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Title: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: 12,000 RPM on March 28, 2018, 06:04:48 AM
Holy crap

(http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Lincoln-Aviator-5-768x493.jpg)

(http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Lincoln-Aviator-15-768x512.jpg)

(http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Lincoln-Aviator-1-768x445.jpg)

(http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Lincoln-Aviator-16-768x443.jpg)

This thing is a winner. Range Rover must be furious. This looks better than most Range Rovers

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2018/03/lincoln-aviator-right-sized-suv-cleared-takeoff/
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: 2o6 on March 28, 2018, 09:01:30 AM
RIP Cadillac
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: giant_mtb on March 28, 2018, 09:04:05 AM
Those wheels. 😍
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: Speed_Racer on March 28, 2018, 12:28:40 PM
The Lincoln design language flows a lot better on this vs. the Navigator. This is a hot looking CUV!
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: 68_427 on March 28, 2018, 01:32:39 PM
Based on the new explorer platform which is moving to red based.
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: RomanChariot on March 28, 2018, 01:52:06 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 28, 2018, 09:04:05 AM
Those wheels. 😍

The wheels are the feature I like the least. I don't like really busy looking wheels.

Overall, they did a great job.
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: giant_mtb on March 28, 2018, 01:56:45 PM
Quote from: RomanChariot on March 28, 2018, 01:52:06 PM
The wheels are the feature I like the least. I don't like really busy looking wheels.

Overall, they did a great job.

They are a bit busy, but I like the way they feel like they're moving even though they aren't.
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: CALL_911 on March 28, 2018, 02:49:50 PM
Looks great
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on March 28, 2018, 06:27:42 PM
NICE! It reminds me of the F Pace.........
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: Xer0 on March 30, 2018, 10:39:25 AM
Personally I love it.  With the new Nav and this, Lincoln just went from "what?" to "holy shit".  Having actual names for their cars finally is just gravy.
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 30, 2018, 10:42:44 AM
Quote from: Xer0 on March 30, 2018, 10:39:25 AM
Personally I love it.  With the new Nav and this, Lincoln just went from "what?" to "holy shit".  Having actual names for their cars finally is just gravy.

+1
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on March 30, 2018, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: Xer0 on March 30, 2018, 10:39:25 AM
Personally I love it.  With the new Nav and this, Lincoln just went from "what?" to "holy shit".  Having actual names for their cars finally is just gravy.
Are you listening GM!?!?!
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: giant_mtb on March 30, 2018, 10:08:08 PM
For real. Their nomenclature was shit when they converted to MK-whatever.  They were just letters that meant nothing.
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: Morris Minor on March 31, 2018, 06:32:11 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 30, 2018, 10:08:08 PM
For real. Their nomenclature was shit when they converted to MK-whatever.  They were just letters that meant nothing.
It's a good move.
Next up, they're updating/refreshing the MKX & calling it the Nautilus.
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: Raza on March 31, 2018, 02:39:38 PM
Range Rover-esque silhouette and an F-Pace like front fascia.  I guess if you're going to rip off other designs, they might as well be good ones. 
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: 68_427 on March 31, 2018, 03:59:41 PM
They improved on either of them
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: giant_mtb on April 01, 2018, 01:54:47 AM
Quote from: Raza  on March 31, 2018, 02:39:38 PM
Range Rover-esque silhouette and an F-Pace like front fascia.  I guess if you're going to rip off other designs, they might as well be good ones. 

Not seeing it.  And anything is better than "F-Pace."
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: 12,000 RPM on April 01, 2018, 04:05:53 AM
Quote from: 68_427 on March 31, 2018, 03:59:41 PM
They improved on either of them
Not when you factor in the badge.
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: Raza on April 01, 2018, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: 68_427 on March 31, 2018, 03:59:41 PM
They improved on either of them

Not really. It's a good looking truck, it's just incredibly derivative.
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: 68_427 on April 01, 2018, 01:02:38 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 01, 2018, 04:05:53 AM
Not when you factor in the badge.

Badge hasn't been an issue with the new Navigator
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: cawimmer430 on April 02, 2018, 07:20:46 AM
To me the exterior is incredibly dull and bland. I'm not feeling it and I will probably never see this car in person where one can judge the true aesthetics of any vehicle.

But the interior is the first Lincoln cabin in decades which I find very aesthetically pleasing. It also looks well-made and has an aura of top quality to it.
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: 12,000 RPM on April 02, 2018, 08:19:17 AM
What SUVs do you feel have interesting & exciting designs?
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: cawimmer430 on April 02, 2018, 10:16:26 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 02, 2018, 08:19:17 AM
What SUVs do you feel have interesting & exciting designs?


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(https://i.wheelsage.org/pictures/m/mercedes-benz/glc_250_d_4matic_amg_line/mercedes-benz_glc_250_d_4matic_amg_line_10.jpeg)

(https://i.wheelsage.org/pictures/m/mercedes-benz/mercedes-amg_g_63_463_edition/mercedes-amg_g_63_463_edition_20.jpeg)

(https://i.wheelsage.org/pictures/t/toyota/land_cruiser_hard_top/toyota_land_cruiser_hard_top_4.jpeg)

(https://i.wheelsage.org/pictures/toyota/land_cruiser/autowp.ru_toyota_land_cruiser_60_us-spec_4.jpg)

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(https://i.wheelsage.org/pictures/l/land_rover/range_rover/range_rover_3-door_2.jpg)

(https://i.wheelsage.org/pictures/land_rover/range_rover_sport/autowp.ru_range_rover_sport_supercharged_uk-spec_4.jpg)
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: veeman on April 03, 2018, 04:27:32 AM
I think this Aviator looks fantastic inside and out.  The problem I foresee is Ford/Lincoln tends to be very optimistic about what they can charge for their premium SUVs and this has bitten them in the ass before.  The original Aviator failed because it was so expensive for a "mid size" SUV. They charged around 50 grand for it back in 2004. 

The Navigator is getting away with 80 grand price tag but I don't think the Aviator will sell well in the upper 50 to 60 thousand dollar price range.  I'm interested to see if they price it right.  I don't think they will.

Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: Morris Minor on April 03, 2018, 05:07:37 AM
It's great looking, but if you're looking for a premium SUV, you are more likely to go for a brand with breeding & pedigree (Range Rover, M-B, Audi, Jag, BMW) than you are for a Ford with twiddly bits.
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: 93JC on April 03, 2018, 09:00:59 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on April 03, 2018, 05:07:37 AM
It's great looking, but if you're looking for a premium SUV, you are more likely to go for a brand with breeding & pedigree (Range Rover, M-B, Audi, Jag, BMW) than you are for a Ford with twiddly bits.

lol
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 03, 2018, 09:34:10 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on April 03, 2018, 05:07:37 AM
It's great looking, but if you're looking for a premium SUV, you are more likely to go for a brand with breeding & pedigree (Range Rover, M-B, Audi, Jag, BMW) than you are for a Ford with twiddly bits.

Lincoln was of course the first Cadillac before they were ever Fords.
Title: Re: Lincoln Aviator
Post by: 12,000 RPM on April 04, 2018, 07:11:04 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on April 03, 2018, 05:07:37 AM
It's great looking, but if you're looking for a premium SUV, you are more likely to go for a brand with breeding & pedigree (Range Rover, M-B, Audi, Jag, BMW) than you are for a Ford with twiddly bits.
If Ford is smart with the pricing, equipment and marketing I think they could generate some interest. I could see a lot of these in the same households as equally expensive F-150s.