Would You Be Interested In A Skoda Superb Coupe?
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There was a time when Skoda used to sell coupes too, but that was long before the Volkswagen era.
Now, the Czech automaker keeps its lineup as simple as possible, while recently going after the booming SUV segment(s) with the Kodiaq, and its smaller sibling, the Karoq, while promising to offer electrified models too, in the coming years.
However, despite Skoda's future looking all SUV-ish and green-ish, a rendering artist that goes by the name of Laszlo Nemeth, decided to transform the Superb into a rather stylish two-door coupe.
Changes applied to the company's flagship saloon are minimal, as they include the extended front doors, and that's pretty much it.
Now, it's pretty clear that we won't see a Skoda Superb Coupe, given the automaker's positioning within the Volkswagen Group as a more affordable brand, but this design would work quite nicely. The only problem is that it could cannibalize the Audi A5 Coupe, and that it needs a proper challenger, such as a two-door Ford Mondeo.
Link: http://www.carscoops.com/2017/10/would-you-be-interested-in-skoda-superb.html
I was going to say no, because fixed roof cars are all worthless unless they're as practical as possible, but that looks good. However, were I in the market, I'd buy a sedan or estate version over it.
This market segment is dead. The last midsized coupe (Accord) died with the new generation.
Weirdly still, the Accord coupe got markedly worse MPG compared to the sedan when equipped with the same engine and transmission combo
The good news is the Superb is available as a gorgeous wagon. :ohyeah:
(http://www.autocar.co.nz/_Reviews/Cars/Skoda%20Superb%20Wagon%20TSI%20132/Skoda%20Superb%20wagon-s_action_WEB-HEADER.jpg)
Quote from: cawimmer430 on October 03, 2017, 10:07:34 AM
The good news is the Superb is available as a gorgeous wagon. :ohyeah:
(http://www.autocar.co.nz/_Reviews/Cars/Skoda%20Superb%20Wagon%20TSI%20132/Skoda%20Superb%20wagon-s_action_WEB-HEADER.jpg)
AWD and a stick and I'd be all over it.
IDK this is like lusting after a Trans Sport over an Old Sillouette
Quote from: 2o6 on October 03, 2017, 10:21:27 AM
IDK this is like lusting after a Trans Sport over an Old Sillouette
I don't understand the language you're using.
Quote from: Raza on October 03, 2017, 10:25:48 AM
I don't understand the language you're using.
Trans Sport = Superb
Sillouette = Passat
Idk they're the same fucking car, and there's no real differences between the two.
Quote from: Raza on October 03, 2017, 10:14:52 AM
AWD and a stick and I'd be all over it.
Both of which are available on the Superb. The manual is a 6-speed.
I'm with 2o6... Passat is boring AF and this is no different. Removing the rear doors only makes it worse. CLS/CC have shown there's no benefit of lopping off rear doors for style, unless you go all the way
Quote from: cawimmer430 on October 03, 2017, 10:31:22 AM
Both of which are available on the Superb. The manual is a 6-speed.
Nice.
Quote from: 2o6 on October 03, 2017, 10:26:45 AM
Trans Sport = Superb
Sillouette = Passat
Idk they're the same fucking car, and there's no real differences between the two.
Okay. But I don't really know what a Trans Sport and a Silhouette are. As cars. I understand the words.
The GM "Dustbuster" vans of the early 1990s.
Pontiac Trans Sport:
(https://file.kbb.com/kbb/vehicleimage/housenew/480x360/1993/1993-pontiac-trans%20sport-frontside_pvtsp931.jpg)
Oldsmobile Silhouette:
(https://file.kbb.com/kbb/vehicleimage/housenew/640x480/1992/1992-oldsmobile-silhouette-frontside_ovsil921.jpg)
Chevrolet Lumina APV:
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Good ol' GM badge engineering.
Quote from: 93JC on October 03, 2017, 12:46:53 PM
The GM "Dustbuster" vans of the early 1990s.
Pontiac Trans Sport:
(https://file.kbb.com/kbb/vehicleimage/housenew/480x360/1993/1993-pontiac-trans%20sport-frontside_pvtsp931.jpg)
Oldsmobile Silhouette:
(https://file.kbb.com/kbb/vehicleimage/housenew/640x480/1992/1992-oldsmobile-silhouette-frontside_ovsil921.jpg)
Chevrolet Lumina APV:
(https://file.kbb.com/kbb/vehicleimage/housenew/640x480/1992/1992-chevrolet-lumina%20apv-frontside_ctlum924.jpg)
Oh, okay. I recognize those. It's coming back to me.
Why were those things called "Dustbuster" vans?
Their profile looks like one of the old school Dustbuster handheld vacuums.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--l6XS9-1d--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/18mlo21cagt8kjpg.jpg)
Man, those Dustbusters (both the vacuum and van) were such big pieces of shit. :lol:
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 03, 2017, 03:28:10 PM
Their profile looks like one of the old school Dustbuster handheld vacuums.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--l6XS9-1d--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/18mlo21cagt8kjpg.jpg)
Man, those Dustbusters (both the vacuum and van) were such big pieces of shit. :lol:
We're the vans really POS's?
The 3.1 and 3.8 were pretty reliable, and although it was weird looking it had a lot of innovative features for its day.
They didn't drive good, no, but I'd take a Dustbuster over a Toyota Van or Nissan Vanette or Toyota Previa
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 03, 2017, 03:28:10 PM
Their profile looks like one of the old school Dustbuster handheld vacuums.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--l6XS9-1d--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/18mlo21cagt8kjpg.jpg)
Man, those Dustbusters (both the vacuum and van) were such big pieces of shit. :lol:
The windshields were enormous and the dashboards were literally impossible to wipe down without using a broomstick or something. So huge.
They also look like a light breeze could blow them over.
Quote from: 2o6 on October 03, 2017, 03:33:03 PM
We're the vans really POS's?
The 3.1 and 3.8 were pretty reliable, and although it was weird looking it had a lot of innovative features for its day.
They didn't drive good, no, but I'd take a Dustbuster over a Toyota Van or Nissan Vanette or Toyota Previa
I'd much rather have a Previa, but I can see how people might not like it (RWD, mid engine, etc).
What did those vans offer over a Caravan/T&C though?
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 03, 2017, 03:42:33 PM
I'd much rather have a Previa, but I can see how people might not like it (RWD, mid engine, etc).
What did those vans offer over a Caravan/T&C though?
The Previa is slow as shit, not easy to work on, and it also has a really high floor with cramped foot wells.
The APV vans had
- rust free plastic bodywork (later used on the Saturns)
- modular seating ( the six individual seats weren't seen in American minivans)
- power sliding door option (wasn't seen until like 2001 on the Chrysler vans)
I read that in Europe they were a relative hit; the styling had never really been seen before. It also came with a 4 cyl manual over there.
Quote from: 2o6 on October 03, 2017, 03:49:21 PM
The Previa is slow as shit, not easy to work on, and it also has a really high floor with cramped foot wells.
The APV vans had
- rust free plastic bodywork (later used on the Saturns)
- modular seating ( the six individual seats weren’t seen in American minivans)
- power sliding door option (wasn’t seen until like 2001 on the Chrysler vans)
They were also noticeably bigger than a Caravan/Voyager of the time (Have you been in a first- or second-generation Caravan/Voyager? They were actually quite small...), and the 3800 V6 had about 35 more hp than the Caravan/Voyager's V6 (the Chryslers didn't get more powerful 3.3 L and 3.8 L V6s until later).
I knew a guy whose parents had a Previa: it was even more bizarre inside than the Dustbusters, the thing was $Texas when new, and it was gutless as hell (and heavy).
Quote from: Laconian on October 03, 2017, 03:38:28 PM
The windshields were enormous and the dashboards were literally impossible to wipe down without using a broomstick or something. So huge.
That's most modern rear windows. It's especially helpful to clean them if the rear seats fold down.
Ah, I see. I've never seen such a hightech-looking vacuum cleaner from the 1990s before. :lol:
Quote from: 2o6 on October 03, 2017, 03:50:45 PM
I read that in Europe they were a relative hit; the styling had never really been seen before. It also came with a 4 cyl manual over there.
I've seen a few Pontiac Trans Sports on the road here (it seems they were all sold in white color here...). According to the German Wikipedia entry on it the Euro "Pontiac" Trans Sport was actually an Oldsmobile Silhouette that had Pontiac badges slapped onto it.
And yes, it was available here with an Oldsmobile 2.3-l 4-cylinder engine with 137-horsepower and a 5-speed manual transmission.
GM apparently also planned on sourcing a 90-horsepower 1.9-l diesel engine from PSA but the lower power output made them drop the idea.
In Europa, wo man dank des Renault Espace an modern geformte Minivans gewöhnt war, war das Echo gegenüber dem futuristischen Styling gegenüber aufgeschlossener, und die Verkäufe entwickelten sich beachtlich. Die europäische Version war ab 1994 eine Ausführung des Oldsmobile Silhouette, die durch das Hinzufügen eines Pontiac-Schriftzugs und entsprechender Radkappen zu einem europäischen Pontiac Trans Sport umgewandelt wurde. Eine weitere europäische Besonderheit war das Angebot von Vierzylindermotoren, die sparsamer waren als die in Amerika ausschließlich verkauften Sechszylinder. Ab 1993 gab es einen von Oldsmobile stammenden 2,3 Liter großen Vierzylinder-Vierventil-Benzinmotor, der 101 kW (137 PS) leistete und ausschließlich mit einem Fünfgang-Schaltgetriebe kombiniert wurde. 1995 plante man die Einführung einer Dieselversion. Verwendung sollte ein 1,9-l-Aggregat mit 66 kW (90 PS) von PSA finden, das für das Fahrzeug jedoch zu leistungsschwach war und es somit nie zum Verkauf kam.Link: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Trans_Sport
No I wouldn't