Hey all, been awhile since i've visited, i've been busy with a new job so i'm finally getting more internet time.
Just thought i'd drop a line. I just got back from making a deal on a car.
If any of you remember i was going to buy a new 350Z but after some thought(Nissan is going to do a drastic more porsche like redesign of the 350 in the coming years, so i didn't want a new one, and i didn't want to wait a couple years to get a fun sports car) i decided to revert back to a previous dream.
Well after a couple weeks of looking i found a nice car with everything i want.
I just purchased(picking up tuesday, picks soon to follow) a 1996 low mileage second owner Black on Black TT Z car. Its very clean and is basically show room quality. The price was pretty fair(market value) and these things are getting pretty slim when it comes to selection.
Truthfully i'll be just as happy with the Z32 as a new 350(mmmm those turbos building boost).
I'll detail it real nice and take some picks for you guys. :lol:
This thread is worthless without pics!
Local Honda dude imported one not too long ago, he's converting it to single turbo this winter.
Excuse my retardation...but I'm not sure what car you bought... <_<
cut me some slack run away, i'm excited.
I don't plan on modding it(its unmodded at this time, completely stock).
All i plan to do(possibly in the future) is a stillen intake/exhause and chip. Stillen has dyno tuned that package to 400 crank HP. More than enough for me.
A 1996 Nissan 300ZX twin turbo.
QuoteA 1996 Nissan 300ZX twin turbo.
TWO TUbroz?! :o
Seriously...what kinda power is that makin?
The car is rated at 300HP stock
I always liked the v6 turbo setup of the Z's.
Each bank is independant. Each having its own turbo/intercooler and throttle body.
5.5 second 0-60
13.9 second 1/4 mile
QuoteThis thread is worthless without pics!
Local Honda dude imported one not too long ago, he's converting it to single turbo this winter.
Why in the hell would you convert a Z32 to a single turbo?
QuoteQuoteThis thread is worthless without pics!
Local Honda dude imported one not too long ago, he's converting it to single turbo this winter.
Why in the hell would you convert a Z32 to a single turbo?
I'm guessing he's putting in one giant turbo, much as tha riceboyz like to do with twin-stage-turbo RX-7s.
(http://www.maximum-cars.com/Cars/Nissan/1996-300zx-Twin-Turbo.jpg)
Contrats. I think my neighbor has something similar. It sounds incredible and is kept spotless under a cover all the time.
QuoteQuoteThis thread is worthless without pics!
Local Honda dude imported one not too long ago, he's converting it to single turbo this winter.
Why in the hell would you convert a Z32 to a single turbo?
He thinks he can go faster for cheaper than upgrading his twins.
Here's the only pics i can find of his, I'm pretty sure it's changed since. These were taken when the car was still in japan.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/blackrc3/DSCN0781.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/blackrc3/DSCN0779.jpg)
For non-Z-car folk:
S30: 70-78 cars
S130: 79-83
Z31: 84-89
Z32: 90-96
Z33: 03-?
Congrats on the Z32TT! I've always like the Z32. It's a bit too big for my tastes, but they are amazing performers with highly potent engines that can approach 1000 hp! The design is timeless and it could almost pass for a new car today, IMO.
Good luck doing any mods on those! The engine bay is so tight!
BTW, The later 94-96 models look a little nicer than the earlier models, IMO. The front end is more smoothed out.
QuoteQuoteQuoteThis thread is worthless without pics!
Local Honda dude imported one not too long ago, he's converting it to single turbo this winter.
Why in the hell would you convert a Z32 to a single turbo?
He thinks he can go faster for cheaper than upgrading his twins.
Here's the only pics i can find of his, I'm pretty sure it's changed since. These were taken when the car was still in japan.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/blackrc3/DSCN0781.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/blackrc3/DSCN0779.jpg)
Gah, quad fart tips. The bumper wasn't designed for things that big.
QuoteQuoteQuoteThis thread is worthless without pics!
Local Honda dude imported one not too long ago, he's converting it to single turbo this winter.
Why in the hell would you convert a Z32 to a single turbo?
I'm guessing he's putting in one giant turbo, much as tha riceboyz like to do with twin-stage-turbo RX-7s.
The sequential twin setups in the RX-7 and Supra were complicated and in the case of the RX, sometimes prone to problems when you start modifying the car. I can understand opting for a single turbo in that case. The plumbing in those was pretty easy to go to a single turbo. When you have two cylinder banks, it makes sense to have a turbo for each especially if that's how the car comes from the factory. The plumbing changes for such a modification would seem like a headache to me. Of course, it's cheaper to upgrade when you only have one turbo to work with.
QuoteIt sounds incredible and is kept spotless under a cover all the time.
I think Z32s will be classics some day.
The sound of a Z32, is muscular, but not very distinctive, IMO. Although they sound much better than Z31s.
My car looks exactly(same wing) like the one secret posted(except black).
While the weight of the car is high, it handles the weight very well. Its my favorite Z car of all time, a dream come true for me.
Edit: the car also comes with a set of TSW(?) 17's shod in eagle F1 supercar tires.
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Gah, quad fart tips. The bumper wasn't designed for things that big.
Those are fart tips? :blink:
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a255/footoflead/Smilies/worthless.gif) <_< ....CONGRATS dude...have fun with it B)
whats with the look footy?
:D
Thanks guys, i'm sure i will have lots of fun with it.
Nevermind, the smily's didn't load for me(the worthless without pics one).
I'll have pics very soon.
Quotewhats with the look footy?
:D
Thanks guys, i'm sure i will have lots of fun with it.
I dunno...i was hopeing for some pics :(
QuoteNevermind, the smily's didn't load for me(the worthless without pics one).
I'll have pics very soon.
Ah... :D
Hey man--though I wouldn't have done what you did, you certainly made a great choice!!!
I'm happy for you. Get those pictures up soon.
QuoteQuoteThis thread is worthless without pics!
Local Honda dude imported one not too long ago, he's converting it to single turbo this winter.
Why in the hell would you convert a Z32 to a single turbo?
Were talking about a Honda Rice boy and a large turbo. I really don't think I need to explain. :lol:
I'm sure it would be really laggy, but whatever. :rolleyes:
QuoteQuoteQuoteThis thread is worthless without pics!
Local Honda dude imported one not too long ago, he's converting it to single turbo this winter.
Why in the hell would you convert a Z32 to a single turbo?
Were talking about a Honda Rice boy and a large turbo. I really don't think I need to explain. :lol:
You're pathetic.
Just stop with the rice jokes, they havn't been funny for a looooong time.
This guy knows what he's doing, and is actually following through with his plans.
http://www.z32power.com/691094428141735/bl...=|71|&NodeID=71 (http://www.z32power.com/691094428141735/blank/browse.asp?a=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&c=52917&691094428141735Nav=%7C71%7C&NodeID=71)
There's a successfull single turbo car for you.
From the owner:
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Originally Posted by boostedzee
the single turbo path is more of a "original" upgrade, but will not yeild more power than a good twin setup, for the vg30dett anyway.
my reason for doing this is to disprove all that non-sense.
besides, i'm not even going to touch the internals of my engine and make the same if not more than he was. he went all out on that engine and only made 620? definately something wrong. Have you looked up the cost of the turbo upgrade for the tt? 3500US! just for the turbos! lol, i paid that much for my turbo, front mount, downpipe and midpipe! as far as cost goes, i'll spend less than the tt guys and have a workable engine bay afterwards
but only time will tell i supose....
Sean, what basis do you have to say that it will be laggy? It's a T66 Ball bearing turbo. Get out your compressor maps and tell me why it won't be as effective as twins.
Congrats!
Larger turbo = greater rotational inertia = longer spool time. That is, in fact, why the twin turbo Supra came with sequential twin turbos instead of one larger one from the factory. Of course, from a tuning point of view it gets costly to upgrade two turbos, thus most guys ditch the sequential twins for a single large turbo. You can also get rid of some plumbing that way, at least with sequential turbos.
The fact that it's a ball-bearing turbo cuts down on spool time. With modern technology, a well-chosen single turbo will make full boost just as fast as a pair of twins.
In his case, most people keep the twin turbos.
Pick up Sport Compact Car's Engine and Driveline Handbook, it explains everything quite well. I'll go copy a few paragraphs.
And a pair of smaller ball bearing turbos will spool faster than a single large ball bearing turbo. Also, in the case of a V engine, you can run a true dual exhaust if you keep twin turbos. If you go to a single, you need to combine the exhaust from both banks to route it through the single turbine.
"Most people think that turbo lag is solely due to the inertia of a turbo's ratating parts, but lag is caused by a combination of insufficient gas flow at low rpm, inertia, and and mechanical losses. Insufficient gas flow however, is the biggest contributor to lag."
"With modern turbos, huge advances in compressor and turbine aerodynamics have resulted in greatly improved efficiency. New, computerized design techniques have benn used to optimize wheel mass and reduce lag-producing inertia. These design improvementshave largely overcome the lag problems in the last few years. Other recent innovations such as ball bearing center sections, lightweight compressors and turbine wheels have been used to reduce lag."
QuoteAnd a pair of smaller ball bearing turbos will spool faster than a single large ball bearing turbo. Also, in the case of a V engine, you can run a true dual exhaust if you keep twin turbos. If you go to a single, you need to combine the exhaust from both banks to route it through the single turbine.
The factory turbos I'm almost positive arn't the ball-bearing type.
Yes two small ball-bearing turbos will spool faster than a big single ball bearing turbo, assuming both are the proper size.
However Seans said "I'm sure it will be really laggy :rolleyes: " and I'm telling him, no it shouldn't be.
So his decision to go with a modern single turbo will probably result in lag very close to stock levels, while making much more power and costing less than two new modern turbos.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/blackrc3/r.jpg)
A mock up of his turbo on his car. Setup basically the same as what the peoplel with single turbo muscle cars do.
:rockon: Congrats.
(http://forums.maxima.org/images/smilies/worshipnissan.gif)
Where the hell do you pick this stuff up anyway? Do you constantly do research on forums? I know more about cars than 99% of my peers, and I know you're smarter than me, which BTW, pisses me off in case you can't tell. :angry: ;) :D
Anyway, it's kinda like swapping a SR20DET into an S30 Z. Yes, it makes more power, but it's just not the same.
The Z32 is supposed to be a TT!
To each his own, I suppose.
Wow congrats, that will be a fun car!
Can't wait to see the pics.
FBC...you are way too lucky. That's a beautiful car...especially with the twin turbos. I'd never be able to afford one, but it sure would be nice.
Have fun with that!
Congratulations. That style of Z is the best looking, in my opinion, and one of the best looking sports cars period. Beautiful.
Grats man, if I'm ever up near Forest Lake I'll let ya know :D
Thanks all, i look forward to a long happy ownership with my Z.
The seller is taking alittle longer than expected to get his lien released.
It looks like i'll be getting it monday or tuesday.
I can berely contain myself.
Hey champ, want to race for pinks.. :D
I've always wanted a Saab. B)
PICS PICS PICS
QuoteHey champ, want to race for pinks.. :D
I've always wanted a Saab. B)
haha, maybe after the warranty and I start upping that HP! :lol:
QuoteHey champ, want to race for pinks.. :D
I've always wanted a Saab. B)
I notice you don't challenge me. You don't want any of this german engineered racing technology.
I got 5 valves per cylinder and a turbo, biotch. :lol:
QuoteQuoteHey champ, want to race for pinks.. :D
I've always wanted a Saab. B)
I notice you don't challenge me. You don't want any of this german engineered racing technology.
I got 5 valves per cylinder and a turbo, biotch. :lol:
ya but mine is 2.3L 4cyl. turbo
and let's not forget he lives 30 minutes away from me :D
I prefer to believe he is simply afraid to race against me German-bred racing machine.
QuoteQuoteHey champ, want to race for pinks.. :D
I've always wanted a Saab. B)
I notice you don't challenge me. You don't want any of this german engineered racing technology.
I got 5 valves per cylinder and a turbo, biotch. :lol:
I didn't offer to race you because it would be a lose/lose situation for me.
Either i would lose my car, or i would end up with some POS VW.
QuoteQuoteQuoteHey champ, want to race for pinks.. :D
I've always wanted a Saab. B)
I notice you don't challenge me. You don't want any of this german engineered racing technology.
I got 5 valves per cylinder and a turbo, biotch. :lol:
I didn't offer to race you because it would be a lose/lose situation for me.
Either i would lose my car, or i would end up with some POS VW.
HAHA :D
QuoteQuoteQuoteHey champ, want to race for pinks.. :D
I've always wanted a Saab. B)
I notice you don't challenge me. You don't want any of this german engineered racing technology.
I got 5 valves per cylinder and a turbo, biotch. :lol:
I didn't offer to race you because it would be a lose/lose situation for me.
Either i would lose my car, or i would end up with some POS VW.
lol :D
QuoteQuoteQuoteHey champ, want to race for pinks.. :D
I've always wanted a Saab. B)
I notice you don't challenge me. You don't want any of this german engineered racing technology.
I got 5 valves per cylinder and a turbo, biotch. :lol:
I didn't offer to race you because it would be a lose/lose situation for me.
Either i would lose my car, or i would end up with some POS VW.
ZING!
He's just jealous because my car has more valves per cylinder. :praise:
:lol:
Here's a few pics of the car, its all i have right now(my dad snapped them when we went to pick it up).
I'll have some more later when i use the better digi, and get it cleaned up some more.
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1388/p10202546df.jpg)
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5425/p10202579bw.jpg)
I will be pulling the "bra" off before i drive it anymore(which will have to be next year, the weather is getting bad tonight).
I was just about to suggest you pull that daft bra off. But nice car, man.
Thanks, after picking it up (the day turned out to be nice) i was going to take the rest of the day off and drive it. But that didn't fly to well.
The hard part now is putting it in storage and waiting 4 months to drive it.
QuoteThanks, after picking it up (the day turned out to be nice) i was going to take the rest of the day off and drive it. But that didn't fly to well.
The hard part now is putting it in storage and waiting 4 months to drive it.
Where do you live now that you can't drive it during the winter months? Do you have another car, or do you live in a tightly spaced city?
I live in Minnesota, in a small town up north(about 30 miles from the metro). I can't drive it through the winter because we do get a good amount of snow and salt on the roads.
I have plenty of cars, this was meant to be my summer car.
QuoteI live in Minnesota, in a small town up north(about 30 miles from the metro). I can't drive it through the winter because we do get a good amount of snow and salt on the roads.
I have plenty of cars, this was meant to be my summer car.
Ahh, that makes sense. Sort of.
QuoteQuoteI live in Minnesota, in a small town up north(about 30 miles from the metro). I can't drive it through the winter because we do get a good amount of snow and salt on the roads.
I have plenty of cars, this was meant to be my summer car.
Ahh, that makes sense. Sort of.
I found one now(was tired of waiting, i've wanted one for years) and decided to buy it even though it was winter. They are slim pickings in the summer but in late august about 5 popped up in my area, and only one with the year/mileage/color combo i wanted, so i jumped on it.
I have room for it so storing it is no problem for me.
This isn't the 2 by 2 version, is it? T tops, right?
While I lament you not getting the new Z car, this is a great choice. With the 2 seater and T tops, it fits my definition of a sports car. Lucky you! :)
2+2's don't come in turbo form.
Mine is a 2 seat turbo model, and i think all Z's came with T-Tops(or like 98%).
Personally i don't like the T-Tops, i never use them and they are more prone to rust(due to the drains coming out in the wheel well and the tendancy to trap dirt in the drains lines).
However with any good Z you don't have to worry about that, good meaning well cared for garaged Z's. Most people wont even drive them in the rain(SOME traction issues in rain :D ). This one is pretty much spotless.
Awesome car FBC....beautiful...have fun in the summer w/ it for me
Congratulations.
Now, I've gotta go play catch up on the rest of the thread. :D
Thanks FOL and Bobwill.
Speaking of "lead foot" i had a hard time not downshifting to forth and punching on the way home, i restrained myself and drove the speedlimit.
Its just so much fun watching that boost gauge spike up to 14psi.
QuoteThanks FOL and Bobwill.
Speaking of "lead foot" i had a hard time not downshifting to forth and punching on the way home, i restrained myself and drove the speedlimit.
Its just so much fun watching that boost gauge spike up to 14psi.
:lol: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
QuoteHere's a few pics of the car, its all i have right now(my dad snapped them when we went to pick it up).
I'll have some more later when i use the better digi, and get it cleaned up some more.
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1388/p10202546df.jpg)
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5425/p10202579bw.jpg)
I will be pulling the "bra" off before i drive it anymore(which will have to be next year, the weather is getting bad tonight).
You know, it's amazing how gracefully the 300Z has aged. I mean, that body style came out in like 1989! It still looks quite new.
It does not look that old at ALl...amazing B)
For a 15 year old design it does still stand out to this day.
In my short trip home i had a few stares. Even more second looks.
I know many would disagree but i like this style better than the 350's(which was what i was going to get).
QuoteI know many would disagree but i like this style better than the 350's(which was what i was going to get).
the main problem with the 350z...is its just plain akward looking...imo
I'm more of a 80's / 90's smooth and sleek sports car fan, the 350 is a rather bulbous(sp?) design. Not bad(in black) but not as stunning as the 90's Z's when they hit the streets(imo).
QuoteI'm more of a 80's / 90's smooth and sleek sports car fan, the 350 is a rather bulbous(sp?) design. Not bad(in black) but not as stunning as the 90's Z's when they hit the streets(imo).
I agree.
QuoteHere's a few pics of the car, its all i have right now(my dad snapped them when we went to pick it up).
I'll have some more later when i use the better digi, and get it cleaned up some more.
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1388/p10202546df.jpg)
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5425/p10202579bw.jpg)
I will be pulling the "bra" off before i drive it anymore(which will have to be next year, the weather is getting bad tonight).
:rockon: B)
Thats one of my dream cars.
:praise:
Oh come on, can't you put like a half inch of wax on it and get some hooey dooeys with some studded tires?