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Title: Your keys
Post by: CALL_911 on February 04, 2015, 05:21:05 PM
I have a weird fascination with car keys. I really like my VW's switchblade, even though it's like a 17 year old design (damn, 1998 was 17 years ago). Has some heft to it, it looks cool, I always like messing around with the flip button. What kind of keys does your car have?

(http://www.autokeysquad.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/vwww.jpg)
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 04, 2015, 05:25:09 PM
Normal ones.

You know, the ones that can spend a year underwater and still work fine, that don't suddenly shut off the car when you're driving, fit in your pocket better than all subsequent designs; and cost about two bucks to replace?
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Byteme on February 04, 2015, 05:27:59 PM
Switchblade (Mazda 6), electronic (CLK320) and old metal (F150). 
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Post by: Laconian on February 04, 2015, 05:31:53 PM
TSX had a switchblade.
G has a lozenge.
Subaru has a key fob with a big Subaru logo button.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: MX793 on February 04, 2015, 05:38:28 PM
I'm partial to the switchblade key as well.
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Post by: CJ on February 04, 2015, 06:16:59 PM
(http://motorreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Photo-Jul-15-4-42-59-PM.jpg)
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on February 04, 2015, 06:27:33 PM
Switchblade here also! It's funny because I just got a recall notice and GM wants to replace the blade in my key. They're suppose to reinstall the blade at a 60 Degree angle so my knee won't hit it and turn the ignition off by accident.  :nutty:
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Cookie Monster on February 04, 2015, 07:07:06 PM
Just your standard key here:

(http://www.autokeysquad.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/mzr.jpg)

4Runner's key is even more basic, just a piece of metal. I love non-chipped keys. Yay for $1 copies!

Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: veeman on February 04, 2015, 07:11:58 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 04, 2015, 05:21:05 PM
I have a weird fascination with car keys. I really like my VW's switchblade, even though it's like a 17 year old design (damn, 1998 was 17 years ago). Has some heft to it, it looks cool, I always like messing around with the flip button. What kind of keys does your car have?

(http://www.autokeysquad.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/vwww.jpg)

I have the same exact keys for my 2013 beetle.  I usually don't see them or feel them because they're in a zippered pocket of my jacket especially in the winter.  They'd be even better if they were slimmer and lighter.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Lebowski on February 04, 2015, 07:13:31 PM
Both have a fob with a detachable key that opens the glove box etc.

M3 key fob is too damn big!
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on February 04, 2015, 07:17:18 PM
(http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj593/MexicoCityM3/IMAG0230_zpsfnixwb4y.jpg)

1M & M5's keys are identical.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: ifcar on February 04, 2015, 08:46:04 PM
I've been wary of the switchblade keys because they seem relatively fragile -- there's some wobble to them, and a rental Kia's wasn't opening nearly as quickly as it would have when new. I guess no one here with a relatively old car has had an issue?
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: hotrodalex on February 04, 2015, 08:50:59 PM
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--UKEcUSAU--/18cfxfz26ssgzjpg.jpg)

:muffin:
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: CALL_911 on February 04, 2015, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 04, 2015, 08:46:04 PM
I've been wary of the switchblade keys because they seem relatively fragile -- there's some wobble to them, and a rental Kia's wasn't opening nearly as quickly as it would have when new. I guess no one here with a relatively old car has had an issue?

I can speak for VW/Audi when I say those things aren't fragile
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: CALL_911 on February 04, 2015, 09:00:55 PM
Quote from: Lebowski on February 04, 2015, 07:13:31 PM
Both have a fob with a detachable key that opens the glove box etc.

M3 key fob is too damn big!

Dude I hate the new BMW keyfob. The thing is fuckin huge
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Rupert on February 04, 2015, 09:02:44 PM
I actually bought a new plastic key holder thing for the 944, because the Porsche logo fell out of the old one. Then I put it on a leather key chain that also has the Porsche logo. :lol:
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Raza on February 04, 2015, 10:12:24 PM
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on February 04, 2015, 07:17:18 PM
(http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj593/MexicoCityM3/IMAG0230_zpsfnixwb4y.jpg)

1M & M5's keys are identical.

Mine is the same as the one all the way to the left in the picture.  I like it fine, but it's not nearly as good a design as switchblade. 

Ro, for the record, my family's 1996 Mercedes had a switchblade, so it's been at least 19 years.  That one didn't have a lock when you opened it, unlock modern ones.  Switchblades are the best.  I had fully electronic from 2002-2004, switchblade from 2004-2012, fixed key from 2012 to now.  Fixed key is just a bit too bulky in the pocket. 

(http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr27/SpinRaza/2ED48151-74E8-4799-BDCA-DD18FED737D4-404-00000042B0D98EC0_zpsf2024cdd.jpg)
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Speed_Racer on February 04, 2015, 11:45:06 PM
Car and moto

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/SErtR6VuvDQpzrUoEHt_MynILNVov1IEKPlK_8S-PCc=w311-h553-no)
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: mzziaz on February 05, 2015, 03:13:17 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 04, 2015, 05:25:09 PM
Normal ones.

You know, the ones that can spend a year underwater and still work fine, that don't suddenly shut off the car when you're driving, fit in your pocket better than all subsequent designs; and cost about two bucks to replace?


I have the fundamental opposite!

(http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1767200463_1/100pcs-font-b-keys-b-font-font-b-renault-b-font-Megane-3-buttons-smart-font.jpg)
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 05, 2015, 03:44:24 AM
Does Renault have the problem with randomly shutting off cars as well?
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Post by: mzziaz on February 05, 2015, 05:33:49 AM
Not that I'm aware of. My cars (two) have been problem free in that regard.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: SJ_GTI on February 05, 2015, 07:09:36 AM
Mine is an electronic (keyless ignition).

(http://imagecdn2.panjo.com/images/671997e1-9526-4595-90b6-2a33d4cbfcad2.JPG)

If you press the button on the bottom, that whole metal section pops out and is a regular looking old fashion key. I assume it is to unlock stuff if the battery within the electronic key ever died.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Lebowski on February 05, 2015, 07:26:26 AM
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 04, 2015, 09:00:55 PM

Dude I hate the new BMW keyfob. The thing is fuckin huge



It's twice the size of the 4runner key for the same functionality.

One other thing that bugs me, something about the way it's designed (it kind of bulbs out) along with the other shit in my pocket will occasionally open the trunk when I'm at home and the fob is in my pocket. I'll walk down to the garage in the am and the trunk will be open.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Byteme on February 05, 2015, 08:01:59 AM
Quote from: ifcar on February 04, 2015, 08:46:04 PM
I've been wary of the switchblade keys because they seem relatively fragile -- there's some wobble to them, and a rental Kia's wasn't opening nearly as quickly as it would have when new. I guess no one here with a relatively old car has had an issue?

I've used the switchblade key for the six since June 2007 without a problem.  Last year I did not though that it seemed to be opening a tad slowly.  I gave the pivot point area a tiny shot of silicone lubricant from a spray can and all is well.  Both keys still are on the original factory batteries.  (Now that I've typed that bit of news they'll die tomorrow.)
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Byteme on February 05, 2015, 08:03:57 AM
Quote from: Rupert on February 04, 2015, 09:02:44 PM
I actually bought a new plastic key holder thing for the 944, because the Porsche logo fell out of the old one. Then I put it on a leather key chain that also has the Porsche logo. :lol:

As much as Porsche asks for their stuff you'd think it would hold together, even for something as old as a 944.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Byteme on February 05, 2015, 08:13:26 AM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on February 05, 2015, 07:09:36 AM
Mine is an electronic (keyless ignition).

(http://imagecdn2.panjo.com/images/671997e1-9526-4595-90b6-2a33d4cbfcad2.JPG)

If you press the button on the bottom, that whole metal section pops out and is a regular looking old fashion key. I assume it is to unlock stuff if the battery within the electronic key ever died.

That's similar to my Mercedes key.  You stick it in a socket and it electronically communicates with the car.  If they agree you can turn on the ignition.  It also has a small metal key you can remove to lock the glove box and trunk (but why not the console?) to keep the valets from pawing through them, I guess.   

You can also point the remote at the car's exterior door handles and hold the open button down and lower the windows.   It's line of sight like a TV remote.  so virtually worthless in a nose in parking lot since you need to stand to the side of the car to hit the target.  Why they didn't go to radio waves like the 6 is beyond me.   The 6, like so many other cars has a good key remote feature.   Press once and the driver's door unlocks, press twice and the other doors unlock.  Hold the button down on the second push and after a second all four windows go down.  Great on hot days to blow some of the trapped heat out of the car before you get in.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Byteme on February 05, 2015, 08:14:58 AM
Quote from: Lebowski on February 05, 2015, 07:26:26 AM

It's twice the size of the 4runner key for the same functionality.

One other thing that bugs me, something about the way it's designed (it kind of bulbs out) along with the other shit in my pocket will occasionally open the trunk when I'm at home and the fob is in my pocket. I'll walk down to the garage in the am and the trunk will be open.

When my key activates in my pocket by accident it's never the trunk button, it's always the panic button.   :banghead:
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on February 05, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
(http://www.hahabird.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/screwdriver_key_in_use1.jpg)
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Lebowski on February 05, 2015, 09:24:49 AM
Quote from: CLKid on February 05, 2015, 08:14:58 AM

When my key activates in my pocket by accident it's never the trunk button, it's always the panic button.   :banghead:



That occasionally happens to me too. Not with the m3 yet though.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Cookie Monster on February 05, 2015, 09:27:41 AM
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/thecarnut/IMG_20150205_092709703_zps75yzupz3.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/thecarnut/media/IMG_20150205_092709703_zps75yzupz3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: NomisR on February 05, 2015, 02:00:23 PM
Picture's not mine but exactly what it looks like including the keychain

(http://www.lotus28.com/sites/g/files/g389251/f/keys.jpg)
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Rupert on February 05, 2015, 09:29:11 PM
Quote from: CLKid on February 05, 2015, 08:03:57 AM
As much as Porsche asks for their stuff you'd think it would hold together, even for something as old as a 944.

I actually would not think that, but I would think the Porsche owner would be concerned enough that not everyone would know he drove a Porsche and so would fix it quickly.

<--- This guy.

:lol:
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Raza on February 06, 2015, 05:01:17 AM
Quote from: ifcar on February 04, 2015, 08:46:04 PM
I've been wary of the switchblade keys because they seem relatively fragile -- there's some wobble to them, and a rental Kia's wasn't opening nearly as quickly as it would have when new. I guess no one here with a relatively old car has had an issue?

4 years on the Jetta, 4 on the Passat, and I think 10 or 12 on the S320 and I never noticed any issues. 
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Raza on February 06, 2015, 05:03:32 AM
Quote from: NomisR on February 05, 2015, 02:00:23 PM
Picture's not mine but exactly what it looks like including the keychain

(http://www.lotus28.com/sites/g/files/g389251/f/keys.jpg)

Oh man, I'd forgotten how cheap looking the Lotus keys are.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Laconian on February 06, 2015, 02:59:41 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 04, 2015, 08:46:04 PM
I've been wary of the switchblade keys because they seem relatively fragile -- there's some wobble to them, and a rental Kia's wasn't opening nearly as quickly as it would have when new. I guess no one here with a relatively old car has had an issue?
One of the TSX's switchblade keys broke. They would fold independently of whether or not the button was pressed.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on February 06, 2015, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: Raza  on February 06, 2015, 05:03:32 AM
Oh man, I'd forgotten how cheap looking the Lotus keys are.

It's British, if the key where any more complicated it would have failed by know.

If anything I think the addition of a rubber coating on the head is quite nice and a very ballsy move over a conventional all metal key.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: 2o6 on February 08, 2015, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 04, 2015, 09:00:55 PM
Dude I hate the new BMW keyfob. The thing is fuckin huge


I don't like the one for the regular cars (I think it feels cheap)


But I absolutely LOVE the one for the X5 and i3. The X5's feels so heavy and high-quality

(http://s1.paultan.org/image/2013/05/2014-bmw-x5-msport-key-fob.jpg)

(http://image.automotive.com/f/reviews-12-month-car-reviews-1501-living-with-the-2014-bmw-i3/61002531/2014-bmw-i3-edrive-key-fob-detailjpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Byteme on February 08, 2015, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on February 06, 2015, 04:00:51 PM
If anything I think the addition of a rubber coating on the head is quite nice and a very ballsy move over a conventional all metal key.

That was done to contain the oil leak.   

Or to protect the driver from electrocution when the ignition switch shorts out.    :lol:
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 09, 2015, 11:13:18 PM
I have to admit; i have never wondered whether or not my car keys  looked cheap, or classy, or weighty and high quality. It's perhaps one of the things ive simply overlooked. After all, the keys are not only one of the objects most often interfaced with and are a significant part of the experience. Plus, a nice set of keys are more impressive on those occasions when you can't actually contrive to have people notice your car; its often quite possible to leave your keys on the table and get noticed that way.

No, that's just stupid. I just want the damned things to fit in my pocket and start my car reliably.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Rupert on February 09, 2015, 11:29:24 PM
Oh my god. Is that a watermark?
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Cookie Monster on February 09, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 09, 2015, 11:13:18 PM
I have to admit; i have never wondered whether or not my car keys  looked cheap, or classy, or weighty and high quality. It's perhaps one of the things ive simply overlooked. After all, the keys are not only one of the objects most often interfaced with and are a significant part of the experience. Plus, a nice set of keys are more impressive on those occasions when you can't actually contrive to have people notice your car; its often quite possible to leave your keys on the table and get noticed that way.

No, that's just stupid. I just want the damned things to fit in my pocket and start my car reliably.

I wish we could go back to the chip less days when keys could fit in your wallet and cost a dollar to copy.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 09, 2015, 11:34:13 PM
Quote from: Rupert on February 09, 2015, 11:29:24 PM
Oh my god. Is that a watermark?

Hey, this is way more important than business cards!
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 09, 2015, 11:35:15 PM
Quote from: thecarnut on February 09, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
I wish we could go back to the chip less days when keys could fit in your wallet and cost a dollar to copy.

Not quite sure we can.

I paid over two bucks for my last set.
Title: Re: Your keys
Post by: 2o6 on February 11, 2015, 03:46:45 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 09, 2015, 11:13:18 PM
I have to admit; i have never wondered whether or not my car keys  looked cheap, or classy, or weighty and high quality. It's perhaps one of the things ive simply overlooked. After all, the keys are not only one of the objects most often interfaced with and are a significant part of the experience. Plus, a nice set of keys are more impressive on those occasions when you can't actually contrive to have people notice your car; its often quite possible to leave your keys on the table and get noticed that way.

No, that's just stupid. I just want the damned things to fit in my pocket and start my car reliably.

A designer designing an expensive feeling key (for a luxury car, none the less) means a lot to people. People appreciate when things feel nicely.