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Title: Jaguar #1
Post by: Byteme on March 19, 2009, 10:25:56 AM
Pretty self explanatory.  Good Job Jaguar.



AP
Jaguar, Buick dethrone Lexus in reliability study
Thursday March 19, 8:10 am ET
By Dan Strumpf, AP Auto Writer
Jaguar, Buick tie for No. 1 in JD Power reliability study, bumping
Lexus from coveted spot

NEW YORK (AP) -- British luxury carmaker Jaguar surged to the top
of J.D. Power and Associates' closely watched vehicle dependability
study this year, tying Buick for the No. 1 spot and dethroning
Lexus for the first time since the Japanese luxury brand has been a
part of the survey.

Lexus, Toyota Motor Corp.'s luxury brand, took the next spot in the
study released Thursday, followed by Toyota's namesake brand, then
Mercury, Infiniti and Acura.

''Buick and Jaguar both lead the industry in nameplate performance,''
said Neal Oddes, director of product research and analysis at J.D.
Power. ''In terms of individual model performance, Lexus and Toyota
still do very, very well.''

The annual study measures problems experienced by the original
owners of vehicles after three years. Suzuki owners reported the
most problems among the 37 brands assessed by J.D. Power.

Despite losing its crown to Jaguar and Buick, Lexus still swept top
awards in four segments, while Toyota's namesake brand took five
awards. General Motors Corp.'s Buick LaCrosse was J.D. Power's top
midsize car, while Ford Motor Co.'s Lincoln brand took two awards.
Chrysler LLC, which took no segment awards last year, won top
honors for its Dodge Caravan in the van segment.

Jaguar's sudden jump to the top from its No. 10 spot in 2008 was
notable for a study that is fairly consistent from year to year.
Oddes said the brand has made significant improvements across many
areas.

''We see improvements all over the board with Jaguar,'' Oddes said,
citing fewer reported problems with vehicle exterior, sound system
and the overall driving experience. ''The improvement at a nameplate
level is significant.''

Still, Jaguar, which Indian car giant Tata Motors Ltd. bought from
Ford in 2007, remains a relatively small-volume brand in the U.S.
It sold just 14,000 vehicles here in 2008, while Buick sold 128,000.

Oddes said this year's study was redesigned to exclude routine
fixes from a vehicle's list of problems. For example, the study no
longer counts tire or windshield wiper replacements as a reportable
problem. The intended result is a study that focuses on actual
glitches with a vehicle, Oddes said, though it also makes it
difficult to make year-over-year comparisons.

''We cleaned up the survey to really try to focus in on things that
are truly broken,'' he said.

The industry average was 170 problems per 100 vehicles, or somewhat
less than two problems per vehicle. Last year, the industry average
was 206 problems per 100 vehicles, but year-over-year improvements
this year are much less pronounced when accounting for the changes
in the study's methodology, Oddes said.
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: Galaxy on March 19, 2009, 10:32:13 AM
Quote from: Byteme on March 19, 2009, 10:25:56 AM
.....the study no longer counts tire or windshield wiper replacements as a reportable
problem.

''We cleaned up the survey to really try to focus in on things that
are truly broken,'' he said.

:nutty:

In other words JD. Power was idiotic in the previous years. Are brake replacements still viewed as a defect.  :huh:
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: Payman on March 19, 2009, 11:19:32 AM
I remember the Mini Cooper scored low because the cupholders were too small.  :nutty:
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: sportyaccordy on March 19, 2009, 12:17:56 PM
Now I know the end is nigh
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: SVT_Power on March 19, 2009, 12:35:03 PM
I read that this morning and there's no way that's true...

They didn't rank top 3 in any category. How the hell do they rank #1?
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: ChrisV on March 19, 2009, 01:01:19 PM
Quote from: M_power on March 19, 2009, 12:35:03 PM
I read that this morning and there's no way that's true...

They didn't rank top 3 in any category. How the hell do they rank #1?

Same way a racer that finishes second in every race gets the points championship for the season. Consistency.
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: Galaxy on March 19, 2009, 01:47:43 PM
Quote from: ChrisV on March 19, 2009, 01:01:19 PM
Same way a racer that finishes second in every race gets the points championship for the season. Consistency.

You must mean a non F1 racer since with the new @!&4? regulations emphasising a win, a driver who is second in every race will loose to the lucky fool who crashes in every race, except that he won a chaotic wet Monaco race.

:(
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: Onslaught on March 19, 2009, 05:31:13 PM
If it was my money I'd still buy a Lexus over a Jaguar. But I personally wouldn't want either.
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: ChrisV on March 20, 2009, 07:00:37 AM
Quote from: Galaxy on March 19, 2009, 01:47:43 PM
You must mean a non F1 racer since with the new @!&4? regulations emphasising a win, a driver who is second in every race will loose to the lucky fool who crashes in every race, except that he won a chaotic wet Monaco race.

:(

Yeah. Unlike Europeans, I realize that there's more to racing than the primadonna parade called F1...

;)
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: nickdrinkwater on March 20, 2009, 10:34:52 AM
Well done Jag.  The XF is a great car
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: Byteme on March 20, 2009, 10:51:27 AM
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on March 20, 2009, 10:34:52 AM
Well done Jag.  The XF is a great car

I saw one on the road the other day and it did look good for what it is.  I still think the Series III XJ-6, say a 1984, is better looking though.
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: ifcar on March 20, 2009, 10:53:59 AM
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on March 20, 2009, 10:34:52 AM
Well done Jag.  The XF is a great car

The XF wasn't included, just 2006-model vehicles. And initial reliability ratings for the XF have been dreadful.
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: ChrisV on March 20, 2009, 11:17:23 AM
Actually, there's almost no data on the XF, and what little there is is estimated data based on a VERY small number of respondents (IIRC, TruDelta's survey is of a grand total of 25 cars over a 3 month period, extrapolated to cover all examples over a year).
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: the Teuton on March 20, 2009, 11:26:29 AM
I really like the XF, BTW.
Title: Re: Jaguar #1
Post by: ifcar on March 20, 2009, 11:27:51 AM
Quote from: ChrisV on March 20, 2009, 11:17:23 AM
Actually, there's almost no data on the XF, and what little there is is estimated data based on a VERY small number of respondents (IIRC, TruDelta's survey is of a grand total of 25 cars over a 3 month period, extrapolated to cover all examples over a year).

38 cars over six months.

But almost all of those cars have had some problem or other.