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Title: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on February 26, 2018, 01:29:05 PM
McLaren has ditched Honda as an engine partner, because they were to unreliable, and slow. It is somewhat ironic then that on the first day of testing for the 2018 season we have:

Least laps - Mclaren Renault - 6
Most laps - Toro Rosso Honda - 44

And the speed traps.

1.   Räikkönen   288.7   0
2.   Hartley   284.9   0
3.   Stroll   283.4   0
4.   Bottas   279.7   0
5.   Ericsson   277.6   0
6.   Grosjean   276.9   0
7.   Mazepin   276.9   0
8.   Hülkenberg   274.8   0
9.   Ricciardo   272.7   0
10.   Alonso   271.3   0


(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0ExtWSZEgiJUaoU0/giphy.gif)


Yeas, they lost a wheel, but still. I think long term ditching Honda was a mistake. Honda is a great company they will get it right eventually, and Mclaren was essentially the Honda works team. Now they are a Renault customer. Always a Beta to the Renault works team.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Payman on February 26, 2018, 01:50:51 PM
I can understand the privateers like Williams and Haas having to partner with an engine supplier, but there's no excuse for McLaren not to be running their own engines by now.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: r0tor on February 26, 2018, 04:35:24 PM
Well compared to last year, Mclaren is way better off.  Last year Honda missed their engine delivery date, causing the car build to go late and miss shakedown runs that were scheduled...

Then first official testing day engine #1 died after 1 lap, day 2 saw engine #2 die in another few laps, rinse and repeat for day and engine number 3... i believe they only completed like 40 laps all week. 

All for an engine that missed every single benchmark it was given.


There is actually a good documentary on 2017 McLaren preseason testing on Amazon Prime.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: r0tor on February 26, 2018, 04:47:58 PM
Actually for the record, the fastest car and also the one with the most laps (100) was the Red Bull Renault.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on February 27, 2018, 09:58:04 PM
^ The data I posted was for the mid day, my mistake. Still after two days McLaren is at the bottom of most laps driven, while the Honda did double the laps.

Also:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXDcF0aX4AAGwPm.jpg:large)

It was not snowing that bad, but a neat little joke.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on February 28, 2018, 09:12:53 AM
Maybe winter tires are not a bad idea.

(https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Impressionen-Formel-1-Test-Barcelona-Tag-3-28-Februar-2018-fotoshowBig-41257fe9-1149356.jpg)


Mercedes built a snowman in the garage.

(https://imgr4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Impressionen-Formel-1-Test-Barcelona-Tag-3-28-Februar-2018-fotoshowBig-74bc675f-1149411.jpg)
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on March 08, 2018, 07:32:46 PM
This is priceless

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1hzb2IFWSs&feature=youtu.be

I love the reaction of those two guys when they take their tire away and drop off the one from the other side, you can see the wheels turning in their head.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on March 09, 2018, 09:10:28 AM
Pirelli explains the difference in lap times between the softer tire compounds (there is also Hard, and Super Hard).

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX24nLkX0AAJXzX.jpg)
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on March 24, 2018, 02:04:59 AM
Congrats to Hamilton for 1st Pole of the Season.


F1 has its first official theme music.

http://youtu.be/KTETwgQnbsQ

I like, just maybe not for F1.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Morris Minor on March 24, 2018, 05:52:41 AM
This is good, really good, ... all about Frank Williams:
https://www.netflix.com/title/80196135

Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Rich on March 24, 2018, 06:43:36 AM
Howabout a MotoGP thread too?  That was wayyyy more fun to watch than F1

I'm still interested to see if anyone can take down Mercedes this season....
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: r0tor on March 24, 2018, 10:52:46 AM
So what happened to all this glorious improvemts for viewing in America... I see no streaming app and the fucktards at ESPN (sorry I despise ESPN) aired qualifying at 1am with no reairing and it's not available on demand

...and I forgot to reset my DVR function to adjust for it being on another network  :banghead: ....
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on March 24, 2018, 01:14:04 PM
Quote from: r0tor on March 24, 2018, 10:52:46 AM
So what happened to all this glorious improvemts for viewing in America... I see no streaming app and the fucktards at ESPN (sorry I despise ESPN) aired qualifying at 1am with no reairing and it's not available on demand

...and I forgot to reset my DVR function to adjust for it being on another network  :banghead: ....

Apparently it is available on the ESPN App.

F1 is also working on its own streaming service, it has not launched yet, because they want to get it right.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: r0tor on March 25, 2018, 11:50:05 AM
ESPNs covergae was a complete utter dumpster fire.  Most of the prerace was f'd up and they switched to basketball, during the race their commericals overlapped the key parts of the race, the world feed commercial breaks were a static ESpN logo... and then no post race breakdown at all.  The US Haas team retirements we're not even mentioned.

WTF

...and tell sky to hire Will Buxton as his on the.grid segment use to be stellar...
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: 12,000 RPM on March 25, 2018, 07:41:23 PM
https://jalopnik.com/espns-f1-season-opener-broadcast-was-a-catastrophe-1824057087
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: SVT_Power on March 26, 2018, 12:48:09 PM
Ferrari conspiracy starting up early this year  :lol:
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: r0tor on March 28, 2018, 11:26:11 AM
I like the excuse of "a new team can't possible be that good" from Sauber.

I think a polite response is "how can an established team possibly be that bad"
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Rich on July 09, 2018, 12:07:20 PM
Hamilton's drive through the field Sunday was great to read about, and the clips of on track action were fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFWLOMoBQoA


Haas seems to be doing well this year also.  I hope they can keep it up.  I'd like to see them manufacture their cars from the ground up someday. 

I still feel bad for Alonso.  How is McLaren's F1 effort such shit.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: FoMoJo on July 09, 2018, 12:36:27 PM
Excellent competition this season.  Nice to see so many competitive teams/drivers.

As an old, old F1 fan, I can't help thinking that Hamilton is the most naturally skilled driver since my all-time favourite, Jimmy Clark. 

Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Rich on July 25, 2018, 09:03:17 AM
That shit was crazy on Sunday.  This is the first title race that I have ever paid attention to.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2018, 11:29:58 AM
I dont know how you guys watch this shit. Rich if you're ever in my hood for an hour I will talk you through a MotoGP RACE
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on August 11, 2018, 12:18:37 PM
So Force India has become Force Canada, eh?

Would look nice with white and red and some maple leafs.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: FoMoJo on October 21, 2018, 02:01:44 PM
US Formula 1, good race by Kimi.  Lewis can clinch the title in Mexico now.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on October 21, 2018, 02:38:19 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 21, 2018, 02:01:44 PM
US Formula 1, good race by Kimi.  Lewis can clinch the title in Mexico now.

That was the best race in a while. First Kimi win in 5 years. Thought Ferrari had botched their pit strategy, turns out they were on the ball.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: heelntoe on November 10, 2018, 11:21:08 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on March 24, 2018, 05:52:41 AM
This is good, really good, ... all about Frank Williams:
https://www.netflix.com/title/80196135


This was really good! After watching this, I started getting into F1 a little more. Watched through the 2007 and 2008 seasons completely and am now halfway through 2009.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on November 11, 2018, 03:18:53 PM
So what is the Carspin verdict on the Verstappen - Ocon scuffle?

http://youtu.be/IUd5a5IxTXg


Generally I usually give Verstappen fault for collisions he is involved in, but in this case, while someone who is in 16th position certainly has every right to unlap himself, he should not be fighting the race leader for the apex imo. On the other hand Verstappen could have avoided the whole situation. An excellent driver can avoid other drivers mistake. Plus he had much more to lose.


Then we had Vettel breaking the FIA scales during qualifying because he floored it out of there. Another one of his road rage incidents. On the other hand it was starting to rain, a few seconds can make the difference between qualifying at the front, or at the back when the track is wet. The FIA officials were moving at a somewhat leisurely pace.

http://youtu.be/NNVTOsx-NLE?t=176


Here is an external view of him leaving, and sending the things flying.

http://streamable.com/6pzrx
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: CaminoRacer on November 11, 2018, 03:34:32 PM
Ocon had the position, so Verstappen is at fault IMO
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: FoMoJo on November 11, 2018, 04:13:39 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 11, 2018, 03:34:32 PM
Ocon had the position, so Verstappen is at fault IMO
Agree.  What was Verstappen thinking?

On another note, congratulations to Lewis for his 5th championship...a couple of weeks late.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: heelntoe on November 11, 2018, 09:33:37 PM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/1061714137686966274?s=20

Looks like they had a clash off the track as well
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on November 12, 2018, 10:46:44 AM
Quote from: heelntoe on November 11, 2018, 09:33:37 PM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/1061714137686966274?s=20

Looks like they had a clash off the track as well


I still the fault Ocon more for the collision, but Verstappen is a fucking clown for making the conflict physical. 2 days of public work is probably not enough to calm him down. Also Red Bull team Principal Helmut Marko's reaction is unacceptable stating that Ocon should be glad that Verstappen's dad was not there. Jos Verstappen was sentenced to 5 years in jail on parole after he broke someone's skull after a karting incident. Was not the only time his hand slipped. What a lovely family.

Max is going to be a handful if he fights for the championship.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: CaminoRacer on November 12, 2018, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: Galaxy on November 12, 2018, 10:46:44 AM

I still the fault Ocon more for the collision, but Verstappen is a fucking clown for making the conflict physical. 2 days of public work is probably not enough to calm him down. Also Red Bull team Principal Helmut Marko's reaction is unacceptable stating that Ocon should be glad that Verstappen's dad was not there. Jos Verstappen was sentenced to 5 years in jail on parole after he broke someone's skull after a karting incident. Was not the only time his hand slipped. What a lovely family.

Max is going to be a handful if he fights for the championship.

Wow.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: r0tor on November 12, 2018, 02:15:46 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 11, 2018, 04:13:39 PM
Agree.  What was Verstappen thinking?

On another note, congratulations to Lewis for his 5th championship...a couple of weeks late.

Don't accuse Max of ever thinking
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on December 08, 2018, 01:57:04 AM
Kimi got drunk at the 2018 FIA Ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brKeNHqhGyw
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: 93JC on May 21, 2019, 03:25:51 PM
I couldn't find a newer Formula 1 thread, and this is only tangentially related, but I loled:

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/autos/2019/5/20/1_4429642.html
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: FoMoJo on May 21, 2019, 03:46:57 PM
Hmmm...McLaren seems to be fading into irrelevance, which is too bad.  Not an Alonso fan, so  :partyon:.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: r0tor on May 21, 2019, 06:36:57 PM
This is probably the most boring F1 season in several years... Nobody can even come close to challenging Mercedes
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: FoMoJo on May 21, 2019, 06:42:08 PM
It seems that Hamilton and Bottas are taking turns winning and placing second.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: CaminoRacer on May 26, 2019, 05:34:40 PM
I watched the first 55-60 laps of Monaco. Love that track, but I don't love the lack of passing or lead changes. The one guy who was aggressive about passing ended up out of the race before lap 20.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: r0tor on June 09, 2019, 04:27:44 PM
F1 officially needs to be disbanded after this debacle in Canada... Way to gain that north America fan base F1
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: 12,000 RPM on June 09, 2019, 04:41:05 PM
I have no sympathy for anyone still watching F1 in 2019 :lol:

Every time I hear about it someone is talking about how awful it is :hammerhead:
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: giant_mtb on June 09, 2019, 04:43:38 PM
Quote from: r0tor on June 09, 2019, 04:27:44 PM
F1 officially needs to be disbanded after this debacle in Canada... Way to gain that north America fan base F1

What happened?
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: FoMoJo on June 09, 2019, 04:48:04 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 09, 2019, 04:43:38 PM
What happened?
Vettel got a 5 second penalty that cost him the race.  Lewis inherited the win.

Much controversy over the call.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: r0tor on June 09, 2019, 05:01:51 PM
Yea, Seb lost the back in while leading, shot through the grass, saved it while nearly hitting the wall but also stopped Hamilton from passing while collecting the car up - and then the officials gave him a 5 sec penalty for a "dangerous reentry into the track" which gave Hamilton the win despite never being able to pass Vettel. 

F1 is desperate to gain a following in North America.   We'll today's race was live in the US on ABC, was an actually decent race - and then they go a fuck it up while a country known for automotive racing "pass in the grass" and "rubbing is racing" audience watches is utter confusion.


All F1 has become is a bunch of lobsided wins and belly aching to the officials to give people penalties if you can't pass them or a (rare) overtake is "dangerous"
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: FoMoJo on June 23, 2019, 09:37:35 AM
Another walk in the park?

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.french-grand-prix-2019-race-report-highlights.3mzNIi3AfrxEBA5vQpaViC.html (https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.french-grand-prix-2019-race-report-highlights.3mzNIi3AfrxEBA5vQpaViC.html)
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on June 23, 2019, 12:53:42 PM
I loved Ferrari telling their drivers "we are switching to plan F"  during the race. That is a perfect summary of the competition.

I wish Toto Wolf would stop with; it is not domination. Listening to him say that "half the team has the flu, the cars were in 1000 pieces this morning, did not even know if we would make it to race start" is just annoying.

Listening to Toto reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR1Q0MvAAZg
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on June 28, 2019, 05:34:43 PM
You can now buy a model of the 2019 Canadian GP Winner.

https://www.bbrmodelstore.com/english/car-model-wincan19_diorama--winner-canadian-g.p.-2019-.aspx
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Galaxy on June 30, 2019, 06:59:15 AM
Leclerc, and Verstappen on the front of the grid, Lando Norris 4th, the F1 of the future?
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: FoMoJo on June 30, 2019, 07:32:33 AM
Quote from: Galaxy on June 30, 2019, 06:59:15 AM
Leclerc, and Verstappen on the front of the grid, Lando Norris 4th, the F1 of the future?
A challenge for Lewis.  About time.
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Submariner on June 30, 2019, 09:46:56 AM
Quote from: Galaxy on June 28, 2019, 05:34:43 PM
You can now buy a model of the 2019 Canadian GP Winner.

https://www.bbrmodelstore.com/english/car-model-wincan19_diorama--winner-canadian-g.p.-2019-.aspx

1200 Euros for a 1:12 model?!  :confused:
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 30, 2019, 09:55:30 AM
Quote from: Submariner on June 30, 2019, 09:46:56 AM
1200 Euros for a 1:12 model?!  :confused:

For the highest possible level of detail and accuracy, even the price is 1:12 scale ... ? :wtf:
Title: Re: Formula1 2018
Post by: FoMoJo on November 03, 2019, 03:47:14 PM
Congratulations to Lewis, again...F1 US Grand Prix: Lewis Hamilton wins sixth world title (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2019/nov/03/f1-us-grand-prix-hamilton-goes-for-title-live)