A little backstory:
Since I'd given up riding in March (crashed the 954 on the way to work and broke my collarbone, but that's another story), I had to start driving to work for the first time in four years. My commute was only 7 miles each way, so between the RX7 and Miata I was getting by OK. However, I ended up moving back home with my parents, and my commute ended up stretching to 20 miles each way. The RX7 also took a shit on me after replacing the fuel pump (my guess is a dirty tank is clogging the fuel pump now), so it was back to the Miata commuting full time, 40 miles a day.
I hadn't realized how unlivable I had made the Miata with all my sweet ricecar mods. I have to wear headphones in the car, and even with good in ear monitors I started getting tinnitus from the stupid amount of exhaust, drivetrain and tire noise. Plus, I was starting to get irritated with the lack of space, and with my brother using the MDX everyday and my general dislike of the MDX (it's a great SUV for what it is, but god damn it's boring to drive), I decided I needed something more practical and more livable. My only requirements were AWD (for skiing) and a manual (duh).
I ended up with a 1996 Subaru Outback with the 2.2L specifically to hopefully avoid any headgasket issues. It's lowered on shit eBay coilovers and rides like a dump truck, but has a fucking bangin sound system with two amps under the front seats and two subs in the spare tire well. Everything, including the A/C, works, and other than some clunking here and there it drives fine. The coilovers are so stiff the car handles pretty well for what it is, but I'm going to at least raise it come winter so it doesn't sag like crazy while hauling people and skis to the slopes.
I've already bought some endlinks too, to try and cure the clunking. Other than that, the car seems like its good to go *knock on wood*. I also threw my Thule top box on there for extra fun adventuring times. :lol:
(http://i.imgur.com/KNZ2NTF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/OdXNlOv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ycta6nn.jpg)
Tearing into the wiring a couple hours after buying:
(http://i.imgur.com/zgMTpPb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/M8q0Zdr.jpg)
Yes, you can flame me for 1) crashing yet again and 2) being such an epic fail of a ricer I don't even want to drive my own car on the street anymore. :lol:
Broke your collarbone in a second motorcycle wreck? Yikes.
For ski and DD rigs Subarus are hard to beat. I only wish they still made a modern version of the XT and GT (turbo w/MT) wagon.
Quote from: GoCougs on June 17, 2017, 11:03:09 PM
Broke your collarbone in a second motorcycle wreck? Yikes.
For ski and DD rigs Subarus are hard to beat. I only wish they still made a modern version of the XT and GT (turbo w/MT) wagon.
Technically my 3rd wreck and yeah, snapped it into 3 pieces and had to get surgery to have a plate and 7 screws put in.
3-4 weeks in a sling and I was good to go. Started lifting full time 5 weeks afterwards, and did a Tough Mudder last week (~11 weeks post surgery) and had no problems, so it wasn't a big deal.
I'm out of the loop on Subies. Is that the one that's considered a lesbian vehicle or is that some other model?
:huh:
I approve :ohyeah:
Why not just put a turbo style muffler on the Miata? I had a straight pipe to a big baffled muffler on my first Accord after one of those fake "Mugen twin loop" pipes, and it was pretty good (for me at like age 20). Blunted top end a little bit but still got the job done (and didn't piss my mom off when I left early in the morning :) )
You're done with motorcycles now? Selling off everything? I can't say I blame you. I support this decision.
Congrats on the purchase. Looks really clean. A Subaru of that age around here is always rusted to hell.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 18, 2017, 08:57:27 AM
I approve :ohyeah:
Why not just put a turbo style muffler on the Miata? I had a straight pipe to a big baffled muffler on my first Accord after one of those fake "Mugen twin loop" pipes, and it was pretty good (for me at like age 20). Blunted top end a little bit but still got the job done (and didn't piss my mom off when I left early in the morning :) )
Doesn't address the road and wind noise associated with tearing the sound insulation out.
Guys please now refer to this as the Raggin Waggin
Thank you for your time
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 18, 2017, 08:57:27 AM
I approve :ohyeah:
Why not just put a turbo style muffler on the Miata? I had a straight pipe to a big baffled muffler on my first Accord after one of those fake "Mugen twin loop" pipes, and it was pretty good (for me at like age 20). Blunted top end a little bit but still got the job done (and didn't piss my mom off when I left early in the morning :) )
I could (and might still) put a quieter muffler on the Miata, but that doesn't solve my space issues. I have too many other hobbies like cycling and skiing to be stuck with a 2 seater as my only car.
Quote from: MrH on June 18, 2017, 09:28:19 AM
You're done with motorcycles now? Selling off everything? I can't say I blame you. I support this decision.
Congrats on the purchase. Looks really clean. A Subaru of that age around here is always rusted to hell.
For now, yep. Sold two bikes, still have one more to move. I might get a supermoto in the future but this car was largely funded by motorcycle sales. :lol:
And yeah, it's not bad at all. I was pretty impressed with how solidly it drove.
Quote from: 68_427 on June 18, 2017, 10:18:08 AM
Guys please now refer to this as the Raggin Waggin
Thank you for your time
My friend suggested getting a vanity plate that says "RAGNWGN". Yes or no?
Here are some crappy interior pics:
(http://i.imgur.com/vmLZs4R.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/shoNGVv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QL2sDau.jpg)
I'm trying to find some mesh grate to put over the subwoofers to be able to put things in the back:
(http://i.imgur.com/448tK6O.jpg)
Wait, no more bikes? Why? Were the accidents the result of people's shitty driving or poor riding decisions? That bums me out :(
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 18, 2017, 11:23:36 AM
My friend suggested getting a vanity plate that says "RAGNWGN". Yes or no?
Perfect
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 18, 2017, 01:28:04 PM
Wait, no more bikes? Why? Were the accidents the result of people's shitty driving or poor riding decisions? That bums me out :(
I got cut off in traffic at a highway interchange due to someone else wanting to make a last minute lane change. It was my fault in that it could have been prevented but my mind was fried from long hours at work and no sleep.
Putting myself through so much risk just to get to work every day is not worth it to me. 3 crashes in a year is also not worth it so I'm done for now. As I said, maybe a supermoto in the future but I'm not missing riding for now.
Dirt > Street
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 18, 2017, 01:41:34 PM
I got cut off in traffic at a highway interchange due to someone else wanting to make a last minute lane change. It was my fault in that it could have been prevented but my mind was fried from long hours at work and no sleep.
Putting myself through so much risk just to get to work every day is not worth it to me. 3 crashes in a year is also not worth it so I'm done for now. As I said, maybe a supermoto in the future but I'm not missing riding for now.
WOW! Nice Sube tho......
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 18, 2017, 02:06:00 PM
Dirt > Street
I was going to say, track days, but bikes are cheap over there and it takes time. I would sell the Miata for a track bike but it's all good.
Between the suits and potentially breaking bones I prefer to track cars. Tracking bikes is rewarding but I don't really want to get a tow rig and trailer and all that shit again.
Fair enough :cry:
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 18, 2017, 02:29:05 PM
Fair enough :cry:
More motorcycles in the world for you to buy now no need to cry :lol:
135 hp, you're gonna be so bored driving that thing :lol:.
I would say 180-190hp is fairly simple, but not with that shit California gas
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 18, 2017, 06:55:09 PM
135 hp, you're gonna be so bored driving that thing :lol:.
Yeah this thing makes my Miata feel fast. :lol:
But, with some friends in the car and just cruising down the street, I love this car. I don't have to drive it fast or like an asshole because I can just cruise and listen to music.
Today I pulled the bumper ducky off the NC and stuck it on the Subaru:
(http://i.imgur.com/jGIaOLK.jpg)
The wiper arms were rusty and gross looking so I quickly cleaned and sanded them and spray painted them.
(http://i.imgur.com/uMMy9fX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Y1YUJNA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/v9DC2FF.jpg)
And an artsy fartsy pic from dinner just because:
(http://i.imgur.com/gicp4ZN.jpg)
I really don't understand driving a wagon and then putting a luggage carrier on top for day to day driving.
Quote from: r0tor on June 19, 2017, 05:23:55 AM
I really don't understand driving a wagon and then putting a luggage carrier on top for day to day driving.
I'd assume is was a test fit and possibly being used for cargo until he builds something to sit over his subwoofers.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 18, 2017, 11:10:32 PM
Yeah this thing makes my Miata feel fast. :lol:
But, with some friends in the car and just cruising down the street, I love this car. I don't have to drive it fast or like an asshole because I can just cruise and listen to music.
Today I pulled the bumper ducky off the NC and stuck it on the Subaru:
A new phase, congratulations. :lol:
Quote from: 68_427 on June 19, 2017, 05:28:53 AM
I'd assume is was a test fit and possibly being used for cargo until he builds something to sit over his subwoofers.
That and I don't have a better place to put it at home. :lol:
Nice!
Now you have THREE cars? I thought everyone in the Bay Area just teleported and complained from place to place
Three cars that he should sell and get one decent car
Quote from: r0tor on June 19, 2017, 05:23:55 AM
I really don't understand driving a wagon and then putting a luggage carrier on top for day to day driving.
Skis + passengers. I've been thinking about getting one for the Explorer.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 19, 2017, 09:37:30 AM
Skis + passengers. I've been thinking about getting one for the Explorer.
I think he's talking more about just leaving it there 24/7/365 like some people seem to do. I've got a customer who drives a Matrix with a bike rack and a luggage carrier on top...they never leave that roof. It is kinda weird to leave them on all the time (especially the luggage box) because of MPGs and stuff, but I get it, especially on smaller vehicles that get decent mileage.
Quote from: 2o6 on June 19, 2017, 08:54:41 AM
Nice!
Now you have THREE cars? I thought everyone in the Bay Area just teleported and complained from place to place
:lol:
Thanks!
Quote from: SVT_Power on June 19, 2017, 09:24:48 AM
Three cars that he should sell and get one decent car
Aren't you the one with the busted up Sorrento?
Plus, even if I sold all three I wouldn't be halfway to a decent car. :cry:
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 19, 2017, 09:49:19 AM
I think he's talking more about just leaving it there 24/7/365 like some people seem to do. I've got a customer who drives a Matrix with a bike rack and a luggage carrier on top...they never leave that roof. It is kinda weird to leave them on all the time (especially the luggage box) because of MPGs and stuff, but I get it, especially on smaller vehicles that get decent mileage.
Not any weirder than dailying a truck or SUV by yourself for a commute. It's a waste either way. I just don't have a place to put such a big top box at home. It was previously sitting in the backyard covered in mud and mildew so I figure the roof of the car is a better place for it. I do want to get a fairing for it though.
True enough. I don't see a big issue with it. Having a place to store it when not in use would certainly be helpful...but the roof is the next best thing. :lol:
Quote from: 2o6 on June 19, 2017, 08:54:41 AM
Nice!
Now you have THREE cars? I thought everyone in the Bay Area just teleported and complained from place to place
Somebody's gotta be stuck in traffic for there to be traffic.
Jesus Christ.
I want to change the transmission fluid just for peace of mind and it looks like I've opened a can of worms. So many different opinions on what to use, including people making their own "cocktails" out of different fluids. Apparently Subaru manual transmissions are weird in that they have the transmission, front diff and center/transfer case all in one unit sharing the same fluid. Ugh.
Interesting. I use the same basic fluid (Valvoline synthetic gear oil), but different weights for the transmission and rear end.
Use the factory recommended fluid.
Quote from: shp4man on June 19, 2017, 01:22:27 PM
Use the factory recommended fluid.
Factory recommends GL-5, but not all GL-5 is the same apparently.
The Subaru Extra-S OEM fluid is supposed to be the best but they don't make that anymore and the replacement stuff apparently isn't as good.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 19, 2017, 01:35:36 PM
Factory recommends GL-5, but not all GL-5 is the same apparently.
The Subaru Extra-S OEM fluid is supposed to be the best but they don't make that anymore and the replacement stuff apparently isn't as good.
It's an old car. It's not gonna hurt it much more that it already is.
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 19, 2017, 01:56:46 PM
It's an old car. It's not gonna hurt it much more that it already is.
I still want to get as much life out of it as possible. :huh:
Plus, these 5 speeds are known to be weak. I just want to make sure it'll go for as long as possible.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 19, 2017, 02:18:49 PM
I still want to get as much life out of it as possible. :huh:
Plus, these 5 speeds are known to be weak. I just want to make sure it'll go for as long as possible.
Bear in mind that there may be a lot of gunk in there that is holding things together and keeping everything from rattling around. :lol:
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 19, 2017, 09:49:19 AM
I think he's talking more about just leaving it there 24/7/365 like some people seem to do. I've got a customer who drives a Matrix with a bike rack and a luggage carrier on top...they never leave that roof. It is kinda weird to leave them on all the time (especially the luggage box) because of MPGs and stuff, but I get it, especially on smaller vehicles that get decent mileage.
Ah yeah.
I'd guess that some people just don't have anywhere to store them, and some people continue to use them in the summer just for road trips or camping or whatnot. I definitely see them a lot around here.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 19, 2017, 06:25:01 PM
Ah yeah.
I'd guess that some people just don't have anywhere to store them, and some people continue to use them in the summer just for road trips or camping or whatnot. I definitely see them a lot around here.
Bike racks and Thule luggage carriers can be found en masse at any local food co-op, Whole Foods, or Trader Joe's. :lol:
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 19, 2017, 06:25:01 PM
Ah yeah.
I'd guess that some people just don't have anywhere to store them, and some people continue to use them in the summer just for road trips or camping or whatnot. I definitely see them a lot around here.
Let's just call it like it is; they're fashion accessories to a certain extent.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 19, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Let's just call it like it is; they're fashion accessories to a certain extent.
Can't argue with that. I do love how it looks, enough to pay the MPG penalty.
It's super easy to find in parking lots as well. Plus, my friends want to go camping now that I have this car so it might come in handy over the summer as well.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 19, 2017, 07:12:32 PM
Plus, my friends want to go camping now that I have this car so it might come in handy over the summer as well.
Too bad it's lowered. :lol:
BTW the "weak" 5 speed complaints are kinda over blown especially on these low power N/A cars. I would just go to the dealer and ask what they would put in, or find a reputable indy shop and ask. My friend only just blew up his 5 speed after 3 years at over 350awhp.
When you getting that eBay header? Wait do you have the single port EJ22? 1996 was an odd year with some cars having single port heads, and some having dual port heads since the dual ports were supposed to be phased out completely by the '97 model year.
What kind of shitty transmission is too weak for 135 hp :wtf:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 19, 2017, 09:19:30 PM
What kind of shitty transmission is too weak for 135 hp :wtf:
The "glass tranny" started getting thrown around when the Bugeye came out and people were doing redline launches in them to try to match the published 5.2s 0-60 times and shit.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 19, 2017, 09:11:54 PM
Too bad it's lowered. :lol:
It'll be raised (to Cale DeRoo height) before packing it with gear and people so it doesn't sag. I definitely don't want stock Legacy/Outback height though.
I also went to the steel yard today and bought the thickest grate they had, then painted it purple just because.
(http://i.imgur.com/80gvJrY.jpg)
Nailed that shit down and it's sturdy AF now. Now I can actually put things in the trunk!
Is there enough of a gap for the woofer to be bumpin?
I think I'm lower than you tho
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4274/35010279582_e7b54e89e9_b.jpg)
I'll measure to the top of the wheel arch from the ground tomorrow
Also interesting that you entire floor lifts up. I think only my spare cover does
I'm almost tuckin tho.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 19, 2017, 10:47:44 PM
Is there enough of a gap for the woofer to be bumpin?
Woofer can indeed woof because they're recessed into the wood a bit.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 19, 2017, 11:14:52 AM
Jesus Christ.
I want to change the transmission fluid just for peace of mind and it looks like I've opened a can of worms. So many different opinions on what to use, including people making their own "cocktails" out of different fluids. Apparently Subaru manual transmissions are weird in that they have the transmission, front diff and center/transfer case all in one unit sharing the same fluid. Ugh.
Bruh, just use vape fluid like all the other Subaru guys.
Nice lesbo wagon. Your 4Runner was so much cooler, though.
Quote from: 68_427 on June 19, 2017, 10:51:26 PM
I think I'm lower than you tho
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4274/35010279582_e7b54e89e9_b.jpg)
I'll measure to the top of the wheel arch from the ground tomorrow
Also interesting that you entire floor lifts up. I think only my spare cover does
They look pretty close.
Also, what color is your car? It looks like a dark purple there, but blue in your sig.
Quote from: Raza on June 20, 2017, 05:42:34 AM
Nice lesbo wagon. Your 4Runner was so much cooler, though.
You said the same thing about my Volvo when I got the 4Runner. :lol:
Quote from: MrH on June 20, 2017, 05:19:10 AM
Bruh, just use vape fluid like all the other Subaru guys.
:clap: :lol:
Quote from: MrH on June 20, 2017, 05:19:10 AM
Bruh, just use vape fluid like all the other Subaru guys.
There's a WRX around here with the license plate "VAPEBRO," and he works at (possibly owns) a local vape shop. The total embracing of "I am a douchebag" is almost commendable.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 20, 2017, 10:51:00 AM
They look pretty close.
Also, what color is your car? It looks like a dark purple there, but blue in your sig.
It's blue. I photoshopped it purple because reasons :lol:
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 20, 2017, 10:51:00 AM
They look pretty close.
Also, what color is your car? It looks like a dark purple there, but blue in your sig.
I think it's mother of pearl
INB4 this is Rag's wagon next year
(http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/attachments/parts-accessories-performance/24592d1344129735-body-kit-help-subaru-legacy-wide-body-kit-2.jpg)
and he needs a new daily
Oh god. Don't give me ideas. :lol:
How easy is that engine to terbow? Iron block?
Quote from: Rich on June 21, 2017, 04:47:37 AM
How easy is that engine to terbow? Iron block?
Aluminum. It's not worth it. It'll cost the same to swap an already turbocharged engine (wrx etc) into it.
1- Congrats!
2- takes me back, same color interior as my Legacy :cry:
3- roofboxes are good for sweaty gym clothes. Especially if you workout in the morning and don't take clothes home until after workday (Army but not me)
4- roofboxes kill what, 2-3mpg on highway????
5- lowering outbacks cracks me up.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on June 21, 2017, 06:46:23 PM
1- Congrats!
2- takes me back, same color interior as my Legacy :cry:
3- roofboxes are good for sweaty gym clothes. Especially if you workout in the morning and don't take clothes home until after workday (Army but not me)
4- roofboxes kill what, 2-3mpg on highway???? depends on the vehicle, but at 65-70mph it's probably more like 5-7mpg on most 4cyl cars
5- lowering outbacks cracks me up.
Don't understand why so many people have issues with lowering an Outback. These are 20+ year old cars, there aren't a ton out there anymore. It's like saying why put a V8 in your I6 Chevy II? Or why put QA1 coilovers on your IROC when you could have bought a 1LE car instead? I bet if someone lifted a Legacy you'd be over there like :rockon:
Quote from: 68_427 on June 21, 2017, 10:00:32 PM
Don't understand why so many people have issues with lowering an Outback. These are 20+ year old cars, there aren't a ton out there anymore. It's like saying why put a V8 in your I6 Chevy II? Or why put QA1 coilovers on your IROC when you could have bought a 1LE car instead? I bet if someone lifted a Legacy you'd be over there like :rockon:
Well I think it's funny just because if I were to get an Outback, the extra ground clearance would be the whole point. It seems less silly on a Legacy since the Legacy wasn't already raised from the factory, even though I'm assuming the same suspension kits can go on either model.
But I don't actually take issue with it. It just makes me :lol: a little.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 21, 2017, 10:28:53 PM
Well I think it's funny just because if I were to get an Outback, the extra ground clearance would be the whole point. It seems less silly on a Legacy since the Legacy wasn't already raised from the factory, even though I'm assuming the same suspension kits can go on either model.
But I don't actually take issue with it. It just makes me :lol: a little.
Yeah everything swaps over directly, although the Outback comes with larger sway bars from the factory so clearly we should use those if we want a good handling wagon :praise:
But like I said these are 20 year old vehicles, and when you find a clean one you just gotta go with it. I wanted a Legacy GT wagon, but couldn't find one so was forced to "make" my own. I've also grown to prefer the two tone.
Added bonus info: The Outback started out as just an "cold weather" package, and when it was introduced shared the Legacies suspension so really we are just bringing it back to it's roots. :thumbsup:
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 19, 2017, 09:11:54 PM
Too bad it's lowered. :lol:
Pretty sure that with friends who base their desire to camp on one of them getting a car that is supposed to be good at that, the ride height won't be an issue. :lol:
Damn, you guys are salty AF. I'm assuming it's jealousy. :huh:
I threw my bicycle in the back and went riding after work with a friend. I've never done that before. :rockon:
Oh yeah, I got a head nod from a dude in a slammed Forester XT yesterday too. :lol:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 22, 2017, 02:37:36 AM
Oh yeah, I got a head nod from a dude in a slammed Forester XT yesterday too. :lol:
Those were prolly his old wheels lol
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 21, 2017, 10:28:53 PM
Well I think it's funny just because if I were to get an Outback, the extra ground clearance would be the whole point. It seems less silly on a Legacy since the Legacy wasn't already raised from the factory, even though I'm assuming the same suspension kits can go on either model.
But I don't actually take issue with it. It just makes me :lol: a little.
This. I don't think it's bad. It just cracks me up. The original Outback was literally the Legacy with cosmetic changes and what, an inch or two extra height? A friend wanted one so badly it was the first time I'd heard of 8yr car loans. :confused: He didn't pull the trigger though.
About 3 years ago I was in Legacy when another Legacy (same generation) passed me. Cracked me up because I think he put the Outback suspension on but it just looked.... off. Maybe he even had an extra inch over an Outback.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 22, 2017, 02:19:38 AM
I threw my bicycle in the back and went riding after work with a friend. I've never done that before. :rockon:
Finally someone gets it. :lol:
We used to cram 2 bikes into this
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/SubaruDL_firstGen.jpg/800px-SubaruDL_firstGen.jpg)
Mine was a little darker tan, didn't have roofrack, and had 4 headlights in front. Those things were TINY.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on June 22, 2017, 05:17:08 AM
This. I don't think it's bad. It just cracks me up. The original Outback was literally the Legacy with cosmetic changes and what, an inch or two extra height?
The original Outback (1995) actually had no extra height oddly enough
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/wiscon_mark/LegacyFront2.jpg)
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 21, 2017, 10:28:53 PM
Well I think it's funny just because if I were to get an Outback, the extra ground clearance would be the whole point. It seems less silly on a Legacy since the Legacy wasn't already raised from the factory, even though I'm assuming the same suspension kits can go on either model.
But I don't actually take issue with it. It just makes me :lol: a little.
It's like lowering a Jeep Wrangler! :lol:
Quote from: 68_427 on June 22, 2017, 05:22:23 AM
The original Outback (1995) actually had no extra height oddly enough
Interesting! Was it 96 or 97 they added the clearance?
Congrats on the Subaru. :cheers:
I had no idea you were a lesbian. :devil: :devil: :devil:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 22, 2017, 02:19:38 AM
I threw my bicycle in the back and went riding after work with a friend. I've never done that before. :rockon:
Behold! The power of a utility vehicle. I think I'll always have a body on frame SUV from now on. It's too convenient to be able to haul people or things whenever.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on June 22, 2017, 07:04:38 AM
Interesting! Was it 96 or 97 they added the clearance?
'96... so only one year without the clearance :lol:
Notice the legacy bumper as well.
Quote from: 68_427 on June 22, 2017, 02:55:28 AM
Those were prolly his old wheels lol
Nah he was on the same wheels lol.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on June 22, 2017, 05:19:12 AM
Finally someone gets it. :lol:
We used to cram 2 bikes into this
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/SubaruDL_firstGen.jpg/800px-SubaruDL_firstGen.jpg)
Mine was a little darker tan, didn't have roofrack, and had 4 headlights in front. Those things were TINY.
:lol:
Yeah I had two bikes in there.
Quote from: 68_427 on June 22, 2017, 08:42:18 AM
'96... so only one year without the clearance :lol:
Notice the legacy bumper as well.
That's why I jumped on this one so fast. Only year that had the good bumper but with a 2.2 instead of the 2.5.
Quote from: MrH on June 22, 2017, 08:37:16 AM
Behold! The power of a utility vehicle. I think I'll always have a body on frame SUV from now on. It's too convenient to be able to haul people or things whenever.
Eh I'd rather have ever a wagon than an SUV. Just as practical while still having good driving dynamics. This car isn't much slower than the miata around corners on the street for the most part.
I hauled two bikes in my '96 Monte Carlo way back in the day. Granted, wheels had to come off and stuff, but it fit. Also transported my entire drum kit in that car multiple times.
Congrats! I'd keep my radio at a very low volume until I'm completely out of the the suburban town you're in. Otherwise someone's going to steal your stereo/speakers. It's gonna happen. Every kid I know when I was in high school and college who had aftermarket subwoofers had them stolen sooner or later. It's like flies to exposed sugar.
Daily commuting 20 miles each way in high traffic California on a motorcycle seems like a death wish. Very glad you only broke your collarbone and not your head/neck/spine/body.
Very sorry to probably sound like your old man. I like your new daily ride. Maybe dump the RX7. It's unlikely to be driven anytime in the next few years (my guess) and insurance isn't cheap. Plus driveway space. Once you're more financially well off and have your own house, garage, and driveway - then get another classic that you yearned for when you were a child.
Quote from: veeman on June 22, 2017, 12:51:34 PM
Congrats! I'd keep my radio at a very low volume until I'm completely out of the the suburban town you're in. Otherwise someone's going to steal your stereo/speakers. It's gonna happen. Every kid I know when I was in high school and college who had aftermarket subwoofers had them stolen sooner or later. It's like flies to exposed sugar.
Daily commuting 20 miles each way in high traffic California on a motorcycle seems like a death wish. Very glad you only broke your collarbone and not your head/neck/spine/body.
Very sorry to probably sound like your old man. I like your new daily ride. Maybe dump the RX7. It's unlikely to be driven anytime in the next few years (my guess) and insurance isn't cheap. Plus driveway space. Once you're more financially well off and have your own house, garage, and driveway - then get another classic that you yearned for when you were a child.
Thanks!
I don't listen to the volume super high so it generally isn't noticeable. Plus, I live in Palo Alto, land of the Teslas and BMW/MBs. I once left the key to my friend's RX7 in the hatch overnight and nothing happened. :mask: :lol:
I don't think anyone will want anything to do with my old cars. *knock on wood*
Also yeah, I got lucky that it was just my collarbone and that I healed so quickly. No physical therapy needed either.
And yeah, the RX7 will be for sale as soon as I can stop tinkering with the Subaru and fix it. I'd like a cleaner FB in the future.
Damn Cale made me buy transmission bushings. Such a bad influence. :lol:
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on June 22, 2017, 07:04:38 AM
Interesting! Was it 96 or 97 they added the clearance?
According to Wiki, 1996.
QuoteWhen the 1996 model year arrived, it gained more aggressive appearing front bumper covers, with larger rallye inspired driving lamps replacing the previously installed fog lights, taller tires with more aggressive tread, and a 7.8 in (198 mm) ground clearance, with a 7.87 in (200 mm) ground clearance in Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Legacy_(second_generation)#Outback
Got a lot of stuff done today.
Went to a friend's house and swapped end links, changed the transmission and differential fluids and tried my friend's WRX wheels on. Unfortunately, the WRX wheels didn't fit since they rub the coilovers but damn they look good:
(http://i.imgur.com/7Mj40Cq.jpg)
Random pics:
(http://i.imgur.com/BlfYyQw.jpg)
Front end links:
(http://i.imgur.com/jChiQiW.jpg)
vs stock:
(http://i.imgur.com/gdVZs9N.jpg)
Rear end links from the front of an Audi A4:
(http://i.imgur.com/f5GfkyM.jpg)
Then 3 friends and I cruised around town blasting music. Good day overall, till I checked the engine oil level and found out to be insanely overfilled. Went to Walmart and got oil on the way home and did an emergency oil change at 9PM. Thankfully I didn't have to jack the car up to drain the oil and replace the filter.
Off to the junkyard tomorrow morning to find more Outback/Legacy parts! :rockon:
Scored big today at the junkyard. There was a newer green Outback there so I ended up pulling the hood to get the scoop and to get rid of the shitty paint on my hood. I also tried to get the tail lights out but apparently they've got some sealant on them that made it impossible to pull the light out without cracking the lenses, so that was a no go. I also got some interior bits and a clean set of fog lights. :rockon:
The hood had a $5 core refund charge and the yard wouldn't let us work on the car in the parking lot, so I stuck the hood in the back of the car, and my friend and I drove to the local mall a mile away, parked in their lot, swapped hoods, and then drove back to the junkyard for the core refund. :lol:
I also updated the interior with some later Legacy bits. Fogs will get yellow Lamin-x and paint. :rockon:
This:
(http://i.imgur.com/M8q0Zdr.jpg)
to this:
(http://i.imgur.com/RbwegPN.jpg)
Also went from this:
(http://i.imgur.com/Oa8CRZk.jpg)
to this:
(http://i.imgur.com/pW3EaHI.jpg)
In the mall lot :lol: :
(http://i.imgur.com/WdCzgj1.jpg)
I think I'll take the paint off my headlights and go with tint
nice score!! those hoods were always boring.
A SUS grill would look good on your car
(http://i.imgur.com/aoSpsy7.png)
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on June 26, 2017, 05:24:09 AM
nice score!! those hoods were always boring.
Thanks!
Quote from: 68_427 on June 26, 2017, 05:29:12 AM
A SUS grill would look good on your car
(http://i.imgur.com/aoSpsy7.png)
I like this grille:
(http://www.designlabx.com/subaru/LGT/jdmlgt10.jpg)
Seeing the title of this thread I was SURE it had to be about Sporty's cars. #coilovernation
Anyway, congrats!
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 22, 2017, 10:08:36 AM
Eh I'd rather have ever a wagon than an SUV. Just as practical while still having good driving dynamics.
Except for outdoors/hiking stuff, I'd agree. I'd probably even be fine with an Outback or Forester. For the few times, you'd need to haul something taller, it'd be easier just to rent a truck from Home Depot or something.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 26, 2017, 12:49:37 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/RbwegPN.jpg)
Starting to look better.
When are you going to fix that 130 bhp problem? :huh:
Terbow!!
Is the clear coat peeling on the scooped hood or is that water?
I washed it. It's water, though some clear coat is peeling on the scoop.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on June 26, 2017, 11:03:36 AM
Seeing the title of this thread I was SURE it had to be about Sporty's cars. #coilovernation
Anyway, congrats!
:lol:
I'm the forum ricer. Sporty doesn't have shit on my poor choices. :devil:
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 26, 2017, 01:10:54 PM
Starting to look better.
When are you going to fix that 130 bhp problem? :huh:
It's really not that terrible. Maybe it'll be different with more people going up a mountain, but for now it's fine.
If 130bhp was enough when it came out, it should be enough now. Though I imagine age has taken at least 10 of those horses away. :devil: :lol:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 26, 2017, 09:58:27 AM
Thanks!
I like this grille:
(http://www.designlabx.com/subaru/LGT/jdmlgt10.jpg)
You can have this grill if you're ok with a gap between the bottom of the grill and the bumper
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7007/27277483241_e2e9687741_b.jpg)
I found a set of intact fog lights at the junkyard last weekend for $26. I also ordered some Lamin-X and painted the fog grilles and installed everything today.
I like it a lot more now:
(http://i.imgur.com/kLXmoyo.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/589i7CZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DkgzYMM.jpg)
I found a super clean bumper at the junkyard online, but when I went there today, someone had broken the shit out of it. :rage:
The rest of the pickings weren't that good, but I did get a taillight and windshield molding trim. I'm pretty amped with the fogs tho.
I didn't know you had a manual transmission. I'd love a new Outback with a manual tranny but alas... My Crosstrek has a 5 speed just like yours. The one complaint I have about my Crosstrek is that the engine RPM is too high around 70-80 mph. At 80 mph, it's around 3500 RPM which makes the car a bit noisy. It's not horrible but I wish it was geared a bit taller (although that would probably hurt acceleration) or it was a 6 speed (which would have solved everything). What RPM are you at 80 MPH?
Quote from: veeman on July 02, 2017, 08:27:53 AM
I didn't know you had a manual transmission. I'd love a new Outback with a manual tranny but alas... My Crosstrek has a 5 speed just like yours. The one complaint I have about my Crosstrek is that the engine RPM is too high around 70-80 mph. At 80 mph, it's around 3500 RPM which makes the car a bit noisy. It's not horrible but I wish it was geared a bit taller (although that would probably hurt acceleration) or it was a 6 speed (which would have solved everything). What RPM are you at 80 MPH?
That's typical of 4-cyl cars with MTs. They gear them that short so that cruise control has enough power on tap to be able to scale slight to moderate inclines without requiring a downshift (which cancels cruise). Automatics can downshift without cancelling cruise, so they can get away with taller top gear ratios.
Starting to look really nice. Just kidding about the bhp. If the engine is good, leave it alone for a while.
Quote from: MX793 on July 02, 2017, 08:33:12 AM
That's typical of 4-cyl cars with MTs. They gear them that short so that cruise control has enough power on tap to be able to scale slight to moderate inclines without requiring a downshift (which cancels cruise). Automatics can downshift without cancelling cruise, so they can get away with taller top gear ratios.
My Sonic isn't like that. GM wants you to actually use the gearbox to change gears
Quote from: MX793 on July 02, 2017, 08:33:12 AM
That's typical of 4-cyl cars with MTs. They gear them that short so that cruise control has enough power on tap to be able to scale slight to moderate inclines without requiring a downshift (which cancels cruise). Automatics can downshift without cancelling cruise, so they can get away with taller top gear ratios.
Ahhh.. that makes sense. But the Forester still comes with a manual option - a 6 speed. I'm sure at higher highway speeds in 6th gear it's at a lower RPM. At least I think it would be.
Quote from: 2o6 on July 02, 2017, 09:46:18 AM
My Sonic isn't like that. GM wants you to actually use the gearbox to change gears
Isn't your Sonic a turbo?
Quote from: MX793 on July 02, 2017, 10:04:57 AM
Isn't your Sonic a turbo?
Yes. (I also realize it's geared to stay out of boost/use boost effectively) But the very tall gearing is one of the best parts of the car.
Quote from: 2o6 on July 02, 2017, 10:12:22 AM
Yes. (I also realize it's geared to stay out of boost/use boost effectively) But the very tall gearing is one of the best parts of the car.
Turbo also makes more torque at lower RPMs, meaning you don't need to rev it as high to pull an incline.
That said, the 1.8L 5MT Sonics appear to be geared slightly taller than the turbos, which is surprising to me. Turbo Cruzes were geared slightly taller than the 1.8L models.
Quote from: MX793 on July 02, 2017, 10:43:21 AM
Turbo also makes more torque at lower RPMs, meaning you don't need to rev it as high to pull an incline.
That said, the 1.8L 5MT Sonics appear to be geared slightly taller than the turbos, which is surprising to me. Turbo Cruzes were geared slightly taller than the 1.8L models.
Which set of gear ratios are you looking at? The RS model cars are geared shorter than the other 6MT cars (with a 4.18 final drive). My car has the 6MT, and the final drive ratio is taller than the Turbo Cruze and and Cruze Eco. (3.64 for my car).
The 1.8L is geared at (3.94) and even 5th is shorter than my 6th.
Quote from: 2o6 on July 02, 2017, 11:19:25 AM
Which set of gear ratios are you looking at? The RS model cars are geared shorter than the other 6MT cars (with a 4.18 final drive). My car has the 6MT, and the final drive ratio is taller than the Turbo Cruze and and Cruze Eco. (3.64 for my car).
The 1.8L is geared at (3.94) and even 5th is shorter than my 6th.
I was looking at the RS. Couldn't seem to find gearing for a non-RS 6MT turbo.
Quote from: MX793 on July 02, 2017, 11:28:26 AM
I was looking at the RS. Couldn't seem to find gearing for a non-RS 6MT turbo.
Yeah RS cars are geared very short. It's also why they're like a second quicker than my car, but they're 6MPG worse on the freeway.
For the Record, my car and the Cruze ECO have the same ratios, but the final drive is taller in my car. (3.64, versus 3.83 for the Cruze ECO)
Quote from: veeman on July 02, 2017, 08:27:53 AM
I didn't know you had a manual transmission. I'd love a new Outback with a manual tranny but alas... My Crosstrek has a 5 speed just like yours. The one complaint I have about my Crosstrek is that the engine RPM is too high around 70-80 mph. At 80 mph, it's around 3500 RPM which makes the car a bit noisy. It's not horrible but I wish it was geared a bit taller (although that would probably hurt acceleration) or it was a 6 speed (which would have solved everything). What RPM are you at 80 MPH?
I think mine is somewhere around there as well. The only problem right now is that 75 on the car is like 80 actual according to my phone. I'll need to try with another phone to confirm, but I'm thinking about going with smaller tires next time around to get the speedo to be more accurate.
I'm not sure why it's so off... stock size is 205/70/15 and I have 205/60/16 right now, which should be 2.3% smaller than stock...
I just want to rant a little...
Why the fuck did Subaru decide to essentially glue the tail lights in? Jesus Christ. Not only is it a bitch to even get to the nuts holding the tail light in, but once those are off, you have to pry the tail light out and fight against the metric fuck ton of silicone sealant they stuck between the light and the body. I was somehow able to pull a light off a junkyard car, but destroyed my already broken light trying to pull it off my car. It might be due to me pulling the junkyard light off during the day when it's a lot hotter than trying to do this shit at night.
I still have to clean the tail light and body of the car but I got pissed and just left it. I also installed my new aux/USB ports in the interior.
(http://i.imgur.com/4PHFnKs.jpg)
LOL that's crazy. Sorry d00d!
Are you sure the silicone was a factory job and the previous owner didn't just goop it because they were getting water in the tail lights?
Also, the properties of silicone don't change drastically over naturally occurring summer temperatures in North America. You'd have to chill it to well below 0F (properties are often rated to -50 or colder), or heat it to well over 400F, before you noticed its properties changing.
Quote from: MX793 on July 03, 2017, 08:01:35 AM
Are you sure the silicone was a factory job and the previous owner didn't just goop it because they were getting water in the tail lights?
Also, the properties of silicone don't change drastically over naturally occurring summer temperatures in North America. You'd have to chill it to well below 0F (properties are often rated to -50 or colder), or heat it to well over 400F, before you noticed its properties changing.
Yeah, I broke several tail lights at the junkyard trying to pry them off due to the sealant. I just practiced on already broken ones before trying it on a good one to actually buy. Reading online also confirms that there is sealant, and the lights have a little channel to apply sealant. The factory service manual also just says to use a screwdriver to pry the lights out after removing the nuts. :facepalm: :lol:
I'm surprised the silicone doesn't soften with heat. I hit some of the remaining sealant on the body of the car with the heat gun and it did get very gooey and sticky. I'm trying to figure out how to best clean this crap off without damaging the paint underneath.
Get yourself a plastic razor scraper.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 03, 2017, 10:43:42 AM
Yeah, I broke several tail lights at the junkyard trying to pry them off due to the sealant. I just practiced on already broken ones before trying it on a good one to actually buy. Reading online also confirms that there is sealant, and the lights have a little channel to apply sealant. The factory service manual also just says to use a screwdriver to pry the lights out after removing the nuts. :facepalm: :lol:
I'm surprised the silicone doesn't soften with heat. I hit some of the remaining sealant on the body of the car with the heat gun and it did get very gooey and sticky. I'm trying to figure out how to best clean this crap off without damaging the paint underneath.
It's probably not silicone if you can soften it without getting it hot enough to badly burn your hands in handling. Silicone is well known for its ability to tolerate high temperatures (you can get silicone baking trays and sheets) without melting or breaking down.
I'd try a solvent like kerosene. If it is silicone-based, a petroleum solvent should attack it.
WD 40 worked pretty well to get rid of the sealant.
(http://i.imgur.com/n2FhL15.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/UK8PQW1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JNqrWtA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wZiI3H2.jpg)
And my interior USB/aux plug:
(http://i.imgur.com/v8mkqVv.jpg)
looks clean
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 03, 2017, 02:18:26 PM
WD 40 worked pretty well to get rid of the sealant.
(http://i.imgur.com/v8mkqVv.jpg)
What kind of functionality do you have with that screen?
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 03, 2017, 04:49:30 PM
What kind of functionality do you have with that screen?
It can play DVD movies. :lol:
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 03, 2017, 04:59:17 PM
So, no nav?
Nope.
I also can never seem to leave anything alone.
(http://i.imgur.com/QQcInYX.jpg)
y does car have big plastic blanket?
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 04, 2017, 06:04:25 AM
y does car have big plastic blanket?
That's his new vinyl wrap. He still needs to hit it with the heat gun to get it to shrink down onto the car.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 04, 2017, 02:24:11 AM
Nope.
I also can never seem to leave anything alone.
(http://i.imgur.com/QQcInYX.jpg)
What are you doing now? :confused:
Quote from: MX793 on July 04, 2017, 06:25:11 AM
That's his new vinyl wrap. He still needs to hit it with the heat gun to get it to shrink down onto the car.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: veeman on July 02, 2017, 08:27:53 AM
I didn't know you had a manual transmission. I'd love a new Outback with a manual tranny but alas... My Crosstrek has a 5 speed just like yours. The one complaint I have about my Crosstrek is that the engine RPM is too high around 70-80 mph. At 80 mph, it's around 3500 RPM which makes the car a bit noisy. It's not horrible but I wish it was geared a bit taller (although that would probably hurt acceleration) or it was a 6 speed (which would have solved everything). What RPM are you at 80 MPH?
Obviously S2000 isn't designed to be a highway cruiser, but it's at 4k RPM at 75 mph in 6th. :lol:
Is that USB Port hardwired to the deck?
Quote from: MX793 on July 04, 2017, 06:25:11 AM
That's his new vinyl wrap. He still needs to hit it with the heat gun to get it to shrink down onto the car.
:clap:
Well played.
The previous owner was an idiot and rolled the fenders, which would have been fine if he had used a heat gun to warm up the paint first. Since he didn't all the paint cracked off, exposing all the metal underneath, which started rusting slightly. Since this car will see snow, I painted all the fender arches with a rust inhibitor and then hit it with color matched spray paint. It looks pretty bad, but anything looks better than rust. It's not like the rest of the car body is in great condition anyways.
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on July 04, 2017, 09:59:23 AM
Is that USB Port hardwired to the deck?
Yep!
Quote from: BimmerM3 on July 04, 2017, 09:22:01 AM
Obviously S2000 isn't designed to be a highway cruiser, but it's at 4k RPM at 75 mph in 6th. :lol:
That's what my Outback turns. Man it's gonna guzzle fuel with the H6 (possibly with a turbo)
And I feel bad turning 3.5k at 80
Quote from: 68_427 on July 04, 2017, 11:34:06 AM
That's what my Outback turns. Man it's gonna guzzle fuel with the H6 (possibly with a turbo)
You're keeping the stock transmission?
I'm surprised it mates to the H6
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 04, 2017, 11:44:47 AM
And I feel bad turning 3.5k at 80
I'm turning almost 7k at 80 so...
:lol:
Quote from: SVT_Power on July 04, 2017, 11:45:54 AM
You're keeping the stock transmission?
I'm surprised it mates to the H6
Bolts right up. Uses stock engine mounts, flywheel, clutch, and tranny.
God dammit. I bent a bushing bracket on the transmission crossmember by trying to be lazy and skip steps.
Now the car has to sit on jack stands with the jack holding up the transmission while I wait till tomorrow to get another bracket from the dealership. FML.
Quote from: MX793 on July 04, 2017, 06:25:11 AM
That's his new vinyl wrap. He still needs to hit it with the heat gun to get it to shrink down onto the car.
I thought it was a giant condom because this car is going to be screwed by the time he gets done with it. :winkguy:
LOL
Transmission bushings are installed! Both dealerships near me didn't have the brackets in stock, which is surprising given that same bracket has been used on manual transmission Subarus for the past 20 years. I ended up going to the junkyard again and pulled one off an Outback there. Came back and got everything bolted back up, thankfully. I still haven't driven the car yet but hopefully it still works. :mask:
Phew. Car runs fine so far. *knock on wood*
Oh snap
(http://i.imgur.com/aaUqINc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/M2yFHkV.jpg)
:wub:
Still hauling massive amounts of luggage I see
I want to see that front plate melded into the bumper, not hanging below it. Like crease it and bend it so it wraps the bumper creases and bumper curves, mounted right below the grille :mrcool:
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on July 07, 2017, 01:38:25 PM
I want to see that front plate melded into the bumper, not hanging below it. Like crease it and bend it so it wraps the bumper creases and bumper curves, mounted right below the grille :mrcool:
Or where mine was
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8856/28293284414_ce36334d04_b.jpg)
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on July 07, 2017, 01:38:25 PM
I want to see that front plate melded into the bumper, not hanging below it. Like crease it and bend it so it wraps the bumper creases and bumper curves, mounted right below the grille :mrcool:
Mine was bent all the way into the bumper but I figured I'd probably get pulled over for not being visible. It is pretty ugly though.
If I wasn't lowered, I wouldn't have been able to park here:
(http://i.imgur.com/34V6cj2.jpg)
See? Lowering is functional!
Key for scale:
(http://i.imgur.com/A2zvG16.jpg)
:lol:
:muffin:
So what's in the rocket box?
Quote from: Rupert on July 08, 2017, 12:35:33 PM
So what's in the rocket box?
Spare parts. Subie Parts, Miata, Parts, RX7 parts...
Quote from: Rupert on July 08, 2017, 12:35:33 PM
So what's in the rocket box?
Ringlands, head gaskets, and spare 5 speeds
You can put the box inside the car...... :huh:
Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 08, 2017, 01:20:04 PM
Spare parts. Subie Parts, Miata, Parts, RX7 parts...
I would love that. :lol:
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on July 08, 2017, 07:14:31 PM
You can put the box inside the car...... :huh:
So... you're saying to turn my 5 seat practical wagon into a 2 seater by putting the box inside? :wtf: :nutty:
Picked up a bumper from the junkyard for $30 yesterday.
Now my bumper isn't all broken and gross.
Before:
(http://i.imgur.com/aJUSVah.jpg)
After:
(http://i.imgur.com/uy7dkTR.jpg)
The dumb car was fighting me the whole day yesterday, though. I ended up replacing the steering rack bushings because I thought that was the cause of my alignment problems (still don't know), but the new bushings were so much thicker and stiffer than the old shitty bushings that the steering rack didn't want to go back in after installing the bushings. I ended up stripping one of the chassis holes that holds the rack in. Luckily I went to a friends house today and we drilled and tapped a new hole and installed a bigger bolt so it's all good again.
I also might have put the steering rack back on the column a bit crooked because the wheel isn't straight anymore. I'll have to get it aligned first and if that doesn't fix it I'll have to pull and straighten the steering wheel instead. Sigh.
Oh, and for those of you shitting on the top box, it works great for holding oily pans:
(http://i.imgur.com/AqLa9iP.jpg)
:lol:
Better than getting oil all up in the cargo area. I transported a rear diff for somebody in my trunk once and the stink of the little bit of diff fluid that seeped out never went away.
Is this why you can't drive your Miata anymore? It's shameful what you did to your hardtop.
(https://i.redd.it/x3yofnjbtdaz.png)
Damn. I've been caught. :lol:
Is this the front?
(https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/18950321_1538145346230768_968992854460334080_n.jpg)
Decided to be dumb today and swapped the ball joints after work instead of going to the gym. That was a bitch of a job.
Bluetooth is in!
(http://i.imgur.com/sTDnizo.jpg)
Unfortunately I lost 2 screws and a clip when trying to reassemble the stereo (fell into the depths of the dash) so I'm going to the junkyard again to grab those pieces. :facepalm: :lol:
Also bought a new rear seat back for the headrests. It doesn't match the rest of the car but at least people will stop bitching about the lack of headrests now.
(http://i.imgur.com/arzmJcs.jpg)
Oh, and installed the Lamin-x on my corners!
(http://i.imgur.com/4iQXhf5.jpg)
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 22, 2017, 12:19:37 AM
Decided to be dumb today and swapped the ball joints after work instead of going to the gym. That was a bitch of a job.
Probably a workout in itself. hah
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 23, 2017, 07:59:14 PM
Probably a workout in itself. hah
Lol yep. It was made worse by the fact that I was using a lighter deadblow hammer on the pickle fork to separate the ball joint. I got frustrated after about 15 minutes of swinging the deadblow hammer and used a sledgehammer instead and got the ball joint out after 3 swings. :lol:
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41lwbgZWd%2BL._SX300_.jpg)
Fork is cheaper. :lol:
So, car has been running perfectly up till now.
I go to start the car today, and it's misfiring and has a CEL on. I plug in my scangauge, and it's not showing any codes, but the CEL is on and car runs like shit. I checked the oil after letting the car sit for 5-10 min and it's just above the Low mark. When I checked it last (2 weeks ago?) it was at the Full mark.
Coolant also looks lower than I remember, but it's at the Full mark on the tank, there's no oil in it, and doesn't look like there's coolant in the oil, and there's no leaks on the driveway. I'm not sure if it's the headgasket as it's never overheated though so I'm not sure.
I need to figure out what the code is. I thought headgasket stuff would have different symptoms...
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 31, 2017, 11:53:15 AM
So, car has been running perfectly up till now.
I go to start the car today, and it's misfiring and has a CEL on. I plug in my scangauge, and it's not showing any codes, but the CEL is on and car runs like shit. I checked the oil after letting the car sit for 5-10 min and it's just above the Low mark. When I checked it last (2 weeks ago?) it was at the Full mark.
Coolant also looks lower than I remember, but it's at the Full mark on the tank, there's no oil in it, and doesn't look like there's coolant in the oil, and there's no leaks on the driveway. I'm not sure if it's the headgasket as it's never overheated though so I'm not sure.
I need to figure out what the code is. I thought headgasket stuff would have different symptoms...
CEL light on- should be codes in the PCM memory. Does misfire clear up after it runs for a while?
Quote from: shp4man on July 31, 2017, 12:14:12 PM
CEL light on- should be codes in the PCM memory. Does misfire clear up after it runs for a while?
My scangauge did not read anything. I will blow the obd port out with compressed air and try with a different scanner. I just bought one on Amazon.
I didn't run the car or touch the gas, just turned it back off, so I don't know. That does have me wondering though, it could be shitty gas? I went to some random station on Saturday, filled up, drove the car a bit and then parked it. Last time I got shitty gas was when I was riding my CBR600, and that thing also would start and run like shit (if it started), but then cleared up after that tank.
That happens these days? I've never had shitty gas from a station. Or at least not shitty enough to cause an issue. lol
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 31, 2017, 01:22:32 PM
That happens these days? I've never had shitty gas from a station. Or at least not shitty enough to cause an issue. lol
It's happened to me before, and given that there's a full tank of gas in it now from a station I've never been to before (same scenario as with my F4i), I feel like there might be a chance.
I just checked the oil last night - it was about halfway full, so it did go down from a bit below the full mark to halfway. The seller did say it leaked oil at the valve covers and that it needed to be filled up between oil changes, so I'm thinking it's just leaks, not really burning oil.
Either way, new VC gaskets, spark plugs and wires are on the way. Only problem is I'm not getting this stuff till next week...
I'm getting the scanner tomorrow. Hopefully it'll work and I can see what's wrong with the car. I'm thinking either bad spark plugs or bad injectors at this point.
Coil pack?
Quote from: FoMoJo on August 01, 2017, 12:53:40 PM
Coil pack?
Maybe a dumb question, but if it was the coil pack that was bad, wouldn't the car just not turn on?
Quote from: Cookie Monster on August 01, 2017, 12:54:57 PM
Maybe a dumb question, but if it was the coil pack that was bad, wouldn't the car just not turn on?
I should ask, does it have coil packs for each cylinder?
Quote from: FoMoJo on August 01, 2017, 12:55:58 PM
I should ask, does it have coil packs for each cylinder?
Nah, it's the thing in the center the blue plug wires are connected to. It's one unit. I'm not sure if just one piece of that could fail, causing one cylinder to not fire, but that doesn't seem likely.
(http://engineswork.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/subaru-ej22-engine.jpg)
A cars cooling system runs about 16psi after warm up. When you turn the car off when you get home , that 16 psi is still in the cooling system. Overnight, with a leaking head gasket, coolant contaminates the combustion chamber and shorts out the spark plug, causing a misfire. Eventually, the plug will clear, and the cylinder will start firing again.
I just assumed individual coil packs. Not sure how that works.
Quote from: shp4man on August 01, 2017, 01:06:40 PM
A cars cooling system runs about 16psi after warm up. When you turn the car off when you get home , that 16 psi is still in the cooling system. Overnight, with a leaking head gasket, coolant contaminates the combustion chamber and shorts out the spark plug, causing a misfire. Eventually, the plug will clear, and the cylinder will start firing again.
Why do you think it's a bad head gasket when the coolant level is still full and the coolant and oil aren't contaminated? (genuinely asking)
Is there any way to tell if the plug has shorted out? Will it just look too clean or something?
Quote from: Cookie Monster on August 01, 2017, 01:09:32 PM
Why do you think it's a bad head gasket when the coolant level is still full and the coolant and oil aren't contaminated? (genuinely asking)
Is there any way to tell if the plug has shorted out? Will it just look too clean or something?
Common issue with subies. Does the car stop misfiring after awhile?
Quote from: shp4man on August 01, 2017, 01:14:44 PM
Common issue with subies. Does the car stop misfiring after awhile?
Head gasket isn't a common issue on EJ22's, though.
I haven't turned the car back on since it started misfiring. I didn't even touch the gas, just turned it on, felt it misfiring, saw the CEL, and then turned it back off.
Not to mention, I haven't seen any of the telltale signs of headgasket or even oil consumption issues. No smoke out of the tail pipe, no over heating (even on hotter days with A/C on), no contaminated oil/coolant, etc.
Cheap copper plugs go out every 20-30k miles, right?
Did the car misfire on cold startup? Go start it now, see if it misfires. Let it run 4 or 5 minutes, it won't hurt it. If it starts making a loud knocking noise, turn it off. :lol:
Quote from: shp4man on August 01, 2017, 01:29:43 PM
Did the car misfire on cold startup? Go start it now, see if it misfires. Let it run 4 or 5 minutes, it won't hurt it. If it starts making a loud knocking noise, turn it off. :lol:
Yes, misfiring on cold startup. I haven't driven it at all, been using my dad's car or the Miata to get to work.
I'd rather it doesn't get to the loud knocking noise part. :lol:
Have you pulled the plugs?
I'd just wait till the stuff comes in the mail and see if that fixes it. It's possible that the coil is going out - my mom's Mazda6 had a bad coil that caused a misfire in one cylinder. But I'd try the plug wires first.
I'll probably pull the plugs tonight if there's still some light out when I get home. Replacing the plugs and wires will be a bigger job though since I want to replace the valve cover gaskets at the same time.
If the plugs look bad I'll try and clean them this weekend and see if I can get some more life out of them before replacing everything next weekend. Unfortunately all of the new parts are only coming next week.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on August 01, 2017, 01:32:48 PM
Yes, misfiring on cold startup. I haven't driven it at all, been using my dad's car or the Miata to get to work.
I'd rather it doesn't get to the loud knocking noise part. :lol:
I drove mine like that and paid for a new engine in 2012. Mechanic said those used to be cheap but prices were going up at that point.
Mine's not knocking, though. It just sounds like it has unequal length headers. Sounds pretty good actually. :lol:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on August 02, 2017, 02:05:40 PM
Mine's not knocking, though. It just sounds like it has unequal length headers. Sounds pretty good actually. :lol:
I got a CEL then kept driving it some, then it did start knocking. :cry:
Code shows it's a bad fuel injector. I'm going to get all 4 injectors and rails out of a junkyard car this weekend.
The o rings needed are the pricey part. I think it's like $20/injector for the o rings, since there are 2 on each. There is only 1 on the end of each rail, though, so I'll just sack up and pay the $18 at the dealership for the two needed (hopefully they have them :mask: ).
Since I already bought spark plugs and wires and valve cover gaskets, I'll do those this weekend too, along with a new air filter. The car should be running pretty nicely after this. :rockon:
Sweet!
Quote from: Cookie Monster on August 02, 2017, 08:34:12 PM
Code shows it's a bad fuel injector. I'm going to get all 4 injectors and rails out of a junkyard car this weekend.
The o rings needed are the pricey part. I think it's like $20/injector for the o rings, since there are 2 on each. There is only 1 on the end of each rail, though, so I'll just sack up and pay the $18 at the dealership for the two needed (hopefully they have them :mask: ).
Since I already bought spark plugs and wires and valve cover gaskets, I'll do those this weekend too, along with a new air filter. The car should be running pretty nicely after this. :rockon:
If I were you I'd get new injectors. They're cheap on Ebay! Got one for the Vette for $25! I'm pretty sure yours are as cheap or cheaper.....
(http://i.imgur.com/lOF3xYJ.jpg)
LOL!
That was basically the Miata.
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on August 03, 2017, 02:16:13 PM
If I were you I'd get new injectors. They're cheap on Ebay! Got one for the Vette for $25! I'm pretty sure yours are as cheap or cheaper.....
Nah it's like $100 for a used set on eBay. :cry:
Remanufactured non OEM ones are $45+. New Subaru ones are $110 each.
Then again, your pooprod probably doesn't need the vast amount of flow my EJ22 does. :devil:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on August 04, 2017, 09:26:01 PM
Nah it's like $100 for a used set on eBay. :cry:
Remanufactured non OEM ones are $45+. New Subaru ones are $110 each.
Then again, your pooprod probably doesn't need the vast amount of flow my EJ22 does. :devil:
:shakesfist:
Welp, what was supposed to be an injector replacement turned out to me replacing the spark plugs, wires, air filter, passenger side fuel rail, fuel filter and valve cover gaskets. :lol:
I got the wrong injectors at the junkyard yesterday. I thought all EJ22/25s used the same injectors so I grabbed some off of a 2.5L car at the junkyard. Turns out that's not the case, so I had to go back today again. Also, the aftermarket injector o ring kits I bought on amazon weren't what I needed, so I just bought an entire rail today so I wouldn't have to replace the o rings (just needed to replace one o ring instead).
Plugs and wires I did because they were right there after removing so much other stuff to get to the valve covers, which I did because they leaked so much. Same with the air filter. Since it had to come out anyway, I figured I'd just replace it. I replaced the fuel filter in case the old one was bad and caused the injector to fail. I also had to replace some fuel tubing since it was so old and crusty.
The car runs so much smoother now. I feel like it has more power, and hopefully my MPGs go up as well. I still need to replace the PCV hoses since they are pretty crusty, but that wasn't as pressing as the other stuff so I've left that for another day.
Hopefully the car doesn't blow up after all my driveway mechanics. :mask:
CEL gone?
Yep, no more CEL. Just waiting to burn through this tank of gas so I can put in the fuel injector cleaner stuff. It might be snake oil, but I'm hoping it'll help.
Just bought tie rods. I want to make sure the front end is good to go before I put coilovers on and get this thing aligned.
Also bought a master cylinder brace just for the blings. :lol:
Went camping the last two days. The Subaru took 4 people + all their stuff (+we took way too much stuff :lol: ).
(http://i.imgur.com/MqOlTgp.jpg)
Who said the top box is useless? :praise:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on August 13, 2017, 12:36:10 PM
Went camping the last two days. The Subaru took 4 people + all their stuff (+we took way too much stuff :lol: ).
(http://i.imgur.com/MqOlTgp.jpg)
Who said the top box is useless? :praise:
Always handy to fit an extra passenger :huh:.
Nice!
(Odyssey camping fits even more stuff) :mask:
Pfft, Odyssey doesn't even have AWD or sweet coilovers to rip around corners.
Speaking of coilovers, I wanted to see if the car would rub anywhere at this height loaded down with stuff. It was fine. My new coilovers will be a bit stiffer (but hopefully ride better thanks to better dampers) so I can run this height while going skiing. :rockon:
New tires, coilovers and alignment done! The car handles so much better now and all the clunks and suspension issues I had before are gone.
I also painted the hood scoop.
(http://i.imgur.com/BboUZVw.jpg)
The car is an absolute blast on downhill twisty roads.
Still on the old tires?
Ayee.... it's early LOL
The stock seats sucked on this car... Too flat, no supports, etc. I found a pair of WRX seats on a Facebook group for a decent price and drove 135 miles each way to get them.
(http://i.imgur.com/PIwq8NN.jpg)
I need to pull the seat heaters out of the stock seats and somehow put them in the WRX seats and sew up a small tear on the driver's side bolster but otherwise I'm super happy with them.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 05, 2017, 10:15:07 AM
The stock seats sucked on this car... Too flat, no supports, etc. I found a pair of WRX seats on a Facebook group for a decent price and drove 135 miles each way to get them.
I need to pull the seat heaters out of the stock seats and somehow put them in the WRX seats and sew up a small tear on the driver's side bolster but otherwise I'm super happy with them.
Did you drive 135 miles each way for each seat?
24.7 mpg from that last tank.
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/138/246/tumblr_lltzgnHi5F1qzib3wo1_400.jpg)
4 people (and a dog) + a ton of fire wood all fit for camping this weekend. :wub:
(http://i.imgur.com/8KCZ9y7.jpg)
Thinking about picking up some snow tires for the coming ski season. I've already bought my ski pass.
How do you not have some massive and tacky looking bright red rally armor mudflaps??
Damn, rally armor doesn't sell flaps for my car but I did find some red ones. :mask:
Check Tractor Supply for bulk sheets of rubber material. Or something like this.
http://www.rallylights.com/mfmat-mud-flap-material-black-or-red-per-square-foot.html
23.2 mpg out of this tank, fully loaded with people and gear and driving WOT for a lot of it trying to make it up mountains.
notbad.jpg again.
That being said, this car really needs at least an extra 30-50 hp. I had to downshift into 4th (and sometimes 3rd) every time there was an incline, and passing was pretty much impossible since a lot of times I wouldn't even be able to do the speed limit.
I'm tempted to do a 2.5L swap down the line. Ideally I'd do a flat 6 swap but I don't know how and it won't get passed smog here.
How often do you run fully loaded, though? It's built for it, embrace it.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 11, 2017, 09:10:58 PM
23.2 mpg out of this tank, fully loaded with people and gear and driving WOT for a lot of it trying to make it up mountains.
notbad.jpg again.
That being said, this car really needs at least an extra 30-50 hp. I had to downshift into 4th (and sometimes 3rd) every time there was an incline, and passing was pretty much impossible since a lot of times I wouldn't even be able to do the speed limit.
I'm tempted to do a 2.5L swap down the line. Ideally I'd do a flat 6 swap but I don't know how and it won't get passed smog here.
turrbow or H6 or go home
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on September 12, 2017, 07:27:11 AM
turrbow or H6 or go home
You want to get the car past CA smog for me?
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 12, 2017, 01:04:04 PM
You want to get the car past CA smog for me?
You can use my address in KY
Or South Dakota like me lol
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 11, 2017, 09:21:44 PM
How often do you run fully loaded, though? It's built for it, embrace it.
True, it's not a problem when it's unloaded and I'm just commuting in it, but I'm hoping to go skiing at least a few times a month...
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 12, 2017, 02:21:51 PM
True, it's not a problem when it's unloaded and I'm just commuting in it, but I'm hoping to go skiing at least a few times a month...
More power just means more tire spin in the snow. Low power and lots of weight = mega traction. :lol:
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 12, 2017, 02:44:44 PM
More power just means more tire spin in the snow. Low power and lots of weight = mega traction. :lol:
How will I do mad skids in the snow though?
I just want to go skiing at this point to drive the car in the snow to prove my friends wrong that my car will get stuck since it's low. I CAN'T WAIT.
JDM WRX swap. Need boost at altitude
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 13, 2017, 06:35:53 AM
JDM WRX swap. Need boost at altitude
I want an EJ207 to go with my V7 STI wheels. :lol:
Biggest things are wiring and smog. AFAIK everything in the EJ/EG series should just bolt straight up to my chassis and transmission, but getting the thing running properly is the biggest hurdle.
I could see it getting somewhat expensive quickly. You would probably need a tune and a decent cat.
Your DD will no longer be a DD.
You're going to need another DD :lol:
My rule: DD gets no mods that can't be completed in a day. And no engine mods.
Quote from: MrH on September 13, 2017, 10:38:41 AM
You're going to need another DD :lol:
My rule: DD gets no mods that can't be completed in a day. And no engine mods.
I think a regular EJ25 can be swapped in a day. Basically everything bolts right up.
Cams + ITBs bruh. Street tune
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 12, 2017, 01:04:04 PM
You want to get the car past CA smog for me?
NOPE, I don't live in counties that do emissions. :mrcool:
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on September 13, 2017, 08:47:28 PM
NOPE, I don't live in counties that do emissions. :mrcool:
You don't live in NY anymore?
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on September 13, 2017, 08:47:28 PM
NOPE, I don't live in counties that do emissions. :mrcool:
Don't you live somewhere where it's flat and boring? I'll take my emissions and miles of fun, twisty roads and mountains over that boring place.
Quote from: 68_427 on September 13, 2017, 09:37:44 PM
You don't live in NY anymore?
Upstate NY. And in Utah, SC, GA, TN, lived in counties that didn't require emissions. Oh and all of Wyoming. ;)
Just that forsaken MD time period did we have to worry about it.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 13, 2017, 09:44:22 PM
Don't you live somewhere where it's flat and boring? I'll take my emissions and miles of fun, twisty roads and mountains over that boring place.
Yes. :cry:
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on September 14, 2017, 06:21:14 AM
Yes. :cry:
You're not far from the mountains. There are also a bunch of winding back roads along the river and lakes not far from there.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on September 14, 2017, 06:20:55 AM
Upstate NY. And in Utah, SC, GA, TN, lived in counties that didn't require emissions. Oh and all of Wyoming. ;)
Just that forsaken MD time period did we have to worry about it.
All of NY requires emissions testing
Maybe he's exempt cuz military?
Quote from: 68_427 on September 14, 2017, 06:59:20 AM
All of NY requires emissions testing
They plugged into the OBD port and called it good. :huh:
I have NY plates with no military advantages.
Quote from: MX793 on September 14, 2017, 06:41:31 AM
You're not far from the mountains. There are also a bunch of winding back roads along the river and lakes not far from there.
Yeah, just need a fun car. :cry:
Wife's car is better than van but I hate weak 4pots with slushie transmissions. And it's definitely not a road-hugger, sits up a little too high.
(And no, there's NO WAY she would want it lowered or modded.)
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on September 14, 2017, 04:39:17 PM
They plugged into the OBD port and called it good. :huh:
I have NY plates with no military advantages.
That is the emissions testing. It's just not a sniffer test... yet
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on September 14, 2017, 04:40:29 PM
Yeah, just need a fun car. :cry:
Wife's car is better than van but I hate weak 4pots with slushie transmissions. And it's definitely not a road-hugger, sits up a little too high.
(And no, there's NO WAY she would want it lowered or modded.)
So you do understand :praise:
Quote from: MrH on September 13, 2017, 10:38:41 AM
You're going to need another DD :lol:
My rule: DD gets no mods that can't be completed in a day. And no engine mods.
WORD!
Quote from: 68_427 on September 14, 2017, 05:47:02 PM
That is the emissions testing. It's just not a sniffer test... yet
that's no test. Easy to beat. MD puts a hose on your car on rollers and drives it.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on September 15, 2017, 04:13:38 AM
that's no test. Easy to beat. MD puts a hose on your car on rollers and drives it.
The plug test is not as easy to beat as you think. (I'm talking engine swap type conditions like Rags mentioned. Not I have an evap leak I'll reset my readiness monitors)
Plug test is about as simple as it gets... Just turn off/mask all of the trouble parameters
Quote from: r0tor on September 15, 2017, 06:10:30 AM
Plug test is about as simple as it gets... Just turn off/mask all of the trouble parameters
I don't know if that works here. If you turn off something like the o2 sensor, it might not show as "ready", which is what they're looking for.
To pass California emissions test, there can be no fault codes in the PCM, all readiness tests must be clear except evaporative, and all aftermarket parts on the engine must have an EO number that says it was tested by CARB. No parts can be missing (like catalysts). Engine swaps to a different vintage or size engine have to go to a "referee" for approval.
Current cut off date for smog test is 1975.
It's amusing to see the price difference between a '75 Vette and a '76 Vette in Craigslist. ;)
I heard you could get away with a stock 2.5L swap in a 2.2 since they only offered the 2.2 in 1-2 years of the Outback. If not, I could just get it BAR'ed. That wouldn't be too hard since I could just say I needed a new engine anyways and put a bone stock one back in. :huh:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 15, 2017, 10:02:57 AM
I don't know if that works here. If you turn off something like the o2 sensor, it might not show as "ready", which is what they're looking for.
Same here. A couple of years ago, I failed my inspection because I had just pulled the car out of storage, with battery disconnected, and not everything was showing status due to only driving like 8 miles since reconnecting the battery. Had to do a little 50 mile joy ride and then return the next day.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 15, 2017, 10:37:13 AM
I heard you could get away with a stock 2.5L swap in a 2.2 since they only offered the 2.2 in 1-2 years of the Outback. If not, I could just get it BAR'ed. That wouldn't be too hard since I could just say I needed a new engine anyways and put a bone stock one back in. :huh:
If it looks stock and has the same emissions equipment, it would probably pass.
Quote from: MX793 on September 15, 2017, 10:38:40 AM
Same here. A couple of years ago, I failed my inspection because I had just pulled the car out of storage, with battery disconnected, and not everything was showing status due to only driving like 8 miles since reconnecting the battery. Had to do a little 50 mile joy ride and then return the next day.
Yeah, every time I swap headers to get my car smogged, I have to get the sensors all ready, which can take forever (there's a certain driving style needed to hit the different sensors).
So it sounds like NY is the same as CA (which isn't surprising because NY has the second most stringent emissions laws after CA, IIRC), so Autobahn has smog AND lives in a boring place to drive. :lol:
Quote from: shp4man on September 15, 2017, 10:39:03 AM
If it looks stock and has the same emissions equipment, it would probably pass.
I'm sure my car would pass the sniffer OK with a 2.5. Hell, my catless NC would probably pass the sniffer if it needed it. It's just visual I'm worried about, if the shop even notices or cares that the 2.2 was replaced with a 2.5.
Same story with the few counties in OH that do it.
Amazingly, my Neon passed with an empty cat.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 15, 2017, 10:42:22 AM
Yeah, every time I swap headers to get my car smogged, I have to get the sensors all ready, which can take forever (there's a certain driving style needed to hit the different sensors).
So it sounds like NY is the same as CA (which isn't surprising because NY has the second most stringent emissions laws after CA, IIRC), so Autobahn has smog AND lives in a boring place to drive. :lol:
I'm sure my car would pass the sniffer OK with a 2.5. Hell, my catless NC would probably pass the sniffer if it needed it. It's just visual I'm worried about, if the shop even notices or cares that the 2.2 was replaced with a 2.5.
If they look the same on the outside, it would probably pass. Don't smog it at a Subaru dealer. ;)
Quote from: shp4man on September 15, 2017, 10:45:19 AM
If they look the same on the outside, it would probably pass. Don't smog it at a Subaru dealer. ;)
They don't look the same, but they don't look that different either. It's easy to tell if you know what you're looking at, but what are the chances the smog guy will know?
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 15, 2017, 10:52:06 AM
They don't look the same, but they don't look that different either. It's easy to tell if you know what you're looking at, but what are the chances the smog guy will know?
There's a lot of smog guys that I wonder how the hell they passed the state smog test. :lol: But you need a guy that doesn't know Subies very well. Like me. :muffin:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 15, 2017, 10:42:22 AM
so Autobahn has smog AND lives in a boring place to drive. :lol:
Don't forget my boring DD. 2003 Minivan. :cry:
Bought some almost new Blizzak WS80 snow tires and wheels for $400 today. :rockon:
Nice. Gonna keep 'em swapped out when you're not weekend skiing? They'll last a lot longer.
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 16, 2017, 06:55:05 PM
Nice. Gonna keep 'em swapped out when you're not weekend skiing? They'll last a lot longer.
Yeah, definitely not dailying on these. I'll just put them on the day before and take them off the day after I go skiing. I prefer the RSRR's for street driving anyways. :lol:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 16, 2017, 06:56:28 PM
Yeah, definitely not dailying on these. I'll just put them on the day before and take them off the day after I go skiing. I prefer the RSRR's for street driving anyways. :lol:
:ohyeah:
Lots easier/convenient to swap when they're on their own wheels. :dance:
Yep, the wheels look nice too:
(https://i.imgur.com/RqanKAO.jpg)
2k miles on 3 tires, one is brand new, barely any tread depth difference (which was a concern since Subarus have the 2/32nds tire difference thing for the AWD systems). I'm pretty happy with the purchase.
Also got my new mud flaps today! Going on tomorrow. They gave me free Smarties with it too. :lol:
(https://i.imgur.com/9x85QOZ.jpg)
Don't eat the Smarties. :mask: :lol:
Too late. :pullover: :lol:
Jelly!
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 12, 2017, 02:21:51 PM
True, it's not a problem when it's unloaded and I'm just commuting in it, but I'm hoping to go skiing at least a few times a month...
Skis and ski gear weigh a lot less than firewood and camping gear. And even still, going slow because you're fully loaded just means your doing it right. :lol:
Firewood is indeed heavy. I figure a body's worth volume-wise is about the weight of an adult. :rastaman:
Quote from: Rupert on September 17, 2017, 01:38:34 PM
Skis and ski gear weigh a lot less than firewood and camping gear. And even still, going slow because you're fully loaded just means your doing it right. :lol:
That's true. Maybe I just take too much stuff for camping. :lol:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 17, 2017, 02:53:42 PM
That's true. Maybe I just take too much stuff for camping. :lol:
The more you go, the more you'll pare down on things you don't actually need.
Isn't it a pain in the ass to switch the tires/wheels? You have to jack up and down individually 4 times. Or do you have access to a lift?
Just asking because I switch out my all seasons for winters on one of my cars every November and thought about doing it on my own but then thought better of it and got it done every year in combo with an oil change at a local shop.
Don't forget that it's lowered, which can further add to the hassle. My jack just barely fits under the mount points. And this car prob won't see the track or Auto-X lot. I just don't get it. My UHP A/Ss grip harder than anyone with sense will ever push on the street... year round. [/rant over]
Quote from: veeman on September 17, 2017, 05:21:38 PM
Isn't it a pain in the ass to switch the tires/wheels? You have to jack up and down individually 4 times. Or do you have access to a lift?
Just asking because I switch out my all seasons for winters on one of my cars every November and thought about doing it on my own but then thought better of it and got it done every year in combo with an oil change at a local shop.
Most cars you can do one whole side at a time.
Given his vehicle history, I feel like he has a low-pro jack and 4 stands in his arsenal.
Quote from: 2o6 on September 15, 2017, 10:43:14 AM
Same story with the few counties in OH that do it.
Amazingly, my Neon passed with an empty cat.
Royal PITA!!!!!
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 15, 2017, 10:02:57 AM
I don't know if that works here. If you turn off something like the o2 sensor, it might not show as "ready", which is what they're looking for.
It works fine. Readiness is not effected. Just any trouble code that can be thrown is turned off... Therefore no trouble codes are shown to be active.
I passed emissions for like 5 years without a catalytic converter.
Quote from: veeman on September 17, 2017, 05:21:38 PM
Isn't it a pain in the ass to switch the tires/wheels? You have to jack up and down individually 4 times. Or do you have access to a lift?
Just asking because I switch out my all seasons for winters on one of my cars every November and thought about doing it on my own but then thought better of it and got it done every year in combo with an oil change at a local shop.
No, not really. Right now it's a pain in the ass because my dad trashed the garage again (that I just cleaned a few weeks ago :rage: ), and the driveway is super rough gravel/asphalt, but normally it takes about 15 min. :huh:
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 17, 2017, 05:29:17 PM
Don't forget that it's lowered, which can further add to the hassle. My jack just barely fits under the mount points. And this car prob won't see the track or Auto-X lot. I just don't get it. My UHP A/Ss grip harder than anyone with sense will ever push on the street... year round. [/rant over]
Lol, I got my extreme performance 200tw tires for $100/ea, which is far cheaper than any decent UHP A/S in the same size, especially once you factor in shipping and handling.
I also wouldn't trust any of those tires in the mountains with snow, so I'd have to run a separate set of snow tires anyways, and only an idiot would daily Blizzaks year round, especially in California. Why not get some fun rubber for the 99% of the time I'm driving? I also live next to miles and miles of epic twisties, so the tires get their use, and being able to keep up with or pass sports cars on downhills in a grandma wagon is always hilarious.
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 17, 2017, 05:43:26 PM
Given his vehicle history, I feel like he has a low-pro jack and 4 stands in his arsenal.
I have a shitty harbor freight jack that I need to upgrade, but it gets the job done. Some of you guys just make a far bigger deal of simple things for some reason. As Soup said, I jack it up once and do two wheels at a time (once under the front crossmember and once under the rear diff).
Quote from: r0tor on September 17, 2017, 07:02:37 PM
It works fine. Readiness is not effected. Just any trouble code that can be thrown is turned off... Therefore no trouble codes are shown to be active.
I passed emissions for like 5 years without a catalytic converter.
Hmm, I should ask my tuner to turn off my o2 sensors. Last time I smogged the car I just flashed the stock tune back on, but I do have the main cat.
I recently upgraded from my crappy 1.5 ton aluminum racing jack to a nicer HF 3 ton low profile steel jack. It's lower profile and lifts the car 5 more inches.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 17, 2017, 07:23:20 PM
Some of you guys just make a far bigger deal of simple things for some reason.
This forum is very good at that. People be like "wow, super cool that you spent a week re-building your intake" and then be like "omg you're gonna take 20 minutes to swap wheels? What a PITA!" :nutty:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 17, 2017, 07:29:07 PM
I recently upgraded from my crappy 1.5 ton aluminum racing jack to a nicer HF 3 ton low profile steel jack. It's lower profile and lifts the car 5 more inches.
I bought a steel one, but holy shit it's heavy. I returned it, but the aluminum ones don't go as low and don't lift as high either... I might just have to buy another steel one, but am waiting till I move out first.
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 17, 2017, 07:34:29 PM
This forum is very good at that. People be like "wow, super cool that you spent a week re-building your intake" and then be like "omg you're gonna take 20 minutes to swap wheels? What a PITA!" :nutty:
Yeah, seriously, I don't get it. That's 20 min without even using power tools, just a basic tool set and cheap HF torque wrenches. I thought this is a car forum. It'd take me longer to set up an appointment, drive to a shop, wait, and drive back than it would to just do the oil change and wheel swap myself.
Anywho, I got bored at like 11PM last night and installed my new mud flaps. The old hardware holding the old guards one were pretty seized on so I had to take a hacksaw and Dremel to them, which was a PITA. Also, weirdly enough, the site I bought the flaps from said to buy the shorter flaps if the car is lowered at all, but I got the standard length ones and think they look pretty good on my lowered car. I do scrape the front ones on speed bumps, but I kind of wanted some scrapage action. :lol:
(https://i.imgur.com/fioN6Ne.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pzVRg2C.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZsKPsno.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FM8IM6y.jpg)
Also, rotor, I was super tempted to get red ones like you said, but even I don't think I'm a big enough ricer to go through with it. :lol:
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 17, 2017, 03:03:24 PM
The more you go, the more you'll pare down on things you don't actually need.
Yes, but car camping is made for overpacking. :lol:
Quote from: Rupert on September 17, 2017, 07:45:07 PM
Yes, but car camping is made for overpacking. :lol:
Yeah, and I'd always prefer to take too much stuff than not enough.
I just hate unpacking all that shit...
Eh, we just took a tent and tarp and 4 chairs and food. It's just that with 4 people everything else adds up (sleeping bags, clothes, etc).
I'm super tempted to just go camp by myself. When I went camping about a month ago with the Subaru, my friends brought so much shit because they needed their full breakfast (they cooked omelettes and bacon FFS). This last time was way more fun.
I just bring poptarts. Cooking breakfast is too much work.
I just don't eat breakfast. Problem solved.
Closest thing to breakfast I eat while camping is a Clif bar for brunch.
If I don't eat breakfast I just stay in my sleeping bag all morning. :lol:
Eh, even when I go skiing I don't eat till lunch, and even then lunch is just clif bars every few hours till dinner. :lol:
Quote from: veeman on September 17, 2017, 05:21:38 PM
Isn't it a pain in the ass to switch the tires/wheels? You have to jack up and down individually 4 times.
Our cars are on coilovers which don't droop down the same as regular suspension. You can put a jack behind the front tire and both wheels on that side will leave the ground at almost the exact same time.
I see. Thanks.
I've changed a tire several times in my ute, for flats, and I know several of you guys do it often for upgrades. I would think changing all 4 back and forth between all seasons and winters for every ski trip would be kinda a pain in the ass and so I was curious. Some haterade apparently on the question but that's OK.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 17, 2017, 08:22:52 PM
I just don't eat breakfast. Problem solved.
I skip lunch a lot, but breakfast of some kind is essential. Oatmeal works a lot of the time when camping, and I can cook it up in about five minutes on my little backpacking stove. Some kind of granola bar will work otherwise.
Quote from: veeman on September 18, 2017, 05:50:01 AM
I see. Thanks.
I've changed a tire several times in my ute, for flats, and I know several of you guys do it often for upgrades. I would think changing all 4 back and forth between all seasons and winters for every ski trip would be kinda a pain in the ass and so I was curious. Some haterade apparently on the question but that's OK.
No haterade towards your question, just haterade towards sportys "no one should get anything other than UHP A/S tires for a street car" comment.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 17, 2017, 08:22:52 PM
I just don't eat breakfast. Problem solved.
Dat intermittent fasting life
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 18, 2017, 09:29:59 AM
Dat intermittent fasting life
It's seriously the best. I don't really follow the 8 hour eating window, but so I eat ~1pm to 12am generally, but it simplifies things so much to not have to eat breakfast in the morning. I can roll out of bed and into the car within a few minutes.
I'm a 2 meals a day person as well. Unless you count a Red Bull and some sort of granola bar as breakfast. Usually means I eat a small lunch and then a big dinner.
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 18, 2017, 10:41:05 AM
I'm a 2 meals a day person as well. Unless you count a Red Bull and some sort of granola bar as breakfast. Usually means I eat a small lunch and then a big dinner.
No calories till lunch. :nono: :lol:
I just have black coffee and water in the morning. The little bit of hunger keeps me moving in the mornings as well.
On weekends if I'm out tinkering on things, I'll probably forget to eat till about 6-7pm. And then I wonder why I can't gain weight. :facepalm: :lol:
I get hangry and groggy if I don't eat something in the morning.
Eh, you get used to it.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 17, 2017, 07:43:44 PM
Also, rotor, I was super tempted to get red ones like you said, but even I don't think I'm a big enough ricer to go through with it. :lol:
Oh you know you are :lol:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 17, 2017, 08:00:38 PM
Eh, we just took a tent and tarp and 4 chairs and food. It's just that with 4 people everything else adds up (sleeping bags, clothes, etc).
I'm super tempted to just go camp by myself. When I went camping about a month ago with the Subaru, my friends brought so much shit because they needed their full breakfast (they cooked omelettes and bacon FFS). This last time was way more fun.
Worst camping trip was with my buddies when we brought 2 cases of bottled beer on top of all of our gear and didn't realize we had to walk about 2 miles to the campsite...
Quote from: r0tor on September 18, 2017, 11:41:29 AM
Worst camping trip was with my buddies when we brought 2 cases of bottled beer on top of all of our gear and didn't realize we had to walk about 2 miles to the campsite...
:lol:
Yeah, that trip had way too many coolers full of alcohol. Thankfully we didn't have to walk to the campsite.
Hucking coolers blowwwwwws. Did it once, up a trail to a clifftop. Never again. If I ever have to do significant walking to camp, I'll take a bottle of liquor, preferably plastic. hah
Bought some beefy 3/16" skid plate for the front under the engine and rear diff.
Now I can get my snow plow on. :lol:
The car didn't even come with the plastic undertray so the filter and oil pan are just hanging out all exposed. I don't want to smack something in the snow and destroy my engine, especially since I'm lowered. With the tires this thing should be a beast in the snow.
Yeah, hitting a slushy ice chunk with your oil filter at 40mph is a recipe for awesome, I mean, disaster.
... Not to mention radiators don't work too well if there is nothing there to make the air go through it and not around it...
Quote from: r0tor on September 18, 2017, 03:16:02 PM
... Not to mention radiators don't work too well if there is nothing there to make the air go through it and not around it...
Yeah, i was thinking it probably wasn't great for cooling with all that empty space.
I don't know if my body is ready for all this newfound power.
Your pan & filter hang below the crossmember?
Yeah, pan is the lowest thing under the car. Filter isn't that low but I could see something damaging it.
Quote from: r0tor on September 18, 2017, 03:16:02 PM
... Not to mention radiators don't work too well if there is nothing there to make the air go through it and not around it...
I was dicking around in my FWD Monte Carlo in the snow way back in the day (I'd "modified" the pedal parking brake so it didn't ratchet...just push to slide) and ended up going nose first into a snowbank. Got out, but all the snow tore the serpentine belt off and I barely got it home. lol kids.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 18, 2017, 03:42:28 PM
Yeah, pan is the lowest thing under the car. Filter isn't that low but I could see something damaging it.
+1, especially lowered.
Dat feel when your $250 piece of aluminum doesn't come with the proper hardware to install it onto your car. :facepalm:
I might as well do an oil change before putting the skid plate on. If I don't get lazy tonight I'll try and put the rear skid plate on, but that involves moving the diff around to get the plate into place, which sounds like more work than I want to do on a weeknight.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 21, 2017, 12:53:54 PM
Dat feel when your $250 piece of aluminum doesn't come with the proper hardware to install it onto your car. :facepalm:
I might as well do an oil change before putting the skid plate on. If I don't get lazy tonight I'll try and put the rear skid plate on, but that involves moving the diff around to get the plate into place, which sounds like more work than I want to do on a weeknight.
Moving the diff? Do you get to move it back afterwards?
Cale made me do it.
(https://i.imgur.com/eldyAuE.jpg)
:lol:
Went for a drive with some friends:
(https://i.imgur.com/8V0XkVG.jpg)
The car is stupid quick downhill. I pulled away from the WRX and M5, mainly because of my cheater tires and the fact that I'm an idiot. :lol:
and without the roof box you'd have a 250lbs advantage on the WRX and 600lbs on the M5
Quote from: 68_427 on October 01, 2017, 08:04:49 AM
and without the roof box you'd have a 250lbs advantage on the WRX and 600lbs on the M5
Ehh, top box is 50 lb max (37 lb unloaded but I had some folding chairs in there :lol: ). Outback is almost 300 lb lighter than the WRX, so even with the top box it's still 250 lb lighter.
M5 is almost 4100 lb, so my car is damn near 1000 lb lighter than that.
Fuck, told myself I wouldn't order anything else for the car. Asked Cale what shift knob to get and $115 later I've got a new shift knob and boot on the way. :facepalm: :cry: :lol:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 02, 2017, 03:40:00 PM
Fuck, told myself I wouldn't order anything else for the car. Asked Cale what shift knob to get and $115 later I've got a new shift knob and boot on the way. :facepalm: :cry: :lol:
Better than ordering a $145 shift knob you sent me :lol:
Quote from: 68_427 on October 02, 2017, 09:49:49 PM
Better than ordering a $145 shift knob you sent me :lol:
This is why I bother you with questions every night. :lol:
What knobs?
Quote from: Laconian on October 02, 2017, 09:59:12 PM
What knobs?
Wouldn't you like to know? :winkguy:
Man, even CalTrans is getting some sweet shots of my Outback. Peep that sweet rising sun hood scoop yo
(https://i.imgur.com/RobAL7S.jpg)
:lol:
He got a big, tall, 1.4lbs knob.
Falken RT615K only $430 shipped on closeout right now (RT615K+ came out).
Super tempting, to be honest. These Federals are so loud my ears are dying.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 05, 2017, 11:57:32 AM
Falken RT615K only $430 shipped on closeout right now (RT615K+ came out).
Super tempting, to be honest. These Federals are so loud my ears are dying.
For how many?
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 05, 2017, 12:16:17 PM
For how many?
All 4. I've only got 3k miles on my current tires, but I can just sit on these for a while, or sell the Federals since they're so loud.
Do it.
Does Falken still have a $100 rebate on the new +'s?
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 05, 2017, 03:21:38 PM
Do it.
Does Falken still have a $100 rebate on the new +'s?
I'm not seeing that on TR's site. Even the new +'s are pretty cheap ($113 a tire), but after shipping they end up being about $100 more than the RSRR's.
I think the original 615k's are pretty close in price to the RSRR's. I paid $530 mounted and balanced for mine.
That much grips will make the car roll over
Quote from: r0tor on October 06, 2017, 12:56:29 PM
That much grips will make the car roll over
No rollover when hitting the twisties last weekend. :huh:
Roof carrier act like training wheels?
Roof carrier is 37 lb. I'm sure I more than offset any rise in center of gravity by lowering the entire car ~4" from stock.
My friends were saying it was hilarious seeing the car and top box pull away around corners in the twisties.
Now you need a 1st Gen legacy steering rack for dat 14:1 ratio or whatever it was
14:1 is terrible. 12.7:1 is the max for performance
i need an STI rack or something.
(https://i.imgur.com/sgiiAyO.jpg)
:wub:
Of the 5 cars I've owned, this is by far my favorite.
Seriously? More than the NC, 4Runner or RX7?
Quote from: CALL_911 on October 13, 2017, 11:55:08 PM
Seriously? More than the NC, 4Runner or RX7?
Yep. It's as practical as the 4Runner, and while that was a cool truck, it also drove like a truck. It was pretty sloppy on road, so it wasn't a lot of fun to drive.
It's also 95% as fun on the street as the NC while being much, much more livable and practical. I can go driving in the twisties with friends one day and then move all my furniture in it the next day. The Miata is so single sided it's not that fun to drive normally (aka not going 10/10ths), and it's so limiting in its practicality.
The RX7 was cool but just too old and beaten to be fun or dependable, which is interesting because the Subaru has more miles than the RX7 did.
I've put about 4,000 miles on the Volvo, 4Runner and RX7 combined. I've put over 6,000 on the Outback in less than 4 months.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 06, 2017, 05:18:34 PM
i need an STI rack or something.
Only the '15+ STI* rack is faster @ 13:1.
*besides limited production JDM models
I was telling somebody minutes ago I should have kept Legacy. :cry:
Well, the Impreza hatch was once touted as the best handling car of all time. I'm not surprised Subaru learned something from the legend they created :lol:
Quote from: MrH on October 16, 2017, 09:09:05 AM
Well, the Impreza hatch was once touted as the best handling car of all time. I'm not surprised Subaru learned something from the legend they created :lol:
:lol: :clap:
Next step for me is unloading the Blizzaks I just bought so I can go in a different direction.
I haven't gotten any interest in the wheels and tires yet... need to get some better pictures put up asap.
I'm glad someone picked up on the reference :praise:
Quote from: MrH on October 16, 2017, 07:43:58 PM
I'm glad someone picked up on the reference :praise:
I wonder if I had seen the light earlier if him and I would still be friends. :neverforget: :erjerbs:
Quote from: MrH on October 16, 2017, 09:09:05 AM
Well, the Impreza hatch was once touted as the best handling car of all time. I'm not surprised Subaru learned something from the legend they created :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh man....that guy was such a turd.
who was this? I missed something.
I convinced Rags by accident to order new brakes last night
How do you do that by accident? :lol:
Quote from: 68_427 on October 19, 2017, 05:33:05 AM
I convinced Rags by accident to order new brakes last night
Hello Kitty calipers?
I swear it was one of those "Let me add this to my cart and hit checkout to see the shipping charges" things and it bought it anyways. :lol:
But really, I can't afford these late night talks with Cale. :cry: :lol:
I was a few beers deep the other night and the next day got an email telling me my Amazon order for a new dash cam and an LED interior light kit was on its way...like fuuuuck, I did do that! :lol:
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 19, 2017, 10:02:25 AM
I was a few beers deep the other night and the next day got an email telling me my Amazon order for a new dash cam and an LED interior light kit was on its way...like fuuuuck, I did do that! :lol:
Yeah. I've done that too.
Except it was a buffalo skull.
Dammit, I was going to buy some Falken RT615K+ on sale from Discount Tire on ebay, but they're not there anymore. :rage:
I wish I could also unload these Blizzaks already. Need dat $$$.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 19, 2017, 11:37:54 AM
Dammit, I was going to buy some Falken RT615K+ on sale from Discount Tire on ebay, but they're not there anymore. :rage:
I wish I could also unload these Blizzaks already. Need dat $$$.
Wait. It's not even winter. Y u rid blizzaks?
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 19, 2017, 02:29:54 PM
Wait. It's not even winter. Y u rid blizzaks?
My friend is selling me his stock 2013 WRX wheels that has a set of new Continental WinterContact Si tires on it for not much more than what I bought the Blizzaks for.
The plan was to buy the RT615k+, mount those on the WRX wheels, and mount the Continentals on the V7 STI wheels currently on the car to use as my winter set. I've only got about 5k on the 595RSRR's but god damn they are loud as fuck.
Ahh I gotcha. Meh, give it another month and you'll have people clamoring for winter tires.
This is also California, so I'm not sure how many people will want winter tires. :lol:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 19, 2017, 02:45:06 PM
This is also California, so I'm not sure how many people will want winter tires. :lol:
True true. Gotta find another weekend skier.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 19, 2017, 02:41:36 PM
My friend is selling me his stock 2013 WRX wheels that has a set of new Continental WinterContact Si tires on it for not much more than what I bought the Blizzaks for.
The plan was to buy the RT615k+, mount those on the WRX wheels, and mount the Continentals on the V7 STI wheels currently on the car to use as my winter set. I've only got about 5k on the 595RSRR's but god damn they are loud as fuck.
Yikes there are a lot of numbers and what is this.
My snows are Blizzak LM-60s and they are borderline WRT tread life. I now have ~130k on the G and will be reticent to sell it anytime soon (plus I got Pilot Sport AS3+ earlier this year) if I buy new snows this year.
Snows are super loud and rough and terrible on bare roads, esp. wet.
Quote from: GoCougs on October 19, 2017, 10:38:08 PM
Yikes there are a lot of numbers and what is this.
My snows are Blizzak LM-60s and they are borderline WRT tread life. I now have ~130k on the G and will be reticent to sell it anytime soon (plus I got Pilot Sport AS3+ earlier this year) if I buy new snows this year.
Snows are super loud and rough and terrible on bare roads, esp. wet.
I need a set of snow tires for skiing when I go to Tahoe. We had tried his WRX wheels when I had my old shitty coilovers and they didn't fit, but they do fit with these new BC coilovers so I just need to get the snow tires swapped off those wheels and onto my gold wheels.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 19, 2017, 10:54:03 PM
I need a set of snow tires for skiing when I go to Tahoe. We had tried his WRX wheels when I had my old shitty coilovers and they didn't fit, but they do fit with these new BC coilovers so I just need to get the snow tires swapped off those wheels and onto my gold wheels.
You need snow tires for your Subaru? Just drive faster.
Car is totaled. Rear ended someone like a fucking idiot.
What the fuck
You OK?
RIP in pieces
:(
Quote from: Laconian on October 21, 2017, 09:20:21 PM
What the fuck
You OK?
Yeah I'm OK. I was merging on the freeway, checked over my shoulder to merge into the next lane, car in front of me slammed on its brakes and I slammed on mine, but it was too late. Slid right into the tow hitch of a 2nd gen MDX. The MDX's bumper was barely scratched. My car is fucked.
I might make a new thread weighing in my options. I'm driving the MDX right now (oh the irony) but can't drive an autotragic for too long.
Damn that's exactly how I crashed my BMW
Actually, I'm not even going to make another thread. I have too many new parts that I can swap over.
- Coilovers
- Swaybar endlinks
- Wheels & tires
- Whiteline steering rack bushings
- TIC transmission bushings
- WRX front seats
- Headlights (surprisingly they're not broken, from what I can see)
- Foglights (bumper went under the rear bumper of the MDX so the fogs escaped)
- Skid plates
- Mudflaps
Plus parts in the mail:
- Stainless steel brakes lines
- Full WRX brake kit (including calipers)
- New shift knob and boot
Some of the stuff can be used on most Subarus (like the brakes, bushings, shift knob, etc), but some of them are '95-99 Legacy/Outback specific, including the coilovers and skid plates, so it doesn't really make sense to get something different. If I could, I'd like a 2.5L version with the headgaskets replaced, but I'd definitely get another 2.2L if I could find one. It's hard to find a 2.2L Outback, though. Most 2.2's are Legacies.
Another thought is to sell the wheels/tires and coilovers and just raise the next Outback 1.5 - 2" and save up for some Sparco Terras on BFG KO2 tires...
Sucks that you crashed. You've got a bunch of Subie parts, shame to waste them. Find another Subie. My two cents.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 21, 2017, 08:18:06 PM
Car is totaled. Rear ended someone like a fucking idiot.
Good God!
Well, if you're okay, just gives a good excuse for another car.
What is your insurance rates like now?
What's the process of certification in CA?
Maybe replace hood and core support and call it a day?
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 21, 2017, 08:18:06 PM
Car is totaled. Rear ended someone like a fucking idiot.
Sorry man. You okay?
Quote from: 2o6 on October 22, 2017, 11:32:19 AM
What's the process of certification in CA?
Maybe replace hood and core support and call it a day?
If I fix it on my own it's like it never happened.
The problem is I don't know how to fix a core support on my own. It would be easier for me to get another car.
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 22, 2017, 09:26:42 AM
Good God!
Well, if you're okay, just gives a good excuse for another car.
What is your insurance rates like now?
I don't want a another car. :cry:
I mean, I'm Ok so I guess that's all that matters but I'm just so pissed off. To everyone else it was a 21 year old grocery getter but to me it was really the perfect car.
Quote from: Raza on October 22, 2017, 11:39:22 AM
Sorry man. You okay?
Yeah I'm good thanks. Just a bit sore,but that's probably because I didn't really sleep last night.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 22, 2017, 11:41:02 AM
If I fix it on my own it's like it never happened.
The problem is I don't know how to fix a core support on my own. It would be easier for me to get another car.
New subframe should bolt on AFAIK (which is not much about Subarus)
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 22, 2017, 11:42:11 AM
I mean, I'm Ok so I guess that's all that matters but I'm just so pissed off. To everyone else it was a 21 year old grocery getter but to me it was really the perfect car.
Yeah, you put a lot of yourself into it. :cry:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 22, 2017, 12:11:41 PM
New subframe should bolt on AFAIK (which is not much about Subarus)
Yeah, if it's just a rear ending, a new core support might just screw in
It's not subframe related... It needs a radiator support but I don't have access to a welder. If I get this professionally repaired it'll be way more than the cost of another car.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 22, 2017, 12:46:24 PM
It's not subframe related... It needs a radiator support but I don't have access to a welder. If I get this professionally repaired it'll be way more than the cost of another car.
Easily. That car was basically depreciated.
I'm wondering - should I just go buy a newer Outback 2.5 and lift it, and save all my parts for another BG next year?
One off road, one lowered...
any pics of the damage?
(https://i.imgur.com/xp0k8sX.jpg)
Car is at my parents' house right now so I can't check out the rest of the damage.
I know that the serpentine belt ripped off from getting smashed by the radiator. I don't know what else is wrong with the engine so not sure I want to fix it anyways.
:cry: sorry man. Glad everyone walked away!
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 22, 2017, 12:46:24 PM
It's not subframe related... It needs a radiator support but I don't have access to a welder. If I get this professionally repaired it'll be way more than the cost of another car.
Yeah so that's why you just replace the whole front subframe. Assuming it's bolt-on and not welded.
I'm a master at avoiding welding.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 22, 2017, 04:55:03 PM
Yeah so that's why you just replace the whole front subframe. Assuming it's bolt-on and not welded.
I'm a master at avoiding welding.
Front subframe just holds the engine and steering rack I thought? At least on the NC it's just the bottom bit that the engine sits in...
It looks like you missed the front subframe and frame rails. You look like you can get away with a core support and hood, but that's all I can see from this picture. I'm pretty sure it bolts right in, but i could be wrong. I know on my Sonic and my old Yaris, it was a bolt in affair.
But I could also be totally wrong. I also think that swapping over all these little parts to a new Legacy would be a PITA.
Even if the original core support is spotted welded, it's not uncommon for the service support to bolt in.
Quote from: 2o6 on October 22, 2017, 06:16:55 PM
It looks like you missed the front subframe and frame rails. You look like you can get away with a core support and hood, but that's all I can see from this picture. I'm pretty sure it bolts right in, but i could be wrong. I know on my Sonic and my old Yaris, it was a bolt in affair.
But I could also be totally wrong. I also think that swapping over all these little parts to a new Legacy would be a PITA.
I don't know what else is messed up in the front though. The serpentine belt ripped off because the radiator slammed into the engine. The accessories might be toast at the very least.
I can get everything except the sound system swapped in a day. Coilovers take 2 hours max. It would take me way longer to source a new hood, radiator support, radiator, etc, and replace those than it would for the rest of the bits on the car, and that's IF I don't find any extra damage.
I'm also considering an Outback XT, which means I'd have to sell most of my parts...
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Ooooo, Outback XT, do want. That generation of Outback is the best looking of the lot IMO.
Only problem with OBXT is the only parts that will swap over are the bushings and shift knob...
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 22, 2017, 06:52:57 PM
Only problem with OBXT is the only parts that will swap over are the bushings and shift knob...
It's OK, you're making adult monies.
I also have shit luck with cars, apparently.
Edited so Ed can stop being butthurt.
I think this next weekend I'll go back home and see if I can maybe fix anything. I'll get some better pics then.
If I could drill out spot welds and just bolt shit together again I'd be open to that.
I'm sorry man.
The total cost of parts you've spent in fixing up your Outback has been around $1000 I'm guessing (not counting the roof box). So although it was a lot of labor (labor of love), the total cost of parts hasn't been huge. It's not worth it limiting yourself to certain model and year cars for that. It's not like you have $5000 in parts you've recently purchased. Maybe I'm wrong.
I also wouldn't try to fix this car. You've been doing everything yourself and just buying parts. This is auto body stuff. You're going to end up spending a lot more money than you have already spent in parts for an old car.
Get whatever strikes your fancy and thank whomever you don't have broken stuff on your body or the person(s) you accidentally hit.
Roof box I had a long time before I got the car.
I've spent easily $4k in parts, all of which can come off and onto another Outback easily, hence why I'm looking for another one.
If I get something different, all those parts will be worth maybe $1.5-2k max.
I was thinking about fixing it, but I really don't know if I could pull it off and I don't want to throw more money at it if I don't know it will work right in the end. Plus, the A/C is dead for sure, which means I'd need a new condensor and recharge that as well.
I'm tempted to grab some fuel efficient commuter car off CL right now for around $2k, then wait for a while till the right '96 Outback pops up and jump on that later.
Yeah that makes sense. Can you contain yourself and not start trying to beautify your $2000 Craigslist beater car though?
Kind of late for that question, don't you think? :huh:
You made the title of the thread relevant again
Quote from: veeman on October 22, 2017, 11:39:19 PM
Yeah that makes sense. Can you contain yourself and not start trying to beautify your $2000 Craigslist beater car though?
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Shit man I'm sorry. I vote sell parts and get newer Outback XT
Ouch... That looks pretty fixable though
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I mean, I'm not surprised the guy who can't even be bothered to do an oil change or swap wheels twice a year to understand why I like modifying cars... :facepalm:
Quote from: r0tor on October 23, 2017, 10:33:31 AM
Ouch... That looks pretty fixable though
IDK, I have to look into it more. I kind of don't want to deal with the A/C right now, though.
AC delete!
Oh god no I'm not going through that again. :lol:
Don't give him ideas! You guys are terrible :lol:
Quote from: Rich on October 23, 2017, 12:20:28 AM
You made the title of the thread relevant again
Too soon? Nah, :clap:
You guys are the worst
Have you gotten any actual numbers from the insurance yet?
What numbers? I don't have collision.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 23, 2017, 10:55:12 AM
I mean, I'm not surprised the guy who can't even be bothered to do an oil change or swap wheels twice a year to understand why I like modifying cars... :facepalm:
WTF are you talking about. You said you wanted another Subaru Outback of similar vintage because you have $4000 dollars worth of parts you've recently bought that you can swap into it. Then you said that until you find one, you'll find a $2000 beater car to take to work everyday.
So I said that sounds like a good idea. Then I asked will you be able to prevent yourself from beautifying your $2000 beater car until you get the Subie Outback that you really want for which you can take your $4000 worth of parts you have recently bought to put into.
If you think my train of thought is rather stupid, fine. I understand you're kind of pissed right now, but don't take it out on me.
You know it is a great idea in fact to buy your $2000 beater, buy a bunch of beautifying parts for it, only to dump it when the car you really want, the same vintage Subie Outback you just lost, shows up for you to put the $4000 worth of parts you already have into.
I'm being serious here. It's a great hobby you have and I'm glad you share your experiences with me on this board. But don't shit on me just because you're pissed at what life has just thrown you.
Quote from: veeman on October 23, 2017, 01:51:02 PM
WTF are you talking about. You said you wanted another Subaru Outback of similar vintage because you have $4000 dollars worth of parts you've recently bought that you can swap into it. Then you said that until you find one, you'll find a $2000 beater car to take to work everyday.
So I said that sounds like a good idea. Then I asked will you be able to prevent yourself from beautifying your $2000 beater car until you get the Subie Outback that you really want for which you can take your $4000 worth of parts you have recently bought to put into.
If you think my train of thought is rather stupid, fine. I understand you're kind of pissed right now, but don't take it out on me.
You know it is a great idea in fact to buy your $2000 beater, buy a bunch of beautifying parts for it, only to dump it when the car you really want, the same vintage Subie Outback you just lost, shows up for you to put the $4000 worth of parts you already have into.
I'm being serious here. It's a great hobby you have and I'm glad you share your experiences with me on this board. But don't shit on me just because you're pissed at what life has just thrown you.
My bad, I thought you were saying I shouldn't have spent $4k on my $2k Outback in the first place, which I took it to mean you were shitting on me.
Yes, if a 3rd beater comes into the equation, that would remain stock so I can save the money and buy a better Outback.
I'm looking at one now but it's kind of rough. Miles are low but it needs a bunch of work.
Have you ever thought of a motorcycle? :lol: :popcorn:
Quote from: shp4man on October 23, 2017, 02:13:25 PM
Have you ever thought of a motorcycle? :lol: :popcorn:
I'd recommend an area with no people and straight roads, to avoid any future crashes. Nebraska maybe?
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 23, 2017, 02:51:55 PM
I'd recommend an area with no people and straight roads, to avoid any future crashes. Nebraska maybe?
Riding motrocycles on-post at Army bases is usually the safest. Wide, well-marked streets and intersections, with the top speed being 40mph here and roads that would be 45mph in a town are only 35mph...
Real talk though - the engine got pushed hard enough that the alternator belt fell off.
Considering a hitch had its way with the front of my car, is it worth fixing? I don't want to get the radiator and support, only to find out the engine is borked.
Twin turbo 3.6L. And then you're gonna need fat tires and fender flares. And then you're gonna need a full cage. And some massive aero. Ditch all the back seats.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 23, 2017, 01:15:30 PM
What numbers? I don't have collision.
Oh, well that's a different story. "Totalled" to me implies insurance- my mistake.
Have you taken a good look at it and tried to come up with a reasonable repair estimate then, and what is it?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 23, 2017, 03:30:22 PM
Oh, well that's a different story. "Totalled" to me implies insurance- my mistake.
Have you taken a good look at it and tried to come up with a reasonable repair estimate then, and what is it?
I only saw it in the dark. I'll take better pictures this weekend and post them here so the SPIN can collectively decide if it's worth saving or not.
I would think just diagnosing the problems properly would cost enough to eliminate fixing it as an option... :huh:
Is this your first car accident not involving motorcycles?
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 23, 2017, 02:58:47 PM
Real talk though - the engine got pushed hard enough that the alternator belt fell off.
Considering a hitch had its way with the front of my car, is it worth fixing? I don't want to get the radiator and support, only to find out the engine is borked.
I would assume the belt popped off because some bracket got bent, probably because the radiator got pushed into it; but who knows?
I'd pull the radiator, and a good deal of the bumper related parts to get a better look at things before making any decisions.
First at fault accident, yes.
Quote from: Rupert on October 23, 2017, 03:32:23 PM
I would think just diagnosing the problems properly would cost enough to eliminate fixing it as an option... :huh:
Is this your first car accident not involving motorcycles?
You mean professionally? Yeah, that's right out.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 23, 2017, 03:34:31 PM
I would assume the belt popped off because some bracket got bent, probably because the radiator got pushed into it; but who knows?
I'd pull the radiator, and a good deal of the bumper related parts to get a better look at things before making any decisions.
Yeah, I'll do that. If some bracket got bent, who knows what else is also fucked up though...
There's another '96 in mint condition, but it's $4500. It's only got 100k miles on it and has a new timing belt and water pump. Supposedly it also had the headgaskets replaced.
Pretty expensive, though, and I don't know if I want such a nice one to rice out and take to the mountains.
Mos def DO NOT fix it. It'll take a ton of work, and be hassle, esp. now that you're a renter, and it you'll unlikely be able to fix it as good as it was.
^^^
My Camry was "fixed" after a similar accident and it always had awful alignment issues afterward.
Plus I think the structural rigidity is basically FUBAR, bad for handling and safety.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on October 23, 2017, 02:56:43 PM
...and roads that would be 45mph in a town are only 35mph...
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Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 23, 2017, 03:34:50 PM
First at fault accident, yes.
Others where you were technically not at fault?
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 23, 2017, 07:14:44 PM
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it's so crazy. It's faster to drive around base than through it- even though it's twice the distance.
FWIW my SVX had nearly identical damage. I wrapped a tow strap around a tree and the core support, had my friend spot me, and pulled it out by reversing the car. Even if it's not perfect zip ties will hold in that tiny radiator no problem, which btw is like $70 if you need a new one.*
*I didn't read the last two pages of the thread.
https://flic.kr/p/XkhHtb
It doesn't look as bad in pictures but the radiator and fans were jammed against the front of the engine and I spent $100 fixing it myself not including a new hood.
Quote from: 68_427 on October 24, 2017, 08:18:38 AM
FWIW my SVX had nearly identical damage. I wrapped a tow strap around a tree and the core support, had my friend spot me, and pulled it out by reversing the car. Even if it's not perfect zip ties will hold in that tiny radiator no problem, which btw is like $70 if you need a new one.*
*I didn't read the last two pages of the thread.
I learned that the beam under the radiator is not a lift point. I stuck a floor jack under there one time and....
Surprising part is that although that beam, radiator, and where the hood latches got pushed up enough that the Closed Hood looked an inch open or so, the radiator never did leak. I had the guy who did the engine swap pull it back down for me so it looked better.