I figure this would be a great little bike if I'm just riding around the city since it's so cheap and I'm figuring insurance should be pretty cheap since it's only a 125.
Fuck no. A used EX250 is better in every way.
No, I just took the headlight.
I say I do not understand about it.
Something between a moped and a pit bike; but better looking. I like them; but I can't say that Sean is wrong. You can get a used 250 anything and have a more usable bike.
This does look fun though:
http://youtu.be/6SVKlG9Iiak (http://youtu.be/6SVKlG9Iiak)
I want one for my daughter...
I'm kind of thinking about getting one in the spring. Just trying to decide how much I'd want to go on the interstate with a bike, since a Grom can't. For around town or mountain roads, a Grom seems like a blast. Lots of mods available for them too. I think you can bore them out to get 170cc, plus intake and exhaust.
do it
I feel like a CBR300 will be just as fun, while also not being a complete death trap on the highway. I am thinking the novelty would get old fast.
Groms aren't legal for highway use, much like many scooters.
Quote from: MX793 on November 26, 2015, 11:57:57 AM
Groms aren't legal for highway use, much like many scooters.
Here, some signs on interstates specify no cycles under 5 HP.
Quote from: MX793 on November 26, 2015, 11:57:57 AM
Groms aren't legal for highway use, much like many scooters.
Depends on the state.
I kind of like the toy aspect of a Grom.
There's 3 different bikes I'd like (and could afford right now):
- Grom
- CBR500R
- some sort of cafe racer, probably a Honda since those are cheap and plentiful
Grom could be brand new, CBR500R would be a couple years old, and a cafe racer would be from the 80s. Cafe racer looks the coolest, but would require most maintenance and tinkering. CBR500R would be the most useful, but heavier and could get me into more trouble. Grom would be a fun ride around town and fairly maintenance-free.
You'd probably get into more trouble on a cafe racer than a CBR500, depending on what you get. Honda detuned the motor to meet Euro tiered licensing. I don't think they even make 50 horse. My brother's 70s era 750 is faster than a new 500 Honda.
Old bikes handle like ass too
Getting a CBR500 and then waiting until I have more $$ to get a new Triumph or Ducati cafe racer might be the best option.
Sure. I got a used V-Strom 650 for the price of a new Grom. It was a good deal. Get the bike that best suits the riding you will do. Grom is for city, eh.
http://www.yuminashi.com/-msx125-cylinder-kits/ (http://www.yuminashi.com/-msx125-cylinder-kits/)
164cc big bore kit. Also looks like it increases the redline, so you can get up to 80 mph without even changing the sprocket.
Grom, Jesus. :facepalm: Craigslist an older Sportster that some old fart can't ride anymore, take all the old fart shit off of it and make it cool. Simple, satisfying and cheap and you will be cool. I guarantee it!
Chicks will be diggin' it, cause bad boys win the prize. :muffin:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/97/50/1d/97501dffd7eecd1ef44bc79053aa29f8.jpg)
Or get a used Grom
(https://i.imgur.com/RNVP2AJ.jpg)
Some people have stuck turbos on these, along with the big bore kit. POWAAAAARRRRRR.
This is pretty cool. Wonder how many tracks do minibike races
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evk_IE8cOV4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evk_IE8cOV4)
Kawasaki Grom!
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Q898GcKY--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/u8xlvkggbmnf3ncgrzfx.jpg)
http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/kawasakis-z125-pro-grom-fighter-is-coming-to-the-u-s-f-1762759273 (http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/kawasakis-z125-pro-grom-fighter-is-coming-to-the-u-s-f-1762759273)
Saw these at the Kawi tent today in Daytona. At first glance, I thought they were Groms and I was thinking "why are there Groms under the Kawi tent?". Then I got closer and saw they were green.
Cool
Oh, but Grom still wins
http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/putting-the-biggest-sportbike-motor-in-the-smallest-mot-1758277492 (http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/putting-the-biggest-sportbike-motor-in-the-smallest-mot-1758277492)
except I guess it caught fire, so Grom loses.
I find it odd that a ton of people are complaining about Grom prices - the dealer in Cincinnati has like 5 Groms at MSRP.
After spending most of my MSF course on a Grom, I think if I had the money sitting around and wanted a little bike to just run errands on, I'd get a Grom fo sho. I don't think it has even enough power to be safe on major city streets (where flow of traffic is 40-50 mph), but say in traffic downtown or something I think it'd be a terrific little toy.
Thats an expensive toy
I'd rather just get a bicycle for like 1/5th the cost
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 04, 2016, 12:41:23 PM
Thats an expensive toy
I'd rather just get a bicycle for like 1/5th the cost
But then you have to pedal.
And Groms are way faster than bikes, even if they're also way slower than larger motorcycles.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 04, 2016, 12:41:23 PM
Thats an expensive toy
I'd rather just get a bicycle for like 1/5th the cost
Bikes in general are expensive toys
But yes a Grom is expensive considering it's not a very versatile toy
I'd rather just walk than ride a bicycle if I can't afford a Grom :lol: :huh:
Grom is expensive for what you get. For $4k I'd rather get a used DR650 or KLR650, and have a better street bike and something that can go offroad.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on April 04, 2016, 01:15:11 PM
Grom is expensive for what you get. For $4k I'd rather get a used DR650 or KLR650, and have a better street bike and something that can go offroad.
Hardly a comparable bike to a Grom, I'd never touch a bike that high for running errands in the city in traffic. I ain't 6'4
Grom is only 3K but still.... thats a lot of money for a fucking Grom
Used vs new comparison usually isnt fair but I got my bike with 250 miles on it for 3K. 3K gets you a boatload of motorcycle
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 04, 2016, 01:21:16 PM
Grom is only 3K but still.... thats a lot of money for a fucking Grom
Used vs new comparison usually isnt fair but I got my bike with 250 miles on it for 3K. 3K gets you a boatload of motorcycle
Grom is closer to $4K OTD.
I agree used vs new isn't a good comparison, but in this case you're paying a crap ton for a toy.
Quote from: SVT_Power on April 04, 2016, 01:17:57 PM
Hardly a comparable bike to a Grom, I'd never touch a bike that high for running errands in the city in traffic. I ain't 6'4
Sucks to be short. :huh:
Point is, that much money buys you a lot more bike. Or I'd save like $2k and buy a CSC bike.
Where are you finding $4k DRs?
Only dual sports under $4k I ever see are 200s. 450s and 650s are $5-6k. :rage:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 04, 2016, 01:26:38 PM
Where are you finding $4k DRs?
Only dual sports under $4k I ever see are 200s. 450s and 650s are $5-6k. :rage:
Used.
lolwtf Panigale Grom
http://www.engineswapdepot.com/?p=9071 (http://www.engineswapdepot.com/?p=9071)
Groms are weird. Sat on one at the powersports shop. Pricey for 125cc. I'd almost rather have a 125cc moped that has a more comfortable riding position and storage containers. :lol:
I watching a youtube video of a top speed run on a Grom. Holy shit it's slow. My 250 can outrun traffic at all legal speeds. The poor Grom is laboring just to get up to 60 mph. Even on a 55 mph country road, the Grom wouldn't really be enough. 70+ mph interstates: fugetaboutit.
Groms, like some/many scooters, are actually prohibited from being used on interstates because they can't do 65 mph. Top speed is somewhere between 50 and 55 mph.
Quote from: MX793 on June 10, 2016, 05:41:42 PM
Groms, like some/many scooters, are actually prohibited from being used on interstates because they can't do 65 mph. Top speed is somewhere between 50 and 55 mph.
They also need to be 150cc and up to legally use the highway.
Which brings up the question, if you throw a 181cc big bore kit on there, does that make it legal? :lol:
Michigan says 125cc is minimum for the expressway, but the law also says 55 mph is the minimum speed. The Grom can get over 60, but I'm not sure it could hold it.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 10, 2016, 05:45:22 PM
They also need to be 150cc and up to legally use the highway.
Which brings up the question, if you throw a 181cc big bore kit on there, does that make it legal? :lol:
Probably not, since the authority issuing the registration/tags needs to recognize it and I don't know of any DMVs that keep tabs on vehicle modifications.
Quote from: MX793 on June 10, 2016, 05:55:44 PM
Probably not, since the authority issuing the registration/tags needs to recognize it and I don't know of any DMVs that keep tabs on vehicle modifications.
But does that really matter? The license plate is the same, right? If you get pulled over, just be nice and tell the cop it's been modded to 181cc.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 10, 2016, 06:01:40 PM
But does that really matter? The license plate is the same, right? If you get pulled over, just be nice and tell the cop it's been modded to 181cc.
If you can keep up with traffic and have a valid motorcycle plate, nobody will give a damn.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 10, 2016, 06:01:40 PM
But does that really matter? The license plate is the same, right? If you get pulled over, just be nice and tell the cop it's been modded to 181cc.
I'm not sure if the plates are necessarily the same. Never paid attention to any of the scooters I've seen to notice if either the plates or the registration stickers are different from bikes. Might vary by state. Registration fees on scooters (or sub 150cc machines) may be lower, too, which leads me to think there's some kind of designation that could be identified on the plate. Either way, cop isn't going to care if you put a big-bore kit in it, if it's registered as a scooter and you're riding it on the interstate and he/she isn't feeling generous, you'll be getting a ticket.
Grom is 4speed? Bleh, must be like riding a moped with gears.
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 10, 2016, 06:31:36 PM
Grom is 4speed? Bleh, must be like riding a moped with gears.
And motorcycles will actually wave at you
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 10, 2016, 06:31:36 PM
Grom is 4speed? Bleh, must be like riding a moped with gears.
That's essentially what it is.
Honda Shadow 600s had 4 speed gearboxes.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 10, 2016, 06:36:07 PM
And motorcycles will actually wave at you
When I used to moped alllll the time, I eventually made it a point to wave or give a beep-beep to dudes on Harleys and stuff. People on Harleys just never look like they're having any fun. They're always straight-faced, trying to look badass. :lol:
As far as the Grom is concerned, though...realistically it's probably a blast to ride. Kinda like a moped, you can push it to the limit virtually all the time and not get into trouble.
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 11, 2016, 01:33:19 AM
When I used to moped alllll the time, I eventually made it a point to wave or give a beep-beep to dudes on Harleys and stuff. People on Harleys just never look like they're having any fun. They're always straight-faced, trying to look badass. :lol:
The condition you're describing is called Cruiser Face, and it's no laughing matter.
Quote from: MX793 on June 11, 2016, 05:02:38 AM
The condition you're describing is called Cruiser Face, and it's no laughing matter.
I absolutely get it, especially for the highway, but shiiiiiit, lighten up around town. :mask:
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 11, 2016, 01:41:53 AM
As far as the Grom is concerned, though...realistically it's probably a blast to ride. Kinda like a moped, you can push it to the limit virtually all the time and not get into trouble.
Well, being able to reach and maintain the speed limit is important for fun, comfort and safety. I like that I can go WOT on the Ninja without popping a wheelie, but the Grom takes it too far.
Quote from: MX793 on June 11, 2016, 05:02:38 AM
The condition you're describing is called Cruiser Face, and it's no laughing matter.
They're angry about getting bugs in their face, because they won't allow themselves to wear a proper helmet.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on June 11, 2016, 08:20:49 AM
They're angry about getting bugs in their face, because they won't allow themselves to wear a proper helmet.
I don't know how people can ride without a full face helmet. Some rides end with my visor having 100 bugs on it, some of which are very obvious when they hit. I don't want all that hitting me straight in the face, no thank you.
I still want a Grom. It'd fit in the El Camino easier and it will do stoppies.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 14, 2016, 08:01:26 PM
I still want a Grom. It'd fit in the El Camino easier and it will do stoppies.
The Kawa version will be cheaper, no?
Yeah it's $2999 instead of $3199. Aftermarket support probably won't be as big for a couple years though.
Isn't it the exact same engine?
Quote from: 68_427 on July 25, 2016, 01:26:18 AM
Isn't it the exact same engine?
No, Kawi has their own engine.
Gonna look at a Grom tomorrow. I'll have to take an Uber to the Honda dealer. :facepalm:
I want Blue Raspberry
(https://cdp.azureedge.net/products/USA/HO/2020/MC/SPORT/GROM/50/BLUE_RASPBERRY/2000000005.jpg)