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Title: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: MrH on October 04, 2017, 09:27:17 AM
Is there anything that an OEM could release now that would have you drive straight to a dealership to try out?  A few ideas that came to mind for me:

- 2018 Accord w/ 2.0 Turbo + stick + AWD + fully loaded.  I'd get there even faster if they offered it as a wagon too.
- ND Miata with the new HCCI engine and Winning Blue color
- Current Outback with the fully loaded 3.6 H6 + manual.  Also, the 2.0T from the WRX + manual in the Outback would work too.
- Current 4Runner + Manual
- Current 4Runner but with a V8 and an automatic with 6+ gears.
- STI with a new turbo motor based off the WRX.  Bonus points if they offered it as a hatch again.

Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on October 04, 2017, 10:31:21 AM
- A BMW that was really competitive with Tesla's model 3
- A Tesla model 3
- The new Z4 with a manual
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Payman on October 04, 2017, 10:50:16 AM
-VW Up! GTi
-Scirocco
-The Miata ND you mentioned
- Fiat 124 Abarth with 220+ hp
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Payman on October 04, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
A new city (Kei car) segment, with lower insurance rates. Then...

Honda S660.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: giant_mtb on October 04, 2017, 11:02:20 AM
A new Tacoma for $0.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Payman on October 04, 2017, 11:06:37 AM
Bring back the inexpensive coupes, and I'm not talking "4-door coupes".

Us empty nesters still like our 2 doors.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Lebowski on October 04, 2017, 11:09:09 AM
6th gen 4Runner, assuming implemented right.

Have said before, wish Toyota had a smaller SUV that was not as girly as the rav4, not as cheesy as the FJ. 

Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Cookie Monster on October 04, 2017, 11:13:54 AM
Anything AWD + manual + wagon (not a hatch) would have me checking it out ASAP.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 04, 2017, 11:14:33 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 04, 2017, 11:02:20 AM
A new Tacoma for $0.

Yes. Anything for $0
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: 2o6 on October 04, 2017, 11:39:34 AM
An Awd manual Citroen c4 cactus.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: RomanChariot on October 04, 2017, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 04, 2017, 11:14:33 AM
Yes. Anything for $0

At that price I would spring for more than 1.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Payman on October 04, 2017, 11:50:16 AM
Oooh...

A small 4 cyl pickup. Like they used to make. Except more rust resistant.

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Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Cookie Monster on October 04, 2017, 11:55:44 AM
^Yes

A true compact pickup would be amazing.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: MX793 on October 04, 2017, 03:43:45 PM
A3 Quattro with a manual transmission.  Even better if a hatch.
Mazdaspeed2 hatchback.  Hell, even a Mazda2 hatch (if cheap enough, would make an enticing 2nd/winter car)
Mazda3 or Mazda6 2-door coupe (bring back the MX3 and/or MX6!)
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: giant_mtb on October 04, 2017, 03:45:39 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 04, 2017, 11:55:44 AM
^Yes

A true compact pickup would be amazing.

Agreed.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: 2o6 on October 04, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: MX793 on October 04, 2017, 03:43:45 PM
Hell, even a Mazda2 hatch (if cheap enough, would make an enticing 2nd/winter car)



You can! You just have to put it on a boat back from PR
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: MX793 on October 04, 2017, 03:48:12 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on October 04, 2017, 03:46:56 PM

You can! You just have to put it on a boat back from PR

Probably can get a deal on a salvaged one right about now...
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Cookie Monster on October 04, 2017, 03:51:01 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on October 04, 2017, 03:46:56 PM

You can! You just have to put it on a boat back from PR

Is that actually allowed?
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Xer0 on October 04, 2017, 04:17:40 PM
-Current Civic Si sedan with a K24 pumping out like 225/230hp.
-Current model 230i but as a Gran Coupe with a 6-spd.
-A hypothetical Fit Si with the 1.5L turbo.
-A Mustang GT350 like package for the V6.  Call it the GT250 and give it like 365 hp to go head to head with the V6 1LE.
-An SLK45AMG that is fitted with the CLA/GLA's engine and a 6spd.

Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on October 04, 2017, 04:29:30 PM
Hell, there is stuff I want to try now. Auto GTI & 340i are pretty compelling dailies

But as far as shit that doesn't exist yet:

- BRZ with a ~220HP 2.5L
- I like the Fit 1.5T idea. Regular Fit was shockingly good.
- ILX based on the new Civic with the 2.0T, 9DCT and SH-AWD
- Golf R with a ~330HP 3.6L VR6
- New Charger built off the Giulia platform w/an aluminum V8 :wub:
- Murano with the Maxima's 300HP engine and a stiffer suspension
- MKC (Escape clone) with the 2.7EB
- F150 Lightning :erjerbs:

As for some of the previously mentioned ideas:

- HCCI Miata- yes... matter of fact, any HCCI Mazda period, though I think they need some more gears in their AT
- 2 Gran Coupe would be nice but I already drove my buddy's 2.
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Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: ifcar on October 04, 2017, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 04, 2017, 03:51:01 PM
Is that actually allowed?

Cars sold in Puerto Rico have to meet U.S. certifications, so I would assume so.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: r0tor on October 04, 2017, 06:23:25 PM
4 door M2
New RX7 or RX8
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Cookie Monster on October 04, 2017, 06:37:38 PM
Quote from: ifcar on October 04, 2017, 06:03:22 PM
Cars sold in Puerto Rico have to meet U.S. certifications, so I would assume so.

I'm assuming in California, it would have to have at least 7500 miles on it. That's what's required for any other vehicle that's only 48 state compliant
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Raza on October 04, 2017, 06:40:00 PM
Hmm, not really sure. Maybe an Outback with a WRX engine and transmission.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Cookie Monster on October 04, 2017, 06:42:14 PM
Quote from: Raza  on October 04, 2017, 06:40:00 PM
Hmm, not really sure. Maybe an Outback with a WRX engine and transmission.

Yeah, basically an '03-'09 Outback XT.

I've been very tempted to price out a Crosstrek many times, but it's just not enough space. :cry:
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Raza on October 04, 2017, 06:58:26 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 04, 2017, 06:42:14 PM
Yeah, basically an '03-'09 Outback XT.

I've been very tempted to price out a Crosstrek many times, but it's just not enough space. :cry:

Those were crappy inside, though, right?
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: 2o6 on October 04, 2017, 07:11:36 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 04, 2017, 06:37:38 PM
I'm assuming in California, it would have to have at least 7500 miles on it. That's what's required for any other vehicle that's only 48 state compliant

Scion/Toyota Yaris iA was federalized under the Mazda 2 moniker, so it's good to go.






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In all seriousness, if GM put the new 1.5T in the Sonic, and turned up the boost to at least 180HP - I would buy one. I've always thought the Sonic was a sharper and better platform than the Fiesta.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: 2o6 on October 04, 2017, 07:14:05 PM
Also - I would buy a Civic Si hatchback.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: MrH on October 04, 2017, 07:20:17 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on October 04, 2017, 07:14:05 PM
Also - I would buy a Civic Si hatchback.

Ooooo that's a good one.

Seems like I'm not the only one that wants a modern Outback XT either.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 04, 2017, 07:29:35 PM
Hellcat Magnum
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Payman on October 04, 2017, 07:34:20 PM
Challenger convertible
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Rupert on October 04, 2017, 08:07:02 PM
New Xterra with a better interior, automatic transmission with more gears and a gated shifter, engine with better gas mileage (less power OK), and longer cargo area with the seats folded flat. And maybe better/modern headlights.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 04, 2017, 08:20:31 PM
Hellcat Town & Country
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Xer0 on October 04, 2017, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 04, 2017, 08:20:31 PM
Hellcat Town & Country

Demon or bust
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Rupert on October 04, 2017, 09:09:11 PM
Any minivan with reasonable off-pavement cred (clearance, sturdy suspension, can fit AT tires, actual 4WD or really good AWD).
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on October 04, 2017, 09:16:55 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 04, 2017, 07:29:35 PM
Hellcat Magnum
(https://buyersguide.caranddriver.com/media/assets/submodel/8176.jpg)
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Cookie Monster on October 04, 2017, 09:18:11 PM
Quote from: Raza  on October 04, 2017, 06:58:26 PM
Those were crappy inside, though, right?

If you're looking for a decent interior, I'd just stay away from pretty much any Subaru made before 2014 or so... Those '03-'09's had a ton of silver plastic everywhere.

Quote from: MrH on October 04, 2017, 07:20:17 PM
Ooooo that's a good one.

Seems like I'm not the only one that wants a modern Outback XT either.

I'm probably going to rage buy one in the next year. :lol:
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 04, 2017, 09:26:07 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 04, 2017, 09:16:55 PM
(https://buyersguide.caranddriver.com/media/assets/submodel/8176.jpg)

Decent, but Magnums were cooler. A new one with the current Charger styling would be awesome.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: GoCougs on October 04, 2017, 10:23:02 PM
Trackhawk is pretty sweet but Jesus, at $90k, it's simply not worth it.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: 68_427 on October 04, 2017, 11:44:58 PM
Quote from: Raza  on October 04, 2017, 06:58:26 PM
Those were crappy inside, though, right?

The 05-09 Outback XT?  No the Limited trims are actually pretty nice, and could be had with one of these for all 5 years

(http://www.cars101.com/subaru/outback/Ob09LTDgray2.JPG)
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: GoCougs on October 04, 2017, 11:54:59 PM
Mos def - Subaru Outback XT Limited is fairly plush/desirable (interior and otherwise) some ~10 years on, and the package in general is MEGA. Big fan.

Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: 68_427 on October 05, 2017, 12:08:32 AM
There's actually 10 '08-'09 Outback XT Limited manuals for sale on cargurus right now for Raza to try out.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: veeman on October 05, 2017, 12:24:26 AM
Modern take on a VW minivan under $40,000 with manual transmission and modern car crash test results.  It's gotta look similar to the original one though.  Maybe a bit larger.

Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: GoCougs on October 05, 2017, 12:29:38 AM
Quote from: 68_427 on October 05, 2017, 12:08:32 AM
There's actually 10 '08-'09 Outback XT Limited manuals for sale on cargurus right now for Raza to try out.

Raza hates Japan so that's not going to happen.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: mzziaz on October 05, 2017, 12:57:02 AM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on October 04, 2017, 11:55:44 AM
^Yes

A true compact pickup would be amazing.

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--mdW182KB--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/aew8sowrpvobybtaqizn.jpg)
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on October 05, 2017, 06:31:18 AM
Quote from: GoCougs on October 04, 2017, 10:23:02 PM
Trackhawk is pretty sweet but Jesus, at $90k, it's simply not worth it.
For what it is it seems like a pretty solid deal. Can you imagine how much it would be from teh Germans?
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Cookie Monster on October 05, 2017, 09:49:59 AM
Quote from: mzziaz on October 05, 2017, 12:57:02 AM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--mdW182KB--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/aew8sowrpvobybtaqizn.jpg)

Isn't that FWD?
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: mzziaz on October 05, 2017, 02:28:07 PM
yes, i think it is stricktly fwd
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Laconian on October 05, 2017, 08:18:15 PM
RDX turbo 4 with SH-AWD in a TSX body with a 6MT. Yeeeee
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 05, 2017, 08:25:20 PM
Demon Neon
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: GoCougs on October 05, 2017, 10:08:53 PM
Poser class sedan w/NA V8, AWD and 6MT.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: CALL_911 on October 05, 2017, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on October 05, 2017, 10:08:53 PM
Poser class sedan w/NA V8, AWD and 6MT.

That reminds me, I saw a B7 RS4 the other day for the first time in a while. Those things still look fantastic.

Hm, a WRX STI wagon or hatch would be really nice. Or, as others have said, a BMW 2-series sedan.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: CALL_911 on October 05, 2017, 10:18:02 PM
Quote from: Laconian on October 05, 2017, 08:18:15 PM
RDX turbo 4 with SH-AWD in a TSX body with a 6MT. Yeeeee

My GF has an RDX with that turbo-4. I do not think it is a good motor. It guzzles gas and has serious turbo lag. I don't know how much her car weighs, but the thing isn't terribly quick either. All in all, I'm very eh on that RDX.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: MrH on October 06, 2017, 07:20:28 AM
Quote from: GoCougs on October 05, 2017, 10:08:53 PM
Poser class sedan w/NA V8, AWD and 6MT.

So basically an AWD Chevy SS?
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: MX793 on October 06, 2017, 07:21:41 AM
Quote from: MrH on October 06, 2017, 07:20:28 AM
So basically an AWD Chevy SS?

Smaller.  3-series or A4 sized.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Xer0 on October 06, 2017, 10:09:44 AM
A couple other thoughts:

-6spd IS350
-NSX without the AWD/electric motors powered by just the TTV6
-718 with the 911's 3.0.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Cookie Monster on October 06, 2017, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: MrH on October 06, 2017, 07:20:28 AM
So basically an AWD Chevy SS?

.... or you know, a B7 S4/RS4...
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: FoMoJo on October 06, 2017, 11:10:28 AM
When I was looking to replace my '51 Mercury, I was really excited about a Golden Hawk that was advertised on a dealer's lot.  I went there and it was a Flight Hawk that was painted gold.  I'd never go running to any dealer after that :frown:.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: CALL_911 on October 06, 2017, 11:24:43 AM
Quote from: Xer0 on October 06, 2017, 10:09:44 AM
A couple other thoughts:

-6spd IS350
-NSX without the AWD/electric motors powered by just the TTV6
-718 with the 911's 3.0.

Oooooh these are good calls
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on October 06, 2017, 11:40:20 AM
Quote from: GoCougs on October 05, 2017, 10:08:53 PM
Poser class sedan w/NA V8, AWD and 6MT.

Get a last gen Audi RS4. It's exactly that.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on October 06, 2017, 12:09:02 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on October 05, 2017, 10:15:58 PM
That reminds me, I saw a B7 RS4 the other day for the first time in a while. Those things still look fantastic.
Those things still rip, but the current A4 2.0T is only a hair slower than the regular S4. #Progress
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Soup DeVille on October 06, 2017, 12:15:34 PM
The Cherokee uses the same basic drivetrain as the Dart.

What I want is an AWD gravel-spec turbo Dart.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 06, 2017, 01:09:01 PM
Demon Dart
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: Soup DeVille on October 06, 2017, 02:28:21 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 06, 2017, 01:09:01 PM
Demon Dart

Literal Duster.
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: 2o6 on October 06, 2017, 02:28:51 PM
Demon Journey
Title: Re: What options would have you running to the dealer?
Post by: GoCougs on October 06, 2017, 02:47:28 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on October 05, 2017, 10:15:58 PM
That reminds me, I saw a B7 RS4 the other day for the first time in a while. Those things still look fantastic.

Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on October 06, 2017, 11:40:20 AM
Get a last gen Audi RS4. It's exactly that.

Too small, absolutely terrible (reliability) motor. But it does look good.