a dumb design, but the intake is only held on with six torx T30 screws, and it's pretty easy to take off. Tie rods and endlinks are basically wear items.
I think all of that shit combined was about $650 ish for the entire year, including labor for the things I paid to have done. I don't like doing suspension and front end work, so I paid my mechanic to do the tie rods and end links. (Not counting the tire replacements)
Yet and still, I knew what I was getting into when I bought the car. I'm not really pouring money into it every other week. The battery died last August, the tie rods and endlinks I did in November, and the alternator, intake, knock sensor wiring, spark plugs I did two days ago.
The coolant reservoir I'm not even going to count; it took me literally five minutes to change.
"Pretty reliable and easy to fix" is better than "crazy reliable but a bitch to fix", IMO.
yeah that's really pretty good for a car that's being driven (I assume hard) in the city.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 13, 2019, 04:00:49 PM
"Pretty reliable and easy to fix" is better than "crazy reliable but a bitch to fix", IMO.
Literally every car has problems. I think a good gauge of reliability is how often, easy, and cheap those problems are to fix = reliability.
Check-in.
The car has 192K miles on it now.
I just replaced all four shocks, lower control arms, outer and inner tie rods, and did a brake job as well. The rear drums and shoes will also need attention soon. I checked about six months ago, and they were nearing the end of their lifespan.
Drums on FWD cars are great. Out of the cars I've owned, I think I've replaced the drums and shoes exactly one car; the Focus. And it had 150K miles.
It feels like a basically new car now, and hopefully it'll last me another 50K miles. It'll nice to be able to drive for awhile with no car payment. I like this car a lot.
Nice. My Punto have rear drums too, actually
Quote from: 2o6 on July 06, 2020, 08:35:32 PM
It'll nice to be able to drive for awhile with no car payment. I like this car a lot.
Awesome!! Are you saving for that dream car? :lol: