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Title: EZ pass?
Post by: Tom on June 22, 2005, 12:58:07 PM
Do they have these where you guys live?  If your not familiar with it, you get this little electronic piece that you attach to your windshield that allows you to travel the turnpike without stopping at tolls.  You go through designated EZ Pass tolls  and a laser detects you there and sends you a bill every month.  Has anyone ever passed through one of these lanes w/o an EZ Pass unit?  What happened?  
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 22, 2005, 01:00:01 PM
they probably have a camera that takes a pic of your plate and they send you an EZ pass to the local courthouse.  
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: Tom on June 22, 2005, 01:03:29 PM
That's what I hear, but 2 people I know went through with no repercussions.  Maybe they file your plate number and if you repeadedly do it they bust you.
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Post by: R33 GT-R on June 22, 2005, 01:05:34 PM
Maybe, or they could be tallying up the bill every time you pass.  "You went through the EZpass line 37 times this month Tom, that'll be 2,789 dollars.  Will that be cash, charge or a local check."
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Post by: Raza on June 22, 2005, 03:10:49 PM
From what I hear, you get a ticket in the mail.  It's fucking ridiculous, on the turnpike there are mroe EZ Pass only lanes than ones that take cash--I don't travel enough on toll roads enough for it to make sense for me to have an EZ Pass, and I hate waiting in lines.  I know people who have been unable to get to a cash lane and were basically forced through the EZ Pass lane.

EZ Pass is for douchebags!
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Post by: R33 GT-R on June 22, 2005, 03:39:29 PM
Definitely, the EZ pass is for Douchebags!
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Post by: Tom on June 22, 2005, 04:04:54 PM
lol Some people swear by their EZ Pass.  If you don't have one here, you aren't cool.
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Post by: R33 GT-R on June 22, 2005, 04:10:10 PM
Go tell them we said they were for Douchebags.  
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: Raza on June 22, 2005, 04:11:09 PM
Quotelol Some people swear by their EZ Pass.  If you don't have one here, you aren't cool.
Yeah...they all congregate at Starbucks and compare whose coffee sucks the most and who got the worst price...

"My caramel-mocha-gelati-macchia-tosnas was seven dollars, how about you, Raza?"

"My..uh...coffee?...was...uh...four bucks...and it tastes worse than freeze dried dog shit..."

"What size would you like, sir?  Large, Larger, Tall, Grande, My Wife is Cheating on Me, or I Hate My Job and Want to Kill My Boss Because He Slept with My Wife?"

"The last one, Fabian.  The biggest one you got."

Starbucks... :rolleyes:  
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 22, 2005, 04:14:48 PM
Starbucks = Shitstain
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: L. ed foote on June 22, 2005, 04:15:10 PM
QuoteFrom what I hear, you get a ticket in the mail.  It's fucking ridiculous, on the turnpike there are mroe EZ Pass only lanes than ones that take cash--I don't travel enough on toll roads enough for it to make sense for me to have an EZ Pass, and I hate waiting in lines.  I know people who have been unable to get to a cash lane and were basically forced through the EZ Pass lane.

EZ Pass is for douchebags!
There is no monthly charge to use an EZ Pass; you do get a discount for using one.

I can't stand wating on line either.  Especially for a douchebag who uses a $20 bill to pay for a $1 toll.  Which is why I got an EZ Pass.  Gets me to happy hour quicker.

If your friends get forced into an EZ Pass lane, they don't know how to drive :lol:  
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Post by: Raza on June 22, 2005, 04:16:29 PM
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QuoteFrom what I hear, you get a ticket in the mail.  It's fucking ridiculous, on the turnpike there are mroe EZ Pass only lanes than ones that take cash--I don't travel enough on toll roads enough for it to make sense for me to have an EZ Pass, and I hate waiting in lines.  I know people who have been unable to get to a cash lane and were basically forced through the EZ Pass lane.

EZ Pass is for douchebags!
There is no monthly charge to use an EZ Pass; you do get a discount for using one.

I can't stand wating on line either.  Especially for a douchebag who uses a $20 bill to pay for a $1 toll.  Which is why I got an EZ Pass.  Gets me to happy hour quicker.

If your friends get forced into an EZ Pass lane, they don't know how to drive :lol:
I said I know people..not my friends, L. Ed!

I hear they measure your time and if you reach tolls too quickly they deduct money for speeding or what not.  Don't know if it's true, but I'm sure the government's already tracking me, so I don't need to help them out any.
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Post by: L. ed foote on June 22, 2005, 04:18:16 PM
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Quotelol Some people swear by their EZ Pass.  If you don't have one here, you aren't cool.
Yeah...they all congregate at Starbucks and compare whose coffee sucks the most and who got the worst price...

"My caramel-mocha-gelati-macchia-tosnas was seven dollars, how about you, Raza?"

"My..uh...coffee?...was...uh...four bucks...and it tastes worse than freeze dried dog shit..."

"What size would you like, sir?  Large, Larger, Tall, Grande, My Wife is Cheating on Me, or I Hate My Job and Want to Kill My Boss Because He Slept with My Wife?"

"The last one, Fabian.  The biggest one you got."

Starbucks... :rolleyes:
Starbucks...  <_<

I prefer the local diner.  The women are better looking there, anyway
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 22, 2005, 04:18:23 PM
Have you ever wiped your butt with your EZ pass?   :o  
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Post by: L. ed foote on June 22, 2005, 04:20:55 PM
QuoteI said I know people..not my friends, L. Ed!

I hear they measure your time and if you reach tolls too quickly they deduct money for speeding or what not.  Don't know if it's true, but I'm sure the government's already tracking me, so I don't need to help them out any.
Nah, they don't.

Had plenty of opportunities to put that theory to the test, and they haven't deducted anything other than toll $$ from my acct.

Besides, NY, NJ, DE, PA & MD would have to synchronize their clocks in order for a scheme like that to work...  You KNOW that ain't gonna happen.
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Post by: Raza on June 22, 2005, 04:22:48 PM
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Quotelol Some people swear by their EZ Pass.  If you don't have one here, you aren't cool.
Yeah...they all congregate at Starbucks and compare whose coffee sucks the most and who got the worst price...

"My caramel-mocha-gelati-macchia-tosnas was seven dollars, how about you, Raza?"

"My..uh...coffee?...was...uh...four bucks...and it tastes worse than freeze dried dog shit..."

"What size would you like, sir?  Large, Larger, Tall, Grande, My Wife is Cheating on Me, or I Hate My Job and Want to Kill My Boss Because He Slept with My Wife?"

"The last one, Fabian.  The biggest one you got."

Starbucks... :rolleyes:
Starbucks...  <_<

I prefer the local diner.  The women are better looking there, anyway
Council Rock (my high school--I use it to describe the area I live in) bitches love it there.  I hate paying 3 bucks for bad coffee.  I don't drink cocktails, if it has an umbrella in it I don't want it, and I don't drink froo-froo coffees.  Cream, sugar, black, maybe a shot of espresso if I'm very tired, I don't care.  I'll drink black coffee all day long, whatever.  Just don't put whip cream, chocolate sauce, of give it a stupid name like "macchiato".  It's coffee.  At least it used to be.
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: L. ed foote on June 22, 2005, 04:23:01 PM
QuoteHave you ever wiped your butt with your EZ pass?   :o
Nah, but the plastic velcro thingy (where you attach the EZ Pass to the windshield) can be used as a marital aid  :praise:  
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 22, 2005, 04:25:19 PM
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QuoteHave you ever wiped your butt with your EZ pass?   :o
Nah, but the plastic velcro thingy (where you attach the EZ Pass to the windshield) can be used as a marital aid  :praise:
:lol:  
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: Raza on June 22, 2005, 04:37:52 PM
What kind of name is EZ Pass anyway?  Sounds like an Ex Lax competitor.
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Post by: Tom on June 22, 2005, 05:19:11 PM
This thread is getting funny.  And I agree about the Starbucks sophistacates-- they deserve to be shat on.
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Post by: Raza on June 22, 2005, 05:23:14 PM
QuoteThis thread is getting funny.  And I agree about the Starbucks sophistacates-- they deserve to be shat on.
I'll Starbuck it now and then, but damn, I hate yuppies.  And I am a damn yuppie!
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: Tom on June 22, 2005, 05:25:16 PM
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QuoteThis thread is getting funny.  And I agree about the Starbucks sophistacates-- they deserve to be shat on.
I'll Starbuck it now and then, but damn, I hate yuppies.  And I am a damn yuppie!
Young Urban Professional?
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: Raza on June 22, 2005, 05:39:10 PM
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QuoteThis thread is getting funny.  And I agree about the Starbucks sophistacates-- they deserve to be shat on.
I'll Starbuck it now and then, but damn, I hate yuppies.  And I am a damn yuppie!
Young Urban Professional?
I thought it was "young, upwardly mobile......" and then I trail off.  
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: footoflead on June 22, 2005, 10:06:00 PM
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QuoteHave you ever wiped your butt with your EZ pass??? :o
Nah, but the plastic velcro thingy (where you attach the EZ Pass to the windshield) can be used as a marital aid  :praise:
:o  :o  :blink:  :blink:  :blink: :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :rolleyes:  :o  :o  :o  :o  :blink:  :blink:  :blink:  :o  :wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko:  :o    :o  :o   :blink:  :blink:  :blink: :rolleyes:  :wacko:  :wacko:  
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Post by: TurboDan on June 23, 2005, 12:02:03 AM
You better hope you never have to drive in NYC area, Raza!  

I had another meeting in NJ today, and my EZPass got plenty of use.

Let's see.  Well, first off, I had to exit the NJ Turnpike to go onto the "helix" which leads to the Lincoln Tunnel.  

WAIT TIME:  5 minutes.  Without EZPass: 20 minutes

Then, I had to go through the Lincoln Tunnel itself.  Got into the purple-outlined EZPass Only lanes.

WAIT TIME:  10 minutes.  Without EZPass: 25 minutes.

Was on my way to Forest Hills, Queens, so therefore had to go through the Queens-Midtown Tunnel.

WAIT TIME:  5 minutes.  Without EZPass: same

Then, I had to come back through the Midtown Tunnel later in the night.

WAIT TIME:  No wait.  WITHOUT EZPass: 5 minutes.


My point?  You pretty much HAVE TO have it if you live or drive around here.  And why would anyone resist having it?  I, for one, never enjoyed fumbling for money to pay a toll while simultaneously paying attention to traffic and stomping on the brake to make sure you don't rear-end someone - then opening you window in the cold of winter or heat of summer and reaching all the way out to hand the money to the toll collector while usually dropping a couple of coins onto the road.  Then, if you don't have exact change, waiting for change at a damn toll plaza.  It doesn't cost anything to own, and you even get a discount!  It works everywhere I drive - whether it's just to Queens/Brooklyn/Bronx to go somewhere quick or for longer trips down to DC or something.  I'm glad Maryland finally got rid of that awful M-Tag they had so now EZPass works there too.
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: Raza on June 23, 2005, 07:43:54 AM
I'm in NYC now and again (about once every month and a half or so, maybe less).  It's not that bad.  I've grown more patience for waiting.  
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 23, 2005, 07:53:54 AM
Dans got a good EZ pass but he doesn't flaunt it.  I'm all for being 007 ish with your EZ pass.
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Post by: Speed_Racer on June 23, 2005, 11:18:06 AM
I used to work at a local coffee shop and I hated making those fancy drinks. Mocha lattes, short cappucinos, machiatos, chai lattes etc. I can' t even spell some of those!

The good thing is that they would tip well, because they considered themselves the most considerate people in the world (just a common thing I noticed).

the funny thing is that I don't drink coffee, so when i made them, I had to make sure that the ingredients were always the same, becasue I had no clue when I made one right, or wrong.

I never got a complaint though!
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Post by: cozmik on June 23, 2005, 12:54:52 PM
I've got an EZ Pass. It's nice to have. The couple times I had to go the the Long Island offices for work, it came in handy. You don't have to think about if you have enough money or worry about getting change and things like that. On the NJ Turnpike, they have high speed readers, so you can pass through at like 55 MPH through the toll.
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Post by: TurboDan on June 23, 2005, 03:33:06 PM
Yeah, NJ is pretty much completely set up with the high speed EZPass.  The have it all along the Parkway, and on the entrances/exits to the Delawaer Memorial Bridge and the George Washington Bridge.

Delaware has it set up along Route 1 between the NJ border and Rehoboth Beach.

I haven't seen it up and running in any other states except NJ and DE, but supposedly they're working on it.  
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Post by: ifcar on June 23, 2005, 03:37:30 PM
They had them in Boston when I was there.
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Post by: Lebowski on June 23, 2005, 05:06:09 PM
QuoteDefinitely, the EZ pass is for Douchebags!
Fuck you, I have easypass and I think people without it are douchebags.  Actually, I have a Sunpass, not an EZpass, so technically you didn't call me a douchebag.

And starbucks is overrated shit.

EZ-Pass, on the otherhand, is not overrated shit.  It's very useful and anyone who doesn't have it is an idiot.

And the best thing about my sunpass?  The bill still goes to my dad.  So ha!  (Hey so I'm spoiled so what, I happen to have a 27 year old older brother who decided to become a surgeon and as a result to be unable to support himself until his early 30s, so it's very easy for me to mooch off of a very small percentage of the benefits he still gets from the parents).
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Post by: TurboDan on June 23, 2005, 05:28:51 PM
Haha.  The funny thing is that since my car is registered in NJ (cheaper insurance) my parents get my EZPass bill too.  :lol:  
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Post by: SargeMonkey on June 23, 2005, 05:48:29 PM
Starbucks tastes like WD40, but here and in most of oregon, there are bairly any toll booths so I no have EZ pass. :lol:

Hell I don't take more than five minutes to get accros town, hell maybe an hour to cross the whole county, even in portland, where I used to live, its fifteen minutes in rush hour if you take the backrouts. Klamath County.
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Post by: L. ed foote on June 23, 2005, 11:27:24 PM
QuoteI haven't seen it up and running in any other states except NJ and DE, but supposedly they're working on it.

Baltimore, MD
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Post by: R33 GT-R on June 24, 2005, 09:04:40 AM
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QuoteDefinitely, the EZ pass is for Douchebags!
Fuck you, I have easypass and I think people without it are douchebags.  Actually, I have a Sunpass, not an EZpass, so technically you didn't call me a douchebag.

And starbucks is overrated shit.

EZ-Pass, on the otherhand, is not overrated shit.  It's very useful and anyone who doesn't have it is an idiot.

And the best thing about my sunpass?  The bill still goes to my dad.  So ha!  (Hey so I'm spoiled so what, I happen to have a 27 year old older brother who decided to become a surgeon and as a result to be unable to support himself until his early 30s, so it's very easy for me to mooch off of a very small percentage of the benefits he still gets from the parents).
Don't flaut your Sunpass or you are a douchbag.  

Keep it on the down low, nobody has to know.
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Post by: L. ed foote on June 24, 2005, 09:56:08 AM
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QuoteDefinitely, the EZ pass is for Douchebags!
Fuck you, I have easypass and I think people without it are douchebags.  Actually, I have a Sunpass, not an EZpass, so technically you didn't call me a douchebag.

And starbucks is overrated shit.

EZ-Pass, on the otherhand, is not overrated shit.  It's very useful and anyone who doesn't have it is an idiot.

And the best thing about my sunpass?  The bill still goes to my dad.  So ha!  (Hey so I'm spoiled so what, I happen to have a 27 year old older brother who decided to become a surgeon and as a result to be unable to support himself until his early 30s, so it's very easy for me to mooch off of a very small percentage of the benefits he still gets from the parents).
Don't flaut your Sunpass or you are a douchbag.  

Keep it on the down low, nobody has to know.
nobody needs to know, 'cept da biz-nitches  
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 24, 2005, 10:50:21 AM
Nothing like pleasuring a woman with your EZ pass.  
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Post by: TurboDan on June 24, 2005, 09:34:20 PM
Hmm, Baltimore has high-speed EZPass now?  What road do they have that on?  I had to go down to Columbia, MD last month and took the usual route (I-95 to MD-100/Ellicott City exit) and didn't hit anything.

Haven't seen anything near the 95 to 83 route either.
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Post by: L. ed foote on June 25, 2005, 11:08:23 AM
QuoteHmm, Baltimore has high-speed EZPass now?  What road do they have that on?  I had to go down to Columbia, MD last month and took the usual route (I-95 to MD-100/Ellicott City exit) and didn't hit anything.

Haven't seen anything near the 95 to 83 route either.
my bad, misread your post.  EZ Pass, not high speed

Where on the GSP do they have high speed EZPass?  I've only seen it on the Turnpike
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Post by: Lebowski on June 25, 2005, 01:44:59 PM
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QuoteDefinitely, the EZ pass is for Douchebags!
Fuck you, I have easypass and I think people without it are douchebags.  Actually, I have a Sunpass, not an EZpass, so technically you didn't call me a douchebag.

And starbucks is overrated shit.

EZ-Pass, on the otherhand, is not overrated shit.  It's very useful and anyone who doesn't have it is an idiot.

And the best thing about my sunpass?  The bill still goes to my dad.  So ha!  (Hey so I'm spoiled so what, I happen to have a 27 year old older brother who decided to become a surgeon and as a result to be unable to support himself until his early 30s, so it's very easy for me to mooch off of a very small percentage of the benefits he still gets from the parents).
Don't flaut your Sunpass or you are a douchbag.  

Keep it on the down low, nobody has to know.
No way, gotta flaunt the sunpass.  My sunpass is all chromed out, mounted right in the center of the windshield so you can't miss it.  Bitches love it.
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: L. ed foote on June 25, 2005, 06:07:02 PM
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Quote
Quote
QuoteDefinitely, the EZ pass is for Douchebags!
Fuck you, I have easypass and I think people without it are douchebags.  Actually, I have a Sunpass, not an EZpass, so technically you didn't call me a douchebag.

And starbucks is overrated shit.

EZ-Pass, on the otherhand, is not overrated shit.  It's very useful and anyone who doesn't have it is an idiot.

And the best thing about my sunpass?  The bill still goes to my dad.  So ha!  (Hey so I'm spoiled so what, I happen to have a 27 year old older brother who decided to become a surgeon and as a result to be unable to support himself until his early 30s, so it's very easy for me to mooch off of a very small percentage of the benefits he still gets from the parents).
Don't flaut your Sunpass or you are a douchbag.  

Keep it on the down low, nobody has to know.
No way, gotta flaunt the sunpass.  My sunpass is all chromed out, mounted right in the center of the windshield so you can't miss it.  Bitches love it.
bling bling

werd
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 26, 2005, 08:52:06 AM
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Quote
Quote
QuoteDefinitely, the EZ pass is for Douchebags!
Fuck you, I have easypass and I think people without it are douchebags.  Actually, I have a Sunpass, not an EZpass, so technically you didn't call me a douchebag.

And starbucks is overrated shit.

EZ-Pass, on the otherhand, is not overrated shit.  It's very useful and anyone who doesn't have it is an idiot.

And the best thing about my sunpass?  The bill still goes to my dad.  So ha!  (Hey so I'm spoiled so what, I happen to have a 27 year old older brother who decided to become a surgeon and as a result to be unable to support himself until his early 30s, so it's very easy for me to mooch off of a very small percentage of the benefits he still gets from the parents).
Don't flaut your Sunpass or you are a douchbag.  

Keep it on the down low, nobody has to know.
No way, gotta flaunt the sunpass.  My sunpass is all chromed out, mounted right in the center of the windshield so you can't miss it.  Bitches love it.
I hear you my African Aphrodisiac, nothing says hood rat like a Sun Pass on 22" Dubs.
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Post by: crv16 on June 27, 2005, 10:43:12 AM
On a trip to DC a couple years ago, we came up to a wicked backed up toll plaza, with 2 or 3 empty lanes for ez-pass.  Rather than wait the extra 5 minutes for a cash toll booth, I blew thru an ez-pass lane.  Lights & buzzers went off, but nothing else happened.  No tickets in the mail.
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Post by: TBR on June 27, 2005, 10:45:20 AM
QuoteOn a trip to DC a couple years ago, we came up to a wicked backed up toll plaza, with 2 or 3 empty lanes for ez-pass.  Rather than wait the extra 5 minutes for a cash toll booth, I blew thru an ez-pass lane.  Lights & buzzers went off, but nothing else happened.  No tickets in the mail.
The probably go after you sometimes when you do that.  
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Post by: Tom on June 27, 2005, 10:50:56 AM
QuoteOn a trip to DC a couple years ago, we came up to a wicked backed up toll plaza, with 2 or 3 empty lanes for ez-pass.  Rather than wait the extra 5 minutes for a cash toll booth, I blew thru an ez-pass lane.  Lights & buzzers went off, but nothing else happened.  No tickets in the mail.
I've never heard of anyone getting mailed a ticket for doing that their first time.  But then again, none of them have done it more than once.  So we all have one free pass I guess.  Make sure to use it when coming up to an expesive toll, don't wasted it on a 50 cent fee.
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Post by: TurboDan on June 27, 2005, 01:38:20 PM
You can bet that if you blow the EZPass lane on the Verrazano Bridge in NYC which is a $9 toll, you'll be getting a ticket in the mail.   ;)  
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Post by: Raza on June 27, 2005, 02:04:08 PM
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QuoteOn a trip to DC a couple years ago, we came up to a wicked backed up toll plaza, with 2 or 3 empty lanes for ez-pass.  Rather than wait the extra 5 minutes for a cash toll booth, I blew thru an ez-pass lane.  Lights & buzzers went off, but nothing else happened.  No tickets in the mail.
I've never heard of anyone getting mailed a ticket for doing that their first time.  But then again, none of them have done it more than once.  So we all have one free pass I guess.  Make sure to use it when coming up to an expesive toll, don't wasted it on a 50 cent fee.
I have heard of people getting ticketed the first time.  And it was pretty expensive--a hell of a lot more than just waiting in line and paying your damn toll.
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Post by: Raza on June 27, 2005, 02:04:27 PM
QuoteYou can bet that if you blow the EZPass lane on the Verrazano Bridge in NYC which is a $9 toll, you'll be getting a ticket in the mail.   ;)
I hate that toll!
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: Tom on June 27, 2005, 02:19:30 PM
Thanks for the heads-up.  

Maybe someone could invent a flipdown liscense plate cover.
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: Raza on June 27, 2005, 02:21:00 PM
QuoteThanks for the heads-up.  

Maybe someone could invent a flipdown liscense plate cover.
They've got those sprays that supposedly make it unreadable to red light cameras without changing the appearance of the plate.
Title: EZ pass?
Post by: Tom on June 27, 2005, 02:25:18 PM
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QuoteThanks for the heads-up. 

Maybe someone could invent a flipdown liscense plate cover.
They've got those sprays that supposedly make it unreadable to red light cameras without changing the appearance of the plate.
Hmmm

I remember someone over at C&D had a sig that said something like "if you wax your car enough police radar will bounce off" :lol:  
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Post by: footoflead on June 27, 2005, 03:11:46 PM
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QuoteThanks for the heads-up.?

Maybe someone could invent a flipdown liscense plate cover.
They've got those sprays that supposedly make it unreadable to red light cameras without changing the appearance of the plate.
Hmmm

I remember someone over at C&D had a sig that said something like "if you wax your car enough police radar will bounce off" :lol:
:o  :o  :o  :o  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :o .....thats hilarious